/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

aimpad 61 pcb when

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Forty years and still trucking.

Is graphite a good enough lube to stop scratchyness while keeping the stock feel?

>>60789326
You'll want a non-conductive lube for obvious reasons.

>>60789192
What's it like never having a human female over? I hope you go to prison for owning that pervy keyboard you vapid fat fuck.

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>>60789339

>>60789339
you get more (You)s with Intel / AMD b8 threads, m8

>>60789339
Human females are dumb sluts anyway, anime females and traps are objectively superior.

>spill water on my keyboard
>didn't take it apart because I didn't want to nullify the warranty
>I don't have screwdriver with me right now anyways
>I let it dry over night facing down, It wasn't that much water
>12 hours later
>now when press down the down arrow key, right arrow key is activated as well
did I fuck up, should I give it more time?

>>60789376
did you leave it in rice for those 12 hours?

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>>60789339
>human female
3D girls can't compete with hatsune miku's mad armpit game

>>60789385
I don't have rice
>inb4 you fucked up

Decide my next board /g/
>last was CM Quickfire TKL
>sick of not being able to find complete sets in UK layout I am going to switch to US layout
>UK layout is ugly
>TKL okay
> Preferably less than $100 USD
>Location HK
>backlight RGB or none
>red switch

Do I meme Filco/Ducky Shine and call it a day?

Is the CM Storm QuickFire Rapid TKL still the best TKL around?

I'm very out of date on mechanical keyboards.

>>60789769
Id say Leopold since they come with better keycaps. However since this is all preference you're better off trying them yourself at a brick and mortar store like keyboard hell in Mk.

>>60789920
Keyboard hell is in Sham Shui Po now.

That's what I was going to do but if hell guy recs me two different Leopold at same size factor I don't think I can differentiate much. With Leopold, are there things to look out for or to avoid? Thanks anon.

I was about to compete my Amazon order for my budget PC build and I just remembered I need a keyboard. Can any of you keyboard afficianados recommend a CHEAP ($40 or less) keyboard? I just need something basic that isn't too loud. I've been using an HP laptop with chicklet keyboard for the last 5 years if you want to know how low my standards are.

I realize this is like asking a wine connoisseur what the best boxed wine is or a cohiba smoker if they prefer peach or grape white owls, but whatever.

>>60790035
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M0QEYR4

Basic full-size chinkboard with no-name brown switches for babby's first mechanical keyboard. There's also a TKL for $9 less.

>>60790311
If only I can into wiring to do same LED base. I like it.

why are clears so rare?

>>60790386
Hard to make them look pretty and not cheap.

>>60790311
>fixed slope

>>60790401
>not working at a desk already perfectly catered to your height and posture

Step UP

>>60789386
Miku is normie, kys retard.

>>60789339
>Berates someone for liking something that's superficial, hurting no one
>Calls them vapid
Hmmm I don't think you know what that word means. Either way you're a hypocritical piece of shit.

member when you repeatedly press a key on a keyboard and the computer beeps... computers have no souls these days because they don't beep if you do that now

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EnjoyPBT familia here?

>>60791051
Hey anon, press shift 5 times in a row and rejoice.

>>60791197
PBT is the patrician material

>>60791227
my mobo doesn't have a speaker lol

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>>60791197
right here

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These threads r dead

Bought a new KBParadise V60 with Gateron Yellows for $70 as my first mechanical keyboard, then I bought blank white PBT keycaps to go with it. It has yet to be delivered, though. Thoughts?

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what are romer-g switches?

only decent looking keyboard here is logitech g810
tesoro with something called agile
and hyperx alloy fps which looks decent and has brown switches but suspiciousously cheaper, tempting though
other either razer or red switches

i'm just tired replacing cheap membrane every year because it gets too loud

>>60791526
personally I find F keys this close to numbers annoying, takes time to get used to

Is there a 'recommended' way to clean your mechanical keyboard? I have a can of condensed air & some rubbing alcohol, that's all I need, right?

For reference, I have a Corsair K95 RGMeme Edition

>>60791350
I've only experience PBT keys on a Unicomp.

>>60791529
Romer-Gs are Logitech's proprietary switches used on their gaeman boards. Best way I can describe it is an MX Brown with a higher tactile bump.

It's a really hit-or-miss switch, and the G413 is the only one that doesn't look like ricer shit.

>>60791634
what about hyperx on the pic? are they cheaply built or something?
my choices are limited here

>>60791661
How about Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro L with white LED?

>>60791682
not sold here

How can I put my waifu on my keycaps

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>>60791731
WASD keyboards
make sure the detail are big enough or it will look like shit
compare op to this to see what I mean

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>>60791731
>>60791778
another one that looks like shit

>>60789982
Note that the space-bar might not be standard so you should ask him, but the bot keycaps which come with the board already great. Other than that at your price it's either the 660 or 750 (MX red) so choose whichever key layout suits you (660 may be too minimal for some, it also doesn't have front facing font).

>>60789982
He recently moved to Mk you can check his Facebook for location.

