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holy shit finally a somewhat acceptable OP

arigato gozaimasu

Just bought a T450s
Did I do good ?

(repost from last thread)

Has anyone here with a T4x ever gotten wifi working under Windows 2000? I already installed the drivers for the wifi but I don't see any program to actually let me select a network, which for Windows 2000 came with your wifi card drivers since Windows didn't allow you to natively till XP.

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>>60965742

so lenovo removed every driver for the x200tablet from their official page, and I just can't seem to find them anywhere now

anyone know a good place for the most up to date drivers (looking especially for the win7x64 one)?

please help

>>60965792
how much? generally speaking its a breddy nice notebook desu

how are the screens on thinkpads?
i need something with decent adobe rgb coverage.

>>60965989
Many Thinkpads have bad sRGB colors...you're gonna have to look at the P5x/P7x screens for anything acceptable...

>>60965989
absolute trash on most of them, mainly the older ones and its almost impossible to upgrade them to an IPS or full HD panel desu

however, Alienware M14x panels (the 14" 1600x900 ones) are supposed to be almost IPS like so if you are getting a T420 or T430, consider this desu

about other thinkpads: i have no fucking clue, soumimasen

I know the x220/x230 IPS panels have better viewing angels, but do they still give you eye strain after a few minutes like the tn?

>>60965742
>(≤**30, with keyboard swap)
>X60 for the Real Richard Stallman Experience™

This is getting fucking ridiculous. The model/mod guide already covers all this shit.

>>60965919
358,34 USD
I don't have WWAN modem
1600x900
i5 5300u
8gb ram
256 ssd

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>>60965856
Try searching with the hardware IDs of the devices you need drivers for

>>60966038
hm, this isnt really that nice of a buy. specs arent that good.

>>60965989
W520 1080p does 95% sRGB. It's more or less the best screen you can get in a laptop for less than $500.

Got my T420s but it only gets about 2 hours of battery on Win 10...despite only ~165 cycles on the battery.

Should I

>acquire new main battery
>acquire ultrabay battery (I had wanted to use that to expand ssd space)
>both
>acquire X220t (I had wanted to do this anyways)
>none of the above... Resign myself to shit battery life and learn to love the outlet

Also.... Are there any mobile expansion battery solutions that can output into the power adapter or directly to the ac plug? I just got my dad a fuck huge 28000 mah charger for his mobile devices for travel... Do they make those that will plug right into an ac adapter?

Thanks!

>>60966008
>>60966029
>>60966071
ta

>>60966064
Hmm okay thank you

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Does anyone else thing the /tpg/ threads are the best that /g/ has to offer?

>>60966083
get some chink battery, should be good for like 9 months to a year
does the t420s have a mSATA slot? if yes, dont get a ultrabay hdd adapter. if no, get that battery if you want. if you are a hipster, keep the optical drive.
if you can, get the X220 but not tablet, tablet versions arent really all that great unless you are some artsy traveller imo

>>60966128
Yes it has msata... The main ssd is 128 gb and I will free up 15 of that when I get around to nuking the Lenovo recovery partition that I've realized I don't need (would recover to windows 7 anyways and I've drank the Win 10 coolaid).

How much capacity can I get with msata? I really don't have much use for the DVD... Hardware diagnostics says the disc drive works but I haven't tested it yet.

>>60966124
kinda, they're some of the greatest ones but I personally think /cyb/ /sec/ or generally security and privacy threads are the most interesting

programming threads and battlestations/guts are breddy nice too desu

>>60966128
My thought was the the x220 tablet version would work quite nicely with windows 10. Also I am doing some professional study program online and the course ware is delivered via web so I could just fold it up and be all comfy while studying in all kinds of places (with Bluetooth headphones). Said courseware sucks at being delivered on mobile browsers otherwise I'd just use my Nexus 7 tablet (which is great btw).

>>60966147
the max currently is 1tb but they are pretty expensive, here in germany they cost around 400€ while a 250gb samsung evo 850 is just 100€.

>>60965856
Why would they do this? Should I fear for my T510 or T420s anytime soon?

>>60966177
the X-series tablets are very fat compared to real tablets, it's not as comfy as you imagine it

>>60966182
Neat. Thanks! I'll definitely do that. I haven't opened the thing up... How would something like that be mounted or secured in the frame?

Also... Assuming I do the msata... What should I do with the disc bay? I'd like to do something productive with it... I would probably use a disc once every year and a half.

Maybe just double down and buy a chink main battery and ultrabay battery? If I buy fulfilled on Amazon... If and when they do fail within a year I'll just complain to Amazon and they will reimburse me somehow.

>>60966219
nice strategy. the drive isnt really needed if you only use one in a millenium. get a cheap external drive and use that whenever you need it.

look up T420s dissassembly. its actually directly on the bottom with one of the ramsticks. usually you'd find some other card in there like one for SIMcards but they're shit anyways. just remove it and mSATA SSDs are hold down by a single screw, even though it has two holes, it isnt gonna jump out or anything, it'll just stay in place, dont worry.

>>60966219
found the video
https://youtu.be/zNI_DuNDT3g

>>60966299
Thanks!

Anyone knows some software/hardware hack to prevent eye fatigue from staring at a TN screen for long? Does IPS displays have this problem too? What's the screen type(TN, ips, etc) that damages the eyes the least?

>>60966790
In my experience screen type doesnt matter for eye strain. Use a resolution you can read comfortably and just keep the brightness at a reasonable level.
F.lux is nice software for helping with color temps at night.
Really just remember to blink often, drink lots of water, and sleep well.... you know human stuff.

>>60966790
never had eye fatigue from a low quality screen

only too bright/too dark or sitting too far away

>>60966190

I have no idea, the worst thing is trying the graphics drivers. the only one compatible I've found from the intel page is glitchy as hell

>>60966048
and where would I search on it on google?

What are the noticeable differences between a 2nd gen i7 compared to a 3rd gen i7?

