http://www.anandtech.com/show/11550 /the-intel-skylakex-revi

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>>60973231
does every intel shill have a broken caps locks button?

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>>60973231
except in actual worklaod it's only slightly better than $500 CPU

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>>60973321

>>60973231
>8 core vs 8 core
>Intel 8 core is clocked some 10% higher
>is 10% faster

Okay, so nothing new or interesting in skylake.

>>60973231
>A CPU with slightly higher clock speed is slightly faster but costs twice as much
Typical Intlel

>>60973231
>140W
>Costs twice as much
Intel expects better, Goldstein, no shekels for you.

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>faster in synthetics
>takes a dump in actual real world workloads

Based Intel

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>Of course, the performance of the Core i9-7900X is beyond question: it's the fastest single-socket CPU we've ever tested.

http://techreport.com/review/32111/intel-core-i9-7900x-cpu-reviewed-part-one

Now we WAIT™ for AMD's response.

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>XMP doesn't work
>power consumption through the roof
>unstable BIOS
>paid RAID(hahaha)
>costs $999

amazing. where is that guy that said ryzen launch was bad?

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>>60973406
Ready for a repeat of this, clownshow?

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>>60973422
graph looks like this pic

>>60973231
So you mean I can buy three Ryzen chips, beat the shit out of Intel, and still spend less money?

Wow.

>With ten cores you get a 140 Watt TDP processor, and I do not believe for a second that value is correct. With the system at idle with a GeForce GTX 1080 installed / 16 GB memory / SSD and the X299 motherboard I hovered at roughly 75 Watts in IDLE. That's just fine really, but the load values are rather significant. When we stressed the processor 100% run we reach roughly 250 to 300 Watts with this is a 10 core part. So we go from 75 Watts towards 300, that's 225 Watt in my book.


Yikes
Guess we know why Intel recommended liquid cooling

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This is fine

>>60973406
Thread ripper is just around the corner. Prepare your anus for 12 and 16 core slaughter.

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>>60973495
it is!

>>60973406
Isn't the 7900X much more expensive than the 1800x, though?

>>60973501
Rofl

>>60973501
Unless that Skylake 10 core is 50% faster than the Broadwell 10 core, that result has no business existing.

>>60973511
like 400 dollarydoos without even considering the differences in motherboard prices

>>60973533
It's 15% faster at best, actually slower in some memory latency and cache situations.

>>60973536
exactly $500 more expensive

>>60973568
10 core is $800?

>>60973533
see >>60973381

>>60973578
$999

>>60973501
>1 or 2 lightbulbs worth of watts for peak performance

ANSWER ME INTEL, WHY ARE THERE NO TEMPERATURE GRAPHS ANYWHERE?
ARE YOU AFRAID OF COMPARISONS?

The cost is still significantly cheaper. If you unironcially pay that much more for such small performance gains, I feel as though there is something wrong with you.

>MUH VIDEO GAMES
>MUH """"RENDERING""" (Rendering video game footage)

It also goes without saying that AMD has a far better track record with privacy than Intel. AMD PSP is much less botnet-y than iME

https://warosu.org/g/image/2SSn-EzWAl65DTIBqKGVIw

>>60973603
oh, you are right
didn't even notice blinded by those power measurements

even guru3d doesn't have any

>>60973517
>i7-7900x

Really makes you think

>>60973590
>230 watt in a couple of cubic centimeters.
If you don't know why this is retarded then you're beyond help.

>>60973630
You kidding me? >>60973495

>>60973662
that's not Celsius, anon

>>60973231
>7820X barely faster than 1800X despite using much more power
Hahaha, Intel literally have nothing left. Their strategy pretty much is just re-released overclocked Skylake forever.

>>60973662

l2r anon

Free heater, heheheh

Core i9 FX 7900X

>>60973231
I see 1700 > 7800. Cheaper + low power.

>>60973231
N E T B U R S T
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T
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S
T

>>60973231
>Paying double the price for a space heater
I guess ryzen it is

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>>60973677
Wait for Coffeelake
Wait for Cannonlake
Wair for brand new arch

>>60973231
Now take the 1800x score and multiply by 1.495 and 1.99 to estimate the 12-core and 16-core Threadripper scores...

>>60973231
"A Tcore of up to 65°C and a heat spreader temperature of approximately 24°C make for a difference of more than 40°C. That's at 230W. Once the 300W line is crossed, even the Alphacool Eiszeit Chiller 2000 taps out. This isn’t even difficult to do: with a Core i9-7900X running at 4.6 or 4.7 GHz, using the voltages needed to get there, even simple rendering applications trigger those levels. The highest power consumption numbers we saw were just north of 300W, which had the CPU hitting its 100°C thermal limit consistently. An emergency shutdown followed soon after."
>An emergency shutdown followed soon after
>An emergency shutdown followed soon after
>An emergency shutdown followed soon after
>The highest power consumption numbers we saw were just north of 300W,
> CPU hitting its 100°C thermal limit consistently
>all-in-one liquid coolers running out of >headroom as soon as they ran Prime95 without limiting AVX

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At least we'll get 400fps+ in csgo on 4.5ghz

>>60973894
>$1000 compressor cooler couldn't prevent the nuclear meltdown

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>>60973894
Wow Intel what are you doing

damn I thought the FX-9000 series was bad. Those chips ran hot but they didn't throttle themselves on the provided cooling.

