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What would compel a person to buy a $2000 laptop if they're

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What would compel a person to buy a $2000 laptop if they're only going to use it to browse the Internet and make Powerpoint presentations?
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memes
literally
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>>61011551
marketing
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>>61011551
Because they're rich unlike your faggot NEET self
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you almost need it to make today's shitty websites with 100MB of autoloading autoplaying videos and loads of javascripts work at a usable speed, and it's the sort of website that normal people tend to spend most time browsing
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>>61011571
But I'm a college student that doesn't have rich parents.
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>>61011551
not being a poorfag and thus being ok with spending an extra grand
on design, software and local support
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>>61011580
but you can get $1000 laptops that have almost identical hardware to macbooks. A little bit more and you can get one with an actually functional GPU
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just werks
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Why spend all that money on a MBP when you could put that money towards a Grom?
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>>61011551
They don't know any better and like the sreen (which is nice) and trackpad (also nice)

and have probably gotten viruses/malware before on windows and think OS X is immune......

but for a professional who uses his/her laptop every single day for work and can get 5+ years out of it, $2000 is not much for a work tool

I bought my last 15' macbook in 2008 and didn't use it for much more than shitposting, sold it in 2015 for $700 and bought at 13inch rmbp

no regrets
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They probably think expensive computers last longer

When will they realize that expensive just means today's latest thing that will be entry level in a couple years?
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>>61011566
>>61011613
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>>61011623
>but you can get $1000 laptops that have almost identical hardware to macbooks

not really

spec me one out that has an m.2 drive and 2k+ monitor for $1000bucks anon
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Stop caring about what other people do, how they love their life and how they spend their money, if they aren't hurting anybody, just ignore them, you'll be alot happier if you do.
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>>61011623
Find a laptop with same specs, all metal chassis, rugged build quality, custom PCB and good battery life for 1000
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>>61011655
>They probably think expensive computers last longer
mac laptops have undeniably the best resale value of any laptop

if you buy a high end one for $2k and keep it 3 years you will be able to sell it for $1000+, thus costing you only $333 per year for something you use for hours a day
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>>61011676
>rugged build quality
>mac

not really

dented my last one in 2 places despite being gentle as hell with it, the only reason my current one is not dented is it lives on my desk
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>>61011639

thank you based Grom
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Because they don't know any better. Just let them waste their money how they want
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i hear not getting viruses as a common reason
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>>61011740
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>>61011551
What would compel a person to buy a $200000 car if they're only going to go the legal speed limit 90% of the time?

How dumb or young are you? Is /g/ filled with children?
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13 macbook pros start at $1300 and that's the more popular model

the air is very popular and is literally meant as a super lightweight facebook machine and is $999

not all macs are $2000
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>>61011551
better question is what would compel a person to make threads about how people spend their money if it not gonna change anything at all?
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the 15 inch pro laptop is pretty badass to be honest

modular desktop when
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>>61011639
>>61011737
Holy fuck, it's so small it almost looks like a toy.
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>>61011737
>>61011639

tfw 6'5 and probably could not ride that thing

I look too big on my CBR1000
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>>61011758
While some of these points are right (perhaps all of them, it doesn't matter), the logic itself is flawed.
>Don't like killing? Just don't kill and don't mind me killing, it's my killing after all
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>>61012143
>While some of these points are right (perhaps all of them, it doesn't matter), the logic itself is flawed.
true
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>>61012143
Are you full retard, or something beyond?

Gay marriage does not effect people outside the gay marriage. Raw milk does not effect people who do not drink raw milk. Murder effects other people by fucking killing them you retarded mong.
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>>61012137

how much do you weigh? id say anyone over 200 shouldnt ride a 125cc
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>>61012210
>Gay marriage does not effect people outside the gay marriage. Raw milk does not effect people who do not drink raw milk. Murder effects other people by fucking killing them you retarded mong.

Wal mart ruined every small town in america

Porn is honestly pretty degrading to women

GMO foods could cause cancer and kill millions of people
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>>61012227
>how much do you weigh? id say anyone over 200 shouldnt ride a 125cc
240lbs

being under 200 at my height with my frame would be very very skinny

/fit/ roid bro to be honest though
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>>61012231
>GMO foods could cause cancer and kill millions of people
American education.
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>>61012250

oh ok

yeah no way you should be a Gromlet then
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>>61011639

hello what is this?
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>>61012269
yeah i know

just saying i probably could not even ride it for lulz if i wanted

the CBR600 is actually too small for me
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>>61012210
>Gay marriage does not effect people outside the gay marriage. Raw milk does not effect people who do not drink raw milk. Murder effects other people by fucking killing them you retarded mong.
Yep, and that's (kinda) valid reasoning. As I said, the points might be valid, but the logic "If you don't like it just don't do it" is invalid. Also, gay marriage actually affects other people, because they are a part of society. Children could be strongly influenced by just being exposed to the concept of gay marriage.
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>>61011662
Where is this from? I want to read the whole article/book.
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>>61011662
but lets say you have a CRT but could buy a new screen with much better resolution for cheap, you are getting a better product, how does he not get that

you literally can't get functional use out of a 20 year old computer like you can a 20 year old painting
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POWERPOINT!
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>>61011551
money relative to needs.
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>be me
>remember 1990s
>every laptop was $2500 and not as capable as a desktop and had to be plugged in to get on the internet

if you are using it for work $2k is cheap
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>>61012231
>Walmart ruining every small town
>Paying $10 an hour to grandpa with benefits for greeting people at the door while offering lower prices than shit tier mom and pop shops

>Porn being degrading to women
>Women becoming famous and fetishized by young males while the men who star in porn are literally just torsos with 10" cocks 90% of the time. Women get paid hundreds of thousands and sometimes millions while men make $50-100 a scene.