I have an MK Fission because it was the cheapest way to get MK clears. But I feel like the key polling has some kind of timing bug. It keeps dropping keys that I know actuate and it keeps reordering keys that I know were pressed in a different order, more than a millisecond apart. Should I tear it open and replace the electronics with a teensy? I have the skills and know how, I know don't know if it's worth the effort.

>>60791526
hand wire?

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>>60791461
I don't think there has been a thread that reached bump limit for a week

>>60792112
How about you don't use a unix based os

>>60792551
I don't use a unix based os.

>>60792125
No, I just bought it directly from mk.com. Didn't make it myself if that's what you mean

>>60789192
That's weeb as fuck but it looks good.

Are these caps good?
https://aliexpress.com/item/Hot-Sale-Blank-108-ANSI-ISO-layout-Thick-PBT-Keycap-For-OEM-Cherry-MX-Switches-Mechanical/32810722028.html

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>>60791197
I have no place to go.

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>nip keycaps are 85 burgers

Are Aristotle or Zealio switches remotely worth trying? I wanna build a board with some uncommon switches. Looking for high clickiness or perfect smooth linearity.
Any good switch mods/combos do this?

>>60793294
input.club/linear
input.club/tactile
input.club/tactile-clicky

>>60793332
A list of production switches isn't useful. I'm looking for peoples opinions. I know how google works, but it's all leddit shills who love everything and can't see negatives.

>>60793282
there is a cheaper set without the sushi for 50 bucks

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>>60793382
okay then here is the official /mkg/ switch guide

>>60793427
>brown is useless shit
Stop reading here.

>>60793427
So which are the "pretty good" ones, Gateron?
Been looking into the Kailh box Gold ones. Dunno how they stack up

>>60793487
Kailh box white*

are blacks really that heavy?
also, anyone tried linear greys?

>>60793476
>Cherry MX

>>60794224
Yes, and?

>1) What keyboard do I buy?
> - See the buyer's guide

>No buyer's guide listed

>>60794925
It's very old and outdated. The buyer's template is much better since there are just too many keyboards out there. It's:
https://pastebin.com/QJD7fSGU
but I wouldn't use it since there are better keyboards, and some of the ones on there have been discontinued

>>60795090
Oh okay, that makes sense. I just wanted to look around for options, since I'm starting to think my full size keyboard doesn't allow for good mouse placement. Though I really don't have a specific request or something.
The faq should be updated then, but I guess it doesn't really matter.

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>>60795388
consider something with the 1800 layout. That way you have a number pad, while still having about the same size as a TKL. The 980m in the pic is missing a few keys for the sake of a more standard layout, while the original 1800 has all the keys of a full size keyboard

>>60789982

Leopold's PBT keycaps suck. They have very sharp edges that make them uncomfotable to type on for long periods. Also, they use clipped stabilizers instead of an improved solution to soft cherry stabilizers, which means the stabilized keys are really loud and clanky. If you want a solid TKL, get a KUL ES-87 and put some nice GMKs or dye-sub PBT from China on it.

>>60791812

They all look like shit...

Anyone here have Topres? Are they a meme or are they worth the $200+ premium?

>>60796644
They are a meme, and that is why they cost so much. You can get a cheap topre keyboard like the typeheaven for 140 bucks, then switch out the keycaps for some nice thicc cherry profile PBT for an extra 40 bucks

>>60795790
I don't like how that changes essential key locations like ctrl. I was more thinking of having a separate numpad and arrow keys to the left of the keyboard or something. Then again, I have no idea how available that even is, and I wasn't even planning on spending huge money on a new keyboard when my current one works just fine.

>>60796841
So you want a left handed keyboard? The g80-1800 has all the keys of a full size keyboard, and since its an old design it is verry customizable

>>60789268
Still looks pretty awesome. Is the "on line" indicator always on?

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>>60791197
purple legends ftw

>>60789376
12 hours later it still does the same thing
halp

Are split/ergonomic keyboards a meme?

>>60797225
Tried one of those Microsoft ergonomic keyboard many years ago.
Was fucking comfy but odd to type on.
If you can get used to it, try it out.

>>60797271
Any good recommendations? I heard the ergo pro is good, but I actually don't have the time, motivation or skills to make one myself, and pre-built ones are either never in stock or overpriced as fuck. The only other one I know of is keyboard.io which is bulkier than your mom and also overpriced because of the hipster wood finish and whatnot.

Are there good, utilitarian, ergonomic mechanical keyboards out there? I wouldn't mind paying $150+ if I'm actually paying for the keyboard (as opposed to either a markup due to demand, or a wooden meme).

>>60791661
If you want something quiet, get a Gateron RED.

>>60791634
Creative is also using Romer-G like switches or Omron switches if you prefer to say.
Logitech probably has the same deal with Omron as they have with Pixart (eg. PMW3366/3360).
Switches feeling a part, but Omron is probably the best manufacturer for this job. Hope they release a red or blue version soon.

>>60797063
I haven't gotten the LED's back up and running yet. I think what I'll do is have input flash whenever you press a key, online for power indicator, system available for connected to computer, and then use the far right for locklights.

>>60789339
my girlfriend would find that fucking hilarious.

How come you guys dickride IBM kbs so much? Just got a model M and honest to god it feels like shit, blues/greens/browns all feel much better.
Not complaining though, since it was a gift.

