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Be honest /g/ --- if you were wealthy, would you own a MacBook

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Be honest /g/ --- if you were wealthy, would you own a MacBook Pro, iPhone, etc. ?

If you're totally honest - can you admit that money is the only thing keeping you from total Apple adoption ?
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you don't need to be wealthy to buy apple products. i bought a 3k€ pc last year and i'm on fucking welfare.

stop deluding yourself into thinking you are 'rich'.

i wouldn't use apple products even if they were free.
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macOS is UNIX but without the negatives
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>>60956413
desu i could, but spending 2399$ on a laptop that can't even play fucking csgo is idiotic for me.
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>>60956413
I can afford it but doesn't mean that I'm going to waste my money on an overheating mess.
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Yeah, but not as my daily driver. Just to play around with.
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>>60956432
>macOS is UNIX but without the negatives
and all the negatives of macOS
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>>60956431
>i bought a 3k€ pc last year and i'm on fucking welfare.

congrats you're a nigger
if you're incapacitated, spend it on shit you need. if not, save to move and get a fucking job
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>>60956413

no, if I were wealthy I would have almost nothing to do with computers.
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>>60956480
Name one?
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>>60956413
desu i'd get the surfacebook pro so i can pop off the tablet and get comfy while reading PDFs of newspapers, magazines, and manuals.
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>>60956413
>macbook pro
maybe, likely not
>iphone
no

>>60956512
it's proprietary for a start
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>>60956539
>it's proprietary for a start
That is a negative? Are you a communist?
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>>60956512
No native snapping for arranging windows
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>>60956544
yes, because I can't easily modify the software my system uses
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>>60956413
No. If I were wealthy, this is what I'd own as far as computers go:
>high end home server for storage and computational purposes
>X1 Yoga
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>>60956413
>if you were wealthy
I'll build a better rig
not an overprice hardware
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I used final cut pro in college, i like making videos and have fun using the software, if i could afford it i'd love a 5k imac to dick about with.
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>>60956481
or i could continue spending my free money on the things i like and not listen to some jellymad wageslave online.
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I have a 13" Air at the moment, tempted to go for a new 13" Pro, the touchbarless version however, i still like my keys.
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maybe, i'm not sure. if i did earn a decent wage then i would consider it an option, but i don't know if i would think i'd want to spend that kind of money on a laptop. if money was no object whatsoever, then i would like one
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>>60956589
i don't think you're happy with your life
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>>60956413
>if you were wealthy, would you own a MacBook Pro, iPhone, etc. ?
No, because I'm technically literate and not gay.
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>>60956603
what makes you think that?
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>>60956432
Or positives, for that matter.
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>>60956609
He's just a buttblasted wagecuck, don't mind him.
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>>60956413
Buy a Chromebook for $260 USD and build a desktop with two 1080 ti GPUs. Blowing that kind of money on a laptop isn't very bright.
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>>60956413
Apple is the ATH-M50x's of electronics. You're an idiot for following with the crowd and buying a sub-par product for significantly more than it's worth.
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>>60956671
with -> going along
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In 2009 I bought myself a Macbook Pro, and I can honestly say... never again. Apple cannot into hardware quality at all, and the thing became unusable after about 2 years. As for an iPhone... no. There's no proper iOS equivalent to a number of the applications that I use on Android that don't require a jailbreak. Unfortunately, jailbreaking iOS requires the exploitation of a security vulnerability, meaning that it is impossible to have a secure iPhone that runs what I want. By comparison, rooting on Android can be accomplished just by flashing the right binaries... unless you're using Samsung, but I don't really like their garbage anyways.

If I was well off, I'd probably just use a Google Pixel and run Lineage OS on it.

If I was stupid rich (able to blow a million without breaking a sweat), I'd commission a new phone with an accompanying custom ROM to fit my own specifications.
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>>60956413
Maybe MacBook just for the build quality.
iPhone why?
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>>60956413
I have an iPhone already. MacBook Pro is a no, even though I love macOS. I'll fight it because I love my function keys.
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The 13" is within the ballpark of reasonable, the 15" is ridiculous.
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>>60956413
>iPhone
No, iOS is shit. I'd rather buy android.
>MB Pro
Yes. If I had money to throw away and not give a shit about it I'd buy it just to check it out. If I didn't like the OS I'd just slap Linux on it.
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>>60956735
>run Lineage OS on it
>not CopperheadOS

what the fuck are you doing
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>>60956413
No digitizer no buy
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>>60956748
There is the non-touch bar model just saying.
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>>60956974
>copperhead
For what reason?
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>>60957029
Yeah, but that one is low-specced. Honestly, I'm still using an old-ass ThinkPad, and I've taken the entire thing apart, replaced the CPU, and etc. I love being able to do that. If money wasn't an issue, I suppose I could get rid of this, but I am genuinely having fun when I am tinkering with the guts of my computer.
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>>60956413
Nope, I prefer Android over iOS on phones because I run custom ROMs, I already own a 2011 Macbook Pro but I don't need a laptop so my next device will be the 10 inch iPad Pro with the stylus for college.

MacOS is a hundred times better than Windows on laptops but I don't want to get an iMac because I want to be able to upgrade my PC easily. I've been thinking about building a Hackintosh but it's more hassle than it's worth.
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>>60956413
I would try ios out. Not that I need an iphone, my phone is a glorified podcast player.

No reason to get a mac though.
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>>60956413
I am and no, absolutely not. I'm fairly sure everyone else who got into crypto-mining years ago also owns exactly zero Apple-products.

First of all, I can't do even the most basic things when them. More importantly, when I try some Apple product at someone's place and ask them how to do very basic things I usually get the answer "you can't do that on an iPhone" or "you can't do that on a Macbook".

I'm also generally disgusted with the way they do totally stupid things like solder the SSD onto the motherboard. I've had laptop's die on me before and it's just been the very simple matter of taking out the harddrive to get the data. On those foolish Macbooks you actually have to try to repair the motherboard. The data-loss wouldn't be gigantic since I backup regularly but the whole concept just seems stupid.