>>60973954
>Wow Intel what are you doing
Secretly trying to achieve nuclear fusion it seems

>>60973894
>An emergency shutdown followed soon after
JUST

Hello netburst my old friend
It's time to holocaust Jews again
Because market share is slowly leaking
Amd released ryzen while I was sleeping
And the pipelines that were burned in my brain
Still remains
Within the flames of netburst

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EVEN TOM'S KIKEWARE GAVE UP

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>>60973973
> provided cooling
yea bout that, intel doesn't provide shit

>>60973894
>An emergency shutdown followed soon after

SHITTEL HOUSEFIRES

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>>60973406
surely this time ayemdi will be finished for sure

>>60974008
The "provided cooling" in this case was a external compression cooler. Which is heat makes it even more hilarious. Even with literally a $1000 cooler it still reached housefire temperatures.

>>60973954
>Wow Intel what are you doing
Simple: They decided that the only chance they had of pawning any of these Skymeme-X abortions off on anyone was to clock them beyond all reason to inflate their benchmark results, ignoring that even at stock clocks any sustained workstation workload will cause them to thermally throttle like an Apple laptop on the gamble that most of the reviewers will be too braindead or too shilly to either notice or point out to their viewers/readers that they are being scammed with benchmarks that are totally non-reflective of the sustained performance these CPUs will actually deliver in sustained use.

>>60973231
> 2x$249 CPU perform better than one $999 CPU
T-THANK YOU BASED INTEL?

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ABAFIASWGFASBJIGTABTU

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>>60973590
>just a couple lightbulbs
230w is literally highway street lamp tier

>>60973321
>8 more FPS in handbrake
>only slightly better
You're retarded.

>>60974174
Well, you know, overclocking is overclocking, system may get unstable.

>>60974174
Jesus it's like a portable furnace

>>60973231
why are intel chips so expensive?

>>60973894
DELID

>1000 USD CPU BTFO A 300 USD CPU
>EATING 360W AT 100C
>AMD IS FINESHED

>>60974205
Is it normal for a chip to consume over 350W though?

>>60974256
Well, you know, they got to pull something.

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>>60974083
It seen wallet ripper based on fire lake arch
Even a custom loop cant stand
Need AIO just to break even at stock

>>60974203
>19% faster
>150% more expensive
>106% more power draw

>>60974268
Honestly I think Intel have lost their minds taking this gamble. Every Skymeme-X CPU you manage to pawn off on some gullible idiot using these totally unsustainable stock clock rates is another customer who is going to be joining the class action lawsuit when all these CPUs die in 2 years or less due heat and power damage.

How expensive is a mobo for those HEDT compared to AM4?

>>60974329
$100-$200 more on average.

>>60974329
$200 for low end, but don't expect overclocking on that when these things can spike up to 400W alone.

You can find AM4 overclockable mobos for $90, if you run stock, you can get a $70 one

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>>60974268
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-7900x-skylake-x,5092-11.html

It seen the jizz is really fucking the cpu.
Outside of a perfect, golden chip that requires only 1.2v to reach OC 4.6.-4.7, when you actually buy retail chips, you will thermal throttle very quickly, and with an AIO you are probably stuck around 4.0ghz.
So the great advange, OC, is probably useless.

>>60973231
Putting actual honest consumer reviews aside, how can you trust reviews from review sites after all the jewery Intel has been caught neck deep in?

It's like trusting major gaming review sites to post truthful scores and honest reviews.

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jewripper will beat broadwell 3x reboot

>>60974378
>>60974373

man look at that shit. 70C delta over the thermal jizz. Intel made a product that constantly throttles

>>60974378
You can't at all. well obviously but less obviously is that they are testing intel-provided review samples. IE; Intel literally get to choose the best chips to send to reviewers, since after all, it's the benchmarks that they make which determine how many people buy them.

>>60973231
>47% more power draw
>100% more expensive
>only 33% performance gain, and only in this specific benchmark
>constant overheating
An expensive housefire isn't worth it. Intel is retarded.

>>60974268
kek

>>60974388
the delta is in Kelvin, not Celcius

>>60974508
You are a retard.

>>60974488
Estimated that 16 core TR will hit 3100-3200 in Cinebrunch, at the same price. Shit will be pretty hilarious.

>>60974488
>47%
s/4/7/g

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>>60974511
what did they mean by this?

>>60973409
Is the rumor about using only intel ssds true?

>>60973590
THE POWER OF THREE LIGHTBULBS IN A SHOE

>>60974508
>T(°C) = T(K) - 273.15
>T(°C) = 70K - 273.15
>T(°C) = -193.15
DURR WE ARCTIC CIRCLE NAO

>>60974508
lmao american spotted

>>60974660
Delta is in kelvin, that means change of temperature.

