>macfags still keep up with this mac vs pc shit when apple

>>61072721
>capitalizes Mac as if it were an acronym

>imagine being at computers

>>61072721
>inb4 "I AM FAT FUCK"

>>61072731
It is, it stand for Massive Arrogant Cunt

>>61072721
Where did he get the McComputer?

>>61072740
>Being so fat you look at computers and see food

unfair comparison, this is all sorts of wrong, also the os is just trash, so many issues with updates and configs not being preserved, its a fucking nightmare

>>61072748
lol u tried lil nigga

-2007
When the 15" MacBook Pro had a frame with hinges attached to it instead of them sensibly being attached to a backplate, so they constantly broke like paperclips.
Apple experience and quality.

-2008
When the graphics chips were dying on all the Apple computers. Apple was forced to help by a class action lawsuit. How that worked? They put an Apple diagnostic disc into your computer to decide whether they may or may not help you, based on whether the test passes. Of course, it can't work if you don't have a fucking functional graphics chip.
Apple experience and quality.

-2009
"Unibody" 15" MacBook Pro. Except it was made out of 2 pieces stuck together with adhesive. Not only that, it was so well designed with such build quality, the fan exhausting the heat these MacTurd Pros built up, was positioned to exhaust into the adhesive directly. End result: Computers falling apart everywhere.
Apple experience and quality.

-2010
A1286 model with the 2850 board, which was failing because the sensors would keep the fans at 1000 RPM when FinalCut Pro was rendering and running a video for 20 minutes straight.
Apple experience and quality.

-2011
820-2915 board comes out. Throttling the CPU out of the box with no dust, at 70 fahrenheit room temp. A $2000 machine, throttling and functioning worse than a shitty $300 Acer at that time.
Apple experience and quality.

-~2010
iPhone 4 comes out. $600 phone that you could not hold in your hand without dropping a call. Apple is not at fault, it's your fault for not holding the phone correctly on your fucking face!!!
Apple experience and quality.

>your Apple computer is stolen
Apple service policy: Doesn't allow them to give the phone number of the owner to the FUCKING POLICE, when the computer is found, has the Find My Mac software and info, and is reported stolen!

Apple users: The wife that gets beaten daily by the husband, calls it "love".

>>61073216
Came here for this, thanks anon.

1. The man who made the comic speaks about problems which are OS specific and not hardware specific, so that's one portion of IQ points off his scale.
2. The custom built PC is a buffet. You can pick any food you want, healthy or unhealthy, in any quantity, and eat it in a comfortable environment with proper cooling and airconditioning.

The Mac is prison ration. It looks well organized and neat on the plate, but you have no other choice, and you have to eat it in a uncomfortable environment surrounded by heat and danger.

>>61072721
> pic

Is that comic edited or are mac users really that nonsensical in their arguments?

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>>61072721
Did you have a point or are you just shitposting randomly to show off your homemade crap comics?

>>61072721
I like macOS, but Dobby-boy's picture is the opposite of truth. PCs are a large marketplace of produce that you buy to cook your own meal or have someone cook it for you, while Macs are prepackaged frozen hamburgers that are all the same.

Does this guy still make shit tier comics? I dated some artist comic who praised this asshole for everything me made, and she "rubbed my face" in this comic because she used a MacBook for school and I was a CS major with a thinkpad.

>Tfw a few months later her laptop literally fell apart after one drop and none of her artwork was recoverable for school
>Tfw I broke up with her and received death threats from her friends for almost a year.

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>>61073187

hi louis

>>61073494
Artist chick* fuck autocorrect.

>>61073495
The manlet knows all your sins.
He knows all your weaknesses.
In front of the manlet, nothing escapes.

IMAGINE BEING
AT COMPUTERS

https://youtu.be/fphtNeHKwGo
This is your average mac user

>>61073495
The more apple shit breaks, the more business Louis gets. I dunno why he bitches about it constantly.

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>>61073579

chronic manlet syndrome

>>61072721
The only good reason to buy a Mac is to use MacOS.
>inb4 hackintosh
Harder to install than Linux and even more picky about hardware.

