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RIP firefox

For the time being, I'm going to stop building the webext version of uBO, there are too many serious issues now with it. I will resume when things stabilize, it's unclear whether it is expected things will have to change in uBO or whether things will be fixed in webext.

About accessing the dashboard, it's unclear to me whether this is something that will be fixed in WebExtensions[1], the answer from the Firefox dev is ambiguous: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.c ... 368152#c15. (I am being told the URL is not valid, then that it's not supported, then pointed to a bug issue where it's unclear whether it will fix the particular issue affecting uBO).

I could create a link to the dashboard, but this would mean downgrading uBO's current behavior: currently, if the dashboard is already opened, uBO will merely just activate the tab. If I have to change this to a plain <a> link, then this means the tab will be reloaded, and any changes not yet committed in the dashboard would be lost. But anyways, this would not solve the document-blocked case, where uBO really need to programmatically load the tab with a specific moz-extensions: URL.

The performance issue is real, I did run some benchmarks a while ago using the page-load-speed tool, and there is definitely an extra overhead incurred with WebExtensions. The webext version of uBO is pretty much exactly the Chromium version of uBO (code is imported as is), and it performs excellently on Chromium. Wherever uBO performs best, I consider this the reference performance, and if one platform suffers performance regression, this has to be addressed by the platform.

I've put (and still do) a lot of work into finding out where things can be improved, and it's discomfiting to see these performance gains being negated on the current webext platform. Hopefully with the ongoing work being done on the webext API, these issues will resolve with time.
- gorhill

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>im just here to block your ads
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Pale Moon doesn't have this problem.
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Firefox really is a mess
is Nightly any better ?
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>>60791994
Read the fucking thread, you meme spouting nigger, this is an issue concerning Nightly and that won't affect stable Firefox until November, provided it isn't fixed by then.
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>>60791865
It's temporarily frozen because they have to fix bugs. Also, it's only for the beta version. Why are you trying to make a big deal out of it?
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>>60792031
i don't care about your fucking issue, firefox is such an unresponsive cpu fucking memory eating piece of retarded nigger shit nowadays and i asked if nightly builds are any better
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Well there is no better alternative so I can wait
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>>60791865
>RIP firefox
he's just putting pressure on the devs. there's still half a year left before webex support needs to be ready. and if it isn't they can still push it back to the next release
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>>60791890
is that a woman
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There needs to be a list of every major addon that won't be updated for webextensions or will be on hold for months after webextensions is released.
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>>60792147
Tree style tabs for one
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does pale moon work with firefox extensions? firefox is the only application that runs stutters and has delays on my fresh gentoo install. fucking Blender opens in less than half a second but firefox can't open a new tab that fast.
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>>60792174
Most extensions work without problems and if there is a problem, there usually is a fork of it for pale moon.
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>>60792069
>firefox gradually degraded to the current unresponsive cpu fucking memory eating piece of retarded nigger shit state
>if nightly builds are any better
Are you retarded?
c: closed road
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>>60791865
Midori is extra comfy.
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>not using adguard
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>>60792202
Nightly uses multiprocessing
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>>60792290

as does stable. it all depends on what addons you use.
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>>60792290
>more memory eating
>still unresponsive
It can't be fixed without a new engine. And servo is a meme, so don't ask stupid questions until ff switches to webkit.
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what about muh waterfox?
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>>60792146
can't be sure these days
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>3,854,656 users
Of course they will fucking fix it since otherwise they lose 90% of their entire user base
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>>60792399
I remember when it was <10k, god damn.
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>>60792147
>>60792164
A list of possible WebExtension replacements would be also nice. For example I think a Tree Style Tabs WebExtension clone already exists.
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>>60792399
Adblock Plus has 16,698,172 users :^)
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>>60792399
As if they care. All their recent decisions show they don't give a fuck about it.
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>>60792069
> memory eating piece of retarded nigger shit
You mean chrome?
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>>60791865
>>60792624
Why doesn't Mozilla integrate adblocking into their browser? Almost all, if not all, chromium forks have adblocking. They can just take uBO and somehow integrate it.
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>>60792805
No your just stupid.
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>>60792805

Mozilla have enough trouble managing their browser.
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>>60793285
they're doing lots of things at once: transitioning to e10, adopting parts of servo and transitioning to webextensions. it's a bit messy but they need to do all of this fast or they're ded
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>>60792545
Get started anon
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>>60793377
They're already dead man walking. They have alientated their core audience but won't be able to beat Google on its home turf.
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Microsoft Edge doesn't have this problem.
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I just noticed how much i hate thunderbirds lack of 2 line message pane..

such a waste of space not having it, fucking bracketed grouped bs.
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>>60793425
Might do it when Firefox 57 is released, no point of doing it now though, it isn't even in Nightly iirc.
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Is palemoon bad?
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>>60793504
Not if you're a furry :^)
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>>60792670
Firefox eats loads of ram too
at least chrome/chromium is fast
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>>60792670
With Chrome the memory used can be reduced when closing tabs. Firefox gains bloat as you open and close tabs. Its been a fucking decade and they still don't fix that shit.
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>>60793743
Webkit is too.
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Really man, at this point just call them

>Daily "I hate Firefox, stop using it REEEEEEE" thread
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>>60793841
feel free to use it, though. you'll be one of the last to leave the sinking ship
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>>60793803
Chrome is basically WebKit.
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>>60793927
Basically yes, but it's way bulkier.
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>>60793927
Chrome uses blink that was forked from webkit some time ago. Safari uses webkit and you will see quite massive rendering and performance differences between the two.
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>>60793543
I am :^)
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>>60793543
>>60794261
>using the smiley with a carat nose
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>>60791890
Bad analogy. It's more like leaving your wallet on a bar counter with a sticky note that says take what you need and getting angry when people steal your money.
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How do we solve the SJW problem rotting firefox from within?
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>>60794542
This thread is about gorhill and his addon being frozen because of bugs. Go shill (((chrome))) somewhere else
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>>60794564
because of firecuck bugs
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>>60794617
In the beta version, as I said, go shill somewhere else
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>>60794634
which most likely won't get fixed.
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>>60794681
Did the Rabbis tell you what's going to happen in future you pedantic shill?
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>>60794714
yes and why would they be wrong>
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>webextensions
>extra overhead incurred
what the fuck mozilla
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So does this mean no new versions of ublock origin on Firefox, or is it just a separate branch of ublock origin that's being put on hold?
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>>60792360
Isn't it the same as firefox but without the botnets?
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>gorhill throwing a tantrum
nothing new
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>>60794408
>not using the smiley with a cart nose
',:^)
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>>60795233
>using the smiley with a carat nose and raised eyebrow
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>>60795031
No one?
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Anyone know how to check which version of ublock origin you're using? I'm not sure if I'm on the web extensions or xpi version
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>>60796737
Just the WebExtension version has been put on hold. The XUL version will be updated as usual.
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>>60796754
You're using the XUL version. WebExt is not on AMO.
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So will it be safe to not upgrade Firefox until this is guaranteed to be fixed? Since uMatrix and blocking third party scripts on default does offer some security from exploits, no?
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>>60793504
It's basically rice: the browser. If you are the type of guy that likes to post in the desktop threads, then you'll probably love it.

Also, it's really easy to contribute to development since most of the official code is submitted via pull requests on github
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>>60796923
You will use the XUL version until Fx57 lands. And even then you can keep using XUL version by switching to ESR52. Those issues are strictly for the WebExt version of uB0. It's a completely different addon.
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>>60797050
>57
Isn't nightly already on 56? Scary
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>>60798462
55, it stayed on 55 another cycle due to removal of Aurora channel.
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