https://www.servethehome.com/amd-ep yc-7601-dual-socket-earl

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>>61000033
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW GOYIM

>>60999999

Hmm, that's a rather power hungry NIC, a lot of RAM and two 15W+ SSDs

For AVX workload, that's real fucking good.

>>61000033
>500W
You guys shitposted all day when skylake-x used 286W. How will you defend this, shills?

>>61000142
0/10 bait friend.

>>61000142
also amd avx2 is 2x128bit not 256bit

>>61000178
Yeah, but AMD does 4 FMA per cycle, while Intel does 3.

>>61000142
500W at the wall, Skylake-X uses 286W by itself. Additionally, each one of these CPUs is 32 cores with 64 threads, compared to the 10/20 of the Skylake-X chip. This is some seriously impressive thermal and per-watt performance, especially for a server chip running AVX workloads.

>>61000521
Note, this is *2 CPUs*, and the 500W is *whole system* power draw with AVX workloads with 32 physical cores. These CPUs are dainty powersippers in comparison to the Skylake-X chip. This is completely insane.

>>61000559
>amd releases the superior product
>m-muh shills

>>61000142
~500 at wall on 64 core 128 thread.

vs

~ 286w for just the CPU on 10c 20t

286/10 = ~28.6w per core
500/64 = ~7.8w per core

Ryze is 3.6x more power efficient.

Xeon CPU architecture is proven and battle tested, delivering outstanding performance on a wide range of workloads and specifically designed to maximize data center performance, capabilities, reliability, and manageability.

DELETE

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>>61000583
>mfw literal shills

>>61000583
Post the entire pasta.

>>61000597
>>61000600
AMD is trying to re-enter the server market segment, Intel continues to deliver 20+ years of uninterrupted data center innovations while maintaining broad ecosystem investments. Xeon CPU architecture is proven and battle tested, delivering outstanding performance on a wide range of workloads and specifically designed to maximize data center performance, capabilities, reliability, and manageability. With next-generation Xeon Scalable processors, Intel expects to continue offering the highest core and system performance versus AMD. AMD’s approach of stitching together 4 desktop die in a processor is expected to lead to inconsistent performance and other deployment complexities in the data center.

>>61000615
AMD doesn't stand a chance

>>61000615
>having to OFFICIALLY damage control an hour after EPYC launch using FUD and scare tactics

This is way too cute.

>>61000615
This just reads like marketing material.

>>61000600
http://www.barrons.com/articles/amd-reveals-epyc-details-intel-vows-to-top-it-1497997334

The beast is afraid.

>>61000625
t. intel
>http://www.barrons.com/articles/amd-reveals-epyc-details-intel-vows-to-top-it-1497997334

>>61000628
>>61000632
literally using the same arguments as shills on /g/ were using

>>61000632
because it is dummy

>>61000033
>64 Core 2P high performance x86 cores
>LESS THAN 500W

I think even Knights Landing is going down.

>>61000637
>>61000452
it's a meme you dip

>>61000659
>meme
>intel literally said that, followed by source

>>61000647
Zen can't into ebin superwide vectors since AMD has FUCKING GPUs for massively parallel workloads.

>>61000637
you are very dense..

Has there ever been 8 processor boards? I wonder if Intel will be forced to go that route. Or perhaps AMD will go that far to attract very high density server clients.

>>61000712
They already have 8 socket boards, they make 1% of the market.

>>61000692
well amdtards aren't very bright
considering most of them are newfags straight from /r/amd

>>61000692
>>61000764
>clutching at straws

>>61000033
>stock didn't blow up

I don't get it

>>61000178
EPYC has AVX256

>>61000559
>all that denial

I'd feel bad for you, but then I just upgraded to an r7 1800

>so, you know..I don't

Has it ever occurred to anyone that the shills that defend AMD are perhaps invested in the company?
Maybe that's why r/amd and /g/ root for it so hard, I mean why else would you shill for AMD?
It's shares are affordable compared to nvidia.

>>61000764
you are very dense..

>>61001239
Your screeching isn't going anywhere, go back to the oven you released.

>>61001239
Has it ever occurred to anyone that the shills that defend Intel are perhaps invested in the company?
Maybe that's why r/JIDF and /g/ root for it so hard, I mean why else would you shill for Intel?
It's shares are jewish owned compared to AMD.