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>>60974268
someone would actually buy one of those IF intel was supplying an H100i-tier AIO with it - without, probably not really.

>remember to watercool, goy

>>60974691
>joke
>you're head

Liquid nitrogen as minimum cooling requirement for 18 cores?

>>60974588
it is not a rumor it's in MB manuals

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>>60974660
wait, what

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GCSWEgZT94

>>60974508
A Delta in either Kelvin or Celsius means the same shit as both increase as same unit count. Only the referencial is different

>>60974534
That C and K are essentially interchangeable when talking about T delta.

>Cannot cool on air
>Cannot overclock on any AIO
>Requires special custom cooling to overcock
>Uses crazy amounts of voltage
>Space heater
>Requires $300 to use RAID
>Requires Optane SSD's to RAID
>Requires special Optane DDR4 but may or may not work in quad channel depending on motherboard (more money for quad than dual).
>Built in botnet chip
>Actually a regression of the 6950X
>A Bargain at $999!

Why would anyone buy this again?

>>60974001
You know intel has really fucked up when even hardcore intel shills bash this series

>>60974203
What are you going to say when a 16 core Threadripper comes out for the same cost and is 50% faster?

Twice as much money for a motherboard and CPU both for only 20% better performance is shit.
Not to mention it's at the expensive of 50% higher power draw and needing to be fucking delided, voiding your warranty.

>>60974782
>essentially interchangeable
They are a 100% interchangable since 1C exactly equals 1K.

>>60974534
It's the difference in temp from the top of the IHS and top of the die.
It represents how well (or poorly) the TIM and IHS perform.

>>60974903
Even my 7700k who is a hot hell goes maximum 30c of delta (dellided)

>>60973231
>10 core 7900x only 1/6 better than 8 core 1800x
sad

>>60974233
Jews and such

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>>60973231
Oh my!

>>60974712
>I'm not actually retarded, I was only pretending

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>intel and amd prices are pretty much switched where i live

No wonder i failed to understand why is suddenly every english website sucking amd dick.

>>60975282
>16 core Ryzen hitting 3.5GHz
Yeah fucking right
EPYC's 16 core tops out at 2.9GHz, and that's with Boost active with a 170W TDP limit

>>60975318
where do u live fren?

>>60975338
>8 memory channels and 128 lanes versus 4 channels and 64 lanes
Uncore is not free.

>>60975338
Epyc has more pcie lanes / memory channels retard

>>60975338
Nominal 1v is 3.3 at the end of the linear scaling. TR isn't gonna have any problems with it's beautifully soldered MCM design and fuckhuge IHS.

>>60975318
so ryzen 1700 costs $1000 instead of $300? amazing

>>60975338
>EPYC's 16 core tops out at 2.9GHz, and that's with Boost active with a 170W TDP limit
You misstyped 32 core. Those are the specs for the 32 core.

>>60974763
>>60974782
When converting between metric system and potato system, using Kelvin for delta reduces the risk of retarded potatoheads doing the conversion incorrectly. In the same way a difference in the "Salt and ice"--"my fat wife's armpit" temperature scale of should be expressed in Rankine.

>>60974887
1C != 1K you fucking retard, only in the context of delta T can you interchange them

>>60975338
It was already benchmarked in blender in 13 seconds, putting it at 3.4-3.5GHz

>>60973231
>140W
fuck me boys.

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>>60975362
AINT FREE

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>>60975387
>7351P
You were saying?
>>60975408
>trusting "leaked" benchmarks
Remember the totally-real-and-not-photoshopped Threadripper Cinebench leaks last month?

>>60975352
Intel labour camp.

>>60973321
do you know how much 8 seconds saves you dumb fuck??

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>>60975434
I never said leak.

And the 32 core has higher clocks than the 16 core, makes sense, right?
Threadripper is around 3.5GHz base, deal with it.

>>60975434
>leaked
Literal live from AMD's computex presentation.

>>60975434
And the 8 core has 2.1GHz? DURRFFUDURR

http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-48790-view--Sixteen-core-AMD-Ryzen-Threadripper-flashes-in-price-aggregators.html

>>60975352
Tel Aviv

>>60975477
>>60975483
https://youtu.be/NeuamYdfU4w?t=16m

>in b4 fake
>in b4 prerecorded
>in b4 they were using a xeon
>in b4 in b4

>>60973231
>anandtech

biggest fattest Intel shills there are, literally tested the AMD CPUs with a regular heatsink against a watercooled 7700k in their review lmao

>>60975517
This is close to 3 months before TR launch, I'll bet they'll edge out a bit more frequency from it when it hits retail, for Ryzen they managed another 200MHz in the last month before launch.