>>61073495
I'm pretty sure that's photoshopped

>>61073526
so fat you look
and see food

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>>61073739

>fucking tripfag
>being this stupid

why is it that the stupidest among us are the ones that are so quick to put their name on everything they post

>>61073769
For (You)'s

Faggot

Imagine being so butthurt about a non-issue that you keep making daily threads about it on a Taiwanese adult image sharing board

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Apple is the only consumer Unix vendor still in the business, you don't buy a mac for the hardware you buy it for the support.
>Apple's engineers equate to a dedicated sysadmin for your OS
>stellar physical support/warranty (walk in with a broken one, walk out with a new one)
>high physical availability (stores with support agents are everywhere, globally)
>even third party vendors cater to Apple products
The hardware is fine, the actual physical body which is more important than people seem to think is also nice but the support is legitimately unmatched. Remember these are made for business and they fit well for that use. I personally think the software and software support is nice as well but that's moot given that you can install anything you like on it if you disagree with OS X.

People act like the only thing you're buying is the hardware. What other options do you have as a consumer? Everything may as well be "you're on your own" for the physical shit and "it's Microsoft's problem not ours" for the software end of things. You can only come close when you start looking at enterprise laptops that cost just as much as a typical macbook for the same level of support.

>>61073512
Dumb phoneposter.

>>61072721
> standard
> can't get a pc with xenons and ecc ram

>>61073784
You don't need to put a name to get the "(You)"...

>>61074437
>xenon

>>61077059
I'm opening the door.

>>61073334
>not knowing who tom preston is
>not knowing that he is staple kek fuel for 4chan and all other online communities

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>>61072740

>>61077235
Why is hiroshimoot here?

>>61073216
Cheers

>>61077582
He never fucking uses 4chan. He'll make a single shitpost in some dumbass thread somewhere then disappear for 7 months, then rinse and repeat.

>>61073216
>imagine being at computers

>>61073187
People always forget just how much mistakes they commit on a yearly basis, you forgot to add the overheating trash can pro and the bendable iphone 6, really makes ya think.

>>61072721
Macs are luxury products. You pay for the exclusivity of the Apple OS and ecosystem, not for the hardware.

>>61072721
Windows 10 is a busted piece of shit
Linux is autistic
Apple just works

What a crime

>>61077004
You're replying to me because of the name

>>61074245
fuck i almost choked

>>61078108
This

>mac versus pc
>as if a mac was more than a consumers personal computer
it's the epitome of apple marketing

>>61072721
Because macs still "just work" out of the box right after purcahse a lot better than some cheap chink computer you buy at walmart or whatever.

>inb4 build your own
the majority of people have jobs and aren't autistic.

Anyways your cheapo plastic computers that come preinstalled with Windows have loads of issues out of the box. Usually have to download proper drivers for your wireless card, graphics drivers, etc. And Windows STILL constantly shits the bed every five minutes with BSODs, malware, and failed Windows Updates.
>Windows users literally can't stop restarting their computers

On top of that, ordinary Windows users have to purchase a subscription to an antivirus protection suite. They don't have time for "Common Sense 2017" because they don't have time to stay up-to-date with all the latest ways that hackers have found to exploit the largest operating system platform on the planet. So by using a Mac, they would have safety in relative obscurity.

The average Windows user also has a computer that suffers from "Windows rot," which is basically their computer getting slower over time due to accumulated bloat, malware, and fragmentation due to Windows' garbage file-system. So they have to keep reinstalling Windows every year or so. Most of them probably don't even know how to make backups of their files, so they lose everything.

Macs are literally the best option for the majority of people who don't understand computers and don't need or want to.

>>61079028
Found the mactoddler

Go be a stupid/useless faggot somewhere else

>>61079336
You didn't refute his points

>>61073216
Came here to post this

>>61078499
Fuck off, shill.

>>61079403
>Buy dell laptop for mother
>Drivers are preinstalled
>Add Microsoft office and Malwarebytes myself
>Hasn't gotten a virus in a year, no slowing down in performance, battery life is fine
>$600 compared to a $2300 MacBook and the Dell laptop has much better hardware
>You can literally do this for any computer
>Implying Macs don't get viruses (they do)
>Implying these viruses don't infect hundreds of thousands of machines because apple literally ignores they exist until the next OSX iteration
>Implying defragging a hard drive isn't possible on a Windows machine and fixes all fragmentation problems in the filesystem
>Implying osx file manager literally deletes shit for absolutely no reason
>Implying Apple has a tower that's not ridiculously overpriced and using archiac shit tier hardware
>Implying there arent dozens of windows manufacturers that make a better/cheaper computer for 1/20th the price of a imac.

