So Stretch is coming at the weekend. Are you upgrading? Have

Debian is the worst distro

Why not upgrade? It's not like it's unstable, all the packages are at least a year old

>>60887498
I thought it came 3 weeks ago

Can't, doesn't support ryzen.

Kernel too old.

>>60887598

Any good PDF readers that can annotate in Stretch?

This is very necessary for me and Foxit works flawlessly in Jessie.

>>60887610

No, release is slated for 17th June.

Currently planning my release party. Who wants to come?

>>60887654
mandella effect then I guess

>>60887678
Where?

>>60887678

I suppose if it's hanging out on IRC and drinking beers, fine.

>>60887504
Whatever you say Ubuntufag

>>60887683
its not just you, stretch was released a couple of weeks ago to my belief as well. There was a thread on here about debian release parties.

>>60887498
install gentoo

devuan ascii mon.

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>>60887498
Hell yes I'm upgrading
I run unstable on my daily driver and this package freeze is unbearable!

>>60887498
I'll try it out.

already upgraded to stretch OP

im strictly using only wayland on my fresh install with sysvinit+openrc and everything has been pretty great so far :)

>>60887639
qpdfview

>>60887897
>wayland
>sysvinit
there's only two DEs that run Wayland, KDE and GNOME and to my knowledge they both need SystemD.

>>60887947
not him but thnx

>>60887504

Why?

>>60887974
im using sway

this is a nice thread
any release parties in nordrheinwestfalen?

>>60887683
>>60887802
A couple weeks ago was the mailing list post that announced the release date and mentioned release parties.

tfw no geeky dutch chick to have a release party with and i show her my riced desktop and we swap gpg keys after eating cake

feels bad guys...

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>apt get just fuck my shit up
No thanks lmao.

>>60888068

>tfw my wife is forced to use Windows because of proprietary software tied to her business.
>tfw she has to keep spending £££ upgrading her software

I actually feel bad for her.

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>>60887947
>>60887979

Just tried it. Not quite as smooth as Foxit or Adobe's offerings, but definitely workable. Thank you very much indeed.

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>>60887678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ

>>60887974
sway

>>60888260

That was excruciating.

>he's so boring that he talks about his operating system

>Install "New" version of Debian
>Most recent package in the repos is from 2013

I upgraded quite a while ago but it kept crashing after a few days of uptime. Switched back to it a few weeks ago and haven't had an issue.

Debian is trash. No wonder Murdoch killed himself.

>>60887498
Debian has systemd by default, therefore it's cancer.

>>60889566
>t. Archfag
don't suppose you're using BSD

>>60887498

I'll clean install Debian+Cinnamon on a new SSD as soon as it's released.

>>60887974
>using a DE post 1999

>>60888239
Wait, why would Foxit work on Jessie but not Stretch?

>>60889583
arch also has systemd by default

>After this operation, 1,571 MB of additional disk space will be used.

so my 5GB jessie takes 6.5GB now

what are these 1.5GB of new features?

>>60891552
try autoremove

>>60887498
I've been on stretch since it became the codename for testing.

I'll be switching to Buster when Stretch goes stable

>>60891588
Has an update ever broken your machine?
What's it like being on testing?

>>60891613
>Has an update ever broken your machine?
No, but there have very occasionally been updates that I tried to do right between major migrations or after automatic tools made changes that would have broken a few minor packages that I use. Those are generally fixed very quickly and it's easy to see them coming and just hold the package or defer the update though.
>What's it like being on testing?
It's basically like being on any other distro. Debian testing is comparable to every other distro's normal release. Debian Unstable is the actually frequently broken one

Can I upgrade to devuan without breaking anything?

>>60891704
>Debian testing is comparable to every other distro's normal release
I'll stay right here on stable then tyvm

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>>60891552
apt-get clean, deborphan and

dpkg-query -Wf '${Installed-Size}\t${Package}\n' | sort -n

are your friends

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>>60888878
>report a bug in the stable version of debian
>emperor of debian commits suicide

it just finished upgrading
took about 1 hour

>>60892253
i upgraded in 5 minutes
get an SSD

who has the comfy debian girls release party pic T_T

we need debian waifus!!!!

