It is good thing PowerPC is dead. But why ARM still exists, when

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All benchmarks prove that ARM is pure garbage.

I want to play gta 5 on a smartphone. I know a phone like Samsung galaxy s8 can handle it because similar PC hardware can.

>>60896581
how about power usage?

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>>60896610

>>60896625
Modern Intel Atoms are low power. I think there is just conspiracy against Intel among smartphone producers.

>>60896523
>x86 is good enough for embedded

Except it's not.
x86 is still nowhere near ARM in performance/watt.

>>60896610
>he's really comparing arm to x86
Anon... I...

>>60896523
Intel tried x86 with tablets and similarly priced arm processors outperformed them in both power consumption and performance

>>60896669
wrong
http://vanshardware.com/2010/08/mirror-the-coming-war-arm-versus-x86/

>>60896661
Amd should make a low power apu for the mobile market, intel jew can fuck off

>>60896523
Modern x86 is essentially RISC with bloated instruction decoder (well, not exactly, but that's the TL;DR version), which gives "true" RISC inherent advantage. Some intel CPUs are even bottlenecked by the decoder.

>>60896658
>>60896727
https://youtu.be/t95lz5YHbXQ
This thing has around 200 gflops and can run gta 5. S8 has 567 gflops.

>>60896523
It's cheap, easy, and efficient. "Benchmarks" on fucking mobile toys are irrelevant.

>>60896864
>Intel is bad jew. Benchmarks are irrelevant.
Typical alt-right logic.

>>60896523
>tfw you're morning the death of PowerPC for consumer devices.

Feels bad man :(

>>60896661
No there isn't. One of the main reasons the Atom SoCs were not frequently used was app compatibility... Many developers implement native code into apps. Intel phones present themselves to the play store as x86, albeit they can run native ARM code by on the fly translation. When the developer doesn't choose to compile the native part of the app for ARM and x86 in the ADK it plainly won't show in the play store for these devices. In theory there never was a reason why a developer would do this... guess some didn't know better. Also intel couldn't just pretend to be a pure ARM phone as the emulation was (obviously) not as efficient... And now imagine the normal user trying to figure out all this shit while his beloved friends are playing pokemon go and he can't. even though the app did run when sideloaded...

angry birds and desperate validation gaining attempts on facebook dont necessitate processor power, ARM cpu's do 500mW while the lowest intel can do is 2.5W, that's 5 times the power loss

>>60896523
>when x86 is good enough for embedded?
I too, also enjoy, 10 minute battery life.

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Price, x86 just costs too damn much for phone manufacturers.

In fact the only way we got x86 on phones was by intel selling their Atoms at a loss. And it was great because it gave us the $300 4GB RAM zenfone with similar specs, performance of a samshit note 3, yet better battery life.

And x86 has only gotten more energy efficient especially with the zen architecture from AMD

Also there's the problem that people associate x86 with actual computers so they'll expect the desktop variant of windows running on the device.

>>60898507
>people associate x86 with actual computers so they'll expect the desktop variant
the average consumer has no idea which architecture their phone has
>x86 has only gotten more energy efficient especially with the zen architecture
it has, but the super low power application cases are way beyond the sweet spot of x86

>>60896523
>>60896661
Because ARM socs are not made by only 1 manufacturer
And because the x86 instruction set and legacy shit is ridiculous when compared to ARM

>>60896832
>Some intel CPUs are even bottlenecked by the decoder.
Is there a sauce on this?

>>60896523
x86 has a lot of instructions that aren't that usefull such as the SIMDs and the others, a lot of legacy stuff and more importantly embedded x86 is mostly done by intel who will will their customers as dry as the can.
ARM has none of these issues since it can just focus on the basics.

>>60898575
>such as the SIMDs
ever heard of ARMs neon?

>a lot of legacy stuff
if you are refering to things like the A20-gate: stuff like this doesn't exist in the smartphone SoCs as the OS is adapted and doesnt expect it

>>60896523
>It is good thing PowerPC is dead
No.

>>60897941
Mourning

>>60896581
Is that supposed to be satire or are you too stupid to realize how old and irrelevant that graph is? Things change in technology. ARM is much better now. Apple ARM CPUs spank Intel these days

>>60896843
>measuring GPU performance with flops

>>60896581
>VIA > intel
What?

>>60896523
What is that pic meant to show?

That running x86 code is faster on x86 hardware? Cause android emulators are slow as shit at emulating arm.