>>61078499
I have win 10 on a 2013 amd processor it never crashes,very rarely runs slow most newish games work fine .my friend has a Mac air book 2014 it is slim etc but has issues sometimes

>>61072731
MAC is an acronym. It just doesn't apply to the "Mac" that tech-illiterate talking about.

>>61079028
That's where you're wrong kiddo
Fucking everywhere

>>61078108
>so fat you look and see food

>>61078385
>iphone 6 touch disease
>apple deny the issue, claim user error and $300+ to fix
>lawsuits
>apple issue extended service for the iphone 6 plus only, will fix for $150, still claim user error
The most insulting thing about the iPhone6 Touch Disease is that they won't admit they fucked up by not underfilling the TouchIC, they just blame the user even though prior phones don't have the issue, because smaller and underfilled, and later phones don't have the issue, because underfilled and shield over IC helps prevent bending.

They fucked up. They know they fucked up because they changed the design to mitigate it, but they won't admit it because then thousands of people wouldn't need to upgrade their phone.

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>>61072721
>massively inflated prices
kek... when all you PC poorfags can't even match the iMac Pro's perfs without going $2K over.

>>61073216
Shit my sides

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>>61081765
>t. mactoddler

You gotta equip that iMac with a $10,000 liquid nitrogen cooling system to get equal performance to a real computer.

>>61079028
>>inb4 build your own
>the majority of people have jobs and aren't autistic.
Putting together a computer isn't so difficult that you can't do it if you have a full time job. Most people just don't realize how easy it is and don't want to risk it.

>And Windows STILL constantly shits the bed every five minutes with BSODs, malware, and failed Windows Updates.
Absolutely false.

>Windows users literally can't stop restarting their computers
Absolutely false.

While I agree that Macs are definitely a good choice for people who don't understand computers and don't want to do anything other than browse the Internet and check emails you paint Windows as far worse than it really is.

>>61081765
>3 Year On-site support
That's worth it for businesses. No company wants to make bookings at the local Apple Store for service and then have the computer shipped off to Texas for a month for repairs.

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>>61079028
>macshit
>work

Good joke.

>>61073579
Apple customers suck to deal with, apple products suck to deal with, we all know how important they are to the repair industry but we cant do anything about it since they wouldnt be any smarter if they bought other brands.

So the only way to deal with it is to nag about how much apple products suck and how bad their customers are.

>>61072731
You da real MVP anon

>the copypasta hasn't been posted yet

I'm disappointed in you /g/.

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>>61082093
>2006-2015
>trackpad impossible to click near upper edge
>extremely loose near bottom edge
>overall flimsy diving board piece of shit
>even applel admitted it's shit and went back to solid non-click touchpads
>still has no real buttons
>relies on pressure sensitive gimmick bullshit
>if you press too lightly or too hard it does something completely different than what you intended
>shit tier 1mm travel chiclet kb
>OSX is a steaming pile of shit with horrendous battery management
>applel's solution is to cram in a massive heavy 95WHr battery to make up for it
>even XXXTREME GAMER cancer like razer blade with 4X the CPU/GPU power and 70WHr battery matches it in battery life in same tasks
>gets BTFO by 55WHr Yoga 2 in battery life in same tasks
>the battery takes up the space where a cooling system would've been in a laptop not designed by the world's thinnest and lightest gay hipsters
>overheats constantly from abysmal crippled cooling system
>throttles to 800mhz due to chronic overheating problems
>retina meme for "pros" have have <70% aRGB
>gloss mirror coating impossible to use with overhead lighting
>blurry as shit retina meme scaling
>shitbook air even worse with glossy 1366x768 TN eye cancer
>systemic battery explosion problems for over a decade

>2016+
https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/03/2016-macbook-pro-thunderbolt-compatibility-issues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYVjIjBMx6o
>can't use any existing TB3 devices
>can't use USB and wifi at the same time
>ultra shit tier zero travel kb
>keyboard louder than WWII cricket
>memetouch emojibar
>no USB-A
>no escape
>soldered ram
>soldered SSD
>tamper tape on battery screws
>applel falls for their own thin meme and uses 54WH battery
>2 hour battery life

http://www.howtogeek.com/198043/how-to-merge-folders-on-mac-os-x-without-losing-all-your-files-seriously
>it's 2017 and moving folders around in finder will STILL cause massive data loss

>macshit is good
Can we finally put an end to this meme?