On a slightly different topic, the idea that money somehow keeps you from things really is quite silly. I've started giving things like high-end laptops and phones and guitars to my nephews and nieces since the crypto-boom really started back in 2012 but I mostly have the same kind of lifestyle and spending as I did before.
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>>60957047
Security.
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yes OP the money is very much the only problem. with money i can also buy other softwares too
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>>60956413
I'm not super rich but but I make a good amount and I don't buy a lot of stuff. I live in a small house in a middle class neighborhood and I drive a car from 2013, I eat a lot of ramen and mountain dew. I really hate all that rich people shit. Living a simple life is a lot more comfy, even though I'm making 160k. I have an 11 inch MacBook Air running Fedora that I use for work. I have two desktops. One runs Debian stretch and serves mostly as a home server that I use for VMs and storage. Then I have a smaller desktop that's a hackintosh. OS X is nice for shitposting and stuff, but not much else. I don't do any gaming besides DOS games and a couple of XP-era ones that I have a VM set up for. I'm really not a fan of Apple hardware, and I won't be purchasing more of it in the future. I only use the Air because it's small and light, gets excellent battery life, and I'm too lazy to shop for a new laptop and migrate my data (I'm the kind of pleb that copies and pastes the home folder for backups). I will continue to use OS X on my desktop though, and I'm pretty hyped for high Sierra. I highly recommend hackintoshing. It's really easy.

Moving into the mobile side of things, my first smartphone was an iPhone 1st gen in 2007. It was 4GB and cost me almost $1200 because they were all sold out. It was great and I owned every iPhone after that until the iPhone 4s. I didn't get the 5, and in 2013 Apple totally fucked up iOS 7. I bought a Nexus 5 and started using custom ROMs. Now I have a OnePlus 3T and I'll be buying the 5 soon. I like the features of CyanogenMod/Lineage OS. It does everything I need it to and it has no downsides for me. I do keep up with iPhone launches and new iOS releases just out of curiosity, and it looks like shit. I'm not going to be buying iOS devices any time soon. Tablets are of little interest to me. I have a Pixel C and I just use it for porn and YouTube videos.

Also Windows is garbage for plebs. Keep it in a VM.
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>>60957109
>ask them how to do very basic things I usually get the answer "you can't do that on an iPhone" or "you can't do that on a Macbook".
"How do I open Internet Explorer?"
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>>60956413
Yes, yes I would.
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>>60956413
I don't personally like the design of the macbooks.
I have no experience with the OS, but I don't like that you have to get their laptop to use it.
I am very comfortable with linux anyway.

The phones seem appealing.
They are cheap, small and the OS gets updated.
I have no experience with the OS on the iphones though.
Android is a bad OS, I get that it works for me personally but my setup is very conservative and I don't have google installed.
I currently have two phones, maybe I should get a third to test ios, but it seems a bit wasteful.
People who use iphones are usually not testing the things that matter to me, so I can't know if they are even an option for me.
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Honestly? No

I'm well adjusted to Windows and have no reason to switch.
And if I did, I would have to switch to iPhone too to get use of the "echosystem"
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>>60957326
>They are cheap
What?
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>>60957299
macOS sucks, literally anything else is better, even winblows
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>>60957348
This is what Wintards actually believe.
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>>60957348
You're wrong. OS X is stable (even on unofficial hardware) and polished. It works great if you have the hardware for it. It's also really easy to delete the very few "features" that most would consider invasive, such as Spotlight, iTunes, Siri, etc. The Winshit botnet is permanent though. No placebo tools will protect you, peasant.
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>>60957342
The only iphone that is appealing to me is the small one and that one is a lot cheaper a lot of android phones.
The bigger one is cheaper than the top android phones.
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>>60956431
this
also to be honest i would not buy my /g/ memeing macOS really hard but i prefer iphone over android any day
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>>60957342
they are
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>>60957423
They are not. iPhone 7 is like 800 euros. And if you want the proper model, it's 1000 euros. Or the same as a MacBook Air.
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>>60956413
No.
I dont begrudge others for using them (surely better than windows), but they don't fit my use.
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>>60956413
I bought a Porsche Design laptop because It's wealthier than your plebian Apple'aling brand.
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>>60957356
>>60957393
I don't run Windows, cucks. But it's still better, which is fucking sad
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>>60957484
It's not.
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>>60957489
Brilliant retort. Fuck off apple shill
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>>60957502
You've backed up your retarded opinions with literally nothing and you want a retort? Where can I find other people as retarded as you? Redmond?
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no desu senpai
I'd probably buy MS surface
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Currently own a Nexus 6P and was a Android fanboy when I was into gaming and had a lot of free time on my hands to fuck around and do shit like install custom ROM's etc.

I can upgrade to the newest phone for free right now, but I'll be waiting for the iPhone 8 to come out and will be upgrading to that. In all seriousness, Android is only for children/nerds who like to fuck around on their phone and customize it etc. For most adults, an iPhone is perfect because it does exactly what they need with nicely polished apps and a great UI experience. Please tell me how your custom ROM Android is better than an iPhone and can do normal everyday things better than an iPhone. kek.

MacBook Pro, definitely would buy it and probably will once my "gaming pc" eventually dies/becomes too slow. I couldn't touch a Windows Laptop because they're all made out of cheap plastic and the build quality is terrible (except maybe Dell XPS) so MacBook is the only way to go when buying a laptop. Only downside to it is that it's really expensive and will be outdated within 2 years, meaning you have to buy a new one again. Not a problem if you're rich though.
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>>60957502
go back to /v/
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>>60957502
Please go away, wintard.
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>>60957520
Stay mad apple cuck
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I'm poor and I own one
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>>60956413
If I were wealthy, I'd probably own a P71, not a MacBook.
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>>60956413
i am moderately wealthy and i use mostly apple products :)
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>>60956413
Maybe putting an iPad on the bathroom. But thats all.
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>>60957578
The butthurt is palpable.
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>>60956549
>modify the software
You mean ricing? That's pretty much the only thing that /g/ utilizes Linux for anyway
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>>60957577
>>60957597
>invest in overpriced piece of garbage
>surprise, it's a steaming pile of shit
>seek approval from /g/ to justify purchase
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I'm not even rich but & I own a 2015 13.3" rMBP & an iPhone 7
I like the Apple ecosystem, so yeah once I do get "rich" maybe I'll buy a Mac Pro
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>>60956413
no because i don't like mac os, apple keyboards and ios
so basically everything that makes apple unique
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>>60957617
I'm >>60957299

Fucking idiot.
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>>60957645
And????
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>>60956413
If money wasn't an issue i would buy macs but not ios devices. I used iphones for a long time but they have been surpassed by android devices for a while now.
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>>60957558
>I couldn't touch a Windows Laptop
The operating system you have installed on your laptop does not affect whether or not it is durable
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>>60957450
So they cost just as much as XZ Premium and S8+ except with a worse OS?
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>>60957657
Can you read?
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>>60957669
Or about as much as two OnePlus 3Ts, except that you'll get more battery life and performance out of just one 3T.
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I owned (and I still do) an iPod 5G (iirc) and went batcrazy. Although I remember the menu being fast and comfy, I won't repeat again because iTunes or iTunes "alternatives" lack of formats etc