>>60967194
none whatsoever
not worth it
maybe the iGPU (HD4000) but really this isnt too much of a difference

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>>60965742
T440S are starting to appear on eBay UK for under 400 GBP. Is it good plan to cop one and just replace the touchpad with one for the T450? Anything I should watch out for?

Maximum budget is £450, really don't want to spend more than this. Broke student here.

>>60965742
My x220's battery drains really quickly in sleep mode(it normally lasts for 6-7 hours of usage, drains in about a day in sleep). What do?

>>60967749
get an ssd and don't use sleep mode

>>60967602
Buy either a t420s or a t430, depending on your keyboard preferences, and be a happy person. Not having full hd screen as option sucks tho

>>60967288
Cool, so i'll go with the w520 over the w530 now thanks

>>60967848
FHD IPS is probably 70% of the reason why I'm leaning towards the T440S over something like a T430/T420

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>they dont put panties on their thinkpads

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>look up ThinkPad Retro news
>rgbthink com,org,us,net etc have all been registered
>Lenovo finalizes deal with 4:3 screen manufacturer in Singapore
>mfw its finally happening

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>>60968108
Inb4 we get an X1 Carbon with a fucking neon logo

https://strawpoll.com/r28r776

Why do I keen hearing that the tablet variant (x220t) of the x220 isn't that great?

It seems very novel to me. What am I giving up if I get the tablet version versus a standard x220.

Shoukd I get i7 in the x220, or is there any benefit (cost, battery life??) to going with an i5?

>>60967841
I do have an SSD.

>>60968544
then why bother with sleep mode?

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>>60965742
:D:D:D!!!!

from 2gb + 2gb to 4gb + 0gb to now 4gb + 4gb!

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>>60968667
>06/18/17(Sun)23:14:46 No.60968667

it woarks:D::DD:

>>60968507
Fujitsu Lifebook Ts are superior tablet PCs. Basically the same hardware as in the X220T but less rugged.
iirc Fujitsu holds a patent on a bidirectional hinge for these, which is why the Thinkpad tablet screens can only turn one way.

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>>60968507
everytime I post I say the exact same thing, lurk more

the tablets are
>bigger
>fatter
>smaller batteries (only offered up to 6-cell, non-tablets could get 9-cell)
>IPS displays suffer from image retention/screen burn in
>screen hinge is sturdy but will wobble in a bumpy environment
>not compatible with the mini docks
>rubber screen bumper holders on the sides of the keyboard are prone to snapping off

>>60968697
But I like Thinkpads for the meme and nostalgia factor... and the ruggedness.

>>60967848
Why would he do that? he obviously wants a thin laptop with a good display. The T440s would work for him since he doesn't seem to need a quad core processor.

Does anyone know if the mini displayport on the T430 supports audio from minidp to hdmi

>>60968947
it should

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>>60965742
Daily reminder to make use of that expresscard plug, desu.

>>60965742
Where do I get a good 9 cell battery for the x220? What's a good price for one? I don't mind Chinese knockoffs (can't knockoff a Chinese product) as long as it works

>>60969720
What is this called and where can I get one?

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>>60968299
>>60968108
Holy shit, this might be the real (as-it-gets) deal.

I have been thinking a while, should I go and upgrade my T61 to the absolute max? Oh boy, I'll carrying this bad boy to the year 2025 with no problem at all and the reason why, is that this machines has a Smartcard reader, meaning I can authenticate myself and it would require quite a lot work to get inside this machine (I hope so at least). Honestly speaking, I prefer T60s build quality, T61 feels to plastic.
> 14.1" 1440x900 (WXGA+) widescreen
>8GB Ram (DDR2, and it is very expensive compared to DDR3)
>Quadcore CPU (I would be required to flash, to get 1066MHz FSB CPU working. T500 heatsinks is recommended.)
Will keep you senpaitachi updated when I decide to upgrade this.

Just bought a t400 for $50. Came with a p8600 in it. Is it worth the 10-15 bucks to upgrade the cpu to a p9500?

I just got a message on my laptop saying "fan error" today. What do?

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>>60970099
If you got t420 or t430 this dummy plug is already there.
x220 and x230 doesn't have one, but you can steal 54mm plug from other computer and use it.

G41 sold... yey, cahce'd video will be up.

>>60965856
become a Thinkpad Forums member and you'll get the access to the driver database when approved. :)

>>60966124
I like the watch threads and rage threads.

>>60966790
I had eye strain on the 4K panel from the X1C3.
I don't think I get much strain from the ~QXGA+ Pixel, however glare from a glossy screen can be a factor.

>>60968947
It should be able to.
DP is just like HDMI

>>60969720
Where is this fucker at.
No dummy plug
Shit, can I get one that is a knife?>>60970162

>>60970162
Try it out for a week and see if you can't deal with it.
I think RAM is the most limiting factor. 8GB that fucker

>>60970212
Dust off the fan. :)
The model may help too.

>>60970790
im the person with the fan error, the model is x220

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What's the recommend HP business laptops models?

>>60970973
what screen do you prefer?

>>60970983
I plan to get 12" and 14"-15.6"

>>60971004
>11,6"
2170p with i7
>12,5"
2570p + quad core cpu
>12,5" slim tablet
2760p
>14"-15,6"
I don't know DESU
>17"
8770w

>>60971059
Thanks.

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Is my 2570p cute enough to join this thread?

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Should I get X220 for 170$ or go for X230 for 185$?
Core i5, 4GB of RAM, 250 GB HDD.

Can you fucking faggots stop fetishizing laptops?
Computers are tools for a job you fucking faggots sound like you're picking out a goddamn wedding ring.

>>60971098
Can you fucking faggots stop fetishizing cars?
Cars are tools for a job you fucking faggots sound like you're picking out a goddamn wedding ring.

>>60971109
Yes, this too.
>mfw when he thinks I enjoy faggot automobiles and wanna be pretend racers or midlife crisis faggots who want a red convertible to attract young females.