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Best board I've ever owned

>>60798316
are those bohrok masks?

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Just got this model m for free, how would i go about converting it to usb or ps/2?

>>60798328
Cthullu heads

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>>60798374
This is the pic of the connector

>>60790311
What kb

>>60798392
what's up with that colorscheme?

>>60798418
What do you mean?

>>60798434
I don't get it
I don't know how to explain it better
the colors seem random

>>60798476
Well cmyw is a pretty standard colour scheme. Ask your printer.

>>60798316
kb name pls

>>60793427
>you must be this autistic to ride: the image

>>60798507
Kbd75

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>>60798500
well the colors do make more sense when I turn off flux

>>60798316
>that escape
I mean I get that you can use Ctrl+[ but still

>>60798275
Your rivets are probably busted in the middle, making the board loose and shitty. Bolt mod it.

>>60798396
You just need a 5DIN to PS2 passive adapter. They're like $2.

>>60798583
Don't think so, the kb is in pretty good condition for something this old, and I guess it feels like it should, just expected it to be better than cherry mx/clones, maybe its just not for me.

Are model Ms a meme? How much should I pay for one? Can they reliably be bought off e.g. ebay without too many problems?
Here in bongistan every listing right now has sky-high shipping so the cheapest I can get one for is like £50. Is that way overpriced? Should I just not bother and find a good modern kb?

>>60798606
Dude, the rivets break from age and use, nothing to do with outside condition. Just open it up and look.

>>60798608
Yes, they're a meme. But memes aren't necessarily bad. Don't pay more than about thirty pounds for one in good shape or fifteen for one in shit shape that needs a lot of work. Get them at auction and not BIN.

They're still one of my favorite kinds of keyboards, I just wish there was a cheap unicomp SSK. Sometimes a guy doesn't want a full sized monster on his desk.

>>60798608
>cheapest I can get one for is like £50.

Grab it ASAP, that's a fucking deal. The last time I checked these were for at least £80 plus 20 for """""shipping""""".

>>60798735
>grab it asap for £50
>>60798692
>don't pay more than about £30

Fuck, what do I do

>>60798820
Sorry, what I meant is get it for 50 assuming it's from within UK. I can see a bunch of deals for 30, but they're all from US, so not only you'll pay above 50 anyway including shipping, but customs will also slap a charge on top of it.

I doubt you'll ever see Model M in UK for 30 as those are sold exclusively (along with other old but useful equipment) by attic hoarders and computer store pajeets attempting to milk collectors and nostalgia dads. 50 is still a good deal, if you're buying from within UK.

>>60798976
No, it's from fuck-knows-where (i.e. US), but they guy's selling it for $30 or £23. Then shipping is another £23.
Looking at it is also has an import charge of like £7 which wasn't listed on the summary in the search results, which is gay.

I think I'll just hold off on the meme until I have the opportunity to get it for the sake of the meme.

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Ia there any reason to buy a Realforce if I'm not falling for the variable force meme?

planning on buying some custom caps from pmk, but i heard Signature plastic takes AGES to deliver. is this only true for group buys or does it affect pmk orders as well?

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So razer has come out with a 'mechanical membrane' keyboard...

why would you want both in a keyboard?

>>60799305
Ask all the people that buy Topre.

Got me a TKL Ducky One with blue leds and brown cherry switches as my first mechanical keyboard. Have only had it for less than a week now, but love the feeling so far!

My Plum84 with gaterons just died after like 3 months.
What's the best fully programmable 87 or 84 key board, or should I just get another Plum

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Just bought my first mechanical keyboard, it's a cheap Chinese one, I didn't want to spend a fortune on a keyboard, but maybe I will in the future, so far it feels pretty amazing to type, I'm making some mistakes here and there but slowly adjusting to it.

But, are the keycaps really supposed to be this thin? From time to time my fingers go a little bit over the edge and I end up typing two keys. I don't know if Cherry standard is supposed to be like this or if it's just my keyboard. My old keyboard had large keycaps, so it feels a bit weird.

>>60790035
I'd recommend this one anon, I bought it for 43.99 on Gearbest, but I guess you can get it on amazon too. It feels pretty sturdy.

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So is a Novatouch worth the money? I want to try topre as it's supposed to be like a better mx brown which is what I use but I still want to be able to use cherry keycaps

bought a james donkey black gateron tkl
did I just get memed?

>>60798583
The connector isnt 5 din tho, what cable would i need?

>>60799305
cheaper yet still feels as good in most cases
then there is stuff like topre where they will argue that it's better than an mkb

>>60793427
matias is pretty good man...

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Any short shift key that would kind of match the keycaps ?

>>60800103
3d print

>>60798316
Slightly new here, what's this form factor? Is it 70%?

>>60799973
The keyboard has been discontinued for almost a year now. If you can find one go for it.

>>60800152
75

>>60800103
Can I get a link for the weeb set?

>>60800065
It is DIN 5, but IBM has the pins angled a different way. You can get a converter, or make one yourself

>>60800244
Not the exact same set, but here is a similar one.
https://originative.co/products/modern-beige

>>60800244
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/japanese-dye-subbed-keycap-set
It was also on massdrop for 36 bucks + shipping

How would I go about trying to find a matrix layout kb, around 75% or so, with good switches? If I find something really good budget is theoretically unlimited, but I'd like something reasonable.

