Everyone hates Discord. Us /g/entoomen should make our own

Who's paying for the servers?
Discord is backed by chinese botnet, how do you expect to compete with chinese botnet?

>>60944616
Well if it ever got to the point where it needed large-scale servers that can be dealt with then. Mainly this could just be a platform for /g/entoomen who don't agree with Discord's practices.

>>60944599
there are tons of free oss irc and making own irc is like 5 minutes

>>60944599
What do you like in discord that isn't in IRC.

>>60944648
It's a /g/ project, the point is teamwork and learning experience, not to actually produce a competitive product. Also Discord is completely separate to IRC.

>>60944655
Voice chat, for one.

>>60944616
exactly, chinese botnet kicks ass. why would you even want to compete. china forever!

>>60944599
we need a logo

Open fire jabber is open source gchat, for everything else there's irc.

Logo is first priority

>>60944616
Users should host their own servers. A centralized server is never optimal. Hosts could then implement channels and subchannels.

>>60944648
If you want to decrown Discord multimedia or multimedia expansion needs to be supported on servers or at least client applications. Servers need to support voice chat.

>>60945113
>>60945134
Perhaps the best solution is a nominal amount of hosted servers, with easy set-up for users who want to roll their own.

I thought /g/ already made some FOSS communication app.

>>60945470
You think of Tox.
The group chat feature there is underdeveloped to handle public chatting. It was clearly made to supplement chatting with people that are already in your friends list, not directly chat with strangers.

>>60945113
>Teamspeak

>>60945403
Well it's obvious that dev servers are needed to show off the system to new users. But those should be in no way a substitute to user hosted dedicated servers.

>>60946793
>multimedia

>>60944684
>Voice chat
Mumble teamspeak skype hangouts
There, four alternatives without even thinking.

>>60944599
Gentoomen already have better ways to communicate

>>60944616
>implying you need a shit ton of servers
We could go full P2P and let the users use their bandwidth for communication. Only thing that needs hosting is some sort of persistence for storing user accounts and room configuration. Few bytes of JSON isn't such a big deal. All the messages and voice communications would go through WebRTC so no great bandwidth is required.

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Here is our logo.

Or instead of starting a new project, contribute to one that exists and is on the right track:
http://matrix.org/
I say this as someone who previously worked on Tox.

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>>60947025
Way ahead of you actually.

There's already a /g/ Matrix server up at Banter City, you can check out our guest accessible rooms like #general:banter.city to get a feel for things:

https://riot.im/app/#/room/#general:banter.city

If you decide to register from Riot, just remember to tick "Custom Server" and put https://banter.city as your Home Server URL.

>>60947064
Nice, I'll check it out.

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>>60947064

>>60944599
>"EVERYONE" hates Discord
>i know! Let's ask a worthless cellphone/OS-trolling imageboard to contribute to an already fragmented market, because REEEEEE NORMIES, amirite?

>>60944599
orbit.chat
full oss

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>>60944916
you're welcome

if gnunet, ethereal, ipfs and the like work for file transfer
why not making something dedicated for chat?
everyone hosts everything
everyone is free to create their own servers
etc. etc.

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Just wait until IPFS' pub-sub mechanism is done, then it's just a matter of building a frontend on top of it.

>>60947064
Riot's being weird as of late. The server is definitely up and federating.

Try the registration instructions posted earlier at https://riot.im/app/#/register and then you should be able to join our general chat from the room directory or doing /join #general:banter.city

There's also a desktop client, for the sake of convenience:

https://riot.im/desktop.html

The Matrix federation tester shows us up and running, don't know why Riot's web client is on the fritz.

https://matrix.org/federationtester/api/report?server_name=banter.city

>>60947451
What's the "pub-sub mechanism" and what does it need to be feature complete?

Is ipfs open source?

How can I contribute, what do I need to know?

What's wrong with Facebook chat?

Just kidding. How much bandwidth does voip eat?

>>60947507
Publish-Subscribe, real-time distributed message passing.
The current implementation is experimental and basically floods everyone subscribed to a subject which is very inefficient and doesn't scale. Work is being done on a much smarter routing algorithm but it's not ready yet. Although it is experimental it does work kind of well, see >>60947234

>Is ipfs open source?
Yes (MIT)

>How can I contribute, what do I need to know?
Go or JS if you want to work on an implementation, knowledge of distributed systems and network programming is a must. Good graph theory bases are a big plus.


>>60947565
>Just kidding. How much bandwidth does voip eat?
Very little, opus sounds great at very low bitrates.

>>60947451
would real time opus work over it?

>>60948127
Yeah, you can basically use it to stream whatever you want.

>>60946869
>skype

>>60947064
Riot really needs to implement a discord hook to get people weened off it. I'm not running yet ANOTHER fucking chat application.

>>60950094
There's bridge bots. Several, actually.

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>>60944762
>>60944916
was posted in a similar thread.
Voice Over Media

>>60947480
I already have an account on matrix.org and the desktop client. Feels like the federation isn't working... Are there any other rooms I could try?

>>60950094
Already exists: https://github.com/Half-Shot/matrix-appservice-discord

>>60953831
#minecraft:banter.city

I have no idea what's up. Will check it out some time later today, try and rejoin in 24 hours.

>>60954400
Working here with my own server

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It exists

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>>60947064
>>60947480

pleas get banter city working anon

>>60944599
what is matrix/riot
easy to set up with voip passthrough
open source
free
works well hosted on a orange/raspberry pi