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>>60971090

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>>60971109
>this is that one faggot that buys lamborghini asus monstrosities

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>>60971089
plus, as always, butthurt inducing specs

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>>60971209
and upgraded wifi card

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>>60971217
>ayy

>>60971098
picking out a wedding ring is infinitely less consequential than buying a laptop

>>60971248
>retarded hardware purchase that becomes obsolete in 2 years is less consequential than choosing the lock to which the pussy you choose for the rest of your life, or otherwise continue paying half your earnings to for the rest of your life.

Cool story brah. I just donate my old laptops to the poor.

>>60971268
>that becomes obsolete in 2 years
???
>choosing the lock to which the pussy you choose for the rest of your life
???????????????????????????????????????
Why would you ever want to stick to one pussy for the rest of your life?

>>60971089
I will never understand how that keyboard style caught on. It drives me insane.

>>60971279
laptops become obsolete, being in denial doesn't change that fact.

>Why would you ever want to stick to one pussy for the rest of your life
Tax reasons.

>>60971282
Easer to clean, more "expensive" look.

>>60971268
>the lock to which the pussy you choose for the rest of your life
>literally a useless piece of metal
sheesh, and we're supposedly the ones fetishing

>>60971288
Just evade retard

coming from 15.4 inch laptop, would i regret X220? They're both at same resolution though.

>>60971288
>laptops become obsolete
When will W520/T420/X220 be obsolete?

>>60971302
>useless piece of metal
Sounds like the ultimate fate of any piece of consumer electronic you purchase.

Engagment rings will still keep their value hundreds of years after purchase.

>>60971282
>It drives me insane.
Felt the same for 2-3 days after switching from old t430 with classic keyboard. Now I just don't give a fuck.
But most of the time I use god tier external keyboard anyway, since this laptop is docked 90% of time.

>>60971310
>just evade
Enjoy your boipussy being ravaged by rakeem.

>>60971268
I've had the same laptop for seven years. no pussy in the world stays good that long.

>>60971319
>>60971312

see

>>60971279

>>60971288
>Tax reasons.
???????????
Are you poor?
Women also become obsolete.

>>60971324
meant

>>60971288

>>60971325
>are you poor
No, this is why you get married.

>women become obsolete
Much later than laptops become unusable trash.

>>60971332
>Much later than laptops
that depends on the women, senpai
>than laptops become unusable trash.
that also depends on the laptop.
2570p is how old? 5,5 years now?
And it's still as fast as xeon powered p50: >>60971242

>>60971397
>that depends on the women
You can select a women that doesn't expire as quickly.
But laptops will always die between 2-5 years and it's later years you're just basically lying to yourself and pretending the performance is still 'acceptable'.

>>60971397
>>60971332
>comparing marriage with (((((woman))))) to a laptop hobby
I don't even have a reaction picture for that.

>>60971424
>laptop hobby
Literally worse than collecting stamps you're collecting office equipment.

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>>60971414
>But laptops will always die between 2-5 years
mine is 5,5years and still has no visible wear.
>pretending the performance is still 'acceptable'.
numbers don't lie. If it wouldn't be acceptable I'd get some new thinkpad instead.
>You can select a women
>select
>a woman

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>>60971430
>office equipment.
???????????????????????????????

Is the X270 as comfy as the X220? I can choose a new laptop for work and I want something light. Alternative could be a MacBook with Linux.

>>60971439
>>60971446
>All in denial
>Office equipment in space isn't office equipment

>>60971414
what. My G530 3000 is still going strong for 8 years, maybe you should stop using exploding macbooks

>>60971446
Yes they also have freeze dried food in space.

Enjoy your superior culinary experience.

>>60971482
>Faggots in denial mk 13

>>60971446
Hey, a dog and monkey went to space too. You should get a dog and monkey.

>>60971489
so you claim my laptop is actually dead and i haven't realized it?

>>60971505
>answering to a trolling retard

>>60971505
Nah, it still 'works for you' because your post purchase rationalization will never allow you to admit it's time to let go.

>>60971520
>will never allow you to admit it's time to let go.
Why would anyone ever get another product if the old one still serves it's purpose?
murifat spotted. Go upgrade your iphone 7s to 8, then 8 to 8s, then 8s to 9... like a good goy you are.
Pleb. Normal person has other priorities.

>>60971539
It's okay anon, keep thinking that consumer electronics are a good investment. I don't use any apple products because I think retarded cosumerism of literal tools are stupid. Stop being jewed by integrated circuitry marketed as luxury products instead of office equipment.

>>60971505
Wow your fax machine still works after 15 years?

Amazing, what a great purchase, better show the internet.

>>60971558
>consumer electronics
thinkpads and elitebooks are not consumer electronics.
And this thread is all about buying used stuff, so your point is once again invalid.

>>60971585
>thinkpads and elitebooks are not consumer electronics
Are they sold to the consumer?
>being this butthurt just because not everybody enjoys collecting office equipment

>>60971595
>being this butthurt just because not everybody enjoys collecting office equipment
Is having 1 (ONE) laptop used as only PC in the house considered "collecting office equipment" now?
Man, you're fucking retarded.

>>60971616
Are you going to brag about your fridge and washing machine next?

>>60968299
I can't wait for 1024x768 on modern hardware.
It would be retro, the IPS UXGA and SXGA+ models were quite uncommon.

>>60971620
Do you have problems with reading or answering to questions?

>>60971626
Don't forget to go to the landfill and collect all those discarded dell boxes too for that amazing retro cubicle feel.

>>60971645
>stop having fun!!!!!

>>60971644
Do you have problems with comprehension? I'm not saying you're going to be on an episode of hoarders. I'm just saying stop pretending that your mass consumer electronic purchase is novel.

>>60971653
>point out what you're doing is retarded
>but it's fun!
I'm not saying you should stop, It's entertaining to watch people collecting garbage like it's the tits.