For that matter, Rockbox was the best choice I did.
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>>60957701
Oh, and replying straight, no, I won't get anything apple related even if rich. There's enough brilliant Android items or hardware to satisfy me.
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>>60957681
Can you apple cuck?
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>>60957681
>t. iPakeet
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>>60956413
I had few macs, iphones and ipads. Now I have only imac 27 retina and macbook air 13. Iphones unfortunately have a shitty battery lifetime.
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>>60957558
how much do they pay you to spew this shit


I'm pretty ok with my blackberry curve, so I'd keep it despite the flaws or maybe upgrade to new one
replace my X201 with X220, get a T420, ssds in both, tune x220 for battery life, upgrade T420 for max power
I just have no need for apple products - I can't stand using new keyboards or touchscreens (though appleshit is probably the best of the lot in both cases, sans touchbar).
Anything apple does on the desktop doesnt fit my needs either - I'd be better served either building myself (which I enjoy) or ordering from a custom pc builder.


oh and if I had to spend a couple hundred grand on technology, im getting a motherfucking petabyte raid60 array for primo porn storage and the baddest xbmc library you ever saw


of course im speaking as if I hypothetically came in to a load of money.
If I was wealthy from day one I'd have been raised quite differently and I doubt I'd have cultivated such an interest in technology (so I'd probably use appleshit exclusively).
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I'm an investment lad with millions. Who cares if anyone believes me, I'm just another post, but - I don't like the design of Apple products. They look to try really hard, and I hate it.
I am building my own datacenter
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Honestly, if i did have so much money to spend i still wouldn't.

I'd still build my own
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What is the possibility for macbooks in future to be updated with mobile ryzen? Have mid 2012 retina and didn't feel at all the need to upgrade this year, but I would like to eventually in 2 years or so.
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Nah, it would be a thinkpad or dell latitude
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>>60956413
probably a non touchbar MacBook Pro for portability
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>>60956413
How many times are we going to have this thread?
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>>60958808
tbqh I get more gay guys come up to me in startbucks when Im using an iCuck device
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>>60956413
No. I already own a 15" MacBook Pro and have an Android phone with no intention of ever switching to iOS.
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>iPhone
fuck no
>Macbook
I used to want one, but they went to shit with upgradeability and USB C. Fuck this.
I fell for the used thinkpad meme, it's way cheaper, well built, upgradeable, has a decent display, good battery and it's probably faster as well since macbooks throttle to oblivion.
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>>60956413
No, a thinkpad is more comfy to use
Aluminium with sharp edges feels like shit
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ex-macbook pro 2015 and iPhone 7 user here: I deeply regret buying either.

>macbook pro 2015
- overheats and thermal throttles when doing things like exporting video or CAD
- OS is very restrictive with poor software support
- no gaymes

> iPhone 7
- piss poor battery life
- requires you use itunes which hangs, glitches, or throws out unknown errors at you half the time
- gets uncomfortably warm when playing games
- inaccurate colors
- no headphone jack, requires the dongle that glitches half the time
- iOS is missing a ton of useful features
- unremovable bloatware

I now have an XPS 15 and a Galaxy S7 active and couldn't be happier.

>tl;dr
Apple is still trash, don't waste your money on them.
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No.
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>>60956413
Lol no, i have plenty of cash that doesnt mean i will spent it on overpriced garbage
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Normally the people that own an apple product are medium-low class and thay are the majority of the people and they buy it because they thinks it's something exclusive and it's not..
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>>60959020
>OS is very restrictive with poor software support
this shows that you are clearly a liar.
>overheats and thermal throttles when doing things like exporting video
this too, most of rich youtubers like tech nigger or casey use it because it's superfast for that with optimized software.
> piss poor battery life
after two years I could believe but right now nope, liar
>requires you use itunes
it doesn't, liar
>gets uncomfortably warm when playing games
hahaha it has literally miles ahead chip which is preventing this, liar
>inaccurate colors
objectively one of the best colors(besides black),liar
>iOS is missing a ton of useful features
like?
I absolutely love XPS 15 but don't lie here we know you hadn't any of these two apple devices so go back to /pol/ this is the right place for fairytales.
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>>60959196
t. Delusional macfag
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>>60956413
MBP, maybe if it had a touchscreen. Infinite money I'd nab that XPS 15 with the touchscreen and discrete GPU.
iPhone or iMac? Absolutely not. I don't hate iPhones but they simply can't do as much and aren't as powerful as my Oneplus. And Apple desktops are absolute garbage-tier unupgradable shit, even if I do love the OS.
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>>60956546
so use a different window manager.

You know you can do that, right?
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>>60957612
>Adding or modifying features to fit your praticular use case is "ricing" now.
You really are a corporate slave. Jeez.
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>>60959235
My parents have a 5K iMac and it looks really nice but the idea of being stuck with that hardware forever is pretty shitty. If it had video input and could just be used as a 5K monitor as well, I would almost want one.
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>>60959196
>optimized software
lmao
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>>60956413
No, probably not. I'm not really interested in laptops or Apple's software.
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>>60956413
I would never own an iphone because it lacks a removable battery and headphone jack
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>>60959255
What I really want the most is a return to the old style Mac Pros that were basically just slightly overpriced hella powerful tower desktops that you could easily upgrade.I'm legitimately considering dual booting a Hackintosh system because it'd legitimately be superior to official Apple hardware in the long run when I can keep upgrading it.
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>>60956413
I would rather buy something that's able to sustain >800MHz for longer than a nanosecond.
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>>60957612
no, I mean writing patches for the stuff I use
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>>60956413
I wouldn't use them even for free. Unless they completely change and become usable that is, I don't care about brands.
>iPhone
No headphone jack, can't be used as a portable drive, it's useless for me.
>Macbook
All ultrabooks are a meme. Keyboard alone is a reason to not use them. I'm not a cripple so I can carry a full-sized laptop daily.
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>>60958851
this is honestly true. I'm a bit of a feminine guy to begin with but as soon as I got a mbp it's like I've given all the gays a green light.

so if you're into that Mac's a great option.
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>>60959196
>youtubers like tech nigger
tech nigger uses the trashcan computer which doesn't throttle. macbooks throttle like a motherfucker
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>>60959005
>fuck no
nice argument fag
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No once you step foot into apple ecosystem you become a prisoner
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>>60959947
Why the hell does he need to give an argument? OP asked a question and he responded.
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>>60959947
>would you buy thing
>no
>lol nice argument fag
?
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>>60959947
here are some arguments for you:
-requires iTunes for pretty much everything, I don't need any additional software with Android.
-designed to work with a Mac, which I won't buy per my original post
-iOS is constantly trailing android in terms of features
-NO FUCKING HEADPHONE JACK

I could live with the first three, but no headphone jack is a deal breaker.
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I'll be honest, if I were rich I would probably go full apple.

