>93ºC on stock freq. >Liquid Cooling Recommended

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DELET

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Firelake looks good, tbqh senpai

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>>60958551
>93c on air cooling

I hope every retard saying Intel was going to solder the finished product or use better thermal paste eats a big fat shit sandwich.

This is fine, There's nothing to worry about until 105C, stop making a mountain out of a molehill!

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>83c 280mm rad(dual 140mm rad)

Just downclock it dude, you don't need 4000mhz

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>>60958671
Buy raid keys. It's better.

Imagine running that CPU with Intel's stock cooler

>>60958551
A weapon to surpass FX-9590

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>>60958671

>>60958628
105C is fine, 666C is where things might get a little toasty, goy.

I remember the sandybridge days where Intel was the top dog when it came with heat efficiency. AMD's MOAR COARS couldn't compete and just made noisy housefires.

How things have changed.

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>>60958682
This cant be real..... this is a $1000 CPU...

>>60958682
Hardware dlc, thanks Intel!

>>60958682
>supports only intel SSD modules
DOA.

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>>60958551
Extreme Housefire Technology™

>>60958551
This like an fx9590, but with performance gains.

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>>60958931
That's not what it looks like, goy.

>>60958671
Then why this product even exist?

>>60959017
>DELID THIS

>>60958551
I never thought I would have witnessed the days that Intel is worse than AMD.

>>60959095
Like in 1998?

>>60959095
You mean again, right? Intel has always been lazy.

>>60959095
you must be 18 to post here

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>>60958551
7740X isn't even that much better.
I guess they literally just jizz on the die and use it as TIM.

>>60958551
PEOPLE ARE STILL BUY THIS SHIT, BELIEVE ME.

>>60958839
Just like good old times

>>60959392
>87 on air
DELID THIS

And here I was, thinking my 1600X hitting 65°C was too much.
When the fuck did 70+ temp become acceptable for 24/7 use?
Enjoy your slowly dying hardware.

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>>60959402
Probably not.

>>60958551
I don't see a problem two rads and 6 fans couldn't fix.

>>60958551
*ITER edition

>>60959582
Hope they throw in some noise cancelling headphones.

>>60959582
Or a normal air cooler if fucking mayo wasn't used.

>>60959582
>81c on dual rad 140mm(280mm total)
>stock
It's doa for me.

>>60959582
It simply doesn't output heat fast enough due to the mayonnaise inside. The only solution here is cryogenics.

>>60958878

Not enough attention is being paid to this.

The gouging for RAID is hilarious enough, the gouging for Intel drives only is a massive fuck you.

>>60958551
Come on intel, go for 666W or go home!

>>60959641
I remember Linus mentioning that in his rant video as a "possible rumor". Guess it was true? That's fucked up.

>>60959625
Depending on FFT version they are using, this is "acceptable" considering full AVX usage without AVX reduction. I only seen prime95 consistently use AVX

>>60959663
It's true. Source: x299 msi manual.

>>60958758
Don't be silly, 666C is a bit warm but within tolerances, just watch for 6,000,000C temps, might want to invest in an AIO or CL

>>60959677
Blender, handbrake, x265 also use AVX.
Disabling AVX or putting a offset on these many core CPUs just lowers the performance of their intended use case.

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>>60959508
>When the fuck did 70+ temp become acceptable for 24/7 use

>>60959508
When it became normal for Intlel it became normal for everyone.

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DELID DIS NOW

>>60959739
well, since forever the issue is that pump and fans will go crazy and die in a year

>>60959508
>my 1600X hitting 65°C
by which measurement? tdie is 20C lower
install HWInfo for proper temps

>>60959764
Obviously going up to 300C is some specialist shit and not normal for CPUs

but modern technology has failsafes for overheating, hitting 110 shuts off your machine, this is before damage not after

>>60959764
oh and the noise, and heat exhaust from the case

heck even running cpu+gpu at 60C is like having a heater in the room due to cooler efficiency
can't imagine how 70 would go

>wants ulatimate performance
>and low temps
>and efficiency

Pick one and only one, you entitled children

>>60959833
I just don't want to burn my house to the ground.

>>60959833
Sure, a 24+ core at 3.0Ghz+

What do I win?

>>60959833
16 cores instead of 10 it is then

>>60959833
I pick AMD then.

>>60959833
>>60959859
>R3KT

It's ok, you can always buy another house and the CPU comes with a warantee

>>60958551
New Housefire from Intel

>>60959783
Sure, but you don't want your stuff running at that heat for extended amounts of time.

>>60959833
Ryzen 1800x

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>>60958551
93ºC!

>>60959910
Why did it change blue and suddenly Boom?

>>60959958
Turboboost.

>>60959877
>>60958773
Excuse you. This term is trademarked. If you have permision to use this term please indicate as such by using the trademark symbol. Intel Housefire™ Technology

>>60959958
Overclock failed.