>>60971659
>I'm just saying stop pretending that your mass consumer electronic purchase is novel.
Where am I pretending anything??????????

>>60971668
>what you're doing is retarded
whoa whoa dude, this is like... your opinion
you know what happens to your opinions, right?

>>60971671
Tell me more about your 1970's era answering machine anon.

>>60971687
I don't own such a thing.

>>60971684
>It's just my opinion
Okay, continue your office equipment acquisition. I will continue laughing at you retards.

>>60971692
Well I just assumed, since you like hoarding old junk.

>>60971694
Ok, thanks for giving me permission. Now do me a favor and enable your tripcode, so I can filter your toxic shitposting.
>>60971702
Well I'm assuming you're mentally retarded, so this is the end of our conversation. Bye loser XD

>>60971717
>toxic shitposting

Are you from tumblr? You can go back there to admire your excellent collection of xerox machines and rolodexes.

>>60971717
>bye loser
Ok redditor, thanks for your visit.

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>>60971730
>Are you from tumblr?
No, I'm from 9gag
Here, meet my waifu

What should I be paying for a t420/430 in Australia? And is it worth going for a 420 over a 430 just for a higher resolution screen?

>>60971756
ok m8, collecting anime figurines is just about level with collecting office equipment on the hierarchy.

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>>60971414
>But laptops will always die between 2-5 years
>tfw I have perfectly functioning 15-years-old laptop
>pretending the performance is still 'acceptable'.
Depends what you need. Obviously, as years go by the CPU will be "slow" by our tainted standards.

>>60971777
At least our small community has a mutual hobby, unlike you and your autism.
Although I'm pretty sure there are internet forums for autistic kids too. Go find one.

>>60971806
Yes, and I will continue to mock your office equipment collections because it's laughable.

>>60971801
>I have a perfectly functioning 15 years old laptop
And I have a 15 year old TV and Fridge that works fine too. Lets take pictures of them and post them on the internet.

>>60965989
Absolutely shit
Get something like a elitebook 8770w with the dreamcolor display. That thing is just goat

>>60967194
>>60967288
The igpu on the 3rd Gen btfos the on the second gen hands down
>>60967922
But if you're already getting a thinkpad with a dgpu it really doesn't matter that much

>>60971089
thats a really cute 2570p desu

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>>60971268
>becomes obsolete in 2 years

>>60972665
so 2nd gen are obsolete?
Also 4th gen and up lenovo started to use low voltage CPUs.

>>60972680
>so 2nd gen are obsolete
they come in around at 3566 which means theyre as good as broadwell which isnt obsolete either
>4th gen and up lenovo started to use low voltage CPUs
so did a lot of OEMS which is my point
"""""""""""""""""""""""""new""""""""""""""""""""""""" hardware cant even outpace ivy bridge on mobile while offering minimal efficiency increases. At the end of the day you really cant out class a x220/x230/t420/t430 plus a few batteries in your bag

>>60972665
This is why I own a T430 as well as an X240 when I really just need a small laptop with minimal power.

>>60968667
>>60968680
lol nice

>>60968667
>>60968680

You can install upto 16GB DDR3 you know.

>>60972665
Why are you comparing 35W CPU with 15W?

>>60972900
Why are you retarded?

>>60972900
because Lenovo didn't stick 35W CPU's in their new machines

>>60972900
because thats what youre getting in your """"new"""" laptop.

>>60972900
You don't understand how TDP works.
ULV trash is in reality 25W, because jewtel decided one day to not count iGPU TDP into the CPU TDP.
So old 35W CPUs are in fact 25W CPU + 10W iGPU
New 25W CPUs are 15W + 10W
and this 10W decrease is only because they lowered base clocks and left turbo clocks untouched. So in turbo it's still 35W.

You stupid goy.

>>60968101
m-my gf told me off for putting her pantsu on my w500
(UK size 8 fits a w500 perfectly)

>>60968646
not him but I like to leave my programs running. I would hibernate but
>this kills the ssd

>>60972997
YOU don't understand how TDP works you absolute retard

iGPU has nothing to do with the fact that both machines can go 10W past their rates TDP by default.

Yes, the 35W goes to 45W and the 15W goes to 25W. The listed rating is an average and the manufacturer themselves (not the chip maker) can choose to cap it.

>>60972997
This post is full of misinformed bullshit.

>>60971242
>CPU power is the only factor
cuck

>>60973069
Decreased base clocks of CPU and iGPU is a fact.
You can clearly see how i5-3320m is 2.60GHz while i5-4200U is decreased to 1.60GHz. i5-5200U is 2.2, i5-6200u is 2.3GHz. Still at least 500MHz less in turbo than i5-3320m.
base iGPU clock in i5-3320m is 650MHz and 1250MHz turbo, i5-4200u is 200MHz and 1GHz turbo.
So it's pretty clear jewtel is lying.
>the 35W goes to 45W
it doesn't. Checked myself in case of i7-3520m - when putting 100% load on CPU alone "power" section in HWmon shows 25W, when adding full load via GPU-z it's 25W+10W. Of course turbo enabled.
Check your facts, niggers.

>>60973053
an ssd made in last 3 years can handle that much abuse when youre putting it down overnight. personally I use hibernate to swap batteries and leave my shit overnight

>>60973091
who are you quoting?

>>60973091
>egpus arent a thing

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>>60973091
average HD4000 score is 5000. In my case 7000 is achievable only because of 2133MT/s RAM and 1.30GHz iGPU.

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>>60973200
Average M2000M (highest p50 dgpu option) score is 46k.
So jewtel doesn't really increase performance of mobile cpus anymore. Well, then added ECC support to this xeon, but who gives a fuck to be honest?

Can anyone comment on a T60's performance?
Web browsing, video, 720-1080p movies, 2hu games will work well enough?
Does it needs a more lightweight distro or can normally function even on WinXP?