>GMOs causing cancer and being poisonous
>Literally pseudoscience and false propoganda meanwhile GMO crops increase yields, are resistant to disease, and actively feed the poor and help rural communities prosper.
>Mfw you're more likely to be poisoned by organic crops through pesticides and receive less nutritional value in a meal otherwise.

Look just keep your mouth if you're this fucking retarded.
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>>61012704
>because walmart hires an old person as a store greeter it's OK they ruined every small town in the country

LOL
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>>61012548
>Be 2000+17
>Do everything that a Mac can do for less than $400
You're overspending on a MacBook, just a tad.
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>>61012739
I shop at fucking Walmart. Food is cheap, beer is cheap, and I walk 3 blocks. Fuck yourself.
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>>61012739
>Implying Walmart doesn't hire people of all ages and I wasn't just using an example of people who never get hired in the retail workspace otherwise
>Implying Walmart doesn't offer benefits to all full time employees and will also pay for college if you work full time.

LOL fuck off dipshit.
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>>61012772
>>Do everything that a Mac can do for less than $400
There are no laptops worth having for under 400 dollars

certainly none with m.2 drives and 2k+ displays
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>>61012772
>>Do everything that a Mac can do for less than $400

Buy $400 computer, in 3 years it's worth $0

Buy $1300 macbook pro, sell it in 3 years for $1000

which was the more expensive computer?

really makes you think
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>>61011551
Normies have never heard of business laptops.

When all they know is $400 Windows shittops they are more than willing to spend $2k to get something not utter bottom of the barrel.
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>>61011551
Spending money on luxury items is a Consumer Capitalist status symbol.

>>61011571
>Case in point.
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>>61012852
>implying my xiaomi air will be worth 0
> will probably be able to sell it for same 400
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>>61011551
because it's nice and I really like the trackpad.
>mine was only 1700 bucks tho
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Will someone be willing to spend money on a thinkpad x1 Carbon 1st gen from 2012 in 4 years?
Right now it costs 400$. No idea how much it costed when it was new, maybe over 1500 with max specs.
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Any particular reason, as a student, to buy the 15" MBP over the 13" one? Consider that both have the same storage capacity and not planing on using it for vidya
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>>61013229
just the screen size

I decided on the 13 and buying a nice monitor for home use, best of both worlds

the 15 is more powerful but for shitposting and general faggotry you will never notice it
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>>61011909
You can get a 2010 white MacBook for literally $250 on eBay and pop a $40 SSD into it and get more than enough performance for web browsing and Office. Spending even $1000 for those functions is pants-on-head retarded. I mean shit, even for most pro A/V stuff you don't need to spend over $1600 or so.
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>>61013319
Pretty much anything with a Core 2 Duo would be fine for that. I think the chassis would be worn the fuck out tho.
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I liked it enough to pay the difference. I've owned laptops from HP, Dell, and Lenovo. Memebook is the best laptop I've had.

I only paid $1300 for it two years ago, seems good to go for another three years at least. Still looks and feel like new.
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>>61013342
You'd be surprised, a lot of older folk seem to have bought those models and they barely use them outside the house, they look practically untouched. I helped my mom buy one about a year and a half ago and I'm sure they're only cheaper now
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Speaking of which, if you're really concerned about your investment, use an external monitor and M/KB whenever possible.
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>>61011639

Cause a grom is a fucking joke. I have a $1000 GSX-750F that's ten times as fast, nicer to ride and I think even better looking despite its age.

I do not see any reason why I'd trade my one grand miracle for one of these stupid manchild things.
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>>61013269
how are you liking it? i'm also switching from windows to macOs so i don't really know what to expect
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>>61013374
damn right
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>>61013401
Expect to dual boot then
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>>61013319
>no warranty
>half the ram
>battery life will be shot with a 7yo battery
>screen resolution is not as good, probably wont run my 2k external monitor well

I play kerbal space at full settings on my 2k 27inch monitor with my laptop

forgot to mention that, I buy a new macbook and sell my old one about every 5 years, I always get back more than you would think, it costs me about $250 per year to always have a brand new macbook

I can afford $20 per month on the thing I use for work and play 5+ hours a day every day

honestly I am paying for the nice screen and I get that, also I run VMs at work and the m.2 ssd is nice for that
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>>61013421
parallels covers any such issues in my experience and is stupidly easy to pirate
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>>61013401
>how are you liking it? i'm also switching from windows to macOs so i don't really know what to expect

I love it, I dual boot win10 on mine, thinking of getting parallels. I also have win10 on a VM but it's kind of shitty.