Of course, I would also probably own my dream PC.
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>>60959987
Imagine you got a car, but there's a tiny problem - it doesn't work.
>HURR WHAT A FAG, DOESN'T DRIVE HIS FREE CAR
I already have devices that do what I need. If I got some Apple devices I would keep using my devices, because Apple devices don't do what I need.
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>>60959196
How new are you?
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>>60959196
Let's run down the list

Android phones let you:
>have real encryption with no backdoors
>download over 100MB over mobile data
>install a third party app launcher and icons
>use it as a flash drive
>share any kind of file over wifi/bluetooth
>torrent via torrent clients in the playstore
>install apps outside the playstore
>modify a few system settings to increase performance and decrease battery drain
>manually control complex camera functions via third party apps
>natively browse files
>view better colors via amoled displays
>browse 4chan and natively open webms inside them via third party apps
>extract/browse archives
>add additional phone storage via a micro SD card
>replace the stock battery with a bigger one
>add widgets to your home screen
>access important functions by swiping down

ALL WITHOUT HAVING TO HACK YOUR PHONE

You can spout all the "lagdroid XDddd---" memes you want but Android phones truly are more advanced than itoddler phones and the reason why they hold over 90% of the global smartphone market share right now.
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>>60956413
I'm wealthy and the only time I bought an apple product was for my GF.
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>>60960310
did she let you smash?
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>>60960264
>"lagdroid XDddd---"
It still amazes me that iFags use this outdated meme. It's not 2011 anymore, OP3T and Google Pixel are pretty much as a smartphone can be these days and definetely faster than an iPhone, as evidenced by many YT videos.
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I have an early 2013 mac pro that I bought for 350$. At that price I just said fuck it and it's been perfect. No problems at all.
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>>60956431
And purchases like that are why you are a poor nigger.
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If I were rich, Id buy a Mac just to have one. Just because I could and because Id like to see how it is.
However, I would not totally adopt to Apple.
Id still buy a flag ship Android device for cellular. As well as build a very high end PC for gay-ming.
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>>60956413
Yes. There's a reason all the billionaires use iPhones and MBPs.

ZUckerberg, Brin, Page, Musk, Eric Schmidt... they all use iPhones and MBPs.
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>>60956413
I bought a year old macbook pro for $1000 bucks on craigslist. I'm pretty sure it was stolen because the owner left his mail logged in on it when he gave it to me and I read through everything, he was selling TONS of apple products on craigslist. But fuck it. It's worked great for $1000, and not too bad for the price 8gb ram, i7, ssd, retina screen.
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>>60956413
>>60960470
>>60960593

A large part of being wealthy is giving zero fucks, most people use apple because it's a standard, I recall being in a group being somewhat ostracized for having the only android. Apple follows somewhat the model as Facebook for adoption on conversion.

I recall using my mothers macbook air and it felt like a toy but I did notice that my surroundings noticed me more for having an object of desire

I also recall going in an Apple Store for the very first time several months ago and really felt quite violated for looking at apple watches and some products and nearly buying them out of sheer impulse.

Apple as a status symbol days are long gone in terms of video and audio production, still relevant but to a lesser degree of exclusivity and the iphone is a standard, the reason high profile ppl use it is for security since the zero days are the highest priced, all in all apple is a gimmick from Jobs journey in roodypoo land from a meditative revelation that through a closed space you can create somewhat of an infinite ecosystem.

The premise of intelligent design as a science has relevance but Apple is first and foremost a marketing company built on neutral esthetic so no I wouldn't buy Apple just for conformity and mainly ethical reasons. The correlation of monetary value to personality is overrated and above all that capacity gives you choice, understand freedom over obligation.
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>>60956413
Ahahahahahahah
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>>60956413
But I do own a mbp and an iPhone Anon. Though I spend most of the time on my Windows Thinkpad. The iPhone is sweet tho.
Also not wealthy. Maybe for eastern Europe but fuck you rich. That would be nice.
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>>60956413
Yes, money is the reason. I have enough of it, though growing up middle class without large sums of my own during childhood shaped the man I am today. By nature I'm cheap but also conscious of my and the environments health. It's become a part of my character and as a result, find it difficult to justify the price of such a computer. Should I change my mind in the future, it would be a decision arrived at with excess deliberation lasting several years, but no more than three.
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>>60956413
If I had the money I'd buy a Latitude with a quad-core but I'd rather wait for Ryzen APUs.
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>>60956413
>If an overpriced, shitty item suddenly becomes not overpriced, is it still shitty?

No thanks, anon. I'd rather use my FOSS Linux distro. It just werks for me and I don't feel like a tool for using it.
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>>60960264
Okay dude I'm just as much of an Android fan as the next guy but this needs some auditing.
Android has real encryption, yes, but so do iPhones. Remember the whole Cupertino debacle? It took the U.S. Government how long and how many millions of dollars spent just to open a single iPhone, and then the guys who finally cracked it basically said that the crack they used was (A) specific to the 5C and (B) had already been patched by iOS 8 long before they even released the specs of the crack.
iPhones are definitely at least as secure as Android.
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>>60956413
No fucking way. No matter how much money you apple is a cult of shitty, unrepairable hipster garbage. I'd get a new maxed out desktop and maxed out X1 carbon every year.
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>>60961411
That whole thing was fake. It was conceived by the government and apple to renew trust in storing criminal data on your cellphone tricking you into thinking every electronic device isn't actually backdoored
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Right now I've got about 10 grand of spare/disposable cash
I've just never liked OSX, everything about it seems so counter intuitive.
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>>60961472
What's it like being poor?
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>when an entire board is dumber than a Filthy Frank's video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSV1UFbhJ-A
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If I was wealthy, I'd be a mega NEET. Hence I'd have no need of an iPhone or a macbook pro. And If I wanted to run OS X, I wouldn't buy an iMac or Mac pro, I'd just build a really nice hackintosh.
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>>60956413
Be honest apple fans --- if you were wealthy, would you stop believe you biggest accomplishment is had Apple products. ?