>everyone already forgot Spitfire-X

Good job AMD

>>61001344
Too much win for today.

>>61001239
Nah, I just want AMD to light a fire under Intel's ass to force them to innovate for once, since they are pretty stagnant over the last few years.

>>61001239
I don't own shares in anything other than the company I work for IRL (not tech related). I just want to see the Jewish Intel and Nvidia lose.

>>61000000

>>61001430
Why would you want Nvidia to lose? ATI and AMD has never made any significant progress ior contributions to the GPU market and likely never will. AMD needs to sell their graphics division, buying ATI was a massive mistake.

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>>61001239

>>61001632
>ATI and AMD has never made any significant progress ior contributions to the GPU market
Are you
motherfucking
INSANE my dude?

>>61001632
This is some grade A delusion.

>>61001632
Are you fucking retarded? Pretty much everything you see in GPUs nowadays has been pioneered by ATi close to 2 decades ago.

Wanna know who never made any contributions to GPU? I'll tell you, it starts with N.

>>61001650
If I close my eyes it never happened.

>>61000060
>>61001637
You're not funny.

>>61001676
Nvidia and 3DFX are pretty much the reason 3d accelerators/GPU's took off in the first place. Not to mention Nvidia is making huge gains in the GPGPU industry. Hell, Nvidia is a rival to Intel almost as much as AMD is now. Meanwhile AMD has almost zero prescience in the high end/professional market, the Vega Frontier looks underwhelming, and being so late and delayed isn't helping. The 1080 and Pascal Titans have been out for fucking forever and AMD is just now forming a response, assuming it's not delayed again. We need another competitor in the GPU space since AMD is a non-competitor. They should sell the ATI tech/patents to Samsung or Apple or someone.

>>61001747
> Not to mention Nvidia is making huge gains in the GPGPU industry.
Vendor lockdown with proprietary APIs is not an engineering feat. Name ONE thing nvidia actually pioneered that is not some kind of software stack.

>>61001747
>Nvidia is a rival to Intel almost as much as AMD is now.
Haha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA. Oh shit.

>>61000033
Slylake-X 10 core 7900X in AVX2
>385 watts from the CPU alone
Epyc 64 core in AVX2
>483 watts from the wall
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>61001746
you again?

>>61001676
Unified shader model was Nvidia, wasn't it?
That was probably the biggest breakthrough but ATI had done 9 out of the next 10 big breakthroughs.

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>>61001747
1.7 woodscrews porkshoulders housefires fuck off Huang.

>>61001843
ATi was first to unified shaders with Xenos back in 2005. No, nvidia can't into hardware engineering. Like, at all. They are good at marketing.

>>61001836
So you are just one person sitting on /g/ 24/7 posting the same images over and over.
Just out of curiosity, why the obsession with CPU brands? Do you actually use CPUs for anything except shitposting? If your entire computing needs could be met by a Cyrix 486, why do you sit in Intel/AMD threads all day?

>>61001850
Memes won't change the fact that AMD has pretty much 0% GPU marketshare. The 1080 and 1070 sold better than the 480, which /g/ repeatedly said would drive Nvidia bankrupt. Nvidia's marketshare is increasing while AMD's is constantly decreasing. Again, AMD isn't competitive with Nvidia, they've essentially lost the GPU war and need to cut their losses.

>>61001892
Hahahahaha i am fucking dying right now. These levels of delusion are only possible with nVidia™.

>>61001892
Thermi outsold Evergreen. Gaymurz are just retards, there's no saving them. They deserve nothing.

>>61001852
Oh. Huh. Thanks for the correction. I always hear that Nvidia came out with that first with the GTX 8000 series in 2006. Now I find out that was all a lie. You're right, Xenos came out in 2005 and had a unified shader model.
Well Nvidia did get their secret tiling and culling with Maxwell, which were key to its power efficiency. Not really a big deal though since it's not what made for a GPU that could also be sold to the compute market.

But yeah. Nvidia's key thing was always marketing about all else. They've only recently had a clearly superior product for more than 18 months straight over ATI/AMD for the first time.
And even then they have their gimped as shit memory bus and memory controller that builds planned obsolescence into them. I don't know how anyone buys that garbage still.