you will get used to OS X fast

they released a version of kerbal space that runs native on mac and that is all I was really dual booting for so I might erase that partition
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>>61013433
>no warranty
you're paying a tenth the price
>half the ram
you're paying a tenth the price
>battery life will be shot with a 7yo battery
replaceable, and you're paying a tenth the price
>screen resolution is not as good, probably wont run my 2k external monitor well
the 320m handles 1080p just fine, also you're paying a tenth the price
>I play kerbal space at full settings on my 2k 27inch monitor with my laptop
okay
>I can afford $20 per month on the thing I use for work and play 5+ hours a day every day
good for you
>I run VMs at work and the m.2 ssd is nice for that
then a $250 laptop probably isn't for you
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>>61013470
>>no warranty
>you're paying a tenth the price
>>half the ram
>you're paying a tenth the price

$300 is not one tenth of $1300 anon

a new battery is another hundred bucks and if you put in more ram you wind up having $400-500 bucks in a 7 year old computer that will probably not last you 5 years

no thanks

If you buy the 1300 mac pro and keep it 5 years and sell it you vs buying that 2010 for $250 then upgrading everything and fixing the battery and selling it in 5 years i bet you would come out ahead overall on the 1300dollar machine because of being able to sell it in 5 years for $500-700
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>>61013554
>$300 is not one tenth of $1300 anon
oh i forgot which one you were
replace with "one fifth" and my post still stands. if you need that much power a $300 computer (including new SSD) isn't for you. not complicated.
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>>61013578
>replace with "one fifth" and my post still stands. if you need that much power a $300 computer (including new SSD) isn't for you. not complicated.
Basically I need (perhaps only for entertainment and occasionally) more power than a 7 year old core duo is going to put out

I would be hesitant to buy any 7 year old laptop to be honest, at some point you won't get OS X updates and probably sooner than later, also at that time the laptop basically becomes worth 50bucks
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>>61011551
>make Powerpoint presentations?
You must think very highly of them to suggest that ever happening
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>>61011838
/thread
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>>61012804
>full time
Lul, do you know how much effort they put into making sure as few people as possible are actually pulling enough hours to be considered full time?
Walmart is a shit-awful company, but without it I'd have to walk another 3 blocks to get my booze. And I simply can't stand for that.
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>>61011551

they might be tech illiterate and they don't want to fuck around with making multiple adjustments to parameters, and they can't problem solve algorithmically and don't want to learn how

to be honest; my supervisor, who is kind of an imbecile, is like this

i've been skimming her personal emails for years off her yahoo mail account
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>>61011758
>Everybody exists in a vacuum and nothing about the outside world effects you meme
lolbertarins should kill themselves.
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not everyone is poor?
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>>61014727
You can't buy happiness
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>>61014617
>Calling others imbeciles
They are your boss though ha. Wagecuck
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>>61011551
>if they're only going to use it to browse the Internet and make Powerpoint presentations?
quit projecting NEET!
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>>61014864
do poor people actually believe this?
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>>61012460
>he thinks CRTs are worse than LCDs
>he thinks CRTs have a "resolution"
Lurk moar
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>>61011712
new macbook pros are built out of some fancy aluminium

dropped my TB pro from like 4 feet and not a scratch
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I have one. I basically only use it for work because it just works with the rest of my office's hardware (monitors, chiefly). Got it on sale at Best Buy for $1,000. But then again, I'm kind of an idort

>Work in marketing
>One of those 'cool trendy' offices
>You know the ones
>Everyone is young (to be fair I'm only 24, so I'm no better)
>There's an office dog
>No cubicles
>Everyone has multiple mac monitors and desks that can go from traditional (the sit down type) to standing
>If they're not using their monitors they're working on mac laptops
>Or playing around on their iPhones/iPads
>I think I'm the only one in the office who uses an Android (Nexus 5x)
>Even our IT staff uses Apple products
>Bring my 2015 rMBP in to work
>Plug into monitors, do work
>Edit/write copy, make designs, attend meetings, fiddle with GA, SEO and automated marketing software
>Go home play on my gaming computer of futz around with my Thinkpad running linux

P-Plus I don't feel left out
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>>61011909
>13 macbook pros start at $1300 and that's the more popular model
1450€ here. That's $1620.
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>>61014718
Back to >>>/taringa/
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>>61015126
CRTs have a resolution dummy
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>>61012408

Antifragile

>>61012460

The point is a consumer sees this years phone/computer and compares it to their year or two old phone/comp and starts to feel inferior. Even though for the typical user there will be very little day to day difference between the two.
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>>61014931
That guy looks like a cuck
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>>61011838
Acceleration, though lambos aren't really worth the price compared to competitors
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>>61011551
women are stupid
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>>61011551