If you're totally honest - can you admit that money is the only thing keeping you from still post about Apple begin best because are losers working in shitty jobs and need some status because, your aren't creative,productive,leads or successful?
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>>60957484
>windows update compared to updates on macOS
>quartz compared to dwm
>aqua compared to explorer (environment)
>itunes compared to windows media player
>windows calculator can't even show correct results
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista-windows_programs/wrong-answer-from-windows-calculator/8fbd010a-54b5-461c-b128-0883993346eb
AHAHAHAHAHAHHA
both finder and the explorer file manager are shit I'll give you that but at least finder has tabs and color based tags :^)
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>>60960146
>>60959020
If I were to get a laptop I'd get the newest XPS 13 nothing else. But I see this meme constantly popping up and it's kinda bullshit, the only things that hold up to be true in this picture are the shitty cords (yes they do wear easily) and the new CEO being a retard. This picture just shows some cherry picked faulty devices, in fact any device with a lithium battery has a risk of exploding and potentially harming the user. Overheating is something that only happens in some models (and I've even read most notebookcheck reviews); the battery life being less than expected mostly comes from someone upgrading a older model to the latest OSX version.
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>>60956413
Richfag here.
No, Apple products are shit. The only time I would use an Apple product is if someone gave it to me for free.
Richfags don't engage in conspicuous consumption.
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>>60956413
No. MacBooks have shit keyboards and other issues that prevent me from buying them and iPhones don't have keyboards.
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I have a 2012 15" rMBP that is pretty nice for many things, and I also have an ancient home-built desktop running Win7 that is my main get-shit-done machine. Honestly, neither of these is very satisfying and I'd really like to get something newer, but it seems like there are no good options.
There are just too many damn windows apps that I need that won't run on OSX or loonix. But Win10 is absolute fucking cancer, I totally hate it and everything MS has done post Win7. So I can't see buying a windows machine, but I can't see buying an Apple product either.
It sucks that computers were ultimately faster (relative to what you were doing) and far more useful 20 years ago than they are today.
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>>60956413
Stupid faggot I would build custom pc and use Sony/ S8. Can't even download music directly to the phone on iOS.

I've seen some Christian macfags who are just as cringey as you
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If I had Apple money I'd spend it on an equivalent hardware system and pay someone to set Linux up on it and make it feel comfy, instead of the usual pain in the ass that configuring a new Linux install is. Best of both worlds.
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>>60962372
>Richfags don't engage in conspicuous consumption.
TOP JEJ
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>>60956413
No why would I buy shit?
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>>60962445
How do you think they get rich
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>>60960756
and thats why advertising company is better, right?
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>>60956413
No, my laptop was almost as expensive as a Macbook but I choose to not buy it because its a throttling piece of trash that needs dongles to plug anything into it. kys shill
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No. I was provided one for work and I do not like it. The trackpad is annoying to use compared to the trackpoint I had on my X220 and the battery life is only marginally better.

The only nice aspect is the screen ppi, that's about it.

Thankfully my manager said I can request a new thinkpad instead and trade this one out.
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>>60956413
If I was genuinely wealthy I would go full freetard with a librebooted T420 and not give a fuck.
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I'm getting tired of these Apple-hating cocksuckers.

You would never see similar threads being created for hating on the newest Mercedes Benz S class or any other premium product from any category of products that are available on Earth. Mainly because those categories cannot be touched by these broke stupid fucks.

Apple is the Mercedes Benz of the hw/sw sector while your plastic fantastic acer/lenovo/you-name-it are the riced up cars that run faster but are built like fucking dog shit and lose their value to a negative number as soon as you buy them.

I'm glad that there's Apple in the tech sector, otherwise i would be forced to buy trash with:

Windows Malware 10 (Botnet, WannaCry, paranoia that comes with the lack of security of OS)
Coil Whine (Dell XPS)
Wobbling base (Dell XPS)
Glitchy Display (Dell XPS)
Shit speakers (Dell XPS and most of the laptops)
Terrible mushy keyboards (most of the laptops)
Plastic (most of the laptops)
Sleep of Death (Surface devices)
Buggy tablet mode (Surface devices)

and i could go on and on for ever and ever
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>>60965276
>t. apple worshipping cocksucker

Apple is literally a fucking Ford Pinto with a fake Ferrari body kit.
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>>60956481
>you must be put off you don't but Apple products lololol
>you spent more than me skillet bring in welfare, and didn't get a shit colour with no headphone jack?
>must bea nigger!!!
fucking what, these threads are cancer
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Applelfaggots are indeed poor and retarded.
Even with the resale value factored in, they still lost more money than if they just bought a regular computer with the same specs.

XPS 13:
$899 new
$450 in 3 years
$449 loss

MBP 13
$1799
$950 in 3 years
$849 loss
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>>60956589
> my biggest accomplishment in life is that I am a useless leech to society and get to brag about it in an anonymous image board. I did it, mom. Are you proud?
Pathetic existence is pathetic.
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>>60966014
How do I run OSX on that laptop? Also how does the warranty and support compare?
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>>60966275
>t. iToddler
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>>60966275
>t. iToddler
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>>60956413
No
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>>60966014

Look at what you're buying with the Dell XPS 13 (and 15)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blyswNKEPEY&hd=1

LMFAO!
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>>60966349
Paid applel shill. Apple is scared of Dell these days.
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>>60956511
this.

would be too busy free fall masturbating or mountain top raving
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>>60956413

Nope. Apple products have awful Wifi antennas. They suck. Like, really really suck.

I hate my iphone. Buddy has Samsung. We're out in the middle of the lake. I pick up like 1 house with 1 bar, he picks up like 20 of them.

The gain on apple products suck. I'm really surprised Apple doesn't fix this.

If they did fix it, maybe. Maybe.
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>>60966349
>t. mactoddler
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>>60966407
>Nope. Apple products have awful Wifi antennas.
This.

Apple trash is garbage. All they care about is how well it runs Angry Birds. They don't give a shit about even basic features.
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>>60966376

I bet Tim Cook laughed like a hyena while reading about the newest Dell XPS's

Coil Whine -
Shit Trackpad -
Terrible audio quality -
The base wobbles on flat surfaces lol -
The 4k display reduces the battery to 4-5 hours -
The USB type C ports are not full bandwidth -
The display has a poor response times (ghosting/bluring) along with some other issues -
The webcam is placed right under your fucking nutsack lmfao -
The display has 350 nits compared to MacBook's 510. ( The display becomes a mirror while working outside) -
The design looks outdated -
Comes with Botnet Malware 10 Pro

And the last one:

