Intel are getting it in the neck from all sides. https://ww

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>>60770697
Brit

>>60770697
Tides are changing. These guys can feel it.

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>>60770697
X299 is getting hammered by a lot of reviewers, and they're not even talking about the more Jewy things like paying more to unlock RAID functionality.

>>60770978
Intel should have learned their lesson years ago: Don't mess with a contract Keller.

>tfw in the first time in a decade I'm actually starting to take AMD seriously
feels kinda nice actually

>>60770697

I admit that Intel are fucking up right now, but that guy is legit the worst fucking hardware reviewer on youtube (that I've seen, at least). Biased as fuck, barely competent at best.

>>60771565
The fact that Zen took out most of Intel's consumer lineup as collateral damage is impressive on it's own. It's real target has always been the server room. It's gonna get ugly.

>>60771603
Now we need Hardware Unboxed to proclaim X299 is a big fat mess and it's official, amirite?

>>60771613
We'll see on the server-side. So far Intel has been pretty dominant there and they haven't been stagnating like they have with their consumer offerings. Honestly I see AMD as having a much better chance on the consumer-side.

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>>60770697
>>60770760
>>60771423

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>>60771649
You're kidding, right? What does Intel have to beat Epyc? It's 32 cores that scale near linearly. Intel's slow-ass power hungry ringbus Xeons are gonna get crushed.

>>60771692
im tempted to make a dual socket ebyc workstation pc just cause

>>60771649
>ebin 3bingbus abortions
Lmao. Intel are literally conceding 1S and 2S market to AMD. That leaves that with glorious 8% 4S+ marketshare.

>>60771692
This thing will be able to run off 160w of power and be as powerful as 4 x5650 dual socket systems. Fucking insane.

>>60770697
buy ad space, you fucking cunt

>>60771726
1S I agree with. 2S is probably going to be a slugfest. 4S AMD doesn't seem to have anything for right now.

>>60771768
Intel's 28c offering is only for 4S+ systems. They are conceding 2S market too.

>>60771783
what? 8890v4 would work in a dual socket board

>>60771861
You're not going to buy E7 for 2S boards.

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>nvidia owns deskop
>amd owns apus and consoles along dedicated laptop gpus
>qualcomm/broadcomm owns mobile and servers
>mips owns radios and low powered embedded stuff
>TI owns graphic calcs and medical equiptment

>intel owns at dead IGPUs when they overheat and slide on BGA (why the fuck did they change from sockets)


I hear they are trying to buy IP from amd for their laptop gpus but that could just be chit-chat

>>60771692
>You're kidding, right? What does Intel have to beat Epyc? It's 32 cores that scale near linearly. Intel's slow-ass power hungry ringbus Xeons are gonna get crushed
When are they going to announce pricing and clocks for epyc? They are supposed to start selling them on the 20th.

>>60771724
>64c
>128t
>possibly 1TB of RAM or more
Imagine

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>>60771962
the coolest thing about Epyc that people arent talking about is the GPU MMU chip they added to allow GPUs to communicate directly on a seperate bus instead of going to the CPU and re-routing

also their nic are routed throught the CPU instead of a chip meaning that they could theoretically reach 10Gib/s and not be limited by a controller

i can only imagine rendering farms with 4+ gpus every node (pc)

the mathematical computational capabilities T_T

>mfw intel licenses x86 to NVIDIA as a last resort

here goes the competition, lmao.

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>>60772060
but nvidia pays royalties to AMD for x86-64

also AMD is already in with Vulkan/freesync

also fuck pic related who even uses raid?

just use ZFS Zraid

we just need coreboot now!

>>60771692
muh FUD tho. the ring bus is shit, but we already know it scales to at least 64 cores without issue

>>60772089
x86 belongs to intel. x86-64 is just an extension that belongs to amd.

>>60772089
anybody using RAID isn't going to use shitty onboard RAID anyway, it's pretty much moot

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>>60772060
>>60772089
intel pays royalties*

>>60772106
agreed

>>60772101
thats just 32 bit though
-64 was the standard settled on after competition with IA

>>60772060
the only way they're licensing x86 further than they already have is in a liquidation agreement

>>60772125
still, you need to pay royalties to Intel for x86 ISA, whether you go 32-bit or 64. Intel holds the rights to manufacture CPUs with x86 set, AMD is an exception because they had to license it due to competition rules etc.