Quality and an operating system that's better polished and better than WinShit. I'd rather use Mac OS instead anyday instead of unprofessional, unstable and buggy penguins
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>>61011662
>faulty analogy
what a bunch of shit
cars today are much quicker and faster and superior in every way compared to their predecessors.
art is not a functional device. you cannot measure its performance quantitatively the way you can any piece of technology. computers improve, cars improve, medical imaging improves, cancer treatments improve. there is no basis by which you can measure art to assess whether is has improved over previous artwork
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>>61015331
t. Someone who doesnt understand CRTs
CRTs have lines. Which could be seen as a discrete resolution vertically. However, there is no resolution in the horizontal direction.
A graphics card outputs data discretely, and thus it will output that to the CRT to display, but the CRT takes that data and makes it not discrete.
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>>61015891
It's not about that at all. The electronic devices replaced in the fashion described in the paragraph are perfectly functional and do everything pretty much just as well as the new one. The reason they are replaced is not the technological advance. It's pure novelty. The fact that something newer looking is available immediately renders your device old. The progress between the iterations is absolutely irrelevant to most people.
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>>61013030
>pol faggotry
>pepe
Unironically kys
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>>61011551
'Cause I need the powah to run my pirate botnet version of photoshop to keep the meme train rollin'
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>>61011639
Great bikes those heaps of engine upgrades and you can pull tricks without worrying about dropping that choise R1 you have for weekends.

Great commuter bike
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>>61015993
>The reason they are replaced is not the technological advance. It's pure novelty.
that's false though
the current razer blade is more powerful than the 2014 model. the current civic is more powerful than the 2014 model.
whether or not the upgrade is warranted or needed by any one person is another story. the devices are quantifiabley superior though
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>>61015976
>However, there is no resolution in the horizontal direction.
t. Someone who doesnt understand CRTs

Do you think CRTs just shoot lines of coloured electrons into your eyes, you dumb shit? Read up on the phosphor layer before talking out of your ass.
If you still don't understand it, just take a CRT and look real fucking close.
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>>61011551
Entrance to the club.
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>>61011639
Is that the vape or fidget spinner of bikes?
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>>61011551
because they are nice to use
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>>61015891
t. person who is getting a BFA.

Art definitely can be measured quantifiably. We can take art made today, and call it contemporary art. Art made in the 1980's is it's own period. There is a progression of aesthetics over time that mirrors the progress of vehicles or cpus dumbie.
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>>61016317
>There is a progression of aesthetics over time that mirrors the progress of vehicles or cpus dumbie.
measure that progression quantitatively
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>>61016074
Just upgrade the civic and laptop, tada.
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>>61016146
Best post
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>>61016147
/thread
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>>61011551
High sierra's metal 2 supporting and competing directly with vulkan instead of 3 years behind it
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>>61016353
Do you want that in contributing to one type of form, number of brushstrokes, references to other pieces of art/culture/memes, or number of people recognizing and reviewing/praising/hating it?
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>>61015374
>The point is a consumer sees this years phone/computer and compares it to their year or two old phone/comp and starts to feel inferior. Even though for the typical user there will be very little day to day difference between the two.

I don't think that is really true. My moto g4 is a totally different tool than anything you could buy 10 or 15 years ago, maybe you don't need a new phone every year, but they get noticeably better over the semi long term
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>>61015993
>It's not about that at all. The electronic devices replaced in the fashion described in the paragraph are perfectly functional and do everything pretty much just as well as the new one. The reason they are replaced is not the technological advance. It's pure novelty. The fact that something newer looking is available immediately renders your device old. The progress between the iterations is absolutely irrelevant to most people.

There is a massive difference between phones a few years old and current phones. You don't have to go very far back in time till there were only dumb phones.

Phones are one specific thing that have changed so much they are not even the same devices as from just the year 2000
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>>61016511
you sound like an article form the onion.
none of those things can be said to be a measure of superiority or usefulness
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it's how poors show off apparently
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>>61012704

Re: GMOs, nice job falling for the red herring, you retard. GMOs do not cause cancer. However, the rampant overuse of herbicides and pesticides that GMOs are often engineered to make possible (think Roundup-Ready crops) *does* cause cancer. Glyphosate (Roundup) is known to be genotoxic and carcinogenic at concentrations considerably lower than those used in farming.
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>>61013030
>not hiding the menubar and dock
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>>61012852
Why would you replace a perfectly fine laptop in 3 years, unless it has shitty apple build quality
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>>61012309
It's your friends from /o/ anon!
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>>61012852
More like

XPS 13
$799 new
$450 in 3 years
$349 loss

MBP 13
$1799 new
$950 in 3 years
$849 loss

You macfags tout Resale value but since you faggots don't have a brain to do even simple 1st grade math, Macs are still more expensive in the long run. So thanks for proving that macfags are indeed retards.
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>>61017109
The XPS with remotely similar specs to the $1800 mbp is $1500

and this is what a 3 year old retina mbp sells for

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-MacBook-Pro-Retina-15-034-MGXC2LL-Mid-2014-i7-2-5ghz-16GB-512GB-SSD-/232372426002?hash=item361a79d512%3Ag%3AxO0AAOSwi8VZQaRN&nma=true&si=7D2Od%252FSdlO1CCgyOJ0pGwCJ1ERM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
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>>61017109
>comparing the $799 xps to the $1799 mbp

seems legit
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>>61011672
im actually much happier pointing out how retarded people are for buying macbooks
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>>61016584
You can't quantify something subjective in "superiority" and "usefullness".

