I just listened to a Sam Harris podcast where a tech expert said

>>60907234
>sam harris
yes, kys nigger

>>60907234
Well iPhone is more secure because it more restrictes

>>60907234
what reasons did he give

Security now also talked about this some weeks ago

>>60907256
what can you do on an android that you cant on an iphone?

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>>60907282

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>>60907234
CIA docs proved that iPhone is miles ahead of Pajeetware's Androshit.

CIA had ZERO 0-days for iOS and 20+ 0-days for Androshit.

>>60907265
iPhones are harder to hack because they are more restricted. I don't think she gave a reason for the Chromebooks.

>>60907256
>"it more restrictes"
kill yourself

>>60907282
a bunch of shit that doesn't work very well that fanboys will point to in order to shit on iphone
for real tho, nothing important.

iOS locks down what you/apps you run have access to.
Android really doesn't, but it does allow a lot more freedom and you can do whatever the hell you want on it.

>>60907234
>Sam Harris

Why would you? Plenty of smug twats here to listen to and wager there are smarter here too.

>>60907447
He talks about issues most people are too afraid to touch (The problem with radical Islam, the left's inability to confront radical Islam, Trump's attacks on democracy, the problem with identity politics, etc) all with air tight logic. I also believe he has good intentions.

>>60907234
What's the point in posting your mom's photo for the thread about security?

iPhones are vastly more secure than Androids.

>>60907234
Yeah, yeah, I know, back to plebbit/r9gay/b/r/hm, but i really need that sauce.

Please.

>>60907282
Tether for free.

>>60907234
I don't know what is secure. But as you can see even in this thread, iOS users are generally less intelligent and more aggressive.

>>60907291
Upvoted.

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>>60907282
nothing, of course

>>60907308
Same reason on chrome book. Can't run fucking shit so it can't get hacked. iPhone isn't more or less secure than Android if you're just using the store on both

>>60907282
Have a consistently designed OS

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>>60907652
Kek

>>60907619
>Tether for free
what year is this?
Yea carriers were big dicks about several years ago. However, since they moved to data bucket plans, most of them allow you to tether since its a faster way to use up your bucket

>>60907234
Only reason iPhones are more secure is because they don't have a user accessible recovery mode or Fastboot or what ever so wiping them clean, retaining the oroginal data and using them as your own is not that easy.
Obviously all iPhones also have the fingerprint scanner and iCloud systems that help, but those are done on Android phones as well.
End of the day, if you have physical access to the device, it doesn't matter what measure of protection is in place, your data is screwed and phone is gone.

>>60907234

>Sam Harris
>everyone is to blame, except the jews

kys

>>60907618
Sage Tullis, or you know, just try the image search

You retards literally don't know what secure means

>>60907619

Tethering is still forced under special APNs whether you use Android or iPhone. It's impossible to escape that now with the modern Android phones because Google has introduced more lockdown with each update.

>>60907234

For the vast majority of the populace, yes. For power users no.

Because Apple controls so much of the service related to iPhone, with carriers limited to just dumb pipes, you have to break Apple to get at the phone's contents. For Android, you just have to find the weakest link, whether that be shitty Samsung/T-Mobile apps or unsecured third party apps.

But for power users who can actually monitor and control where their information is going, Android is a much more powerful platform BECAUSE it's a lot less restrictive.

At the very fucking least, if airplane mode fails, you can always take the battery out of an old Samsung or current LG phone. Good luck doing that with iPhones.

>>60907741
It's not unusual for iOS users.

>Sam Harris
tips fedora

>>60907759
'security' doesn't matter for normal users at all, nobody is burning real 0day on you, there's no reason

A full remote jailbreak on iOS or on Android is going to be worth 100k easily, if you aren't a nation state, you don't have anything worth stealing

>>60907704
iphones use Secure Element for Apple Pay
Android Pay does not

Physical access to an iphone, doesnt mean the data is accessible easily, or even at all. Providing that the phone is property setup

>>60907751
no dude, you're flat out wrong

this is about system level exploits.

android is really lacking in terms of system level security hardening, basic kernel self protection stuff is missing, just look at all the work the copperheadOS guys have to put it to make the nexus devices hardened.

whereas iphones are literally designed with that as one of the main features. Secure Enclave, FDE by default since like forever. there's a reason the jailbreak scene is so secretive and also incredibly slow paced in the ios world.

>>60907234
>tech expert said iPhones were more secure

More secure against what? More secure against whom?

You know what's even more "secure" than an iPhone? Encrypting all of your data with an OTP, then burning the OTP.

>>60907813
>android is really lacking in terms of system level security hardening, basic kernel self protection stuff is missing, just look at all the work the copperheadOS guys have to put it to make the nexus devices hardened.

That was by design. Google wanted to take advantage of community ideas and incorporate them into official Android. They didn't originally want to make Android open source, but had to do it out of necessity to compete with Apple since they were so far behind. The OEMs only agreed to use Android when they realized not doing so would allow Apple to monopolize the phone market.

Newer Android versions incorporate features from the community while introducing system lockdowns. Google identified good ideas that sprung up and bought them out (like Waze). Cyanogen went bankrupt because it was too similar to Android and couldn't innovate in a way that couldn't simply be copied.

Android has become more restrictive, mostly at the urging of Samsung, because Samsung's bottom line is affected by Apple. Modding of Samsung phones has basically been reduced to "root access" and "flashing LineageOS". There's little more than that anymore.

I think that's most likely true, unless we're talking about state-sponsored attackers.

>>60907234
He's right, but fucking what? The NSA will see all my shitposting on Twitter and all my emails to a Googlegroups mailing list. Just tape your camera and your mic. Install some BSD if you wish to.

>>60907562
>air tight logic
Ayy lmao.
Nigga doesn't understand one bit of philosophy, and this worldview is just old-school utilitarianism with brain scan woo, while furiously denying it is so.
Also is-ought, open-question argument, etc.
Seriously, find someone better or read some old philosophers.

>>60907282
Install apps from third party sources by enabling it in the settings. That is inherently less secure. I love the feature, but it's a security risk nonetheless.

>>60907940
>You know what's even more "secure" than an iPhone? Encrypting all of your data with an OTP, then burning the OTP.
I hear good things about "Write-Only Memory".

He's right?
Locked down devices are usually safer.

>>60909840
he beat chomsky however

>>60907234
>tech expert

>>60907234
Of course something that is more locked down will have less vulnerabilities to exploit and the OS that is less popular will have less people trying to make malware for it. It is irrelevant unless you are dumb enough to get viruses.

>>60907282
Tried to help a friend analyse wifi. iPhones can only speedtest but they don't enable the user to read signal. To my knowledge anyway.

>>60907562
People aren't too afraid to talk about those things. He's just super anti religious to the point where his ego forces him to denounce it because hes on a self-righteous mission to destroy the religions that he feels he's smarter than.

Hes a smug twat and he'll leave no legacy outside of book sales. His ego runs the show as much as he pretends it doesn't.