I would love something like typematrix but they use scizzor switches for some fucking inane reason.

>>60800266
Oh okay ty, could i get a link to the converter, i cant seem to find one on google

>>60800538
there's a bunch of different ones out there all made by the same guy
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Soarer-039-s-Converter-Adapter-for-IBM-Model-F-122-Keyboard-Remapping-Macros-NKR-/271644933588
There is also a thread on geekhack about programming them and making your own.

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>>60800103
why the fuck is that 85 dollars on ebay

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>>60800752
That's the normal price for niche mechanical keyboards. The one with gateron switches is 20 bucks cheaper

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>>60800752
its this https://www.amazon.com/Element-Water-Proof-Mechanical-Keyboard-Anti-Ghost/dp/B01FXF7HFC
i put in zealios and swapped out the caps

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>>60798374
So the more i look for my keyboard as a model m the less i find but if i search for model f it is excactly the same as mine, could the label be wrong on the back?

>>60801143
No. There's both an M and F battleship that look nearly identical.

>>60801143
That's the AT model M for terminals, used typically by the admins

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>>60800103
How do you access a full set of Jap keys without using their weird micro space bar?
Or are the runes just for show?

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Waiting for these. Am I cool now?

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>>60801178
>>60801233
How much do you guys think this is worth?

>>60801315
No, you're homosexual now

>>60789333
but I have an HHKB so it won't affect it.

>>60801327
I will give you $60 and VIP access to my butt.

>>60801355
fuck.

>>60801327
The bigger the M, the less it's worth. I got an NIB Unicomp USB model of that exact board a couple years ago for $30 shipped.

Probably worth about $40+shipping though.

>>60801358
>what is parasitic capacitance

>>60796644
They are a meme. the knock off 35g versions give you a good feel of how the switch actuates, but the real ones are honestly hard to tell between standard rubber domes without their signature thock.
You should still buy one since they are more reliable than any other switch, they have no chatter and actuations always work.

>>60801327
If its in great condition then 60 bucks + shipping is the highest you could probably get away with

>>60793427
>no gateron version of mx clears
REEEEEE

>Budget
$200
>Location (continent at least)
U S A
>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX Red or similar.
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
Whatever. Don't need any. I like white, blue, yellow, and orange.
>Previous/current keyboards
Cheap shit.

Needs to be PBT or budget in replacement PBT caps.

>>60801578
there were, but the zeal guy got pissy about it.

Are the so dsa caps any good? Are they comfy? Are they worth the price?

>>60802896
*sp

>>60802941
Get chink DSA for 30 bucks. That way if you don't like DSA profile you won't regret spending $70 on some silly plastic.

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Apparently, this is the [spoiler]Reddit[/spoiler] version of that gun-nut guy.

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>>60802990
I can smell the hipster aroma seeping through my monitor. The only way it would be better is if he had an apple mechanical keyboard to match the rest of his set up

sorry but i am really new to model ms and terminal keyboards in general but all i need to do is get this adapter and mess with the layout a little and im good? or does that require a small board computer like arduino or teensie? http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Soarer-039-s-Converter-Adapter-for-IBM-Model-F-122-Keyboard-Remapping-Macros-NKR-/271644933588

>>60803048
if you buy that cable, you are all set. If you buy a teensie you can make the cable yourself

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>>60803015
But the 90's Apple mechanical keyboard was fucking great, man
>Caps Lock Key that physically locks down when activated
Hng.

>>60791778
should i watch this anime? i like eromanga sensei is it similar?

>>60803067
oh ok that makes sense, i just got scared when everything online that mentioned it also mentioned the teensie, so my last question is is there a large amount of latency?

>>60803098
At its best, just a typical, vanilla, run-of-the-mill harem rom-com.
At its worst, the smell of unoriginality just reeks sky-high.
With eromanga sensei, at least it's a bit more meta and self-awared.

>>60803118
It's like FLAC.
Scientifically, your ears shouldn't be able to detect the differences .
But, fucking humans, man.

>>60803118
>latency
Yeah m8 that 1ms of delay will surely fuck up my gaymes. Now there is a max of about ~500 wpm due to the clock cycle, but you aren't a robot

>>60803120
i liked k-on and clannad, you made it sound boring though, kinda turned me off

>>60803178
idk ive used some janky keyboards and adapters that make shit visibly lag a shitton like you type a character and it takes almost half a second to show up on the screen

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ASUS ROG Claymore Core Black

considering i'm not overpaying for this, is it okay?
Only short keyboard I can find here.

>>60804252
I don't know, seeing how you didn't give a location or even a fucking price tag.

>>60804394
not sure how would my wooden tugriks make sense to you

all mechanical keyboards here are within 6% price difference

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>tfw national keyboard layout is about to change

I am sort of considering a mechanical keyboard however the guides on budget ones seem to be only for US layouts while I'm looking for an UK one.

>>60804448
So you're a literal Mong?