That's like trying to say gold and superior and more useful than silver as a paint color.
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>>61016524

The point is buying a new product when what you have now is only a few years old. He is not talking about a new phone vs slider from 2006.

>>61015891

He makes the same point with cars, explaining that this years new model will usually only be a facelift with maybe a few minor mechanical difference.

>>61016074

And those difference matter very little to the vast majority of consumers. Its a case of "this looks newer than my thing I need it"
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>>61017243
What more you want in your shitposting machine?
Workstations are for work, PCs for gayyming, PCs/HTPCs for multimedia and laptops are only useful for 4chins (or kikebook if you are a literal fag).
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>>61017451
>The point is buying a new product when what you have now is only a few years old. He is not talking about a new phone vs slider from 2006.
If you bought a new phone every 3 yeas since the first smart phones came out you would only have bought 3 phones and you would have an infinitely better phone than the one before last
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>>61017489
>What more you want in your shitposting machine?
then why not compare the $1299 macbook pro to the xps or the 999$ macbook air to it?

why choose the one with $500 worth of upgrades to compare to the bare bones lowest xps there is?
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>>61017501
Because that's all you need.
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>>61017501
What the fuck are you talking about? The base model Touchbar is $1799 and is the only one that starts matching the CPU and RAM options of the XPS 13.
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>>61017489
>Workstations are for work, PCs for gayyming, PCs/HTPCs for multimedia and laptops are only useful for 4chins (or kikebook if you are a literal fag).

still comparing a 128gb hd 4gb ram computer with an i3 to one with triple the specs is disingenuous

no macbook pro has such bad specs
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>>61017490
>autist missing the point completely

guess I shouldnt be surprised
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>>61017521
>What the fuck are you talking about? The base model Touchbar is $1799 and is the only one that starts matching the CPU and RAM options of the XPS 13.
uh no?

the $1299 mbp has an i5 processor and double the ram of the $799 xps
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>>61017562
fuck you i am not missing the point I am explaining how people buying something to replace something they own that is better in every way is not buying shit they don't need just for the sake of buying something you are retarded
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>>61017563
>all i5s are identical
No, and the $799 XPS starts with 8GB RAM
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>>61017574
>anon says buying more powerful shitposting laptop makes no sense because they are more than enough powerful already
>make some inane comments about phones
OK
>>
>tfw I spent 1400 USD after tax to buy a really good gaming PC
>only use it to play games I could with an $800 USD PC
I can relate
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>>61011712
If it had dents you weren't gentle with it. It's that simple. I'm pretty rough with my rMBP and it doesn't have a single dent after 3 years of ownership.
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>>61017600
are you even bothering to look up the shit you are posting


4GB LPDDR3 1866MHz

with an i3

it's inferior to the MBP in important multihudnred dollar pieces of hardware

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-13-9360-laptop/dncwt5128hv2?s=dhs&oc=dncwt5128hv2&cid=310435&st=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMItqvG96XQ1AIVFyOBCh1POgSjEAYYASABEgIEC_D_BwE&lid=5908672&VEN1=sV5r3hacM,200579647641,901pdb6671,c,,DNCWT5128HV2&VEN2=,&dgc=st&dgseg=dhs&acd=1230980731501410&VEN3=570903410856656739

4gb of ram is pretty weak to be honest
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>>61017638
also it has much lower resolution

13.3" FHD AG (1920 x 1080) InfinityEdge display, Non-touch
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>>61017243
Considering the macshit will throttle to 40% performance under load, it's a perfectly legit comparison.
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>>61017721
never had that problem on mine while running multiple virtual machines on my 2015 rmbp
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>>61017741
2 rupees have been deposited to your iTunes account.
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>>61017771
creative and original
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>>61017721
That's just sad.
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>>61011551
Why do you drive a car instead of a Smartcar (or take the bus or a bike)?

Thorstein Veblen calls it "conspicuous consumption". It doesn't just apply to the wealthy. It's any of our luxury goods that increase in demand as their prices increase. We do it just to show off our spending power.
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>>61011551

well built
just werks
not poor
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>>61011551
Most laptops aren't bought privately.
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>>61017721
MACTODDLERS.BTFO
>>
15" or 13" for a college student? money is not really an issue BUT i don't want to throw too much at something that may end up being absolutely overkill either.
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>>61017721
Christ, what kind of gullible retard would buy mac trash?
>>
Macbook Pro is $5000 here.
>>
What you overlook is that because Apple hardware is standardised and they have a genuinely accessible global dealer network you can go to most places in the world and get it sorted out.
This matters a lot to people who travel a lot for work.
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>>61011551
Having money and not giving a shit.
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>>61018076
what will you be doing with it? video games? just taking notes and shitposting/browsing?

The 15 with discrete graphics and the toolbar is rank overkill for 99% of people

the only reason to get it is if you know you need it or if you have enough money to justify that much of an increase in price just for 2 inches of extra screen.

I personally use a 17mbp from 7 years ago and I hate apple for not making a 17 anymore, but I am unusual like that. Also I am 6'6 and carrying around a 17 does not bother me
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>>61018365
This, having a manufacturer retail location in your town is a huge plus for normies, dell does not do this, almost nobody else does.