It's a fucking piece of shit made for saggy balled pajeets that live with their mothers. -
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>>60965276
>2006-2015
>trackpad impossible to click near upper edge
>extremely loose near bottom edge
>overall flimsy diving board piece of shit
>even applel admitted it's shit and went back to solid non-click touchpads
>still has no real buttons
>relies on pressure sensitive gimmick bullshit
>if you press too lightly or too hard it does something completely different than what you intended
>shit tier 1mm travel chiclet kb
>OSX is a steaming pile of shit with horrendous battery management
>applel's solution is to cram in a massive heavy 95WHr battery to make up for it
>even XXXTREME GAMER cancer like razer blade with 4X the CPU/GPU power and 70WHr battery matches it in battery life in same tasks
>gets BTFO by 55WHr Yoga 2 in battery life in same tasks
>the battery takes up the space where a cooling system would've been in a laptop not designed by the world's thinnest and lightest gay hipsters
>overheats constantly from abysmal crippled cooling system
>throttles to 800mhz due to chronic overheating problems
>retina meme for "pros" have have <70% aRGB
>gloss mirror coating impossible to use with overhead lighting
>blurry as shit retina meme scaling
>shitbook air even worse with glossy 1366x768 TN eye cancer
>systemic battery explosion problems for over a decade

>2016+
https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/03/2016-macbook-pro-thunderbolt-compatibility-issues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYVjIjBMx6o
>can't use any existing TB3 devices
>can't use USB and wifi at the same time
>ultra shit tier zero travel kb
>keyboard louder than WWII cricket
>memetouch emojibar
>no USB-A
>no escape
>soldered ram
>soldered SSD
>tamper tape on battery screws
>applel falls for their own thin meme and uses 54WH battery
>2 hour battery life

http://www.howtogeek.com/198043/how-to-merge-folders-on-mac-os-x-without-losing-all-your-files-seriously
>it's 2017 and moving folders around in finder will STILL cause massive data loss

>macshit is good
Can we finally put an end to this meme?
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>>60956432
unix is macos without all the negatives
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>>60966501
>no source
Yep, iToddler indeed
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>>60966643

Are you sure, scumbag ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5_4AqJymQ4&hd=1

Now please don't make me search for the rest of the sources, dickhead! I can't afford to have my time wasted by some random flea-carrying Rakesh from a pakistani hole
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>>60966534
Christ Apple is a fucking joke.
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>>60966534
This guy spamming this on every thread.
Do you have life?
And it's not even true but you know so I hope other aren't stupid enough to fall into this trap.
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>>60966788
>>60966765
>>60966722
>t. iPajeets

All you guys are proving is that Apple has a huge marketing budget, not that it's a surprise or anything.
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>>60966788
>i don't like true facts about my fruit religion so i'll pretend they're not true

Mactoddlerism.
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>>60958851
>>60959822

And what device do you need to attract.. girls? Or at least qt trans.. doesn't it exist? It isn't fair.

btw I have a T60
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I work for apple.
I think Mac devices are fine, they're very pretty and Mac OS is very intuitive and pretty.

HOWEVER. Their only use case is for browsing the internet and using photoshop. If you want to do anything intensive you have to bootcamp into windows.

I currently use a 13 inch MacBook as my main device hooked up to a 34 inch ROG348Q because my x2 1080ti system is busy mining crypto currency.

My goal is that after...4 months I can just buy a 15 inch and be done with it, however I only want the 15 inch because this stupid company has made me into a shill and since I use their stupid devices for work it's very hard to switch back to windows.

Don't buy apple shit dudes, apple hates you and knows our products are shit. Why do you think we give you a 1 year warranty and you have to buy anything longer? We know that all of our devices break after 1 1/2 years.
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>>60956413
If I were wealthier, I'd buy a new Macbook
If I were wealthier, I'd not buy a new iPhone though.

There is nothing wrong with my old phone and nothing that a new iPhone could provide me that my current phone does not.
Wealthy people do not stay wealthy by spending all their money on frivolous shit.

Remember, when Warren Buffet took Bill Gates to lunch, they went to McDonalds and Buffet used a coupon.
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>>60966824
>works for apple
>doesn't know they have a two year warranty as standard

I don't think you work for Apple, you're not even a good larper.
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>>60966846
If you think you have a two year standard warranty you're stupid.

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/S6124LL/A/applecare-plus-for-macbook-macbook-air

Feel stupid.
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>>60966846
It's 1 year limited warranty on all products they sell.
In the UK or Australia, they have 2 year Statutory Warranty enforced by the Government.
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no, i'd buy the most expensive option for the t570, its like $3000 new and it looks cool.
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>>60960264
the reason they hold over 90% is because of welfare dot heads in india. also, apple's ACCESSORY department is worth more than samsung's ENTIRE mobile department. stay mad you minimum wage slave

also
>modify a few system settings to increase performance and decrease battery drain

hurts your argument here, brain dead faggot
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I have an iPhone. I just hate using Macs. Botnet 10 masterace.
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>>60956413
No because you don't get/stay wealthy by wasting money.
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>>60959020
>iphone 7
>unremovable bloatware
>...
>galaxy s7
jej
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>>60966977
This, but as soon as a good windows phone comes out, especially if they can run x86 programs eventually, I'm fucking GONE.
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>>60956413
Nah, I'd rather go for a XPS 13 or a ThinkPad Carbon, bot are at the same price range and suit me better.
As for a phone, I'd probably go for the newest Sony compact, I hate those >5" phones
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>>60967010
I'd rather they stop making phones thinner, and use the "old width" they used to use, as battery space, and keep the screen small so it lasts for fucking ever.
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>>60967004
Soon.
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>>60967036
http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_204428.html
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>>60956413
I don't buy apple products because I'm not retarded
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>>60966580
OS X is UNIX
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No lol. If I were wealthy I could afford luxury products, not mass-produced Apple memes.
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>>60967247
>fagintosh
>not a single line of unix code

>unix
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>>60956413
If i was rich I would not need a computer that's for my assistant.
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>>60956431
How long did it take you to save that much?
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>>60967004
>>60967066
Windows 10 ARM will never be good
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>>60956413
If i were wealthy i'd get an MBA and that would be it. The portability of that thing with modern specs would finally replace my current EDC, X230. Anything else by Apple is just screwed up.
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>>60967422
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>>60967293
Every version since 10.5 on Intel is UNIX certified.
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>>60967482
>t. mactoddler
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I actually unironically wouldn't, fuck that shit
Sure, macbooks are super thin and shit, buy I'd rather have a thicker, heavier laptop with superior performance. I'd use Linux anyway, so no need for Apple machines
And Android gives a lot more control over your phone than iOS does
Moreover, you make buying Apple sound like the thing a middle-class poorfag would do to show off while starving because of the costs. You're a really bad shill, you know that? 0.05 rupees have been subtracted from your iTunes account.
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>>60956413
I used to sell Apple products and based on things that I saw during my time doing that I would not recommend them to anyone.