>>60973231
fuck Intel, they are assholes.
i am really thankful to AMD for bringing some movement back in the market.
Currently running an i5 but as soon as it becomes outdated i will change to AMD:

>>60975434
Looking at those clocks, it's beyond obvious all the good silicon went to the 32 cores, the 24 core is mostly fine but it's clear it's higher leakage dies, and the further down you go the worse dies you get, especially for the 8 and 16 core parts, which is obviously gonna be use for I/O, caching and storage servers where memory and lanes are more important than compute performance.

Just how the fuck do you fuck up THAT hard.

captcha: authorised speed

>BUT MUH NIGGAHURTZ!

wow this intel launch is a mess
not giving popular reviewers samples, nobody in europe got one directly from intel, people getting already delidded chips from mobo suppliers, because intel didnt follow through

embarrassing really

>>60976542
>people getting already delidded chips from mobo suppliers, because intel didnt follow through
What?

>>60976555
Somewhat popular youtube reviewer Bitwit only got a review out today because he got an already delidded chip from gigabyte, not intel.

>>60976572
>delidded chips from the OEM
>DELIDDED
>CHIPS
>FROM THE FUCKING OEM
What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

>>60976598
It was a chip their engineers were using for whatever they were doing, so not even a review sample chip, an engineering sample.

>>60976598
are they going for direct-die cooling or are they going to re-lid them?

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>>60976542
>>60976555
>>60976572
>>60976598
>>60976617
>>60976631

>>60973619
>AMD PSP is much less botnet-y than iME
are you retarded?

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>>60973495
>>60973501
>>60973517
idgaf I got solar panels

>>60977222
>Intel requires giant nuclear furnace to operate
Seems legit.

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>>60975338
You embarrassed yourself so much.

>>60975608
Yes, the best silicon goes to the 32 cores, duh.
But it's also because of fucking uncore.
PCIe, infinity fabric, and i/o uses electricity GO FIGURE.

>>60973231
>that shitty price: performance ratio
>TDPs

that was some tasty bait

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>MFW my custom loop with dual 480mm radiators won't be able to properly cool a 7900x

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>suddenly intel fagboys dont care about power consumption or temps
we called it

The 6 and 8 core look much more reasonable, but the 18 core is going to end up sending itself into orbit at this rate
You can tell intel really didn't have much of a plan other than clocking their shit higher to briefly gain the performance crown and just telling people to deal with the heat and power consumption

>>60978755
>was looking at the 7900k for new PC build
>wait for benchmarks and reviews
>it's utter shit

I have minor fagboy status but this is just unacceptable from Intel. I'll see if their other chips do better, otherwise I'll be looking at AMD for my upgrade.

This thing is nuclear housefire tier.

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>>60973894
>An emergency shutdown followed soon after.

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>look up 7900x benches and reviews
>more than half of the sites ignore temps and power consumption

>>60973590
yeah try to squeeze 3 lightbulbs on a tight place
light them up for 10 mins
call the fire brigade

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>>60979541
I really hope this lightbulb analogy catches on, because it's so fucking stupid it defies belief that anyone can actually take it seriously. Then again, we are talking about Intel fanboys here.

i still remember the shit intel was saying 1-2 months before ryzen came

"we expect some very minor decrease in sale"
"we are not worried"

>>60978689
They already said that even an AIO can cool it fine, retard

>>60973231
Why is this shill site allowed to exist.

>>60979617
they were right

>>60978689
Most likely the waterblock is the limiting factor as most of them are designed with lower flow restriction in mind, instead of maximizing Dual 480mm (4x120 each) radiators can handle more than between 1200 and 1800W with fans at 2000RPM, fora deltaT of 10C.

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>>60979176
Really makes one ponder.

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>>60974083
The last decent intlel cpu was my 3770.Bendlake got btfoed by 4790k and delidlake(same shit, moar housefire) is a fucking nuclear reactor. I can do 4.3 ghz on 1.2V super stable and 60C with artic freezer 7. Atleast haswell redeemed itself for me in the 4790k form. Skylake is a complete failure. Housefire and btfoed by 4790k.

Do any of you know if anyone has looked into the long term effects of having a CPU thermally throttle constantly? How long can the 7900X be expected to last under these insane power draws and temperatures even at stock clocks in a constant high-load workstation use case?

>>60980040
At least as long as its warranty but probably much longer, thermal throttling is 100% normal operating condition for a shitload of laptops and even if they die in a few years it's not because the CPU literally malfunctions.

>>60973894
DELID THIS

>>60980070
>thermal throttling is 100% normal operating condition for shit laptops
ftfy

>>60980131
That's completely beside the point and has no relation to the topic at hand.

>>60980192
you're welcome

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>>60973231

>>60975458
5 seconds?

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>>60973231
>mfw threadripper will hit 3000 points on Cinebench for the same cost as the 7900X
>mfw EPYC might push 6000 points in Cinebench

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>>60980260
>mfw 2tb of memory per socket

>>60973231
>140W housefire 6 core beaten by cheaper 65W 1700
>7820x and 6950x barely beating the 1800x while being more expensive and having higher TDPs
If these housefire meme chips cant even properly outperform a 1800x threadripper is definitely going to rape intel hard.