My father always has computer problems and just fucks shit up in general. 5 years ago I got tired of fixing his tedious problems that nobody else ever has and suggested he buy a mac, (he is retried from a high level position and has money) now he goes to little classes they have at the mac store and when he has any problem he takes it there and they fix it

worth a lot to me kek
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>>61011551
daddy's money
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>>61018446
>worth a lot to me
Yeah, especially if it's not your money paying for your peace.
>>
>>61011551
You see, I am fond of beautiful things, some people are willing to pay a bit more for something that looks better. A lot of the Windows machines are butt ugly.
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>>61018076
I have an rMBP and I will be ponying up for a new 15" when I have the funds. The extra workspace is nice. Get the one with discrete graphics if you can.
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>>61011571
>Thinking being a materialist consumer-capitalist pig is better than being an enlightened NEET
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>>61018500
People forget how expensive computers used to be, back in the 90s any laptop was $2500

in the late 80s it was worse

for my retired dad to be able to go buy a sub 1500 laptop and take it to a local location to be fixed for free and sign up for classes there and have fewer issues than with a windows box on a computer he bought apple care for 3 years on is a bargain, he hooks it up to a big monitor and surfs the web and watches movies and documentaries all day, pays his bills with it, and uses it for hours, more than any other applience he owns. He also now feels comfortable selling on ebay with it which gets rid of the endless bullshit he owns and brings in money and is happy now that he does not get viruses or weird errors

all for like a dollar a day

money well spent, never at any time in human history could someone buy something so useful and entertaining co cheaply
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>>61018135
Being a gullible retard is a prerequisite for being an Apple customer.
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>>61018604
my 62 year old dad looks nothing like that
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>>61018597
A man can't even appreciate joke in peace?
Stop your shilling, it's having opposite effect.
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>>61018678
how dare anyone discuses or relate anecdotes about technology on /g/

pic related it's my gf
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>>61018735
>anon writes a post (last line is a joke)
>other anon appreciates the joke
>DUDE THE NEW APPLE IS REALLY WORTH IT
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>>61018772
>>DUDE THE NEW APPLE IS REALLY WORTH IT
if someone else is paying XD
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>>61011551
Unix subsystem w/ commercial software support. Well engineered hardware that the company stands behind with Apple care. Feels good not buying a plastic chink shit computer every 2 years.
>>
>>61011551
because they want something that just works instead of a computer that shits the bed every five minutes with BSODs, wannacrypt, and failed Windows Updates
>restarting now... *spinning circle*
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>>61013030
>autismo.jpeg
>>
>>61018790
>overheating throttling soldered unservicable trash
>well engineered

This is why mactoddlers are universally regarded as tech illiterate retards.
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>>61018735
CRACKYCHAN IS NOT YOUR GF

also where did you get this pic
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>>61018968
I took it when we were out together

^_^
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>>61018913
they seem to be smarter than Windows users.
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$350 WINDOWS COMPUTERS WITH 4GB of RAM AND 128GB HDs WITH 1900 RESOLUTION USING i3 PROCESSORS AND WINBLOS ARE THE EQUAL OF 16GB RAM 2800x RESOLUTION 512 M.2 PCIE DRIVES

WHY WOULD ANYONE PAY MORE JUST BECAUSE ALL THE MAC HARDWARE IS FAR SUPERIOR

OMG MCTODDLERS BLOWN OUT@!!!!
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>>61019228
You just typed some random shit as hyperbole, but the hysterical reality is that it's true.
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>>61019269
MCTODDLERS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT!!!!
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>>61019228
>specs are everything! It doesn't matter if it throttles at 800MHz doing the simplest tasks such as browsing facebook!
Throttlebook cucks btfo? Yes they are!
>>
>>61019269
>lets disable the GPU then run one test then bitch forever about it without providing stats or who did the tests

you don't have to disable the GPU anon, in fact you should enable it when doing such heavy tests
>>
>>61019313
>you don't have to disable the GPU anon, in fact you should enable it when doing such heavy tests

BTFO
T
F
O
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>>61019313
If it throttles that badly when only testing the CPU, imagine how much more behind it would be if the GPU is involved?
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>>61019269

>Premier Pro
>on Mac
>Premier Pro
>AMD GPU

Are we just going to link random YouTubers who don't know what they're doing?
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>>61019313
The test shows the difference in engineering ability and design of laptops using the same CPU with the vastly different GPUs taken out of the equation.

Applel street shitters got BTFO.
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>>61019346
>Applel street shitters

the fuck does that even mean
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>>61019342
>t. mactoddler
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>>61019363
see his pic, lurk long enough to learn poo in loo meme and maybe it will make sense.
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>>61019363
It's code for Apple employee.
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>>61019389
then should they not say "luxury apartment shitter"?
>>
>>61015597
He's a bodybuilding, blunt smoking, stem-cell using, multi-millionaire that eats steak of the asses of models on his Snapchat story regularly.

