Why does every single sweaty nerd on this board hate web developers?

>>60805117
Have you used the internet recently? Yeah, that's why everybody hates web devs.

>>60805117
Cause web developers can make money
And Anon from /g can't

>>60805132
> Visit facebook and 4chan mostly
> These sites look and feels like a shit
> This is fault of every web developer in person

>>60805117
cos they're not programmers

Most web development is incredibly formulaic. Set up a database scheme, data access in your language of choice, a web front end that consumes the data and allows you to change it. 75% of the work a web developer does in centered around these steps. Most "real programmers" feel this isn't real programming because there's hardly any problem solving, it's just generating the boilerplate for an HTML form for to register in a database somewhere.

>>60805172
That's because you only visit two sites.
You don't have a reasonable grasp of modern webdevelopment.

Take this website for example
http://www.trymore-inc.jp/

Websites with falling leaves or petals are another good example of absolute shit. Even with a modern processor and Chrome the instant you scroll the browser stops for a second to think.

>>60805117
Why does every kid on this board program? Where are the network engineers that can actually hold up a real technical conversation?

>>60805233
Woah I thought nips didn't give a damn about the current design trends

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>>60805117
Because web devs are "self taught" (i.e. retards) who don't know shit about actual programming and instead of learning how to program they post twitter updates about how cool they are

tl;dr web"""devs""" are cancer

>>60805256
They just don't bother upgrading current shit to new design trends.

New shit follows new trends.

Their basic philosophy is don't fix what isn't broken.

Formatting HTML and fucking CSS cancer does not make you a programmer. Building an IKEA shelf does not make you a carpenter, either...

>>60805452
Autocompleting code doesn't make you a programmer either.

I know.

>>60805233
Sounds like you need to try more

>>60805117
>Why does it matter whether an application's interface is a web page, a win32 form, a terminal or a minecraft world?
no one has yet to answer this question. what a surpise.

>>60805534
A lot of web developers don't do anything from scratch and don't know how to do anything from scratch. They just use prebuilt frameworks and mash shit together. Web is much more accepting of this approach than compiled languages because bad code will still show up, it may even appear to work properly.

>>60805534
stop being retarded, writing a minecraft world game and writing a webpage a vastly different you fucking mong.

>>60805599
>write algorithm to calculate all primes from 0 to 2,000,000,000
>display the result on a web page generated by NodeJS

>write algorithm to calculate all primes from 0 to 2,000,000,000
>display the result in a win32 form

>write algorithm to calculate all primes from 0 to 2,000,000,000
>display the result in terminal

>write algorithm to calculate all primes from 0 to 2,000,000,000
>display the result in a minecraft server's chat using the Bukkit API

lol the webdeveloper above^^ is such a noob xD

>>60805598
i don't think anyone argues people installing wordpress plugins are web developers

>>60805654
you are not making any sense

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>>60805730
probably cause im only a retarded web dev.
>yfw to smart

>>60805759
>post retarded garbage
>lel im 2smert4uuuuXD
okay

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>>60805792
>t. brainlet

>>60805792
wtf is there not to understand?
the same algorithm implemented in a bunch of different platforms, yet the web developer is completely discredited his work because he decided to print his output in an HTML page, instead of (for example) a terminal.

>>60805819
You mistakenly believe the web dev could do back end shit in the first place lmao

>>60805654
Get off this board, it's almost like you came straight from CurseForge.

>>60805850
with that you're admitting a web developer who does backend is not by definition worse than any other developer. thank you anon.

>>60805117
because applications that only offer a web front end are a pain in the ass to use.

>>60805866
Get off this board, it's most likely you came straight from autism treatment.

>>60805233
Wow. It doesn't even look right. The perspective of the tilted tiles on the green "page" (scroll down 3 times I think) is off.

>>60805888
obviously there's a time and a place for everything.
how useful would youtube be with only a terminal interface?

>>60805117
it is actually hilarious how many levels of abstraction is in webdev

https://hackernoon.com/how-it-feels-to-learn-javascript-in-2016-d3a717dd577f

(guilty confession , i actually enjoy doing webdev stuff)

>>60805117
>Why does it matter whether an application's interface is a web page, a win32 form, a terminal or a minecraft world?
Look, I don't mind web developers, but this is a fucking stupid thing to say. The answer is obvious: because it's slow as fuck.

I use Atom and while it's a very nice text editor, there is absolutely no denying that it eats RAM like there's no tomorrow, takes nearly 15 seconds to start up and really seriously starts to lag when trying to provide error reporting or code completion (or just when you leave it open for a long time). In particular the code completion is much much slower than Visual Studio, so slow that it defeats half the point of code completion at all, by the time it's prompted GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT from GL_COL, I could have just typed out the rest of the fucking constant.

We simply cannot make hardware faster more quickly than these people are using up the power doing ever dumber things. I have faster RAM than I've ever had, a faster CPU, a faster boot disk and a faster internet connection and the chat application I use takes longer than ever before to start up. That is not okay.

>>60805938
The people who made Atom aren't web developers though. They're desktop software developers who for no reason use web technologies to create desktop software.

>>60805885
>if i work as x then i am x
so if i pretend to be a police officer that makes me a police officer?
fucking retard

>>60805979
you need to a licence to be a police officer.
you're a backend developer simply by developing backends.

>>60805968
And I wasn't complaining about web developers, I was pointing out the obvious power eating problems with implementing your application's interface as a web page.

>>60805997
when is say web application i mean a program that runs on a server and interfaces with it's user through a web page, not something like atom or vs code. i'm talking youtube, facebook, google.

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>>60805233
Define "snag".

>>60805995
so if normie mc norman starts doing "backend" dev tomorrow he is just as good of a programmer as RMS?
do you realize how fucking stupid you are?

>>60806024
if RMS starts working on a web dev project he doesn't automatically become retarded over night.
normie mc norman is not automically retarded because he also does frontend.

>>60806018
Then that's pretty okay. It's still probably heavier and often less easily automatable but that's not a big deal for most use cases. (Although it certainly doesn't need to be, it's just that the people who force you to use their web portal and the people who don't provide access to other options tend to be the same guys).

>>60806024
>>60806045
*normie mc norman is retarded because HE JUST STARTED doing web dev, not BECAUSE he's doing webdev.

>>60806045
>>60806063
How can webdevs EVER compare to programmers like Linux, RMS or poettering?

>>60806085
RMS is probably a better developer than most web developers, yes.
But the average /g/ C-praising fizzbuzzer is NOT automatically better than any web developer.

>>60806193
and the average webdev is not better than the average ACTUAL programmer
your point?

Webdev seems like cancer from my limited exposure. Makes me think of that trend a while back where all the normies started riding longboards everywhere and insisted they were "skateboarders". Casuals.