>>60973290
>720-1080p
Doubt it.
>Web browsing
Maybe as long as you use simple sites.
>2hu games
Most likely, might over heat a little.

>>60973238
https://imgur.com/a/V5ffB
I'd buy p50 if the CPU wouldn't be so slow.

>>60973290
>Web browsing
Its okay I guess, just monitor dat ram tho. (max. 3GB or 4GB)
>video 720-1080p
If I may use my experience on T61 to indicate anything, well yes you can watch your favorite animus, but youtube videos tend to choke a bit. Is recommended to use youtube-dl instead with MPV or smplayer. 1080p 60fps on jewtube are unheard of, does not run them smoothly.
>2hu games
I think those will be fine.
> Does it needs a more lightweight distro or can normally function even on WinXP?
Xp should be fine but GNU/Linux is always recommended for freedom.

ps. Are you patient? I have T60, so I can test those for you. It will probably take me the rest of this day, so you should back tomorrow asking for that same question, if you want to sure. Do you have a urgent deal going up or other urgent things?

>bought a T410
>battery lasts 4 hours tops on minimal linux install

what do?

>>60973425
Do the same as Loius did. Buy a powerbank that can output 20v.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=282500199763&globalID=EBAY-AU

Is this a decent price? It's not FHD but those seem hard to find here in AUS

>>60973413
It's ok for today, I can wait. Will be much thankful to you for doing these tests.

>>60973425
Extended battery?

>>60971457
Do the have one but considered one. Keyboard isn't fantastic compared to the classic style keyboard but still one of the best out there.
1080p screen is a must

>>60973550
Okay, just so you know, I will be using Lubuntu 17.04 because i like it. Do you have suggestion for what distros should I be using?
I think I can get by with TinyXP when it comes windows programs. Is this okay?

>>60973646
Whatewer you consired more effective/comfortable for this model.

>>60973721
Alrighty, time to get down for some würk.
>tfw I just remebered that my T60 has SVP and I have to install all this stuff via another machine
Fuck me, but I'll be still able to do it.

Is it possible to have 2 storage units on my lenovo yoga 14?

>x220, 9cell 95wh battery, i5 2520m, 8gb ram 240gb ssd
can idle in power saving mode with screen on at min brightness for almost 10 hours, can watch a 2h movie and only lose 25% battery

>t440p, 6cell 57wh battery, i5 4300m, 8gb ram, no dGPU, 500gb hdd
can idle for 3hours at best in power saving mode, dies in 2 hours watching movie

I thought fagwell was supposed to be good at low power consumption at idle? ive enabled power saving features and formatted and reinstalled win7, win 8.1 and win 10 all with same result. battery only has 7 cycles and reports healthy

Well, this is kinda related.

I have an X220 right here I'm going to probably sell in a few days with an SSD and a brand new keyboard.

Anyways, when I got this, even though it was refurbished the condition was nearly flawless. It included this W7 pro for refurb PCs key and when I turned on the thing it had a setup for it with everything installed already automagically.

Is there a chance I might get a similar image somewhere on the nets or make one myself? I'd really like if whoever bought this would just have the same.

>>60974004

go to lenovo site and get recovery cd sent out to your place. probably only cost 10bucks or something

>>60973974
try replacing the 6 cell with a 9 cell and install an ssd

>>60973892
>2 storage units

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Yes, you little tech illiterate fag. Enjoy your cancer as what you call "Lenovo """""Thinkpad"""""" yoga 14"

>>60974032
Thanks. I found out that it was originally just done through sysprep. I will learn how to do this thing since it seems useful.

>>60974585
not a thinkpad

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>>60974651
Outer shell says it is a thinkpad. But without any of the respected thinkpad features except nipple.

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>>60974780
>without any of the respected thinkpad features except nipple.
exactly
its not what the outside says its what the inside does

>>60973425
With TLP installed?

I'm excited... got a x220 in the mail for $49 shipped... no hdd, no ac adapter and no battery.. but comes with i5 (2540) 2.6ghz, 4gz and looks like the display is an IPS. Good deal or no?

>All these anons falling for weak b8s
Gee, I thought you knew when a bait was obvious.

>>60971311
Not really, and 1336x768 looks far better in a 12" screen.

>>60975923
Good deal, go for one of those famous Greencell batteries; many people say they're almost as good as the OEM ones.

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>>60971089
I'm thinking of getting i7 11,6" 2170p as an addition to my current 2570p. What do you think, /tpg/? Anyone had experience with this model?
x120e looks like trash compared to 2170p, and there are no other thinkpads that are this small.

>>60976114

Yeah that's what i am thinking of getting for the battery, ac adapter i have a few laying around and hdd, might find a cheap ssd on sale soon.

>>60976114
>many people say they're almost as good as the OEM ones.
this is only valid for Greencell PRO batteries. Standard ones are same chink trash pajeets are selling on aliexpress

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>>60976231
it even has a docking port...

>>60976231
Is it the one on the right? It looks really S M O L

>>60976433
left one. Right one is some consumer 10" netbook trash

>>60976455
Looks nice and comfy, what are the specs?

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>>60976539
i7-3667U (close to i7-3520m in performance), up to 16GB 2133MT/s RAM, 2,5" drive + mSATA or WWAN module, 1366x768 LED screen (similar to tn 2570p), backlit keyboard. 2x USB 3.0 ports, 1xDisplayPort, non-whitelisted wifi slot...

>>60968108
>>60968299
>>rgbthink com,org,us,net etc have all been registered
>countdown timer over a classic trackpoint
>1990s green
>'ThinkClassic' in the HTML

What did they mean by this?

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>>60976642
God damnit I already love this laptop. My 2570p is already locked with key in the docking station as it has a GOAT CPU and it works as a server, so this 2170p will be my everyday-carry laptop.

>>60976642
Too bad dell doesn't have similar machine because they have three buttons to go with the nipple

>>60976679
they do. It's based on core2duo ulv cpu tho.