>>60980203
To what?

>>60980260
EPYC won't even have 3GHz base clock.

AMD should create an awesome single thread performance chip now to totally push Intel shit back into the pooper

>>60980399
So ~5.5k cinebench pts.

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>>60980419
Hello, pal! Looking for a high clocking node?
t. IBM Nazi scientist

>>60979731
>They already said that even an AIO can cool it fine, retard

100c with a 280mm AIO
80c when downclocked
that's not "just fine"

>>60979982
Sandy and Ivy were the Intel golden era. It all wen to shit after haslel and Devil's Canyon.
Although I didn't imagine that I'd become a corelet so quickly with my 3770k.

>>60980597
>Intel golden era
Conroe and Sandy. Inferno Bridge was shit.

Intel really fucked themselves up this time.

They sat around on higher core counts while AMD was behind and when AMD suddenly pulled Threadripper out of nowhere they rushed to put something out to compete with it.

What we get is a bunch of high power CPUs that aren't bonded to their heat spreader in any way and can barely maintain their turbo boost under load on water cooling.

I feel sorry for Apple if the chips they are going to put in their iMac Pro are based on Skylake-X, there's no way they will be able to keep them cool under load with their solution.

If I need to upgrade my computer in the next couple of years I'll probably be switching to AMD. Not that I really feel the need to upgrade from my 4770, but all things die eventually.

>>60980604
>Conroe
yeeaaa maybe when you run dual Xeon 771 board. Despite Ivy's flaws, it was still passable. I'd be as good as Sandy if not the jewjizz under the IHS.

>>60980633
It has a very shitty jewjizz. The last decent Intlel CPU was 4790k and the kikes should have ended 4 coarz era with it. Oh well, they never learn. Fuck the kikes.

>>60980616
>if the chips they are going to put in their iMac Pro are based on Skylake-X
It'll be like MBAs all over again with the 1.5GHz i7s
meanwhile skymemeX - just regular binned chips running on ~1.1V with the frequency of 2GHz max, that would work fine in the Mac/iMac Pro

>>60980399

Doesn't matter for the intended market for EPYC chips though. Intel SKUs with similar core-counts compromise clockspeed for more cores within sane power envelopes.

>>60974830

They need something faster than 1800X at content creation/workstation loads right now and cannot wait for Threadripper to come along.

>>60980722
Intel's 28c is what, 2.3 base with 205w TDP and it's only 4S+?
Are the kikes nuts or something?

It's official: Intel created the legendary succesor to PowerPC 970.

>>60980701
I'm really start to thinking seriously that Intel is bribing Apple/Microsoft to make those related cooling designs and have the criticism deflected towards these two companies.

>>60980657
>have 4790K
>kinda looking around for an upgrade with at least 32 PCIe lanes for a (future) high-end 4K@144Hz dual-GPU build
>Haswell-E is already old, no point investing
>Broadlel-E kinda old too, doesn't OC well
>Skylel 4C only, not worth upgrading
>Kaby Lel same shit
>Ryzen looks nice, but lacks sufficient PCIe
>Skylel-X switched to mayonnaise-based cooling and the cheapest CPU with enough lanes is $1000, up from the previous $600 which was still fucking expensive even for a high-end build
Threadripper is my only hope or I'm keeping my 4.7GHz 4790K even longer. Everything disappoints in one way or another.

>>60981027
Just Wait for fucking Zen2-based schlomorippers. High clocks, moar IPC and mature platform are the things you need.

>>60981027
You should be waiting a tear or two anyways for 4k@144hz. The GPU tech will only improve from there.

>>60981027
>I NEED MUH 10000 PEEE CEEEE EYE LANES

dafuq are you doing, putting 10 gpu in it?

>>60980437
i got hard.
AMD sex androids when?

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>>60981076

>>60981097
That's GloFo/IBM special secret sauce viagra for you. It also kills the jew. Powerful stuff, ain't it?

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>>60981097
>implying the sex android would need more than few mhz to analyze your 3inch pecker

>>60981052
I'm afraid Zen 2 won't have enough PCIe lanes either, I mean it's going to be AM4 so I don't see how they can magic another 16 lanes on the thing. I'd have to wait Zen 2 HEDT I guess, but fuck knows when that is coming out.

>>60981068
It depends on what the prices are, especially once the first monitors are released. I'd pay $1000 for a decent 4K 144Hz 27" monitor, but if they end up around $2000 instead I'm definitely not paying that much. As for GPUs I'd be fine if I could get a steady 100+ FPS in CF/SLI and 60FPS in single-GPU when mGPU is not supported. I'm not buying right now anyway, 2 Voltas or Navis should hopefully be capable of that sort of performance considering a 1080Ti is already a fairly decent 4K card in a lot (if not all) games.

>>60981113
>IBM builds a Nuclear Reactor with PowerPC 970
>years later IBM redeems with a Jew Killer process
Best timeline.