>>60772139
good point

by that time arm will have caught up enough

who knows maybe even MIPS64 / RISC-V will be useable

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>>60772096
>it scales to at least 64 cores without issue
>without issue

>>60772031
I have my cryptocoin shekels ready to buy one but will they be $1600 like previous high end opterons or $4000 like intel xeons?

I wish they would announce details and motherboards.

>>60772096
>10 core SkylakeX scores like shit with high clocks
>Bingbus scales to 64 cores no problem
Just no

>>60771634
don't talk shit about steve hes a nice guy.

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>>60770697

>mfw two of the top dog intel shills have turned and is now recommending AMD Ryzen and Threadripper

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>>60772096

How do you fit a CPU cooler rated for 800W TDP inside a server case?

WHERES MUH VEGA REEEEEEEEEEE

I R WAITING TOO LONG

I NEEED

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>>60772031
I just want to know if I'll be able to overclock it.
QuadFX version 2, when?

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>>60771423
>Don't mess with a contract Keller.
10/10, I laughed out loud for real right now.

>>60775081
When will !BE/4wes0mE either kill itself or switch sides?

>>60775132
You don't want anyone to rush out new arch, anon.

>>60775109
1. Make it out of copper instead of shit metals
2. Blast it with fucking air

Server CPU coolers are generally small enough to only be the size of the socket footprint and maybe at most 1" tall.
When I blast it with fucking air, I don't mean some puny consumer fan, I mean fans that you need hearing protection to be around according OHSA.

>>60775132

Apple bought the first couple of batches to put inside the new iMac Pro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Bv8Mxnnlc

>having to delid™ your $2000 CPU
Shintelfags will defend this.

>>60775388

are Xeons this way aswell? Server grade Intel chips use soldering, right???????

>>60775716
No they don't. Xeons run at low tempa regardles.

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>>60771423
>contract Keller

>>60775742
No, Xeons can get just as hot as any other CPUs. Some have relatively low TDPs, but there are models with extremely high power output.

>>60775751
Tdp is not what you think it is, xeons run at low clocks and voltages so the cores don't get too hot.

>>60771960
They have to get the licenses from somewhere as they didn't renew their contract with Nvidia.

>>60775771
They run at low clocks to keep them inside thermal thresholds with the amount of cores they run. More cores = more power = more heat production. Having a shit load of slow cores is the same as having a couple really fast cores. Having the clocks lowered does not negate the fact that you're running in excess of 10 cores. It just mitigates the need for excessive cooling. Xeons have always had soldered ihs' and the next gen would be the very first time this isn't the case if they decide to drop that from their manufacturing process entirely. The soldered ihs is literally why they tend to run cooler in the first place.

>>60777304
Because Intel spent bank to develop their own iGPUs

>>60779064
Fug wrong image. Meant to post image of ryzen recommendation from google app.

>>60775235
Submerge it in mineral oil

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>>60779117
Wonder what the boiling point is.

>cheapest cpu is a 1151 strapped on to make it work on a 2066 socket.
>only has 16 pcie lanes.

its a fucking joke. together with the raid key.

on the other side ALL amd cpus have 64 fucking PCIE lanes.

thats 2 graphics card at 16x each and 8 fucking M.2 Nvme drives running at full speed.

or 16 m.2 drives if you really wanted to go absolute madman and copy files instantly.

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>>60780596

>>60771724
I'm tempted too
>VM as workstation/Gaymen Rig
>torrent box
>NAS
>backup server
>other shit like a exit node for tor
>all in one
The future is marvellous.

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These daily AMD shill threads are so pathetic.

Yes yes surely AMD will BTFO Intel this time...

Meanwhile in reality

>>60780701
>steam hardware survey
>relevant
half the users are ruskis with old pentium and core 2 machines that can barely play cs or dota

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>>60780701
How many times are you going to post this shit? You post it like every day, and you get BTFO every day. Are you just mentally retarded?

>>60780803
The hilarity that AMD shills post this thinking it's a good thing

Jesus christ AMD stands absolutely no chance.

>>60772106
it's not onboard it's on the CPU.

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>>60780845

>>60780845
The amount of damage control from shilltel is just pathetic. Red line will continue to go up, blue line will continue to go down. Deal with it.

>>60770697
>implying

Next year they'll be sporting the 18-core Skylake-X for their workstations and benchmark rigs.