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>>60976708
well actually the c2d latitude doesn't even have a trackpoint. Kek
but they do have this 12" rugged subnotebook.

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Anyone here have thoughts on T460P? Never really see it discussed

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>A 3rd gen ULV CPU is better than a higher frequency 5th gen ULV CPU

>>60976809
>passmark
bad goy!

>>60976678
Mah nigga, I have been planning to make my NC4010 (12.1") as my everyday carry laptop with 512mb ram and 80gb hdd. No normie can infect it viruses because it does not have any usb slots.
>>60976788
Too soon for /tpg/. We will be seeing these machines within 5 years when they become affordable.

So I just got this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/302347741269?_trksid=p2471758.m4704
Good deal or bad deal?

>>60976906
reasonable price, especially for the 32GB config.

Hey, if i install a i7QM on my t420, can i still use it for browsing on the battery? Or even on idle it drains a lot more than the i5 2540m?

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>>60970371
>you can steal
I not a nigger u faget

>>60971090
Anyone?

>>60977369

that's one tasty thinkpad!

>>60977369
Reported for Offtopic

>>60977369
x230

usb 3.0, much better gpu

>>60970159
>widescreen

for what purpose

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>>60965742
< this happened today.
what do I do now?!?! PLS HELP!!!! I CANT HANDLE THAT MESS ;_;

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>>60977369
>this perfect body

>>60977369
>perfect thinkpad aesthetics
I'd play with her track point all day.

>>60977508
8:5 brah, not like I don't own T60 with 4:3.

>>60977577
just buy a new sticker, they're like a dollar or two

>>60977455
What about battery life?
High temps? CPU throttling?
And is the chicklet keyboard really as bad as /g/ make it?

>>60977776
there's nothing wrong with the keyboard, it's just a layout preference

Flashed a custom bios on my X220 a while back

Are there any issues with flashing back the official bios?

>>60968667
nice

>>60966008
>p50/p70
WQHD screens on T4[5-7]0s are also good.

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>>60978489
>ssd on ultrabay
You're doing it wrong.
The Ultrabay SATA port is 2nd gen only (3Gbps). To max out the SSD bandwidth you must use the HDD bay and put the existing drive in the ultrabay slot.
You need this, it supports 9.5 and 7mm drives. You may need a caddy and rubber rails to keep the drive in place.

>>60978562
I know about the caddy, yes. My main drive is already SSD, I just need an extra 500 GB, that's why I want the second drive, so then it makes no sense to switch them I guess, right?

So any 9.5mm or 7mm is good for the caddy?

Hey, i saw in a forum some guy who managed to install a 2960XM on his t420.

Has anyone around here accomplished this too? Im quite tempted desu.

>>60977071
Adding to this, using Linux, can i limit the power my CPU uses & all? I could leave windowns for gayming at home and all, and capping my system using Linux so i could still have some mobile use.

Please guys, help here.

>>60977655
If you own a T60, why not Frankenpad it? It's top Comfypad.

Hello /g
I need your help, my tkp drink water. And when startup i have 3 short beeps in loop.
What this mean ?

>>60979095
I don't see the point.
T60 is for libreboot (currently SVP'd)
T61 is for perfomance (quadcore CPU and 8gb ram)

Anyone ever had heating issues with the x201? I got a refurb about two years ago and it was fine for a while but it gets crazy hot really quickly, especially on Windows it doesn't take long for it to hit 90°C. Linux is somewhat better.

>>60968680
>>60972880
>>60978074
samefag
how pathetic you must be to give yourself (You)s?
>>60978562
>3Gbps ultrabay
which laptop?
I don't know about any thinkpad that has such limitation. Only mSATA is limited to 3Gbps speeds.

>>60979278
are you running cpu intensive programs

>>60979396
Hardly, just watching Youtube video starts to strain it.

>>60979436
have you tried cleaning the 2 year old dust out
removing the keyboard isn't difficult

>>60979459
Don't have the means to take it apart atm and if I did I fear I'd immediately fuck something up.

Also this isn't a recent issue, it started maybe a few months after I got it.

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>>60979518
it takes 2 screws and just slides out

you own a screwdriver, right?

How do thinkpads cope with Linux?

i5 2,4 thinkpad t410 for 140 good condition, should I bros? it will be my first thinkpad

>>60981602
no

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Just bought a T420 desu

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>>60965742
https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/search/sya?query=thinkpad&bundleDuplicates=1
which one of these is the most powerful, has the best battery life, and has the highest resolution screen?

Is getting a T420 better than a T470? Besides the price, is the processing chip and screen quality really that different?

Will the chinks at lenovo change their processors to Raven Ridge processors?

>>60981602
Maybe worth it. Think carefully due to that price

T400:
>C2D P8600
>2 GB RAM
>320 GB HDD
>Includes charger and battery
>Screen res unknown; I'm assuming 768p
>$75
Y/N? I have a PC3-12800 2gb ram stick lying around, can I use it to upgrade it a bit if I happen to get it?

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UPS asked if what I'm shipping contains batteries

do I say yes or no and what happens

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Is the stuff about ThinkPads being waterproof/resistant a meme?

Had a T510 for a while and just now reading about their water resiliance. Am I right in thinking that if you were to spill water on the keyboard, the deal is that in theory it should drain out and save the expensive components like the motherboard, CPU, GPU, RAM etc. but the keyboard will be shot and need replacing?

>>60982964
ThinkPad keyboards are spill-resistant.

The whole thing is not waterproof, the keyboard is not waterproof.

They keyboard will collect all water spilled onto it and push it to the two drain holes at the bottom which route underneath the laptop. The keyboard should still be functional.

Basically, don't pour water on your laptop for fun.

>>60983014
>Basically, don't pour water on your laptop for fun.
Don't tell me what to do.