>>60981141
That's why I said Zen2-based HEDT, anon.
>>60981147
POWER10 will be a nuclear reactor even on that process. 17 METAL LAYERS DUDE ITS GONNA BE THICC.

>>60973590
>1 or 2 lightbulbs
>the equivalent of a 60W incandecent is like a 5 watt LED
>literally 25 Lighbulbs of power.
what are you doing anon

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>>60980295
>4TB of RAM, 64C/128T, 4+ 8TFLOP GPUs, all on one board

AMD has brought on site datacenters and supercomputers to small businesses.

>>60981219
>2tb if memory per socket
I wonder if every member of 7+1 is creaming right now. Microdicks do it already.

>>60981175
>tfw i'm not filthy rich to buy a Power10 based workstation

>>60981266
Buy a fucking EPYC2 then.

>tfw this is only the 10 cores processor
Fucking hell, the 18c is going to be a fucking flamethrower

>>60981347
>kikes built the oven themselves
Man are they suicidal or something?

>>60981347
>tfw you need industrial HVAC just to boot the PC

>>60981347
I cannot possibly imagine why they're not soldering these things. High TDP is one thing, but these fucking things should at the very least be designed in such a way that they can be cooled effectively. 10-18C with fucking toothpaste, just why?

>gluing two awful existing things that they already have
>charging idiots 2k for it
>muh benchmarks logically are double
>idiots will defend it

>>60981386
They're so jewish that they're jewing themselves.

>>60976598
They didn't want to risk burning their offices while testing the mobos.

>>60981386
Greed. Intel is ruled by beancounters. And they promised to keep their 60% margins. And the dies are bigger tha ever.

>>60981141
Yeah. I would really like at least 40 PCIe lanes. That's 2 x16 and 8 left over.
40% of the pins on AM4 are not connected, so it may be possible.

>>60981219
The prices are reasonable enough that I want a home server with it.

Fuck, Intel is conceding 1S/2S and HEDT market to AMD simply to KEEP THEIR FUCKING MARGINS. It's totally, unreasonably insane.

late 2018/early 2019 would be a great time to upgrade.

>>60981514
Yes, Zen2, Navi, and whatever housefire will be nvidia's answer to Navi.

Anyone know if intels new not-bingbus is in any way similar to infinity fabric? Also is IF based on the old seamicro ip?

>>60980373
[spoiler]TO DIE![/spoiler]

>>60981576
No and no. SKL mesh is modified (by how much though) KNL mesh.

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>>60973231
WAIT
WAIT
So a 140W 10-core fireshouse that costs 2x more than the 95W 8-core 1800X performs 25% faster?
Holy shit, AMD BTFO

GET the core i9 RIGHT NOW don't wait for Threadripper, the $1000 16-core won't perform 65% faster at around that same TDP I promise you good goy!

>>60981613
It's "140w" TDP. Intel straight up lied. It pulls MUCH more power than 6950x.

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>still no AM4-based EPYC
>had to buy shitty quad-core Xeon E3-1270 v6 because of it
Is that so much to ask for, AMD? A simple eight-core ECC-RAM supported motherboard with IPMI support, multi-port Ethernet, mini-SAS controller, and 10GbE baked in? Not everyone needs more than 64GB of RAM in their servers

>>60981483
what's 1s/2s

>>60981659
1 socket and 2 sockets you dummy.

>>60981659
Single and dual socket
>>60981483
How so? Xeon Gold and Silver seem to be adequate enough for that market

>>60981649
NDAs should end tomorrow(or today, depending on your timezone). I bet all the tech sites and stuff have articles ready to publish the second the NDA is lifted

>>60981689
>adequate
That's not an answer to 8 memory channels and 128 lanes. It's only "adequate" when your competition is straight up better in everything.

>>60981702
your posts are adequate because everyone else is straight up better in everything

>>60981727
Not an argument.

>>60981702
>when your competition is straight up better in everything.
I don't know about that, it seems Intel still has the below-125W TDP market covered, but AMD doesn't with the exception of a single 8-core 2S CPU. Intel has a 10-core and 12-core Broadwell-EP that cost under $1000 and hits only 95W TDP.
And again, not all clients need 8 memory channels. I think AMD would do well to make EPYC based off of Threadrippers and Ryzens to cover all the bases.

What a time to be a computer enthusiast. I haven't had this much fun since the late 90s/early 00s

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Linus review had a mistake, they corrected in the forums.

>>60973533
1.3% ipc gain, business as usual.

Just bit more core and more voltage being pumped. Its essentially an overclocked shit.

>>60973231
>Intel
>7800x
>less cores, less performance, more power
>than AMD 1700
>costs $60 more than AMD 1700

You're an idiot.

>>60981635
Even if they said it was 160w TDP, that'd still be a lie.
It was the 6900k that was 140w TDP. The 6950X was really slightly higher but they still said it was the same 140. The 7900X is even higher still.

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>>60981765
>"corrected"
>CPU value only

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>don't know shit about CPUs
>only come into these threads to laugh at delid dis memes

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>>60981772
>costs $60 more than AMD 1700
What?