You're a fucking cuck.
>>
>>61018735

is this really cracky?
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You can configure an x1 carbon with roughly the same stats as a current gen macbook pro and save a couple hundred dollars. Plus they're linux certified (if you care about that).
And this is just the website price without any discount. You can probably find the exact same model sold for a few hundred less from a third-party vendor, or if you're a college student you get 20% off automatically.
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>>61019482
yes

so is this
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>>61017741
>m-my unit is an exception to any benchmarks
desperate t o b e honest family
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>>61019489
>>61019482
and this
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>>61011571
installment plans don't make you rich even if you don't pay them fully
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>>61019485
Comparison.
>macbook pro
2.9ghz i7
16gb memory
512 SSD storage
Radeon Pro 560 4GB

2,799 + tax & shipping

>thinkpad x1 carbon 5th gen
i5 7th gen 3.5ghz
16gb memory
Intel HD graphics 620 (Radeon Pro wins here)
1TB SSD storage

So, basically you're paying roughly 800$ more for a Radeon Pro 560 and a 4k screen.

I cannot understand why anyone would ever pay this much for a macbook pro when you can go to a different brand and save almost a thousand dollars and actually get even better specs in some areas. And if you really need a dedicated GPU for gaming, there are gaming laptops in the same price range that blow the macbook pro away and are STILL cheaper.
>>
>>61019640
>So, basically you're paying roughly 800$ more for a Radeon Pro 560 and a 4k screen.

and a bigger fucking screen

christ you winfags are bad a specing shit out
>>
>>61019687
It's 1 fucking inch bigger. That, plus a shitty dedicated GPU and 4k is not worth 800 dollars more.
>>
>>61019700
sure is

find a 15 and spec it out with even specs

dell makes 15s, why are you too afraid to use those models with equal specs?
>>
>>61019717
I'm not going to entertain your stupidity. Why don't you back up your argument by doing it yourself, then coming back here and posting a comparison like I did?
>>
>>61019738
>I'm not going to entertain your stupidity. Why don't you back up your argument by doing it yourself, then coming back here and posting a comparison like I did?
Why don't you spec out a 15 inch dell and not pretend a 14 is a 15?

dell makes 15s, you can do it, it won't be hard

(hint, they will be more expensive)
>>
>>61019756
I'm still waiting for you to do some real work and not be a lazy fuck demanding we take his word for it.
>>
>>61011551

Build quality, screen quality, disposable income, level of tech normieness

I don't like getting taken for a ride so even if I did have the money for something like an S8 I still would have gone with my chink shit Mi5. Same thing with the laptop
>>
>specs out inferior Dell

HEY LOOK THIS DELL IS CHEAPER THAN A MAC

>winfags
>>
>>61016122
>comparing phosphor triads to pixels
>implying they affect resolution at all
>>
>>61019812
>still hasn't provided any proof
>obviously just shitposting for attention
low hanging fruit, kiddo
>>
>>61019911
>>still hasn't provided any proof
any proof that you keep specking out machines with worse processors, less ram, less resolution and smaller screens then comparing them to better speced machines?

yes i have
>>
>>61019823
b8
>>
>>61019981
>hurr durr my argument got refuted, must be b8!
>>
>>61019448
he's an insecure manlet that wears boots to increase his height and keeps that shitty beard to hide his fucked face,who literally lives off daddy's money and hires paid whores and instagram "influencers" to hand out with him
>>
>>61012911
Damn right its a Capitalist status symbol.
>>
>>61019511
What are those on are arm? She's a cutter?
>>
>>61019812
>muh specs

You have to double the specs on macs to match real laptops since macs are all overheating throttling piles of shit.
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>>61019414
I find that distressing
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>>61020152
>What are those on are arm? She's a cutter?
yes

do you not know who cracky is?
>>
kys
>>
1. Marketing
2. They're dumb
3. They honestly think they need to spend that kind of money to get a computer that has over the top specs for their hardcore gaming (candy crush)
>>
CRACKY I LOVE YOU
>>
>>61015891
>cars today are much quicker and faster
maybe at the higher end. most cards today are heavier, fatter, uglier, and generally a worse value. they're also less fun to drive generally.
>>
>>61017636
in my experience:
minor impact on decent plastic shell laptop -
>scratch/scuff

minor impact on a macbook -
>very obvious and annoying dent forever
>>
>>61022170
>maybe at the higher end. most cards today are heavier, fatter, uglier, and generally a worse value. they're also less fun to drive generally.

depends on what era you are comparing the car to

cars of the 50s were heavier slower less safe worse mileage, the engines would crap out at 65k miles, had drum brakes and could not stop for shit had no air bags and were unsafe and were FAR less nimble in corners and were hard to drive compared to modern cars and did not come with air conditioning
>>
>>61011838
so lambos are a waste of money and don't perform according to their price? wow I never knew that
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>>61011838
Macshit is literally a fucking Ford Pinto with a fake lambo body kit yet still has a real lambo price tag.
>>
>>61012818
>m.2 drives
meme overpriced SSD

>2k+ displays
muh smooth edges totally worth the extra cost, power drain, and fucking up static content.

if I could buy a beast laptop with a nice 1600x900 display I would.
>>
>>61022203
I mean yeah I wasn't thinking that far back, but then you wouldn't want to daily use a computer from the 50s either. after a point something becomes too slow to be used with modern software. but you could still drive a car from the 50s, easy. you couldn't open facebook on a 1950s computer. my $80 2004 thinkpad does it tho.

also there is the whole ultralight thin meme. I don't like the idea of paying 1k+ for a fancy netbook or a throttling mess. an expensive laptop should be THICC and powerful.
>>
>>61022224
LameBoreMemeys are high performance cars for people that don't understand what makes a car high performance.