Sorry if I sound stupid, but I have never done this watercooling thing.
Isn't it a problem hitting almost 100°C, when your cooling medium is water?
Isn't it gonna boil or some shit?

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>>60958551

>>60959212
18 is being born in 1998 anon

>>60960023
The chip hits 100ºc, not the water.

>>60960023
You know when you boil water in a pot?
The heat soure is above 100c. So is the metal pot, but the water gets to 100c after they do. and cpus will throttle down when they hit 100c

>>60960055
To 1999

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>>60959739
>Silicones

>>60959989
>Intel Housefire™ Technology
oh yea I remember, thanks presshot

>>60960074
that's an excerpt from a piece specifically about electronics

>>60960023
A state change from water to steam is endothermic, so on top of the fact that the given temperatures are on the CPU itself, successfully boiling water in a cooling loop would require the CPU to reach way, way over 100C.

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>>60958551
It's like Pentium 4 Exteme Edition again
I can not contain my laughter

>>60960090
Do you not understand the difference between silicon and silicone?

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>>60958699

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>>60959508
>Enjoy your slowly dying hardware.
It shortens the life span like from 20 years to 10 years, and even that is probably an overstatement. Please stop spreading memes.
Source: I run pic related pretty much since launch at 85C load.

>>60960176
What are you using to cool that thing?

>>60960176
Well I successfully crippled a 3770k buy running it 4.5Ghz@ 80°C for a month.
Was rock stable for 5 years@stock before that.
So excuse me if I have doubts.

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>>60960214
pic related. SilentiumPC Grandis, pretty hard to come by outside europe

>>60960220
unlucky, anon
before 2500K I had E2160, overclocked to 3.5GHz from 1.8GHz stock. Ran 80C on intel cooler for 5 years without a problem, still works as a media server, though admittedly now runs on stock clock.

>>60958839
they did the same shit 7-8 years ago on pre builts...selling 4c/8t as 4c/4c and forcing people to buy software keys to enable HT

>>60959017
>intel circumcision tool.jpg
kekd

>>60958773
I used to have an FX 6100, well still do just don't use it. I could clock it to 4.6ghz an temps were still under 68c with prime95. Had a 212 plus for cooling. I don't think fx series shoulda got all the hate they did. They were pretty decent for the price imo.

>>60960220
I seriously doubt 80°C temperature was the problem. More likely you/your shitty mobo gave it too many volts.

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They realized their CPU's are lasting too long, they rather get maybe a little better performance, heat the cpu more, and have it break on you earlier so you buy another sooner.

Also its not just hotter but it draws more power, both of which contribute to cpu degredation.

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>>60960354

>>60960304
That was socket temp by the way.

>>60959663
post video

>>60960354
who is this fluid druid

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>>60960354
Those tits

>>60960460
if you cant do a right click and searched on google you should leave /g/ and RMA your self

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>>60960354
Wow anon that was a level of Judaism I didn't even consider.

>>60960438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWFzWRoVNnE

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Is 93C that bad? I've been running my 4870 for quite a few years and it hits about 115C under load with no problem.

>>60960636
That is very likely misreading the temperature. It would thermal shutdown by that point.

>>60959833
Already have picked one, Intlel shill

>It's called Ryzen

>>60960354
MOMMY

>>60960776
Who are you quoting?

>>60960329
1.25V MSI Z77a-gd65 Corsair AX750.
Enlighten me.

>>60960176
Smaller manufacturing processes are more fragile.

>>60959833
I'll just buy a threadripper for that

>>60959725
>40c?! What do you need 68c for?! You need 80c! Fine, if you insist, you can have your 95c!

>>60958551
i need to see ryzen for comparison

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>>60960636

>102c

GET ON MY LEVEL SCRUB.

>>60958551
It's been like this since haswell. Avx2 causes Intel chips to consume 2x the power and overheat.

Not even watercooling can cool an overclocked x99 chip running these special instructions. The mixture die shrink + core density translates to the chip unable to conduct heat fast enough through the relatively small surface area.

It's the same reason why ryzen doesn't fully support avx2.

>Praz nailed it really. The newer versions of Prime load in a way that they are only safe to run at near stock settings. The server processors actually downclock when AVX2 is detected to retain their TDP rating. On the desktop we're free to play and the thing most people don't know is how much current these routines can generate. It can be lethal for a CPU to see that level of current for prolonged periods.

As for the universal validity of various stability testing programs, that's a more difficult question to answer without using illustrations to simplify what occurs at the electrical level on some of the associated buses.

Being brief as possible and focusing on DRAM transfer as an example: Data is moved around the system in high and low logic or signal states. The timing of these systems and those that rely on them needs to be matched closely enough for data to be moved around and interpreted correctly.A burst of data may contain a series of 1s and 0s. The 1s pull more current as they require defined voltage level that is above 0. Each data pattern has a different effect on the timing margin. Some eat into the timing margin more than others (I may illustrate the theory of this in a future guide). If a given stress test does not generate patterns in a way that eats into the timing budget sufficiently to represent how the system is used, the stress test won't be as useful to the end-user.