>>61001892
>what is marketing
No one said Nvidia isn't good at that and AMD isn't shit at it. They were talking about technology and innovation.

>>61001913

>>61001913
>Gaymurz are just retards, there's no saving them. They deserve nothing.
AMD has almost no presence in the high end workstation market either dude. Vega isn't likely to change that either.

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>>61001885

>>61000570
The absolute madman

>>61001936
>Well Nvidia did get their secret tiling
PowerVR had that in 1994. Said Xeons also used tiling of sorts.
>>61001943
>Vendor lockdown with proprietary APIs
Works very well, anon.

>>61001948
You're not funny.

>>61001976
Yes, but the Maxwell tiled raster is particularly efficient.
Polaris does it as well, though just 4 tiles. It doesn't see nearly the boost in efficiency. Vega's is supposed to be a lot better.

>>61001976
>Works very well, anon.
It's just annoying how /g/ always whines about "retard gaymers" but doesn't realize that gamers are the only ones even buying AMD for the past 5 years. The company would have been bankrupt if it weren't for gamer fanboys buying every AMD product. It sure as hell wasn't the 1% server marketshare or 0% GPGPU marketshare keeping the company afloat.

>>61002032
Console sales helped a lot there.

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>>61002001
yes merchant
sorry merchant

>>61002032
Consoles. Also
>GPGPU
A meme.
>>61002025
Not just Polaris, GCN inherently spreads workload into 4 big tiles for 4 shader engines.

>>61002001
Nah it's pretty funny tbqh

>>61002074
You're not funny.

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>>61002109
I'm sorry merchant pls halp me maek funny

>>61002171
You're not funny.

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>>61002250
I'm trying to get better but ur not helping rebbe

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>>61002109
>>61002250

>>61002268
You're not funny.

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>>61002300

>>61001843
>Unified shader model was Nvidia, wasn't it?
no, first unified shader was in console designed by ATI->AMD

>>61002320
You're not funny.

>>61001976
>Vendor lockdown with proprietary APIs
>Works very well, anon.
tell it to 3dfx, anon
oh wait

hilariously enough nvidia doing exactly what they did back then

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>>61001746
Rope yourself anon

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>>61002393

JUST
>>61002557
>>61002557
>>61002557

>>61002417
Yeah, but they're a lot like Apple in a lot of ways.
Their marketing is keeping them going.
But if they aren't careful, it could all collapse in on them.

>>61002639
>but they're a lot like Apple in a lot of ways
and apple is pretty much small niche for richfags outside US

>>61002439
You're not funny.

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>>61002951

Some nice, rare merchants in this thread.

>>61003243
You're not funny.

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>>61003269

>>61003500
You're not funny.

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>>61003539

>>61000521
right because amd relased a server chip to compete with HEDT

its this time of the year again

1800x vs 7700k
threadripper vs xeon
epyc vs hedt

>>61003560
You're not funny.

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>>61003645

>>61000142
what's it like being so fucking stupid?

>>61001892
As a lifetime buyer of ATI/AMD i love to see them now crash and burn from their arrogance. They fucked over the high end.

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>>61003645
>>61003539
>>61003269
>>61002951
>>61002393
>>61002300
>>61002250
>>61002109
>>61002001
>>61001746
mods, give us a fucking chat filter for this good goy

>>61003645
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfD4y3Y3qpI
Celebrate what your love most until AMD brings you your well deserved shoa.

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Holy shit what a time to be alive. Intel's memelake and baby lake desktop lines are housefires. Intel releases more housefires in a knee jerk reaction to AMD for desktop and server. AMD promised performance around ivy bridge and haswell and delivers more. AMD server solutions look fanfuckingtastic across the board. Intel sells space heaters which consume hot cum loads of power.

>>61003695
You're not funny.

>>61003804
good goy

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I wonder if Intel will give us a newer Preshott happening. How many times can this company keep fucking up royally and still survive?

>>61003825
You're not funny.

>>61003839
good goy

We fucking get it, AMD whooped Intel's ass with their processors.

Why the hell does the same garbage get reposted every single day on this board?