If they made laptops it would be Ferrari as an underperforming throttling overpriced macbook while LameBoreMemey would be an led strewn "gaming" laptop with 10 minute battery life screeching autistically for attention.

Anyone that says they like them on /o/ gets a 6 year ban for being 12 years old.
>>
>>61017938
smartcars are more expensive than better used cars :/
>>
>>61019228
it's not a desktop bro. what, you rendering shit at starbucks?
>>
>>61011737
>>61011639
explain grom. it looks odd, is it some /o/ joke?
>>
>>61022170
>maybe at the higher end. most cards today are heavier, fatter, uglier, and generally a worse value. they're also less fun to drive generally.
compare a civic or accord today with its predecessors. they are much quicker. v6 accord does 0-60 in under 6 seconds. a fucking accord does 0-60 as fast as a '69 mach 1 mustang.
>>
>>61023242
Jesus fucking Christ dude engines and tire compounds came a long way in 50 years

Was /g always this dense?

BTW man, they made an LS2 corvette in the 60's with 600+ Horsepower Atgat achieved 200 mph, but did not make more than a couple cars, so no record.

Shit, take the Shelby AC 427 and consider its 0-60 of 3 1/2 seconds on big fat rubber because it didn't have windows or a roof?

It doesn't take a genius
>>
Should I buy an old macbook Pro(late 2013) (same design as the 2015 model) for 500$

or a new one for 1500$?
Will the thicker design look old in a few years?
>>
>>61022243
>Render test with GPU disabled
Why even bother testing such a thing? It's like measuring walking speed on quadruple amputees
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>>61011551

Here's why.

You have to pay a kidney to get one of their machines, but the moment you complete your purchase is the moment they leave you alone. They're fucking scared about you leaving them as a company, because they don't have MS monopoly so they have to make sure you'll spontaneously keep buying their shit. So you get a PC that's expected to last at least 8-9 years, while most Best Buy prebuilts/plastic laptops start melting or having problems in 3-4 years.

You know anyabout PCs?

Then stay away, but if you're illiterate, going with Apple is literally the safest bet.
Current OS X has a set of limitations that makes it basically impossible to get problems by messing with the system: kids, elders and idiots can't fuck up their pc by accident, and that's a huge pro to stupid people.

Just think about the alternative. You decide to go with Windows (Linux is 2deep4them). You'll get a system that keeps asking for money. Filled with ads, everywhere; even fucking Solitaire is asking you to pay for DLC.
A system that lacks old features while introducing new, useless ones. A system that keeps sending unspecified data to unspecified targets for unspecified reasons (remember how Apple got in deep shit with the FBI when they refused to make a backdoor for their systems?).
Other than that, you get basically no assistance (while Apple customer support is basically sucking your dick, pun not intended), and a vulnerable system that isn't even automatically protected by their makers (while Apple releases daily free security upgrades to cover any new virus/malware/miner/botnet effecting os x).

Apple is anti-customer because most of its PCs are a pain in the ass to open, and they're way overpriced.
Microsoft is anti-customer because according to them, the moment you get on their system is the moment you start bending over.

So yeah, that's why a rich illiterate would prefer a Mac.
But if he's smart and poor he's still making a mistake.
>>
>>61020065

>ugly lanklet detected
>>
>>61011551
If you have a job, 2k is nothing, so you can ignore it and compare how well other laptops would do the same tasks ... since they are worse, it's a no brainer.
>>
I own both an XPS 13 and Mac book air, windows laptops cut a lot of corners to get those nice looking spec lists.

if you want to buy a windows laptop , go buy a windows laptop, who gives a shit.

retards on the internet seem to think that if a device doesn't suit them then it must be crap.
>>
who even uses laptops anymore?

ipad
iphone
pc desktop

this is the omega race
>>
>>61028402
The only thing an iPad is better for, is drawing. Otherwise the 12" Macbook is superior to it even for stuff like shitposting or watching chinese cartoons.

If anything, tablets are a waste of time and space for most people due all the limitations.
>>
>>61013229
>>61013269
NOT JUST THE SCREENSIZE
the 15inch has a quadcore and 2 (two) fans while the 13inch has a dualcore and 1 (one) fan
>>
>>61028761
Which is pretty pointless unless you run really demanding shit all the fucking time.
>>
>>61028707
ill take the 13" iPad over a 12" macbook. unless you need some portable word processing, ipads better for everything.
>>
>>61028761
Plus dedicated GPUs.
>>
>>61029047
Why? It's more comfy to consume media on 12" MB too due having a stable base to hold on to compared to some shitty keyboard cover or just the screen. For something like reading newspapers/manga/books, 13" would be a bit too much too.
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>>61029378
ive had both, no its not
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>>61011566
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