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>>61073587
>his one and only response is calling out someones height

>>61081814
lmao paying nvidia gpu premium for a amd sapphire gpu performance

truly assfucked those mac fags

That feeling when the Microshit Malware 10 Pro machine that i was remotely controlling from another country decided to not restart because of some applications that couldn't close properly.

Now it just consumes electricity (about 50 euro per month) while i'm unable to shut it down or do any work on it.

Another reason for why i'm enthusiastically waiting for my MacBook Pro. I can't wait to ditch this fucking garbage of an OS

>>61072721
I have a MacBook that I love, but I'm not going to tell anyone else what to get, why the fuck would I care?

>>61082121
Tfw your 7950 you bought 5 years ago is a better version of the card found in a 10,000 imac

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>>61073551
>Skyrim a game that could run on my 2006 Compaq
>Runs at 10 fps on a 2009 MAC

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>>61082130
>t. mactoddler

>>61073621
Half of the things one would get a Mac for, don't even work on a Hackintosh. It's a complete waste of time

>>61082205
>Mac
It's a complete waste of time.

>>61082201

Not sure what's the purpose of this video, but i find the MacOS to be better than Microshit at dealing with this, since my Windoze RAT 10 machine is now stuck with the blue screen (after closing the remote management app and the network card), trying to restart since forever.

Thank you for making me even more optimistic about the Mac that i will be soon receiving

>>61082376
>this is what mactoddlers actually believe

lmao

>>61073187
>When the 15" MacBook Pro had a frame with hinges attached to it instead of them sensibly being attached to a backplate, so they constantly broke like paperclips.
my work still has like 200 of these shitters laying around in storage, while that certainly happened a bigger complaint I found was that the fucking latches on them stop working. You literally can't close it properly

Also the fact that like we had to replace ~90% of their batteries when they were actually in use due to lipo inflation

>>61082201
Fucking lel. How the fuck did they fuck up enough to allow an application to just fucking STOP you from logging out? At least with Windows it asks you to cancel and then terminates everything if you don't respond.

>>61081853
seriously, fuck apple's "support"
I work at a college and we have a few maclabs, they're the worst fucking things to repair because they always break and always in the weirdest ways. Shit like NICs dying or backlights burning out really rusttles my jimmies. We have ~30% call in rate over the lifetime of the devices and every time I have to drive to the next city over and deal with the faggots at the apple store it's a nightmare. Educational mac care and they still treat you like shit, they act like they're doing us the biggest favor in the world by fixing faulty devices. It's seriously annoying when one lab we had with macs all from the same batch had roughly half of them all lose the backlight on the half with the cpu. Even worse they only let you bring a few in at a time, like 3 or some shit. Nothing like wasting multiple days just to have to get their mistakes repaired. Not only that but no one on the phones, even their "educational mac care specialists" seemed to know what it really entailed and were of no assistance past treating us like consumers.

Dell on the other hand, next day service for parts and technicians with minimal hassle.

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iMac and X220 masterrace

why did computers become such shit after 2011?

>>61082441

No, you dumb goat fucker! Didn't you read my comments ?

Windows 10 closed my remote management app and my network connection, and now it's running for months, consuming electricity, and with me not being able to access it, because it's stuck in restart mode with probably some applications that couldn't close properly.

At least that Mac keeps the network active, allowing you to close your apps and restart properly if there's an issue.

>>61082532
>Didn't you read my comments ?
No, I was posting about the webm in the post I quoted you dumb fuck.
>Windows 10 closed my remote management app and my network connection, and now it's running for months
Go and fucking unplug it, fuck.