None of the major reviewers actually use a Ryzen rig for their day to day, that alone speaks volumes. The hardware DLC thumb drive is still bullshit though and Intel deserves to be shat down for that.

>>60780924
No, they'll be using Threadrippers. Ryzen 5/7 are mainstream platform.

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>>60780924
>Next year they'll be sporting the 18-core Skylake-X for their workstations and benchmark rigs.
That shit will get flat out beaten by 16 core TR for half the price. lol

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>>60771724
No man should have all that power.

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intel is israeli intel

>>60770697
Has AMD increased the PR/brainwash budget or is Intel paying these puppets so they end up looking like the underdog this round?

>>60781151
There's a third option here, and that's that you're a stupid dipshit.

>>60781175
Put your trip back on beawesome.

>>60781219
beawesome is a hardcore Intel shill, crackhead.

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>>60780803
>>60780845
Here's the updated one :^)

>>60781240
H-hey, how did you know I was a crackhead? I never mentioned that here...

>>60781175
Not possible. I have a PhD in mathematics.

>>60781151
Intel increased their R&D on total bullshit, facepalmingly stupid product decisions, and it's paying off in spades.

>>60777401
>Having a shit load of slow cores is the same as having a couple really fast cores.

In terms of performance yes, in terms of power usage and waste heat no. Lower clocks have much higher power efficiency in most cases. It takes a lot more power to drive high clocks than it does low clocks and the increase is not even close to linear.
This is the very reason why all high performance servers have a large number of cores at low clocks.

For example I have a 72W Xeon with 12 cores and 24 threads running at 2.3GHz.
A 6 core i7-6800K could never achieve the same power consumption at 4.6GHz which is what it needs to get roughly the same performance with half the threads.
Oh and that's even with the 14nm process advantage it has over my 22nm.

>>60781148
in tel aviv

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>>60771423
>contact Keller

>>60780701
>Feb 2017

Ryzen launched March 2017, so yeah, didn't do much to marketshare by February

>>60770697
intel fears the 16 core JEWRIPPER cpu.

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>>60782675
Telavivripper is gonna shitcan X299 harder than Ryzen 7 fucked up X99.

>>60782703
Ryzen 7 even fucked up 270 and 170

How many panes does non threadripper ryzen have?

>>60771962
Probably on the 19th then.

>>60772349
The margins for EPYC will be high. Like, really high. Intel can't compete against EPYC, so there's no need to undercut them.

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I always loved underdogs. Its about time AMD shits on Intel.

>>60783544
80% yields. $110-$120 per Threadripper 16 core. They could practically give their shit away and still make a profit.

Watching Intel lost their shit is entertaining.
Serves them right for not making a proper CPU since Sandy bridge.

I'll be waiting for something to replace me 2600K

>>60781125
>No man should have all that power.
Good thing I'm a little girl.

>>60784393
Dual socket Epyc + programmer socks when?

>>60780924

Tech City switched to Ryzen faggot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc81xKa6w4A

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>>60771423
>contract Keller

>>60784620
And in the OP video JayzTwoCents says he's going to go back to using Ryzen.

>>60772060
>nvidia can only build 32 bit processors because x86_64 is AMD's IP
wew

>>60784777
Wait, nVidia is not Intel and cross-licensing deal does not include them lmao.

>>60784844
I know, the retard I quoted implied that Intel could license x86 to nvidia in order to kill amd.

>>60784864
>NVIDIA
They can't even design ARM cores for shit. x86 and NVIDIA will result in second coming of NetBurst.

AMD has always let us down in recent years, so while I'm hoping for the best to kick Intel down a few notches and see some actual competition, I'm not getting my hopes up. I'll wait a few months after the release to see if it lives up to the hype.

>>60784923
Ryzen is already here. It kicks some major ass. It's so efficient Intel's mobile division should probably panic.

>Gamers Nexus is silent about this

who /not surprised/ here? Fucking intel shill

>>60770697
if he shave his head,
he looks like wojak.

>>60784979
There's no way Steve can defend his master this time. He can only stay silent.

>>60784882
if you can't design, just use the reference design from arm.

>>60785001
They did, and Tegra was shit on one used. Also housefire.

>>60784979

He's too busy trying to put MSI reps on blast for "bloat".