>>60981765
They mean "gaymen performance per dollar" right?

>>60981439
Why would you need 16 lanes? 16 lanes per GPU? Even when PCI-E 1.0 was still around it was common that GPUs do not need that and are fine even with x4. 3.0 has 8 time bandwidth of 1.0, it is so much that AMD got rid of Crossfire bridge alltogether.

>>60981869
>What do you need 16 lanes for? What are you going to do with 8 lanes anon? Don't ever think you'll get more than 4 lanes out of me without paying more!

>>60981869
You do need all the lanes with 2 graphics cards, because the cards talk to each other over PCIe as well. It's not just CPU-GPU but also GPU-GPU in that case.

>>60973231
>$999

Intel...you piece of shit.
I should stick to Ryzen.

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stop, STOP!

DELET this thread right now

Seriously - who of you has ever spend 1k$ on a CPU?

And that's still one of the 'smaller' CPUs.

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>>60982052
Some people like to spend their hard earned money on fast cars.

I rather spend it on fast CPUs, it's a much cheaper hobby in comparison.

>>60982052
I have, but only because it was for work and I could write it off as a business expense.

>>60982052
Some of us are in jobs where we need to look at these things to figure out how the server parts are gonna shape up, and there's more than a few people on /g/ that have legit uses for workstations.

>tfw not the 1% and am super happy with my 6700

>>60982137
>cheap hobbies are better
lol

Are we Pentium D vs Athlon again?

>>60982052
idk but I bought like $8500 in graphics cards

>>60981097
>>60981113
>>60981124
>your amd "girl" droid is fucking your asshole with her 10 inch futa dick
>has a death grip on your dick, jerking it hard
>just as you're about to cum
>hand comes off
>chastity device goes on
>she whispers into your ear
>"just wait"

Man this is like another shoa but this time the kikes are bringing the ovens themselves.

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>>60982983
Underrated.

>>60973231
>intel beating amd

i sure love paying 210% extra for 5% better performance.

>>60983023
>Only 210%
Plz anon, we all know it's more than that after including the 1000 dollar compressor required to cool the monstrosity.

>>60982983
Kek

>>60973231
Is that cinebench scores or TDP
>corefags BTFO

>>60981613
Not even that. Considering the motherboard costs, the power costs and a power supply to even support this shitshow superseeded by the fact that you can get a 1700 and OC it to 1800x levels under a cheaper motherboard and driven by cheaper power costs this ultimately culminates on how this platform is all sorts of fucked up.

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itt

>>60981816
For the CPU itself I suppose. Not taking into account what kind of motherboard+power supply you need to safely operate the 7800x.

>>60979114
Maybe you can get a 6950X on the cheap from Idiots selling theirs to upgrade.

>>60983229
>idiots selling them to upgrade
Whole 3.5 idiots I guess?

>>60973231
>100$ more expensive
>+45W
>not even 100 points above 1800x

kys shill

>>60983245
> not mentioning it has 6 cores vs 8 on the Ryzen

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>>60973231
Intel Firelake

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I don't want read the thread and all the reviews...The 8c/16t is good?

>>60983944
Yes, but you need to buy a fire extinguisher.

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>>60983212
More like

>looking up thermal compounds on amazon yesterday for a new cooler.
>literally every review/comment/question for the most expensive paste is about DELID DIS
>there is a sense in these reviews that it's totally normal that you should have to delid, that there is no risk, and it's all worth it for muh 5 extra FPS

>>60981852

No, global performance per dollar.

>>60983591
i9 7820x is 8 core.

>>60981027
Threadripper will not have better singlecore perf.

>>60973312
They all delidded their caps lock key

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Ok, now when everybody is in frenzy upgrading, what's the best old processor to look out for cheap?

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>>60981361
Don't you remember when they tried to best IBM and WWII efforts in aiding the final solution?

>>60985147
Wait for cheap haslel Xeons.

>>60981600
KNL mesh it's like a metric shitton of small bing buses

>>60985166
Nigger I'm not retarded.

>>60973231

I confess to being an intel fan, but threadripper is going to rip the lungs out of even the 7900x. It will take 180W to do it, but who really cares, joules/opp will be fine.

A lot will depend on:
#1 How expensive AMD's MCM is going to be.
#2 How skylake xeons with their 6ch memory controller perform.

>>60985047
relevant in any way for 10+ CPUs

>>60985216
threadrupper is not 180w
32c epyc ahs 180w TDP
thraadripper is 120w or 140w

>>60981765
That was nice of them to include the perf per dollar values for the Intel OCs but completely neglect something like an OC'd 1700.

>>60973231
http://techreport.com/review/32111/intel-core-i9-7900x-cpu-reviewed-part-one/8

2-3W higher Task Energy

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7-Zip never lies

>>60981613
since when intel actually went 25% more?

oh i forgot we are now comparing HEDT with consumer platform right right..