>>61082581

But i can't, because i'm in another fucking country, dummy!

> brb buying a plane ticket lol

>>61082532
Tell someone to go restart it.

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>>61073187
>have 4x $3000 dual CPU MacPros at small studio
>one day come into work
>halfway through work day
>doing a batch of photos
>screen dies suddenly
>heal an extremely loud bang
>this was with a recent shooting still fresh in people's minds
>everyone else panics and ducks under tables
>they realize soon it wasn't a gunshot
>i'm staring at my Mac Pro tower which has now begun to emit smoke from the edges of the case
>pop it open
>chemical smoke fills the entire room
>everyone evacuates while i open all the windows to get the smell out
>call up applel
>apparently they want to check it out themselves and will void our warranty if we take it to anywhere other than an authorized applel repair place or apple store
>closest applel store is 80 miles away
>drive 2 hours to closest one
>oh sorry we're kinda late today, we have to push your appointment into tomorrow
>FUCK THIS SHIT
>forced to crash at a hotel for the night
>get to the Gay Bar first thing in the morning (the "Genius" there helping me was the literal textbook definition of a homosexual SJW freakshow)
>sorry this isn't covered by the warranty, this will cost $1500 to replace the board because we dont do repairs
>this fucking mac is only worth maybe $1500 now
>call boss
>tells me to just trash it

It just burns. ™

>>61082595
>be in another country for a fucking month
Fucking call someone back there and have them do it you dumb faggot. Are you a fucking poo in America on a H1B or something?

>>61082635

I don't have anyone (and on top of it nobody has the keys to my apartment), and this is not the point that i was trying to make.

The point that i was trying to make is that Microcock Keylogger 10 Pro is an unreliable piece of shit OS. That's it!

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>>61082665
>mad about using an unreliable piece of shit OS
>wants to replace it with another unreliable piece of shit OS with a fruit logo

It was built for games, malware and for customizing rgb leds and not for business and security.

>>61082665
Well it sounds like the application you were using to remote access it got closed by the shutdown sequence before other applications, which means it wasn't running as a service.

Basically you misconfigured your shit and are now blaming it on Microsoft.

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>>61082711
how did you get this video of me?

>>61082721

> the fuck you talking about ?

I'm blaming MicroShit for not being able to properly restart its worse-than-trash OS.

Microshit should know that when i'm pressing on the restart button, i want my pc to be restarted. It's so fucking easy, yet so hard to make a good implementation... after so many decades.

4 days until my MacBook arrives and it already feels like an eternity

>>61082651
>heal an extremely loud bang
I once heard a loud sound in my room but could never find what caused it.

>>61082808
Pressing the restart button and selecting restart in Start Menu are two different things.

One closes all the applications before starting a reboot and the other hard reboots.

You misconfigured your shit and it bit you in the ass. Ring your landlord and have him restart your computer.

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>>61079028
>the best option for the majority of people who don't understand

Does Apple release updates on their desktops/laptops that purposely cripple them like they do with their phones?

>>61083823
Apple has a pretty vicious hardware/software upgrade treadmill.

I resisted updating 10.4 for years; IMO that was the high water mark for OS X, everything has basically been downhill from there. If I could still run 10.4 plus bugfixes and security updates, with modern software, I would.

But that's not possible. They push out new versions of the OS, along with new versions of development tools, which produce software that's not backwards-compatible past a certain point, such that eventually you can't run new software without installing major (0.1) updates. Apple's own products are the worst for this, but eventually you lose 3rd party apps as well.

Even if you resist the demands of new software, you'll eventually get forced to upgrade via hardware. Each generation of Apple hardware has a minimum OS version, keeping you from going back too far. For instance, Mac Pro "quad core" and 8-core systems won't run OS 10.4; Nehalem-based machines won't run 10.6. And Apple has purposely killed off its compatibility layers, dropping first the Classic environment and more recently Rosetta, in order to introduce barriers to running old software.

It's pretty frustrating as a user.

>>61082651
Honestly, this is kinda your fault.
You blew the board so you drove two hours and crashed at a hotel just to get the "experts" to tell you that you blew the board and it can't be fixed? They're not wizards, they can't unburn a hunk of silicon.