Unless you can get it for less than 80 USD, you might as well walk next door to China and pick up a similar brown switch board for much less.

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what's /g/'s opinion on the G710+? Mine is in Cherry brown

>>60804854
Pretty good if you got it on clearance at Walmart.

>>60804854
acceptable if you got it for free

>>60804900
>>60804924
good

I actually stole it from a client that was complaining it was too loud

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hmmm

>>60798560
You can still press it

I just wanna thank whichever anon recommended Anne Pro with Gateron Browns a while back. This thing is beautiful.

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so i bought a tada 68 a week or so ago
its been great
but just today i noticed that my zero key is fucking up royally
it is hard to activate and sometimes it double clicks when pressing it once
i checked the back of the board for faulty solders but it all looks fine
could it be a software issue
or a broken switch

and how is the warranty with ali express?

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How do I clean my unicomp keycaps?

>inb4 >unicomp
I fell for that meme because I even started browsing /g/ and I like it

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>>60789339
why are you so threatened by someone's keyboard? Hell, why are you even comparing yourself to it?

>>60806095
Its PBT so put them in the dishwasher

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>>60789192
>LOLITA
Absolutely disgusting.

>>60806095
What's wrong with Unicomp?

>>60802985
where would one find these?

>>60789192
I WANT THIS KEYBOARD
>tfw just spent the last of my freemoneys on new keyboard ;-;

>>60797435
The best one out there, by far, would be a split ergodox ez, but it likely will run closer to $200 (it's almost always something you need to build yourself)

>>60804854
Got it for 59€ a few years ago, good keyboard, the one big problem is the volume scroll, it breaks after a while.

>>60806319
Chink land. Aliexpress has one for 5 bucks less, but its all one solid color. This one is 35 bucks
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/dsa-blank-keycaps?variant=37045765645

>>60806505
Thanks man

>>60806319
Phone posting so sorry for the mobile link
https://m.aliexpress.com/search.htm?keywords=DSA+keycaps#/

>>60806311
Supposedly more expensive than a model M and most likely worse than cherry switches. Idk tho I've only owned that keyboard and I don't regret it. I've been called a fag on /g/ before tho

>>60806611
Fair enough. I wholeheartedly disagree on the switches though. Buckling springs are by far the best tactile 'switches' I have ever used (haven't had the opportunity to try a beam spring yet).

They are definitely more expensive, I agree, but you do get all new components as well as a meta key for your money. IIRC a new Model M cost upwards of $300 (in 1980s money) back in the day so it's not really a reasonable comparison.

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>>60799973
Buy it immediately, moron.

>split spacebar 65% pops up on Massdrop
>only one layout
>split backspace and fucktarded bottom row with a heap of 1u mods to make room for the 1.5u alt keys and 3u spacebars
What drug was the designer on when he decided that was a good layout?

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PSA to anybody planning to do a custom build using a clear acrylic plate: do NOT use super glue to hold down your switches! It may look fine when you put it on, since it's clear and you only need a tiny drop. But it will produce a white residue slowly as it dries, which will fuck up the entire point of clear acrylic: looking clear. Plus, at that point your switches are stuck so you can't even restart with clean acrylic. It's a good thing I only glued down 2 rows on half my keyboard as a test. The rest is gonna use hot glue instead probably. Still, my board will forever be blemished because I didn't know super glue produced some sort of vapor that leaves a deposit as it dries. You have been warned, learn from my mistake anons.

>>60808384
Have you never used super glue before or something

>>60808384
As another point: if you're gluing together acrylic layers (I'd probably recommend gluing together all layers of a sandwich-style case apart from the bottom obviously), then don't just use super glue, get the proper acrylic weld.

The main reason, apart from the tendency to leave a white residue, is that super glue will bond in like half a second when you use it with acrylic. Proper acrylic glue will look better and be just as strong when set, but most importantly it will take about 20-30 seconds to set, giving you much more time to wiggle around the parts until they're in the right position to clamp down.

However, I didn't think acrylic glue would work on the switches (since they're not acrylic), so I tried using super glue again, figuring that a tiny amount wouldn't fuck things up. I was wrong about that, too.

All in all, it's been a big learning experience, and I haven't even started wiring yet. Sure hope I don't end up wasting $50 worth of switches.

>>60808435
Not on anything clear, no. Also, when I tried to use it to hold together the layers of acrylic (see >>60808448), the white residue didn't spread nearly as much. (That attempt fucked up instead because my layers ended up a bit too far off due to the glue setting before I could adjust it completely)

>>60808435
Secondly, fortunately a majority of the residue came off with some vigorous polishing, so it's not hugely noticeable, especially I imagine once I put the caps on.

>>60806374
I feel like it's so expensive solely because it's in high demand but in low supply because most people don't care to build their own.

If I've literally never touched solder, acrylic, and other related stuff, do you think I could still successfully build one myself or am I better off just coughing up for the ez?

>>60808356
What's the rationality behind opting for split spacebars? How is it better than the more conventional one?
Seriously.

>>60808541
Also, it's actually $300 for the ez.
Are there any other ways to get one? Or are ez and diy the only options?