>>60961882
>That's why most stress test programs alternate between different data pattern types. Depending on how effective the rotation is, and how well that pattern causes issues for the system timing margin, it will, or will not, catch potential for instability. So it's wise not to hang one's hat on a single test type. Evaluate what your needs are from the system and try to run a variety of tools to ensure the system is stable in various ways. We also need to bear in mind that some stress tests only focus on a single part of the system, while others will impact multiple areas at once.

Seasoned users usually find a systematic way that leads them from stress tests that focus on individual areas to those that hit the entire system as part of their test regimen. Ultimately, this all comes down to what your requirements are and using enough testing to confirm reasonable stability for the system in its intended usage scenario.

We coded Realbench to generate stress with real-world apps. It's a useful tool for people that encode, render or crunch numbers with their systems. However, it's not the only method out there - there are many tools to evaluate system stability that are perfectly valid.

>>60961882

>It's the same reason why ryzen doesn't fully support avx2.


Ryzen supports AVX2 just fine - its just (on paper) half as fast newer intel architectures at such workloads as ryzen needs two cycles compared to intel's one.

>>60961882
The real problem here isn't the actual power consumption, it's the poor quality TIM they use which prevents effective heat transfer from the CPU to the cooling system. You can slap a fancy custom WC setup on the thing and it will help somewhat, but the shit TIM is still a huge bottleneck in the heat transfer chain. That's why delidding is so very, very effective.

>>60958551
It's even worse.

The tippy top i9 has a lower TDP than the FX9590, and still runs hotter out of the box.

>>60959833
I'll just go Ryzen and get all three.

So skylake is the latest good Intel cpu?
It has low temperature and all.

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>>60961882

>>60962005
Smaller die => Concentrated heat

>>60962001
The product is perfectly fine. It works out of the box and doesn't throttle. There are no problems.

Intel uses shit tim because newfags kill their processors running these special instructions then they are forced to replace it. Using tim voids the warranty though the urge of delidding.

>>60962040
>off hand state a negative fact about amd
>ayyymd fags comes out of the woodwork

rabid amd faggots like you makes me embarrassed
to be in the same community once I get threadripper

>>60962078
>dat 1700


If it was only possible to have one core turbo to 4.0 in single threaded work while all the others use default all core turbo at 3.2GHz

This would be the most perfect chip ever.

>Don't stress test Intel CPU!

The damage control is hilarious

>>60962186
You shouldn't run furmark for the same reasons. A 390x can consume 600w though furmark.

>>60962232
All modern GPU throttle in furmark on purpose, Crysis actally uses more power running.

>>60962163
>The product is perfectly fine.
I mean, the product is not dysfunctional out of the box, it would be a "failed prototype" and not an actual "product" if that were the case, things which make it to market tend to work even if poorly. It's still an unappealing, very costly product compared to what AMD seems to be bringing out though, not to mention that it even gets rekt by Broadwell-E in certain workloads despite running at higher clocks.

>Intel uses shit tim because newfags kill their processors running these special instructions
This is retarded, Intel CPUs don't get "killed" if they have to throttle. Entire market segments are made up of devices which use Intel CPUs which throttle due to thermal constraints simply as part of their normal, by-design operating conditions (laptops).

>>60962248
With the default power limit, which equals to running stock settings on processors.

>>60962266
avx2 kills the imc through the immense current. If you owned x99 you would know this.

>>60962333
AVX2 kills the memory controller? First time I've heard of it, on what CPUs? Broadwell?

>>60962393
only a risk if you oc high and disable fivr

>>60962167

I wonder if its doable through pstate overclocking?

>>60962478
Wait, are you actually talking about the memory controller (IMC) or are you actually referring to the integrated voltage regulator (IVR)? I can see fucking the IVR through excessive power draw, though not the IMC really. How the fuck do you burn out the IMC through excessive current, do you mean if you overvolt it too much or what?

>>60962517
P state affects all cores though, I think P-state per core is doable though, just not on every board.

>>60962522
It's a combination of factors but it does happen and isn't rare. Killing isn't really the right term because the system still functions under lower clocks and fucked memory settings. Search through hwbot and oc forums using the terms avx2 and fivr and you'll get the whole story. I have to go.

>>60962594
gotta shill fast?

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>Using an unrealistic synthetic benchmark that produces temps you literally won't see when not using it

>>60963443
>prime95
>benchmark
stupid goy

>>60963510
You know what I meant fuckboi, don't sass me

>>60958551
Closed loop coolers are shit though
They lose to high end air coolers.

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>>60962594
?

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>>60959392
With fucking 4 cores, just 4?
T
F

My custom loop is compatible with the SkylakeX socket.
Two 480mm rads and a single 120mm
I could cool that house fire.

But I don't have enough a $1000 to blow

DELID THIS

>>60965467
>yfw your $2000 cpu gets destroyed while deliding