>>61072721
>this mac vs pc shit when apple has been selling standard pc hardware
OP might be retarded, it's always been about the OS

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>>61083944
>the OS

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>>61072721
>defensive insecure wintards keep making thread after thread about macshit while the rest of us laugh at them

>>61083858
kind of surprised more people haven't attempted to reverse engineer 10.4 and create their own security patches, the community around that OS and OS 9 are both pretty prolific despite what shitposters would lead you to believe

>>61084036
look I know it is hard for winfags to get, because they seem to not notice how bad windows is. It's normally because they are gaymers and they love windows for gaymen.
but the reality is, windows is shit tier. Only linux fags can shit on mac users, and not by much. windows is like duplo, but try telling that to a gaymer.

I still use my 4S as my daily driver. The SE I bought on eBay turned out to be Lost or Stolen so I got a refund. Tried to get an SE through Virgin as it would be an extra $15 per month for 2 years but I had just switched over to them for the other phone so I don't qualify yet.

An SE would suit my needs and I have a Moondog Labs anamorphic lens that fits a 5 & SE. I might as well just wait for the new SE in September?

Anyways I dig the phone and tablets because of the apps but have always and always will build my own desktops with overkill solid power supplies and CPU coolers.

>>61073187
DELET THIS GOY!

BUY APPLE THEY HAVE THE BEST BUILD QUALITY!

>>61084113
>someone comments how macshit is garbage
>mactoddler immediately kneejerks lashes out at windows

Want to know how I know you're an insecure mactoddler?

>>61073187
>820-2915 board comes out. Throttling the CPU out of the box with no dust, at 70 fahrenheit room temp. A $2000 machine, throttling and functioning worse than a shitty $300 Acer at that time.

I had one of these. Eventually broke because of overheating issues. Was past two years warranty so Apple would not do shit to fix my 2500 euro machine. Abandoned Apple products right there, never looked back.

>>61081735

Well, I mean... Apple didn’t bend the phone, the user did. Maybe that was in part due to fragile construction, but, really, how far can you take that line of reasoning before you’re suing Apple because the body is made of glass and it shattered when you dropped it?

It’s an issue that you can kind of approach from both directions, and that’s why I’m personally okay-ish with the $150 REP. It’s meeting in the middle.

If the decision had been mine, I would’ve gone full Note 7 on the iPhone 6 as quietly as possible. Get them the fuck off of store shelves, make sure nobody gets them that doesn’t already have them, fix them, and *then* release them. I find it regrettable that Apple didn’t handle it that way.

>>61084871
I see what you mean but cracked glass is obvious exterior damage that doesn't occur from slight flexing or bending. It needs to have an impact, and a fairly major one, to cause it to shatter.

Touch Disease can occur with no visible exterior damage to the phone which means Apple are just assuming you've done something to cause it.

Then there's the fact that they only covered the Plus version with the extended service, so all the non-Plus owners still got shafted.

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>>61072772
From a licensed dealer of McDonald's™ and other brand related products.

>>61073878
It'd be that way if Apple didn't market to the lowest common denominator of consumers.

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>>61082532
Windows 7 with automatic updates disable doesn't have this issue. Why the fuck did you install windows 10?

>>61085293
What can you expect when there's literally 0 competition, it's not an excuse but I understand why it's like that. I wish the state of the consumer market was better, nobody tries, even starting a business in this field is discouraged.

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>>61073878

>>61086164
Not an argument.

>>61083890
>You blew the board so you drove two hours and crashed at a hotel just to get the "experts" to tell you that you blew the board and it can't be fixed?
How did he blew the board? He literally did nothing but use the machine like he was supposed to do it
4x dual CPU's were PowerMac's, liquid cooled G5's that were power hungry as fuck, with an AIO that leaked always and shorted everything since the liquid was conductive
Just more Apple QUALITY and Experience

>>61087084
The burn marks are coming from a firewire or USB port on the back of a G5...

The burn marks are literally on the external going in, instead of the opposite, meaning the spark had to come from whatever peripheral was plugged in... it probably didn't have a proper ground, nor did it get rated for the proper voltage.

He plugged in a harddrive, probably with a shitty chinese cable, and then blew the board... that was his fault.