>>60808541
I think building one yourself would be a lot more fun, but it honestly won't save you much money. You can totally do it though, the skills required aren't anything a middle schooler can't pick up in a couple hours. Soldering that hard since you'll just be attaching stuff to a premade circuit board (which is easy, just watch a video or rad a tutorial). You'll still end up paying a decent amount because there's just not much you can do to make 80 switches, a teensy, the circuit boards, keycaps, and a case be cheap. If you have access to a laser cutter you can cut your own wood or acrylic case for much less money than ordering them online, but all in all you'll still probably end up paying close to $170 or more. You can always just try pricing it out by looking over the parts list here: https://www.ergodox.io/

>>60808609
Hm, I guess if the ez is $300, then building it yourself actually is much cheaper. Not aware of any other premade options; but it was intended as a DIY thing from the beginning. I'd say most people who have one probably built it themselves.

>>60808629
>>60808673
$170 is significantly cheaper than $230-$300. I'll definitely give it some thought, thanks for the advice.

Oh and one more thing, I've heard people complain about the thumb cluster placement (I remember reading about somebody doing a mod to lower it relative to the main board). If I have smaller hands, is it likely to be more comfortable or more problematic?

>>60808680
NP, you can probably get a better price estimate if you just price out everything on the list from ergodox.io . I bet you could save some decent money if you went with chinkshit switches and caps. The case (~$50-70 probably) and PCB (~$25) will probably be your most expensive parts unless you can 3D print or laser cut your own case. Making your own PCB is possible too, but easier to fuck up than 3D printing--probably just plan to buy that if you get an ergodox.

If you have small hands, then moving the thumb cluster further away from the rest of the keys sounds like the wrong thing to do. Also, you wouldn't want to do something that prevented you from using the standard PCB.

>>60808384
why did you use glue though? Doesn't the plate hold the switches properly?

How are the "mainstream" keyboards, like Corsair? I can get K70 for $130.

The TADA68 would be THE perfect keyboard if it had one more row for the F keys

debate me

>>60809144
>Doesn't the plate hold the switches properly?
The problem is exactly that: switches are built for a 1.5mm plate, but 1.5mm acrylic is way too flimsy for a plate. That means you need to either use thicker acrylic and glue your switches, or maybe try to hack something together with a 1.5mm layer and a thicker support layer underneath (in which case, gluing the layers together would likely leave small imperfections and bubbles, making it look less good).

You could go without anchoring the switches down at all, but then you'd run the risk of breaking your circuitry when you try to pull off keycaps.

>>60809321
They're not bad, but $130 is quite expensive for a midgrange keyboard these days, with the abundance of decent-quality shit from china.

>>60809382
I'm a full size user myself because I love the numpad, but removing the F keys loses you almost nothing--they're very infrequently used, so requiring you to press Fn+5 to reload a web page isn't a big deal.

The real inexcusable memeboards are 40%, where you need to hold down modifiers just to type numbers.

>>60809413
the 5 row layout loses the dedicated Home and End keys and moves the ~ to a weird spot. There is literally no reason not to have the top row

>>60808603
You get 1-2 more keys and honestly were you using all 6-7units of area on a standard one anyway?

>>60809453
You know any good programmable keyboard lets you do ~ with shift+esc right

>>60809453
I agree, but tons of people never use home and end, and rarely use ~. Not saying it's for me; I use home and end all the time. But if you're one of the people who don't then it shouldn't matter much.

Second, it's programmable, so you could easily replace tada68's page up/down with home and end, or put them on the Fn layer.

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01N28LMEO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

is this gud? i just bought it.

>>60809385
>They're not bad, but $130 is quite expensive for a midgrange keyboard these days, with the abundance of decent-quality shit from china.

Is it though?

I mean, Magicforce 68 is cool and only $50, but then there's $50 DHL shipping, and there will be probably $10-20 duty fee on top of that, and I end up with tenkeyless led-less keyboard that's only marginally cheaper.

>>60800103
late af but how did you get gaterons in this? Other people have said you can only swap outemu switches in

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>>60809674
>but then there's $50 DHL shipping, and there will be probably $10-20 duty fee on top of that
where the fuck do you live

>>60809674
Sounds like you live in Brazil or something. I can't imagine it costing $50 to ship from China. Are you able to get rosewill keyboards where you are? They should be under $100 for something fullsize with backlighting, and will be similar quality to the corsair.

Can you recommend me switches? Last I looked I think I thought cherry clear switches would be good, but now apparently there's a bunch of alternatives so I don't know.

Primary use will be programming, secondary - gaming. So I'd like something not too horribly tactile as to introduce a delay while playing games. But right now I'm typing on a shitty chiclet keyboard and I want a "proper" mechanical feel, so I'm not too keen on reds either. However, everything I know about switches comes from reading descriptions, so I have no idea how they'd actually hold up in real usage (as far as I know, it's actually trivial to get used to gaming with blacks, or something). Clicky or not is fine, I'll enjoy annoying everyone on skype/discord if it's loud.

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>>60789376 here
it's still does the thingy with the arrows
should I just leave it be and wait more?