>>60982876
batteries have to ground domestically.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440s-20AQ006HUS-14-inch-Ultrabook-Black-/122531896081?hash=item1c87785b11:g:YrkAAOSwq1JZM2Vu
>$2200
y tho

>>60982329
you can get a T410 for that, or even a rough t420.
If you really need that 16:10 screen, get a T61 for like $30 and upgrade the CPU for $20

/tpg/ Discord: https://discord.gg/aeQyN7g

>>60966790
What's probably causing your eye strain is the PWM flicker

This is because Lenovo likes to use really low flicker rates like 200Hz

The lower your screen brightness the worse this phenomenon will be

So all you can really do is turn up brightness to make it better

>>60967194
3rd gen has much faster iGPU and about 20% faster core speed

A worthy upgrade I think

Probably the 3rd gen has somewhat better battery life as well

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-2620M-vs-Intel-Core-i7-3520M/m643vsm50

>>60971979
The dGPUs on the Ivy Bridge thinkpads kick the shit out of the ones on the Sandy Bridge thinkpads as well by the same factor as the igpu is better

>>60972900
Because the X2__ used to use the 35W CPUs and now they only use the 15W CPUs

So since the X220 the X270 sees not a whole lot of performance gain

>>60973053
>I would hibernate but
>this kills the ssd
No it won't. SSDs can write more than spinning rust can by this point.

Think about it, your hibernation is only going to be your ram size. So, 8-16GB a day. That's really not a whole lot compared to all the other shit you're doing every day,

>>60973974
You're comparing a performance quad core CPU and a much bigger screen with the smaller battery option, with a mobile 2 core CPU with the biggest battery option

The results make sense

>>60976788
General consensus Ive seen is they run hot as balls compared to the P50

>>60977776
They keyboard is still pretty good. Because the keys still curve in unlike every other chiclet keyboard design. To this day they still retain that which is nice.

People just think losing the 7th row is a bit of a letdown but if you didnt use the Pause or Scroll Lock keys a lot it's not a huge deal

>>60966790
The old eye cancer meme is just a meme.

I'm not sure if I should get a laptop with a touchpad. I'm really not sure.

If i just get a regular laptop I'm getting a X270. Need it for two more years of school.

$110 for an X61, good deal or nah?

>Core 2 Duo T9300 (2.5GHz)
>120GB HDD
>2GB DDR2
>1024x768 GMA X3100

The ThinkPad X270 and ThinkPad 13 seem really similar.

T470 with a classic keyboard and a 4:3 display.

Neon logo.

Retarded premium pricing ($1500+).

Screenshot this.

Can anyone explain the advantages of LibreBoot?

>>60986569
You're computer won't have a backdoor that gives intel, the nsa, or cyber criminals complete control of your computer.

>>60986605
Don't Intel processors have a backdoor by default? And by extension, for all we know AMD has one too?

Redpill me on the T420. I want to get one and start using it in 2018 when it supports Libreboot and unironically install Gentoo on it. Is the screen really as horrid as people say?

>>60986671
Yes, which libreboot disables.

>>60985426
I got X131e for $100, it got Celeron 1.5GHz, 4GB DDR3 RAM, 1366x768 display.
Not worth id IMO

>>60986678
I got the 1600x900 display and it's fine

>>60986977
Not him but can you watch 720p-1080p movies on it? That's all I plan on doing besides college stuff and playing CS 1.6 (which shouldn't be a hassle on any hardware)

>>60968718
this i really regret getting it. wish i can switch to the x220 instead. The backlight is pretty weak too or its just dying?

>>60984614
Yeah but unless you're talking about the w530, the nvs card is a pile of ass

wondering how is the performance difference between a i5 2520m and i7 3520m is the 3250m able to hold a few more years?

>>60987038
You should be able to. Also me and a few friends used have lan parties in my high school library on a few pile of shit optiplexes so cs 1.6 really runs on toasters

>>60987174
The igpu alone makes ivy bridge better than Sandy bridge
Performance wise they're not much different

>>60987205
so i guess i shouldnt bother getting a x230 then? im waiting for the zenbook ux550 that will release later this year?

>>60986678
Depends really. Have you been using a monitor / laptop with a good ips display with excellent viewing angles?
If yes, then it's worse than /g/ makes it out to be
If no, then it's pretty average. Just be sure to get the 900p display. Don't waste your time on 768p

Personally my laptop before my T430 was shitty acer with a 768p TN shit pile and massively overheating hardware and I've been liking the display on my T430 much more

>>60987222
The dual core i7 is fast but you wouldn't notice it that much desu. If you already haven't I'd just putting an ssd in your current thinkpad and saving up for how much the zenbook is

>>60987305
yup, put in ssd, 8gb ram and larger battery. maybe add more ram would help? got modded bios on it. the backlight seems to be going shit

>>60987375
8 is enough. Maybe you didn't seat the display connector properly?

>>60987391
it is connected pretty well, just took it apart and clean everything up. its more like the backlight is getting weak overtime. have to crank up the brightness almost all the time

>>60987422
Pretty odd. That shouldn't happen to lcds
Maybe replace the entire lid if you're feeling like it

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I've X230 Tablet. Why I can't change screen brightness in Windows 7 Home Premium? I don't have any slider. Fn Keys work but F8 and F9 that should change brightness don't work. Do I have to install any drivers? I did disk format and then I installed Windows 7 HP and some drivers from lenovo's download website. Help me, please.

>>60978562
what the fuck are you talking about?
ultrabay on the T430 is sata 3?
>>60978656
just buy a compatible caddy (literally any caddy) and put in the drive

>>60978709
you disassemble your laptop
remove the heatsink
pull out the old cpu
and reassemble everything
its not that hard

>>60983334
then go back to >>>/reddit/ and be manchild over there

>>60983592
some old dude thinks his thinkpad TM is worth a shit ton
I once saw someone claim his x131e was "worth 1500 new" and that he was doing a favor by "letting it go for 300"

>>60968299
Stop posting this fake image you fucking retards.

What does it take for your T400 to start getting hot /tpg/?