>>60781151
Intel spent too much time comfortable and got complacent, every CPU generation was very incremental improvements.
Alot of this has to do with hyperthreading tech originally licensed from a (public) university that wouldn't sell to AMD

>>60784882
>second coming of NetBurst
Nah, they will full PowerPC 970

>>60780596

The only reason that i7-7740 and i7-7720 exist is because Intel is having significant yielding issues with Skylake-X. They can't get enough silicon to meet market demands for HEDT platform. They were forced to use existing Kaby Lake stock and repackaged it as a Socket 2066 part.

Kaby-Lake-X is the "Celeron" of the HEDT platform. It only makes sense if you want to invest in Socket 2066 platform and plan on getting a "cheap/used" Skylake-X or its successor drop-in upgrade down the road.

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>>60785222
>X299
>demand
Ohohohoh wow.

>>60785110

Nah, the problem is that Intel was relying too much on its superior fab tech to overcome the yielding issue.

14nm process sucks at making massive monolith chips. It is better suited for smaller, power efficient stuff which is why it fares so much better with regular Skylake/Kaby Lake stuff.

>>60785191
Threadly reminder that this guy is a tripfag from /o/ that showed up spouting the most retarded Intel shilling known to man. https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/search/tripcode/%21%211w3SeuwCso0/

>>60785243

Motherboard vendors aren't going to making X299 boards if there hardly any Socket 2066 chips in the market.

Kaby-Lake X is the unfortunate result of this. It was planned well before Ryzen was launch. Intel was trying to hide its yielding problems with 14nm process.

>>60785191
paying for reviews is a felony tripfag.
AMD did create a better alternative. it's not the one YOU want (because it has more than 4 cores), but it's a better alternative.

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>>60785360

Ok amd you got one more customer.
Thank /g

>>60771423
>paying more to unlock RAID functionality.
Linus actually railed on them for that.

>>60770697
When Intel decides to be stupid, the world mocks them for it.

>>60771692
Allegedly Intel is planning on releasing a 32-core competitor chip. If it actually appears it would win in IPC but I have my doubts on it being anything but vaporware at this point. AMD designed the Zen arch to be extremely scalable, if they wanted to they could tack on more Zen cores.

>>60772349
They're going to be cheaper than Xeons. AMD has no problem severely undercutting Intel.

>>60786460
Their 18 core Xeons already look like they're going to lose to 16 core Threadripper.

>>60785191
they don t have to perform better if they cost HALF and perform the same . also fuck off intel shill , LINUS has always been pro intel

>>60771565
iktfb

>>60786517
In market share? No question, AMD will wipe the floor with Intel. After a certain point, performance per watt outweighs maximum performance. Sure, the 18-core might manage to be faster, but who the fuck is going to pay double the price of the 16-core?

>>60786864
No, in actual performance, too. See >>60781113

Take the cinebench score of the 1800X and multiply by two, that's about where it will end up in the 3100-3200 range.

>>60786880
Damn, it's a shutout then.

>>60770697
~transition~

>>60784393
>Good thing I'm a little girl.
On /g/ we are all little girls.

>>60786880
Oh man that's delicious. It's gonna be a fun couple of years.

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Will these new CPU's help me play dwarf fortress for longer without my fort exploding? They just seem to be adding cores and threads and shit. I want advances in single core performance in order to keep up with dwarf-tech.

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>Intel pushing quadcore kabylake rebrands on different socket and motherboard

FOR WHAT REASON? ARE THEY THAT DESPERATE FOR SHEKELS? THEY SHOULD'VE JUST PUT KABY LAKE X ON THE LGA 1151 SOCKET

>>60787535
Everything must have a SKU even if it barely makes sense.

>>60786517
>heir 18 core Xeons already look like they're going to lose to 16 core Threadripper.

Is this the Ryzen pre-launch meme again where AMD fanboys overhype their shit only to get smacked down by reality?

The only thing Threadripper has over Skylake-X are price and muh PCIE lanes that barely anybody ever maxes out, it will tie along with Skylake 12/14-core and get swept by the trio that will arrive next year.

Same shit, different day.