>>60811358
let it dry for another two days

>>60811378
ok I will trust you

>>60811394
Microwave it in rice

Okay, so the more time I spend on this, the more bullshit it seems
What the fuck is with choosing a mech keyboard, either they're all shit, or it literally doesn't matter
Is there a reason to buy WASD, DAS, Ducky keyboards that cost almost 200$ over some fuck knows what brand at <80$. Mech keyboards are meant to not break in years, decades, they don't have any fancy extra keys or shit, just LGBT lighting, what the fuck is with the price then, this shit is harder to choose than building a whole fucking PC

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>>60811517

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>>60811517
build your own

>>60801297
I dont use JIS layout myself, but when i type nip I use IME. You can either have it convert romaji to full on nipperino or have it emulate an actual jap keyboard. Just activate ime and go through the options

>>60811517
I'm in a similar position. Just using process of elimination based on features and reviews until I hone in on one that just werks. I wish I could lego one together like a PC
>buy frame from standarized options
>buy board that fits standard above
>buy switches of choice
>buy keycaps that fit switches and layout
but it doesn't seem like it will ever work that way because not enough people are as autistic as me.

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Filco Majestouch 2 and replace the keycaps with PBT or Leopold FC900R and call it a day?

>>60798316
What board anon
Been looking for a perfect 75

Do someone of you have an Acepad Hall Effect Keyboard?

>>60789192
>tfw have the ISO version
>no LOLITA print for me

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>>60812793
>use garbage layout
>get treated like garbage
Wooooow.

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I have this RGB GAYMING keyboard. What sort of pretty picture or pattern should I draw using the LEDs?

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>>60812909
ISO isn't garbage

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>>60813135
that's where you're mistaken

t. former iso user

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I'm drunk and it's a weekday

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Opinions on the Noppoo Choc Mini? I'm looking around for a smaller form factor keyboard, and that one seems pretty great with the soft numpad and NKRO.

>Budget
300€
>Location (continent at least)
Slovakia/EU
>Preferred switch type
Red/Brown/Black/Clear
>Layout
ISO
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
Prefer none

>>60789192
What's it cost to get something like this done? I wouldn't mind having a blank keyboard with a nice image over the keys.

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I should dust my older kbs, maybe put a cover over them when I store them
an ibuypower kb with kailh blue switches
an k70 with cherry brown (feels linear but not as good, angry I got this meme)
and a cleaner matias which is my daily
it was originally a tactile (quiet click) but I modded the leafs to be clicky by removing the tactile leafs
also learned if I arch the back of the leaves I am guaranteed a clicky sound
I also angled the leaf to make it stiffer
I am currently very happy with it

>>60812683
not yet
it's too early in it's development phase
it from the looks has a better key feel but bad key sound and quality control
It might have gotten better since the last batch of reviewers tried it out

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Why the h*ck are there no topre testers?

>>60789339
(You)

>>60811926
But that's exactly what a lot of people do in the hobby

>>60810078
You know there are other continents across the Atlantic

>>60814272
yeah, I live on one of them, in an isolationist country that has a liking to bullshit when it comes to importing things. The magicforce was seven bucks or so in shipping back when I ordered mine.

>>60800103
>>60801054
have your switches failed? I owned this keyboard too, and my a key would stop working so I soldered a new switch then my d key started to stop working

>>60814260
It's a good bit more complicated than PC assembly though.

>>60814387
The only thing more complicated is having to solder the switches and/or leds. What a lot of people do is buy holtites for the pcb. This let's the switches be hotswappable, and in most cases you don't even have to apply solder since the holtites snap in to the pcb (just be sure to check pcb compatibility before you attempt this method)

>>60814146
Because people buy topre regardless

Affordable 90%/tk/96key keyboards? Basically something like the cm qf tk. Happy to use taobao. I'll be putting in gateron browns.

>>60813508
Model M users are always drunk.

t. Model M user

>>60814528
great, and true, answer

>>60789192
WTF I LOVE MECHANICAL KEYBOARDS NOW

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>>60814528
I really like the idea of them but I want to feel one before spending a gorillian shekels on one. I hate capitalism sometimes.
D-Don't tell /k/ I said that.

>>60814146
The old cooler master switch tester had a topre switch on it.

http://www.cmstore.eu/peripheral/mechanical-keyboard-key-switch-tester-v2-free-shipping/

>>60813528
I really really like mine

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>>60789192
gateron browns.
i love it so far

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How'd I do /g/?

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>>60815552
Well that's neat, and horrible.
I can get an entire Topre keyboard for the same price as this rare collectable.

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>>60815906
You clearly know nothing of the gouging this money sink of a hobby allows.

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>>60815867

>>60814085
Are that bad then?
Well, I would look at the IBM Model Meme then.

>>60816035
not sure tbqh
but from what I gather of the few reviews it is definitely a still in development product

>>60816048
I watched the review of Chyrosran22 and I was pretty impresed. He said that the only downside was the strange sound of the spacebar.

>>60816127
Then try it

>>60815969
Can't you literally make your own for like $5
With a 3D printer
Or a fucking knife or chisel or something if you're into that kind of shit

Then because you only made one you sell it as "rare" for $500?
Is this a new business model?

>>60816264
Literally audiophile garbage tier

>>60811517
get a rosewill rk9000 or one of the cheaper duckys.