"INTEL SHILLZ BEETIEFFOH!!!!!!"

Do you guys ever stop, and with all the intelligence left in your autistic minds, think "oh gee maybe I should post something original"

It's almost as if you guys think you have to prove something. AMD >Intel. Done. We don't need a million threads about it.

I would go as far as to say the admins should ban "Intel vs AMD" threads (with the exception of civilized discussion of processors). It's getting to the point where you're not even talking about technology, you're shit slinging and having a pissing competition at the same time.

Same goes with "Android vs. Apple" or literally "[anything] vs. Apple." Do you guys ever actually think for a second and have the thought "maybe people need different products for different reasons" or maybe even "maybe this company is making its products for a certain demographic. I'm not part of that demographic but that's ok."

You guys seriously need to get over yourselves. It's not even an argument, let alone an actual discussion. It's just a pathetic way to feel part of something. I bet most of you don't actually care about technology. You read Intel and AMD's Wikipedia page and then go to PCWorld and base your opinions off of the thumbnails.

TL;DR: shut up

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>>61003861
all /g/ is is
>x BTFO!!!1!

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>>61003861
someone blew his lid

>>61003861
why u butt hurt?
its been years of people shitposting about how competition from amd doesnt force intel to move their asses or reduce prices. now that amd made a move they are pretty much forced to compete and consumers are the winner. this has nothing to do with who is better its just the state of the game.

why post about your period? just cause you sport a intel setup? kid grow up.

>>61003891
I wish it wasn't like that though. I would gladly have a >>>/gg/ (technology generals) if it were up to me. These threads serve virtually no purpose and are only there because some autistic retard thinks that he's "part of the club" if he posts one.

>>61003861
t. Intel and apple shill

>>61003923
this board doesnt serve any purpose except to echo the current oppinions. if it was really just shitposting it would have been deleted to save the traffic for other boards that supply better "posts" that can be converted into shekels

>>61003840
You're not funny.

>>61003942
good goy

>>61003948
You're not funny.

>>61003925
I'm not though. And guess what? There's a good chance someone else will come in and say I'm an Android shill/AMD shill. You retards will take a neutral post and claim it as your own by molding it into your own agenda.

If I'm being honest, I think AMD is better than Intel. They really outdid themselves this time and they're probably gonna keep it up.

Apple and Android? They both have their good parts and bad parts. One is made for one demographic, the other is made for a different demographic. Boom, two sentences to end the "war"

>>61003953
good goy

>>61003936
Then why don't they just make it a general exclusive board? People said the same thing about /v/ before they made /vg/. "Why have 2 boards that create less traffic?"

>>61003971
You're not funny.

>>61004018
good goy

>>61004024
You're not funny.

>>61004049
good goy

>>61004074
You're not funny

>>61004084
good goy

>>61000559
intel is shit

>>61004094
Ahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha

>>61004100
that's not your line
try again

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>anything remotely CPU related
>immedietly devolves into intel vs amd shilling
Really /g/?

>>61003832
T E J A S
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50 STAGES INFERNO

>>61003861
What the fuck is your problem with that exactly? Shitting on Intel is great. They well enough deserve it for having held back consumer CPUs for 7 years.
It certainly doesn't bother me, and I've literally been brand loyal to Intel for over 10 years now.

>>61001746
Careful bud, I heard they figured out how to bring Hitler back.

>>61003861
Hi JIDF

>>61003861
I think this time it's just the pure scale of things. AMD has better, cheaper, less demanding solutions for servers (EPYC), workstations (Ryzen somwhat fits AND there's threadripper coming soon), med- to high-end gayming (Ryzens). Ask yourself, what remains for Intel? Low-end and mobile, but the latter is being contested strongly by ARMs. When AMD gives us low-end procs/APUs that are just as better as other AMD's CPUs Intel is going to have no advantage anywhere. And we have to wait months to get something new from Intel.
I actually hope that Intel, at very worst, switches places with AMD, but I don't want it to vanish (monopoly is bad). Just... The sheer advantage AMD has now is incredible.

>>61005565
The bad part is that Intel has no mobile P6 derivative to save them now. It's new arch or bust.