Most people in 2017 don't even NEED Apple products at all but they sure did back in the 1980's and 1990's and the idea just stuck. These days people just WANT Apple products that are just like any other cheap piece of garbage you can buy but the brand recognition they have now gives them the ability to sell the cheap things with premium price.

It's sad really because they used to innovate (or steal ideas and make them popular) that was a good thing. Now all they do is marketing and shady business practice.

Back in the day I would have bought Apple products when they gave real benefits over other products on the market and the price was justified. These days I could buy them but won't, there is just no sense in it other than being labelled as a "creative person" when you have one or more of them.

Having a $3000 machine to use facebook does not make you creative, just like spending 3000 hours in WoW does not make you a programmer.

>tldr No, I use my money for things really worth buying.
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>>60967658
>t. clueless shitposter
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so i can get a 15" MBP with TB for about 1.5k, should i go for it?
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>>60967926
>look at our shitty piece of paper for a hackjob fagOS that's literally worse than something hobbyists put together in their free time
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>>60967961
see
>>60966534
>>60966411
>>60960146
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>>60967968
Still UNIX whether you like it or not
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>>60960358
No they are still slower, go watch the youtube videos you claim. inb4 someone posts that cherrypicked webm
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>>60967961
Yes
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>>60967437
No problems there if i'm planning to use W10 LTSB on it
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>>60968368
>pay 3x price for throttlebook that performs worse than walmart trash
>and then install w10 on it
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No, I thoroughly dislike the keyboards and trackpads.
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If I were wealthy I'd definitely buy a fully optioned MBP, but not a fucking chance I'd use an iPhone.

I like things that have terminals.
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>>60956438
csgo suck
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>>60956431
>>60956589
>>60956609
How do you get neetbux?
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>>60956413
>if you were wealthy
there's nicer things to own if money wasn't an issue
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>>60969560
spply for ssi
shit like ptsd and social anxiety can be 400 bucks a month plus rent
if you're denied and have see the doctor they recommended you can literally sue and get extra money
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>>60969581
Do I need to go to a doctor first, or can I just apply without any proof?
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>>60956481
I go to work every day , to pay taxes so people like you can live doing nothning. You better vote for more gibs you human waste.

How long before working people realize we are being scamed.
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>>60969600
you'll have to go to a doctor they send you to to confirm anything
if you had welfare as a kid and took adhd medicine you're gold though
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>>60969617
Fuggg, am I out of luck then? I can't go to the doctors because I have social anxiety
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>>60969630
here's what happens with ssi

you call and make an appointment, solid month for this to happen
the appointment will be an application for ssi and ssdi
don't worry about ssdi unless you can claim a parents that worked their entire life
you'll go through why you can't work, who diagnosed you can't work, what you have that stops you from working blah blah blah, 30-40 minutes. just need doctor's names and dates
you'll get a ssdi rejection confirmation in the mail alongside the ssi doctor's appointment
you go and see the doctor, you'll probably pass if you had it diagnosed as a kid
if you don't you might be rejcted
you'll probably be rejected anyways though
and then hire a lawyer who takes 10% of your build up claim (x amount of money every month since you filed for ssi)
wait 5 months
now you're a worthless neet
ps I'm not a neet but I file your claims
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>>60969676
also
the interview is done over the phone
also also
don't screen shot my shit and use it as your neet bible
do some research
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>>60956413
>wealthy to buy a macbook
Didn't realize you people were so poor
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>>60957348

Wincucks are an amazing breed.
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>>60956413
I use Windows on desktop so I like the continuity
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No, my work gave me the option between a fully loaded XPS 15 or MacBook Pro. I went with the XPS.
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Nope if I were loaded I'd build computers daily, I'd still have no need for anything Apple.

plus i like customization
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>>60969536
git gud
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Maybe. They have started to add features that I'm looking for in laptops or phones. Mainly front facing speakers.

But then my autism for customization would hit a brick wall when using iOS.

I would probably still use HTCs phones as a result.
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I would own an iPhone. They appear more secure/respectful of privacy than Androids. Macbook though, fuck no. I just sold my macbook to buy a thinkpad. Proprietary wireless hardware makes macs nightmarish with linux. Updated to a new kernel which completely fucked not only wireless, but ethernet too.
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>>60956413
No. I use a hackintosh to develop for iOS but I dual boot at every opportunity. macOS was great 10 years ago, and it still feels like it's 10 years ago when using macOS. It's a disaster and has been left for dead since roughly after the initial iPhone.

I wouldn't advise anyone to buy an iPhone and that's where I make all of my money.
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>>60956413
I'd much sooner get a maxed out ThinkPad P50 or P70.
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>>60958808
>apple products are not special in any way
apple products are objectively worse
that makes them special
and that makes you special for using them
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>>60965276
>comparing apple to mercedes
Computers are different from cars. A more apt comparison using cars would need to be hypothetical. For example, say we live in a world where its very easy to build a complete car, and chose exactly what firmware you want it to use. Its also relatively inexpensive, and building your own car has significant advantages such as less restrictions on how you may use your car. You can build a car which is extremely fast, upgradeable, and easy to repair. Its very customizable, so each one is unique to its owner. But there's this company that sells pre-built cars where the whole thing is ready to use. There is a downside to this car though. It isn't fast, you can't drive it where you want, its impossible to upgrade, and difficult to repair on your own. You might be thinking, "well surely it must be cheap", but you would be wrong. This car is fucking expensive because people don't want to put in the effort to understand the basics of a machine everyone uses on a constant day to day basis (not even the difference between the engine and the gas tank).
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>>60970803
It seems like you're suggesting most people are foolish or ignorant for not becoming technologically adept, but consider this.

Almost everybody on this board uses a car every day. I obviously have no hard data to state this as fact, but I would be willing to bet, and I'm sure you would agree, that most of the geeks on this board couldn't take apart/fix/modify anything on their cars.

Most of the population in the developed world uses both computers and cars every day. Not many people are beyond the novice level of both categories.
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>>60956413

You don't need to be wealthy to own Apple products. Iphone SE or Iphone 6 is affordable. You can easily afford Macbook airs, Ipad airs too. On top of this, your employer could supply you a iphone. I don't really understand this meme. It's even more hilarious that people actual think owning apple products is a signature of wealth. Especially when a min wag worker could afford a mac if they live with their parents, or has a roommate.
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>>60970832
>i'm a brainlet so everyone must be a brainlet
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>>60970832
I'll bet there are many more people in the world who can do mechanical work on their cars than there are people who can work on their computers.
PC nerds are a very small percentage of the population. They are not representative of the PC-using population at all.
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>>60970832
>>60970961
Cars are literally the easiest shit in the world to repair.