>>60787511
for DF you'll want to get an 7700k, turn off 2 cores AND hyperthreading, delid it and overclock it to the roof with the better cooling solution you can find, then pair it with the fastest memory with lowest cas latency you can find, and even after all that your game will still become unplayable given enough time on a fortress

>>60787588
>hurr durr I'm retarded and forgetting everything know about the zen arch

>>60787588
Skylake-X 18c will probably perform better for single threaded stuff since I expect the two core boost will be very aggressive-- certainly over 4.2ghz. However, I doubt very much that Intel will be able to get those chips to clock higher than 3ghz on all cores, which means Threadripper at 3.5ghz, which is conservative for the 16c part, certainly has a chance to be as good or better at multithreaded workloads. Couple that with the PCIe lanes and lower price and you've got a workstation chip that Intel has no answer for.

I sure as fuck ain't gonna buy a $1000 cpu. I'd spend $500 tops, and another $500 on a good mobo.

>>60786427
wow he really did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWFzWRoVNnE

pretty damning

>>60770697
Who cares about this British opinion, that guy doesn't even lift.

>>60771603
Youtube "reviewers" are essentially a combination of entertainers and marketers.

There is also a dynamic to this which is hard to see, if you repeatedly absolutely slaughter a company's products then they wont' be sending you things to review anymore. You would have to have a pretty big channel to make enough money to outright buy the products you want to review and even those who make enough money to do it don't.

>>60771960
>I hear they are trying to buy IP from amd
You heard wrong. Yes, I heard that too but AMD came out and said it was a totally made-up rumor.

>>60787674
Id mock the price you're willing to pay if it weren't for the Intel boards needing a $300 key for RAID 5

>>60787716
>anons will watch this video and still legitimately believe he's paid by Intel to shill them

>>60787802
You can only go so far before it's obvious
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpus,3986.html

>>60771960
>>60787758
I don't think Lisa Su said there were no patent deals with Intel; I think she said that AMD was not going to give Intel their APU tech. What I read ages ago is that when Intel started building iGPUs, they had no GPU patents, which left them vulnerable to lawsuits, so they were licensing patents from Nvidia. My understanding was that those patent deals are coming to an end soon and Intel is interested in getting a new deal with AMD. That doesn't mean Intel gets any AMD APU tech, but it does mean they can point to some patents if someone tries to sue them.

>>60787827
Didn't TH get called out years ago for falsifying their results of a cooler test to make Intel look better than AMD?

I get that LTT does a lot of sponsored videos (otherwise how else would they afford tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment a year + other costs) but I doubt Linus actually shills for any specific company. I could be wrong though. That's business I guess.

>>60781818
Not low clocks actually, but low voltages that come with them

>>60787887
It's all implied. Basically you fuck us over, no more free shit.
Normally this wouldn't work with most people. But reviewers are in it for the free shit.

There needs to be a third party body to handle this issue. But how would such a thing function.

>>60787934
Yeah that is a very good point. I suppose he'll probably have a lot of AMD reviews in the works with the new CPUs that it won't matter if Intel doesn't give him many free ones.

>>60787511
>aboveground fortress
BURN THE HERETIC

>>60780730
???
Steam is the biggest digital PC game distributor and those surveys are mostly very telling of the PC gaming hardware distribution

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>>60785191
Switched from a 6700k to a 1700x
This thing is fucking incredible and I feel absolutely disgusted in myself for shitting on Ryzen while I had my i7, I was completely wrong and know I really realize that anyone who says that r7 is garbage truly is just an un-informed shill

>>60785191
That's because not even intel shills could defend intel's abortions.

>>60770697
It's over. Apple is going to buy Intel.

>>60788544
Mactoddler fuck off

>>60770697
>all this amd shilling

Daily reminder AMD has Secure Processor Technology which is just as much of a cancer as Intel's Management Engine. Both are shit and will impede your freedom.

>>60788010
Well yeah Ryzen is better in pretty much every way, everyone knows this

>>60789304
Doesnt' change the fact that intel is infinitely shittier.

>>60787934
paid reviews are a felony in the USA comrade.
Stop being butthurt.

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>>60787716
>Was expecting Linus Torvalds
>Get some retard instead

JUST

>>60789269
Nice one

>>60789304
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Make way Jews. Based Terry is building a new Ryzen system.

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>>60780845

>>60789615
It called we "loan" you this gear but we might want it back

>>60790266
No. That's called a review sample. A lot of the time, they ask for the parts back.
You can't review a product if you don't have it on hand. That's like reviewing a sports car having only seen one in another country.
>but this is jewery/bribery.
No. It's called reality. Take the fucking tin foil hat off.