>>60968108
inb4 they are displays for a new (((tablet)))
>>60971626
Dont worry, it'll be 2048x1536.

>>60971089
The carbon fiber wrap is awful but the red mouse nub is cute

>>60971090
X230

You get usb3.0 and a faster could and a faster igpu

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>>60965742
I recently installed libreboot on my X60s, pretty comfy senpai

>>60987154
Evenn the NVS cards in the _30 series are a big upgrade over the ones in _20

>>60989912
it looks awful just because my camera lens is deformed. IRL it looks much better
also it's for the palm comfort, not look

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HERE WE GO BOYS

WE RETRO NOW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukrFJClKaLA

Is socketed CPU the only draw for 2170p? The TN screen is really off-putting for me

How do you track point scroll with no middle button?

>>60990132
2170p?
It doesn't have a socketed cpu. It's a 11" netbook desu

>>60990132
>How do you track point scroll with no middle button?
you can either:
1. Just scroll with two fingers via touchpad
2. Use any reserved touchpad area as the "middle trackpoint button"
3. Use combination of left and right trackpoint buttons as middle click/scroll button.

>>60990172
>>60990132
My bad, meant 2570p

>>60990132
Can I just swap in an X230 IPS panel? Or is it a different connector?

is t60 the redpilled choice?

>>60990405
Only if you get the get the T70 motherboard for it

>>60990282
yes you can, but nobody cared enough to do that, and since there is only like one thread on the internet documenting 2570p mods just nobody cares.
>>60990268
>socketed CPU with efficient cooling system capable of handling up to i7-3940xm cpu
>16GB 2133MT/s CL11 RAM support
>very nice eGPU support (hotplug, up to 90% PCIe 2.0 x1 link capability
>two 2,5" 9,5mm bays
>RAID0 12Gbps support
>non-overheating docking station with standard 3x USB 3.0 and 1x USB 2.0 charging port
>easy access to all internal components via single switch
>better speakers than x230
>non-whitelisted wifi slot. You can upgrade wifi card to intel 7260ac without playing with hardware SPI flasher and BIOS modifications like x230 users
>overclocking ability
>trackpoint with "tapping" support
>hardware battery charge indicator

>>60990444
>things that actually matter
>>two 2,5" 9,5mm bays
>>easy access to all internal components via single switch
>>hardware battery charge indicator

>>60990512
>desktop-class CPU performance doesn't matter
lmao.
>>60990261
>>60990132
forgot the most important one
you scroll with right trackpoint button. If you press it and release it will act as normal right mouse button. If you press it and use trackpoint it will scroll. Simple as that.

>>60990546
>buy an ultraportable
>get desktop class battery lfie
yeah lmaoooo

>>60990444
How do you justify the keyboard though?

At least Lenovo shitlet keys have the same travel distance and curve inward

>>60990591
i7-3940xm uses same amount of power in idle as i5-3320m
nobody forces you to load it in 100%. My i7-3740qm and 45Wh battery allows me to use my 2570p for 4-6 hours of normal (100% screen brightness) use. And there is always my second, 100Wh 9cell battery.

>>60990669
justify?
I just use it. It never bothers me that it's shitlet.
At least it has the menu button where it should, unlike x230 shitlet cancer keyboards that have fucking print screen button there.

>>60990686
putting that desktop class performance to good use sitting at idle all the time

sounds like you have a bad case of buyer's remorse after you nickel and dimed your $100 laptop into a $600 one

>>60990790
>sitting at idle all the time
????????
are vms, gaymes via egpu, rendering and other stuff considered "idle"?
>sounds like you have a bad case of buyer's remorse
sounds like you're a normie or you're too retarded to properly utilize fast CPU.

At first you lied about bad battery life, you were proven wrong.
Then you moved your goalpost to "muh idling CPU". Proven wrong again.
What's next? Yo mama jokes?

Kill yourself.

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>>60990917
DELET THIS

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>>60990917
>Then you moved your goalpost to "muh idling CPU". Proven wrong again.

what? you brought up idle usage retard

and the hell are you even talking about?
>i7-3940xm uses same amount of power in idle as i5-3320m
this is just false, the same applies to i7-3740qm

along with increased power usage, increased heat, increased fan speeds and noise

kill urself

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>>60990686
>4 cores uses the same power as 2 cores

>>60991046
I said in idle it uses same amount of power. It has nothing to do with power usage in general, while I clearly said 55Wh (typo, not 45Wh) 6cell battery and i7-3740qm during normal load (chrome use ie) plays fine for 4-6 hours.
>this is just false
care you elaborate?
You know cores are internally unpowered when unused? You know how speedstep works, right?
>along with increased power usage, increased heat, increased fan speeds and noise
Oh look, desktop class cpu generates more heat. WHAT A FUCKING SURPRISE.

>>60989932
what's the benefit of having libreboot? besides the yac graphics?

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>>60991069
dumb frog poster
learn my post over and over again, as many times as you need to properly process the "idle" part.

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was this a joke

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>>60991097
>buy ultraportable
>get desktop class battery life
>and noise and thermals

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>>60991232
>learn
*read
lmao
pic rel is i5-3210m with "big boy" cores that require more power.

I never said under full load both cpus drain same amount of power. I'm saying you can easily limit multipler on battery power to get same power consumption with much better performance, and then unlock full performance on power supply/100Wh battery

>>60991307
>desktop class battery life
6 hours on 6cell battery and 12 hours on 9cell
Show me such a desktop computer pls senpai
Idling cores are internally UNPOWERED. And since quad core cpus have smaller cores it's normal that it uses same/less power in idle.

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>>60991361
>desktop class performance
>btw it sits at idle all the time

>>60966038
You did good, I got the same one with the modem for 450$ but it was brand new with 4 years of guarantee

Is it in good condition ? Is the battery life ok

>>60991438
>shitposting with 2dpds
>being this nigger to not read properly

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