>>60892323
have u tried f2fs or xfs as root with ssd?

imagine the I/O...

>>60891552
--no-install-suggests
--no-install-recommends

pinning also helps

>>60891613
>never
>havent noticed a difference from stable sept the newer packages honestly

its way more stable than rolling releases in my opinion

unstable is probably more like the real testing

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>>60891810
[confusion intensifies]

>>60890280
WM > DE

when will plebs get with the program?

whats your confusion?

do you have a dependancy on transmission-qt?

>>60892569
No but python and pithos shouldn't be 86'd; don't need that.

>>60892587
i always do core/base programs and libs (kernel /sbin/ /bin/ ect first

then i do a second sweep of toolkits ect like python

easier to manage and you wont end up in some kind of dependancy issue

I kinda figured out how to update to Stretch. But how do I update the kernel on my running server?

>>60892556
what is that 2 lined shell prompt everyone is using

>>60892617
is it using "stable" or "jessie"

if its "stable" leave it

if its "jessie"

make it "stable" and you will coast into stretch

>>60892658
uname -r says this, is this stable or jessie?

3.14.32-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64

>>60892658
once you switch to stable and everything is updated you can change it to "stretch"

but dont skip straight to stretch on a running server just incase

theres a chance you wont have any issues but "stable" could be wheezy stable for instance you know what im saying?

so its tough to say when i dont know what youre running

>>60892680
cat /etc/apt/sources

>>60892680
youre using wheezy

you need to update to jessie first which is the current stable

>>60887498
I'm still on Sarge. Wtf are you youngsters talking about?

>>60892687
>cat /etc/apt/sources

cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#deb http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/ jessie main
#deb-src http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/ jessie main

deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main

# jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/ jessie-updates main
deb-src http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/ jessie-updates main

# jessie-backports, previously on backports.debian.org
deb http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/ jessie-backports main
deb-src http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/ jessie-backports main

deb http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
deb-src http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free

>>60892696
I'm positive I'm on Jessie

>>60892703
you should be able to switch all instances of "jessie" to stable

this will roll you right into stretch when it drops

>>60892713
also checkout
apt-transport-https

>>60892703
>>60892725
dont forget to apt update after you modify sources

>>60892633
custm zsh prompts

my x60s' sid has been running for 5 years to the point i took the hd and put it in a t400 2 years ago

if it would break I had an excuse to finally install debian for amd64

>>60887992
Named after a normalfag and his gf, all incels should boycott it

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>>60894164
Good. No one likes incels and their whining anyway.

>>60894164
maximum_tipping.webm

>>60887498
I upgraded yesterday, since no time this weekend. But I'm considering to switch to unstable on my daily driver keeping stable (to be) on my "server".
What's peoples experience with sid?

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>>60891613
Testing is p good for usage. I've maybe experienced an issue once from something that I specifically fuck up myself. No real problems

My fileserver runs testing, so I'm already on the next cycle.

Get on my level.

>>60894398
Things break occasionally and you'll have to hold packages explicitly at times. Tried upgrading a Sid machine after not touching it for 7 months and all hell broke loose. I like stable better.

>>60887974
KDE can run without systemd, uses it on my OpenRC Gentoo system for a while

>>60887498
>>60887498
>>60887498
>not using a rolling release distro, e.g. Gentoo

why even live?

>>60887498
Screensavers! Finally.

>>60887504
Only if you're too dumb to use it.

>>60887498
> Are you upgrading?
As soon as Proxmox is released.

>>60895583
just use testing, or sid if you want to live on the edge.

>>60895583
I use Debian because I actively don't want a rolling-release distro.

>>60887498
What the fuck, already? I still haven't upgraded from wheezy.