>>60985610
Lol The $999 chip has twice the output of Kaby Lake

>>60985155
Yeah, but those Netburst cores would clock way north of 4GHz on science gas and it was 13 years ago. I think it was the Northwood's that'd burn your house down.

>>60985610
wow indeed i guess everyone now is going to unzip and zip 24/7

thank you based intel for providing us such a monster it sure gonna help us unzip faster a jav porn

>>60985634
>I think it was the Northwood's that'd burn your house down.
Northwood was the only decent P4, Prescott was the actual housefire

>>60985643
Well yeah you could bench with a video game but it's inconsistent or doesn't stress the processor.

I benched with 7 zip back in the bulldozer days and the results were self explanatory.

>>60985681
PS a Bulldozer could get the same score as your precious Kaby lake -_-

>>60985681
so?unless you zip and unzip thousands of gb's that is not a workload that can tell you anything

>>60985714

Is archivinmg now added to the list of things that don't count? Said list currently includes-

>cinebench
>blender
>temperature
>power draw
>multi-threaded work
>cores over 4
>1440p and 4k gaming tests
>pcie lanes

>>60985714
I don't get it. It's a benchmark.

The point of a benchmark is to stress the processor. The point of a benchmark is not to make a chip look better than the other. 7 zip is not a paid application, it is an open source benchmark/utility.

>>60985740
Yea, add it to the list.

I constantly archive backups with 7zip but it's not a real world workload. Nobody actually does that.

>>60985740
no please show me someone that has a massive storage and instead of using a nas or whatever else he is going to ZIP his massive amount of gb's
for the rest it wont make any difference

>>60974174
>>60974220
>Jewntel made a tiny portable oven
Was it a freudian slip

>>60985785
I do it. I make periodic copies of certain fileset and upload them backups to my NAS after 7zipping them.
I save like 300MB on that particular set of files.
After 3 copies I'm almost up to 900MB saved.

>>60985825
i dont think you get what i mean with MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF gb's

for us that zip 10-20 maybe even 40gb of stuff to backup this shit wont many any difference what so ever

>>60973231
>$999 CPU is better than $499 CPU
Colour me surprised.

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>yfw you lived long enough to see Trejas and Jayhawk come to market (in spirit)
It's a conflicted non-linear feel.

>>60985859
The 7800X compares a lot more favorably to The 1700, 1600X, Kaby Lake... (pricing)

>>60985881
Did they underclock the 4820K to 2ghz?

remember when the 1800x came out and despite the fact amd was comparing it with 6900k the shills were only comparing it with 7700k?

well..

>$1,000
>overpriced mobos
>housefire temps and power draw
>poor real world use for spec
>regressive performance with vidya

Wew, congrats kiketel

>>60985927
3 sets of hardware keys depending what raid you wanna do

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> $999

>>60985897
The 7score is right on. The 4820k was only quad core, so it would have been behind Kaby Lake.

>>60983017
>immediate reply, 2.5 minutes later
that's not how "underrated" works, you gigantic faggot

so let us recap this
7900
pros
2 MOAR CORES
1 to 5% faster than ryzen
cons
999$
tdp that needs a geothermal plant to keep it running
temperature that needs a house to be a massive heat exchanger
need cern level of helium to cool it down
hardware DLC
platform costs x2 that of ryzen
less pcie lanes than a 486

>>60986061
No, lets recape this properly:

Compared to BroadwellE
- Half the L3
- Four times the L2 per core
- Ring bus is starting to feel a little tight.

>>60986128
it has meshbus anon
also broadwell is old news

>>60986147
BroadwellE is literally the previous generation...

>>60986179
this is /g/ apparently when it suits intel the rebrand is old news

also that last video of linus gave me such a cringy feeling..

>>60986147
>>60986179
Also the point was to expose Intel's L3 and L2 changes.
Intel has (ever since on-die caches) increased L2 aggressively whenever they've felt threatened.

Conroe for example was originally planned for 3M, but was increased to 6M after news of Phenom/K10 emerged and Intel was worried their way out of the Netburst hole was going to have fresh blooded competition (which at the time was expected to perform well)

This is good news, Intel is actually thinking and competing again.
I'll probably still buy AMD this time around, simply to help fund them (Intel isn't running out of money any time soon) to keep this competitive spirit alive, but I'm by no means an AMDfag and I'm really happy to see Intel in such a good way.

>>60986241
yeah the problem is this time around simply it didnt work at all

in order for them to be competitive they just created a whole set of arsoning level cpu's for what it seems 1 to 5% more perf and without an affordable way to cool them down or even overclock them
they basicly made their chip as worst as they could just so that they can lock the users to it

>>60982832
KEK

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>>60973590
Remember when we used to laugh at this?

>>60973231
>the ten core chips beat the 8 core chips
>the brand new 8 core barely beats ryzen at literally double the price

wow GG intel u really did it this time I tell you.

>>60974203
of course it's going to go faster, it has 2 more cores, uses a higher IPC architecture, runs at higher clocks, and features some fancy new instruction set extensions. It's only 17% faster despite all of those inherent improvements though.