>>61005587
That's honestly not a bad thing.
It is about time they actually bring out a new arch, you can't just iterate the same thing forever. 5% gains each iteration won't last.

>>61005613
And new arch must be scalable. And powerful without resorting to arson-enabling oversized vectors.

>>61003755
ati/amd never focused on their drivers and enterprise software support and it bit them in the ass

>>61005587 >>61005613
I'm pretty sure Intel has enough money to survive until new arch is out

>>61005647
While bleeding mind- and marketshare like crazy? Investors want 60% margins and Intel simply CANT maintain them against nu-AMD.

>>61005660
amd should have gone bankrupt multiple times since bulldozer then
Intel has fabs and lots of cash

>>61005677
>Intel has fabs
And? AMD has GloFo/IBM providing the BEST nodes possible.
>lots of cash
All the cash in the world won't save you with 10% marketshare.

>>61005647
They do but it's still a sign of how badly they've just been resting on their pile of money that they were caught with their pants around their ankles by Ryzen and more importantly Threadripper and Epyc.

>>61005685
You must be over 25 to post on this board.

Intel Deep Damage Control

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>>61005660
Ok - they HAD* enough money.

>>61005688
>not an argument

>>61005700
Only underage retard would think Intel would go bankrupt in 5 years.

>>61005710
They won't, but they'll lose a lot of money due to AMD and ARM.

>>61002667
Same market of people that buy the new Nvidia $700-$1200 GPU every 6-8 months.

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>yfw you live long enough to have /g/ as the technology shit posting containment board

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>>61001746
>being such a turbo goy

>>61001943
>AMD has almost no presence in the high end workstation market either dude. Epyc isn't likely to change that either.
Yeah sure.

>>61000033
>stock is closing on 14 dollaryroos
>not a fucking penny on

Tearing what little hair I have left out.

Bits And Chips - Eng on Twitter: "Thanks to Infinity Fabric and to high yelds, AMD is using 99,9% of Ryzen Die. WOW!" https://mobile.twitter.com/bitsandchipseng/status/877495715316060164 -via Flynx

Good fucking lord!

>>61009651
If true that is fucking insane. >99% chip useage is not something you hear normally when it comes to multi-billion transistor chips like this.

>>61009651
>>61009680
if for full 8 core parts is 80%, it's quite possible that they get some 95%+ for parts with less cores working

this basically gives AMD a massive profit margin even at low prices

>>61009689
and by looking at the 8 core EPYC, all they need is 1 core per CCX (2 per die) working properly

>b-but muh massive pool of L3 cache

>http://www.barrons.com/articles/amd-up-7-epyc-a-winner-says-street-now-they-just-have-to-take-share-1498060374
>We're not ready to fully endorse the performance claims for every workload, though. AMD's approach of using a multichip module is going to make some benchmarks look better, but for applications that have higher memory, latency performance will be worse (since even a single socket system will have multiple chips, each with its own memory bank, and a higher latency associated with accessing a different memory bank). AMD said that most software is already designed to minimize this limitation, but conceded that Intel will still be better for some workloads. And importantly, Intel's next generation server chip (Purley, based on Skylake architecture) is shipping in 3q, basically the same timeframe as AMD. So we need a broader set of characterizations to truly assess where AMD shines.

>>61000632
It's more like pr desperation

>>61009820
>barrons
didn't they spread lies about 1.4ghz epyc cpus?

>>61009865

There's nothing wrong with the statement about Intel being better at certain loads. But when your only advantage is memory latency and bingbus 2.0 to compensate we are talking being relegated to niche market segments.

What's the cock rate?

I'm reading ~60W per 8C, which is inline with Ryzen, if the cock rate took a dump (expected 2.3ghz or so)

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>>61009986

>>61009986
what?

>>61010007
those turbo clocks are for when less than 12 cores are used

the all core turbo for the 32 core at the top is 2.7GHz

>>61010088
that is still quite a lot for 32c

>>61010316
and the intel processor that will get closer to that kind of speeds is not even released and will cost $12000

>>61010088
So I was about right

>>61000033
delid dis you stupid goy

>>61009820
If you want memory latency you use low core processors, up to 6 cores, not fucking 32 core monsters.
Intel's 28 cores are no fucking better in memory latency than AMD's 32 core ones.