The only thing preventing more people from servicing their own cars is lack of tools, a lift, and the hassle of toxic waste disposal.
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>>60956413
I'd buy them for developing apps.

And then I'd never bother to use them to develop apps, because I'd be rich. They might look nice on the shelf. Total adoption? No way, fag.
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>>60956413
If i was wealthy, id get someone to design a custom laptop....

Why would I buy off the shelf?
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>>60956413
>you don't like mac because you can't afford it.

or maybe I just don't like TYPING ON SHEET METAL

I also like ports and hardware that doesn't throttle

besides spending lots of money on a laptop is waste for anyone who doesn't use it all the time. I would much rather get a cheap notebook that gets 10+ hours battery life or an old business laptop and spend that money on my desktop/home where I actually spend time enjoying "tech things"
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>>60956413
I would own them but I probably wouldn't use them a lot.
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>>60969616
you are paying taxes so that people like him don't break into your home
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>>60957558
>For most adults, an iPhone is perfect because it does exactly what they need

a fucking dumbphone from the early 2000s does everything most adults need. a smartphone is a casual device no matter who makes it or what OS it runs. it's social media bullshit, there is no escaping that fact. which is why it's so dumb for people to argue about which phone is better. they call all open your bullshit social apps fine at this point.

>paying $800 so your social app opens .05 seconds faster even though the battery won't get you through a day.
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If I were incredibly wealthy, I still would not be interested in Apple products.
The pricing between the Galaxy S8 and the iPhone 7 with a one or two year contract is identical in my market, and the S8 actually costs $80 CAD more to buy outright. The S8 is my current phone of choice, and more money would not change that.
As for a MacBook, I'm really not interested in laptops. I find a phone or tablet to be a better portable entertainment device, and a desktop to be better at actually getting things done. If I were in the market for a laptop, it would most likely be an Asus. Either a Zenbook 3 for something small and super portable, or a ROG Zephyrus for something more powerful that doesn't double as a boat anchor.
Stationary computers? Apple offers a non-upgradable all-in-one in the form of the iMac and the new iMac Pro, but that form factor has never appealed to me. If I'm looking to upgrade my system, I'd rather have more options than "Chuck the whole thing, monitor included, in the trash and buy a new one." Regardless of wealth, that kind of thinking is just wasteful, especially if all I want is a new CPU or more RAM. They also offer the Mac Pro, but it is almost as limited in it's upgradability as the all-in-ones . It is also significantly out of date, not having had an update for several years. Despite this, it is still selling for the same price it was when the components were considered current generation. Again, staying wealthy would require me to look at the facts and determine that it is not a smart use of my money. Thinking about it rationally, my choice of stationary computer would be the same as it is now: a system assembled from components of my choice, by my own two hands. This would ensure that I get exactly what I want without paying extra for anything that I don't have a need or desire for. The only decision that would change with more wealth would be my performance targets and the budget that I would be willing to spend to achieve them.
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if i was wealthy i wouldnt need any of that shit id be too busy travelinf around the world and meeting new people
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>>60956413
it's not about not being able to afford them (i could), it's about not really having any interest in paying a premium for the brand.

plus i don't like the company itself.
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>>60956413
No. Apple product are a botnet.
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This is how confirmation bias works. When a broke stupid fuck sits in front of a device he cannot afford, he immediately starts looking for the tiniest errors so that he could justify the purchase of the inferior device that's next to it.

Show me a laptop that comes close to the MacBook Pro when it comes to build quality . I dare you, motherfucker!

The only thing to cry about is the fact that the MBP doesn't have 16gb ram and a better video card. That's it. But guess fucking what, i don't need more than 16gb ram and i don't game. , even though MBP does great at playing the last gen games - you can see countless of vids on the youtube.

The next best device after the MBP is the Dell XPS (not the dual core pieces of shit Surfaces), which is by far an inferior product even with the higher specs.

>Coil Whine -
>Shit Trackpad -
>Terrible audio quality -
>The base wobbles on flat surfaces lol -
>The 4k display reduces the battery to 4-5 hours -
>The USB type C ports are not full bandwidth -
>The display has a poor response times (ghosting/bluring) along with some other issues -
>The webcam is placed right under your fucking nutsack lmfao -
>The display has 350 nits compared to MacBook's 510. ( The display becomes a mirror while working outside) -
>The design looks outdated -
>Comes with Botnet Malware 10 Pro

These design issues are unacceptable for a device like Dell which costs 2500 when maxed out.

GTFO!
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>>60972375
>doesn't have 16gb ram

Correction - "doesn't come with a 32 gb ram version"
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>>60956413
I'd be an idiot with a gaymen laptop.
thank god my old laptop broke down and and I was coming up a bit too short to get any low end consumer shit so I ended up buying a thinkpad.
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>>60956413
I already own an iPhone. Macbooks are useless. My XPS-15 already looks better and has a better display than any laptop apple makes. They still have "retjna" shit while the PC maker has already moved onto 4K laptops and even OLED panels. Money has nothing to do with it.
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>>60972375
Even if I had the money, why would I spend them on an inferior product that cannot be repaired by the end-user?
You've got all this talk going on about confirmation bias, but in the end you've got cognitive dissonance.
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>>60956413
If I had so much wealth that I could just have one to screw around with, yeah certainly. Mac's are neat, but they're expensive, don't play games, and aren't upgradeable. If money doesn't matter, value doesn't matter. If value doesn't matter Mac's are cool.
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>>60972375
Not to seem like I'm defending Windows, but MacOS is also a botnet. Maybe not for big brother, but Tim Cook needs to masturbate to something.
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>>60972494

The reason why i'm switching to MacOS after using Botnet Malware XP-7-10 for 13 years is because i'm sure that MacOS is by far the better OS when it comes to security.

I just want to hold my sensitive files and my altcoin wallets without having to wake up in the middle of the night panicking and sweating.

I don't have a problem with Tim Cook wanting to see my big ballsack. It would be an issue if he wanted to sell my ballsack photos to other companies like what ms, google and the rest are doing.
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hahaha no
if i had the money to spend on apple products, i'd instead be buying a new flagship from someone else and a new Ryzen-based desktop

i would however get mum a newer macbook pro and a time machine-compatible NAS for her

she's bad at technology
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>>60972872
>security
not really
also the mac journaled file system is still an unstable piece of shit that should never be used to store important information
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yup, the continuity feature alone makes it a desirable feature and if i can get all apple to work with each other then it's pretty cool. no more lugging around devices and trying to get cross platforms to work.
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>>60956438
if you're buying a laptop for the specs you're an autist
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>>60956413

Nope,

I despise the closed nature of their platform.
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