>>61087704
More importantly, the fact that he just trashed it, instead of removing the video card and RAM, which was all standard and user removable, shows he's a fucking tech illiterate that doesn't know anything about computers.

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Whatever happened to emeek?

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>>61087704
>>61087733
>mactoddler subhuman
>calling anyone else technology illiterate

>>61087084
Using a kill-a-watt to measure my single core G5, it never went over 150watts. Checking the thermals, it never got as hot as the SandyBridge in my t420. I'm sure the quad G5 was more power hungry, but I'll bet an i7 with 1080 ti is in the same ballpark.

tldr: Stop regurgitating decade old talking points that are meaningless today.

>>61073878
But Windows 10 has a full Linux stack available now and it runs natively.

>>61081853
It's like Macfags would ever understood that / your-point.

>>61082201
hahahahahahah

>>61088125
>But Windows 10 has a full Linux stack available now and it runs natively.
No, it doesn't. It has a translation layer that convert syscalls into WinAPI calls.

Basically, it's a reverse WINE.

>>61088125
>full Linux stack
>full
Not yet, WSL is just interix again.

>>61088160
Alternatively it's Microsoft's version of the Linuxulator or LX (SUN).

>>61088188
>WSL is just interix again.
It is much better than Cygwin ever was. Or using Virtualbox/Vmware/Hyper-V.

I have the full dev stack on my PC running natively, in a safe environment. Comfy as FUCK.

>>61088160
> Basically, it's a reverse WINE.
If Wine would work. If Wine would ever be complete. If Wine would be usable at all, like ever.
But Wine was always a half-written piece of fucking shit. It was always "may run this, but may break a week later" kind of crap.
I mean sure when it was Ubuntu 6.04, everyone tried to use it because you know, the day of desktop Linux was on the corner.

It just never came.
And Wine never matured.

>>61088198
Literally anything was better than Cygwin, why people ever used that over msys2 is beyond me. I think I only ever needed 2 programs that relied on cygwin specifically and those could have been ported to mingw.
Not knocking WSL, I just dislike cygwin.

>>61088198
You seem to be confused as to what "full Linux stack" actually means.

Also, if you think Cygwin and Interix are the same thing, you're a moron.

>>61088198
Umm. Wine emulates windows, which is a continually developed os.
Exactly how is wine supposed to emulate something perfectly that's still being developed?

>>61088231
No. I said dev stack.

> Also, if you think Cygwin and Interix are the same thing, you're a moron.
Nigga learn how to reply, for fuck's sake.

>>61088217
Cygwin was always cancer indeed.

>>61088234
Look I am not saying it should be feature complete up to DX12 and the latest Windows 10 stuff (even though not much changed since Vista).

But.
It should be able to run old shit, emulate/run old DirectX versions and whatnot.
These stuff were "almost done" like 10 years ago (fuck it's been that long?). What's the situation now? Some work worse, some may run better.

>>61088245
>Nigga learn how to reply, for fuck's sake.
You're basically just replying with something completely irrelevant. Even your "point" about Wine didn't actually respond to anything the other anon said.

Also
>caring about DirectX
Fucking gamer babies. Fuck off back to /v/

>>61088245
>Some work worse, some may run better.
tl;dr: There should be milestones, progression.
But it seems like they blindly patch everything with dirty workarounds to get program X running. Of course this breaks everything else, but no one really cares anyhow.

It's somehow now accepted that it's just shit and people just try to avoid it like it's a plague.
Years ago even Cedega was a thing.

>>61088263
>Fucking gamer babies.
> thinks DirectX is only used for games
LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH

>>61088274
>I pretend to be a design engineer on an anonymous Lebanese mountainbiking forum

>>61088274
If you need Dx for work stuff, then use fucking Windows and get your employer to buy you a fucking license...

>>61088285
> I pretend to be a c00l 1337 leenux dude on an anonymous image board

What the fuck is a Design Engineer has to do with DirectX? Next time you will bring up activated almonds too?

>>61088296
B-b-but muh linux desktop!
Just saying that old APIs should have been implemented fully long time ago. Like you can't run an old Photoshop, old Office or whatever (some works on some versions of Wine, I know). It would be a great tool for government bodies for example. They could use an up-to-date Linux distro with Wine.