>>60816264
Only if your resume shows at least 5 years of work as a keycap artisan, with references, and preferably at least a bachelor's in computer science.

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>>60816264
Those are sold by scalpers. The original keycap sold for 20-30 bucks like pic related

>>60790855
wrong board

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Can someone please ID this keyboard?

>Budget
up to 100
>Location (continent at least)
UK
>Preferred switch type
unsure - do more gaming than writing atm but need it for work soon, would like to be able to switch different types
>Layout
preferable German due to ä,ü,ö
>Form factor
prefered 75% or if needed tenkeyless/full
>Backlight
dimmable white LED
>Previous/current keyboards
shitty dell/hp rubber

I've been using a Ducky keyboard since last year, and it's been doing stupid shit ever since I owned it.

If I hold down the Z or X keys too long, then a few key LEDs light up and when I try to hold down a button, say for gaming, instead of doing a continuous input, the key will stutter, and not in a steady pace as if it was "rapid firing," rather it's all fuckin random as shit.

Furthermore, when I hit the A or M keys, among several others, very often my keyboard will input the key more than once, at most five fucking times from one press.

So, if /mkg/ could help me, I'd like a mechanical keyboard in either red or blue switches, USB wired, preferably with no backlights, in either 80 percent, tenkeyless or full size, for under 60 dollars, that will last me three years or more without malfunction. Does /mkg/ have any recommendations?

>>60816699
looks like a regular-ass filco

>>60816882
Cherry shit is shit. They are designed to have basic keychatter issues like what you are describing, and no matter what cherry keyboard you buy it will always chatter. If you want better more durable switches get something capacitive

>>60816699
Diatec Filco Majestouch (2?) in a KOBO Carbon White frame.

my spacebar is fucking up a lot, it like gets stuck on one end and i have to press it down real hard on the other side so it would fix
wat do

>>60817103
just clean all the cum out from there. If that doesn't work use lube

>>60817103
If it's a gaming keyboard just give it a quick spritz of mountain dew to refresh it.

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Clean artisan keycaps that don't look like impossible to press monstrosities?

Any places that do Intl shipping like Ali or Ebay selling full sets of Blank Black key caps?

I found this one but isn't a 100% set:
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/61-Key-Cap-Keyboard-Switch-Blank-Profile-Thick-PBT-Keycaps-Side-Printed-Top-Printed-for-Cherry/32813651937.html

>>60789394
no the rice shit is a myth perpetuated by iphone repair sites that have no idea how tech works and just act as a middle man between the customer and apple.

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>>60817357
I'm also cheap as fuck because pic related, everything I need to times 3.3 to match local hue currency.

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>>60817336
Regular custom keycaps. Artisan keycap makers are the code baristas of the industry.

>>60817438
Artisan keycaps are way cheaper then custom keycaps. A GMK set will run you 150 bucks, while an artisan one costs 10-15 bucks. There are ones that are made from CNC machines that cost triple the price, but those are still a lot cheaper, and will last longer then whatever ABS those dumb germans shit out.

>>60817521
>10-15 for a full set of artisans

I'm not sure you quite understand the subject of discussion here.

>>60813089
>Romer-G switches

Gross.

Obvious answer is a rainbow dick.

>>60817675
Go on ebay or etsy you'll find plenty under 50 bucks with most in the $20 range. Stay away from those hipsters on geekhack I'll give you that since those fuckers are insane.

>>60817681
I'll draw a rainbow dick and post pics if someone gives me an actual good suggestion.

>>60817816
Since you have no originality just copy what other people have done
http://makerhub.coolermaster.com/custom-lighting/
Baa Baaa, now go on sheep Baa Baa

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Anyone make stock keyboards with this layout at a reasonable price? Not looking for any customs.

>>60818021
Leopold 980M is the only one

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unf

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>>60817681
>>60817848
No one can say I didn't try to deliver.

>>60818148
SO... THIS... IS THE POWER OF THE PC

Real talk, that's some weak shit. If you're going for the gaymer LRGBT aesthetic go big or go home. Full key by key underlighting like those pimped out street cars, seperate internal lighting for the characters, and a light strip around each island of keys.

Anyone know if USB Realforces are PS/2 compliant with an adapter?

>>60818021
See
>>60795790
Also its nice these threads have finally hit the bump limit after a week of slow down

>>60818431
They are not.
6KRO, USB only, $200 membrane keyboard.

>>60818021
ooh I like that layout

>>60819002
That exact layout is Leeku's CP, you can buy a PCB from him directly over email and get an acrylic case cut or wait for the next group buy of exceedingly expensive Korean customs using it.

>>60819083
I'm not in the market right now, just saying, it's really nice
smaller like an 80% but functionality of a 100%
reminds me of the coolermaster, but more interesting

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>>60811517
Just buy pic related, shut up and kiss me.

Why do so many mechanical keyboards have the mini usb cable shit? whats the point just one more thing to break

>>60820054
Detachable cables mean if the cable fails, you can just replace it. As for mini USB specifically, I think it's a combination of design inertia, micro USB cables breaking if you look at them funny and Type-C not being properly established yet.

I just had a dream about model Ms, how fucked am I?