>>61088308
>What the fuck is a Design Engineer has to do with DirectX?
The point is, you're clearly pretending. We all know the reason you bring up Dx12 is because of games. Just admit it, instead of pretending to be something you aren't.


>Just saying that old APIs should have been implemented fully long time ago.
If it was important enough, then someone would have thrown either money or development time (or both) on the problem. Seeing how no one has done that, it's fair to assume it isn't worth the trouble.

People who need Dx for work stuff just use Windows. People who care about Dx on Linux are hobbyists. Sure, it would be nice to have, but it's far more important to just have some basic Windows programs working tbqh.

>>61082813
While trying to sleep/tired? It's a form of hallucination, I forget the name of it.

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>>61082075
>da real MVP

>>61088335
>you bring up Dx12 is because of games.
I never brought up DX12. DirectX 12 itself is useless, even when it comes to games.

DirectX is a lot more than just a 3D API, and judging from your replies it's been around longer than you yourself.

>Linux are *for* hobbyists
Fixed it for you. Because people who want to work with 3D, who work on architecture, design, simulations, they are all just fucking scrubs who should stick to Windows, right?

So then again, who the fuck should use Linux then? """Hobbyists"""? Basically, weeb shitposters who post screenfetch images in threads?
Well, alright.

The older folks believed that Linux could become something major, gain a foothold on the desktop market.
Ubuntu was a good step in this direction. But the big change never happened.
Wine is part of the reason why.

>>61073187
As an android to ios user, this fucking nag screen to update my OS is horrible. Its not even sensible updates or features, its just them trying to stop jailbreaking. Even Windows 10 doesn't bug me this much

Im going back as soon as this phone dies

>>61073187
Hey Louis :)

>>61088599
>>Linux are *for* hobbyists
I never said this. I use Linux for work, so stop arguing a fucking strawman.

But trying to run Windows programs on Linux is a task for hobbyists.

>Because people who want to work with 3D, who work on architecture, design, simulations, they are all just fucking scrubs who should stick to Windows, right?
They should stick to Windows if the software they require only work for Windows, yes. Wine is not a "Linux project", it's a bunch of unpaid developers that hack together something that works as best they can. Other FOSS projects have multibillion dollar companies that back them.

>So then again, who the fuck should use Linux then?
Whoever wants to do it, but certainly not people who will try to use it like it Windows and then come to /g/ and scream and have autistic tantrums about how shit Linux is because it isn't Windows.

>>61073878
Good thing you paid all that extra money to have good support, you're gunna need it with apple products

>>61087874
yeah sure and our fucking dual core g5s never went below 140W even at idle
we never bothered with single core ones but I highly doubt that consumption

>>61088757
IBM never bothered optimizing the G5 for power because there weren't enough of them sold. Apple only bought a few million a year.
That's also why Steve Jobs' promised 3GHz G5 never materialised.

>>61072721
> standard pc hardware
> last time I checked pcs didn't have xenons or ecc ram

>>61089362
>mactoddler thinks any mac besides macpros come with ecc

>mac """"""""""pro"""""""" doesnt even have ecc on gpu ram

>>61072721
someone post that (legit) one where he says he prefer mcdonald's.

>>61089394
>>mac """"""""""pro"""""""" doesnt even have ecc on gpu ram
Really? That's terrible if you want to do compute.

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>>61088364
Nah, I asked and I wasn't the only one that heard it. I assume it was battery or something.

>>61089446
Why is he making bad food choices? I thought he chose a Ma.. ..Oh.

>>61078859
>fuck i almost choked
Stop trying to eat computers then.

Its nothing like food.
Its like taking the train vs driving a car.

When you drive a car, if you're a bad driver, you will crash. It is not the fault of the car, it is the fault of the person operating the car.
A good driver will thrive with a car, and have complete personal freedom. This is the PC.

Taking the the train is safe. You dont have to think all that much while doing it meaning its not very likely to crash. You have little to no freedom when taking the train. This is the Mac.

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>>61073187
Hello lowass! I watch some of your vids (listen actually).

I'm not a murderer.

>>61081880
wait a minute
that face...

:^)