>>60770697
BUM
U
M

What did Intel do to deserve this bashing all over the internet? Literally nothing

>>60790433
Well, yes. They literally did nothing for last 10 years or so.

>>60790433
People are sick of fucking kikes.

>>60790433
They've stagnated. Every new CPU release is just a slight refresh of the previous gen, going back 10 years.
Intel did NOTHING. That's why they're getting bashed.
And Intel overcharging for bullshit during that time because they had no legitimate competitors.
Then Ryzen came along and
fucked
shit
up.
The pricing of Ryzen was disruptive. Want the performance of a 6900k but don't want to spend a fucking grand to get an 8 core CPU? Now you have an option for the same or better performance for half the price, literally.
This is all coming from a company that was considered an also-ran for the past 10 years. but unlike Intel, AMD got off their ass and spent billions in engineering to disrupt the market. And they came out when Intel wasn't paying any attention. So now Intel is panicking because they can't properly compete with AMD numerous Ryzen-based offerings, including Threadripper and Epyc.
We are seeing a changing of the tides here, and the shills are not pleased.
Ryzen did what it was designed to do. Disrupt the market and fuck shit up.

>>60771649
I work for a medium company doing IT support for ~50 small to medium business.
My boss wouldn't even consider AMD for severs when he's known Xeons have worked well enough for the last decade unfortunately

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>>60782632

>>60781125
As i look down at my diamond encrusted piece

>>60790433
>Literally nothing
>falsifing tests to make bentium look better
>fined for anticompetitive practices still hasn't payed
im sure someone else can fill the rest

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>>60787588
ADD MOAR BINGBUS :-------D

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>>60787588
>Is this the Ryzen pre-launch meme again where AMD fanboys overhype their shit only to get smacked down by reality?
Yep, Ryzen got hyped up so hard and then only ended up matching the $1000 i7-6900K for half the price. What a disappointment! http://imgur.com/a/wMm1C

>>60790433
You're kidding, right? /g/ has been bashing Intel constantly even when there wasn't any real competitive motivation to do so.

>>60791359
People put up with Intel's bullshit because there was no alternative. Now there is, so you're seeing a lot more backlash.

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>>60787588
Zen scales 1.99 from 8c/16t to 16c/32t, meaning it's going to score about 1.99 of an 1800x in every multi-threaded benchmark.

P.S. That's faster than any single socket Xeon on the market.

>>60791448
b-but muh 4.5 GHz turbo on two cores (let's ignore that TR turbos to 4.1 GHz and doesn't require every other core to be idle lol)

>>60787661
>>>60787588
>Skylake-X 18c will probably perform better for single threaded stuff since I expect the two core boost will be very aggressive-- certainly over 4.2ghz.

I'm not sure the answer here is obvious since Threadripper is rumored to have the 2:1 Infinity Fabric speeds of Epyc and thus should have higher IPC than Ryzen, and it's the be stepping so it may be able to XFR higher as well.

>>60791287
EBYN :DDDDDDDDDD

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>>60787331
hi /g/irls

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>>60770697
Wait for Basin Falls
Wait for Cannonlake
Wait for new arch in 2021

>>60791448
>2p
There needs to be a better way, maybe two sided motherboard with CPU pins soldered to each other directly?

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>>60793030
Wait for 10nm .. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/06/ibm-5nm-chip/

oh.

>>60787535

They need enough product to meet motherboard vendor demands for Socket 2066 motherboards. Skylake-X probably has significant yielding issues. They are forced to convert regular Kaby Lake silicon to Socket 2066 to meet market demand.

>>60787535
>>60793287
One other theory I heard is they are pushing everything OC-able on to their HEDT platform and removing K series from mainstream entirely. But I don't know if they could get away with that.

>>60793030
>just wait!

Wasn't that supposed to be the AMD line though?

>>60793449
thatsthejoke.avi

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>>60781251
>the exact same graph

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>>60771423

Being a non-english speaker is kind of a bitch sometimes

>What's so funny about contract Keller? I don't see the-ooooooohh

>>60789713
Where/when did he say this?

>>60771603
The way he reviews or if he's a paid shill does not matter in this conversation. Fact is intel has fucked up.

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>>60793138
MOTHERFUCKING DELET THIS 5NM IS IMPOSSIBLE FUCKING NAZIS FROM IBM REMEMBER 6 GORILLION GOYIM

>>60790347
The Intel optane reviews (on anandtech at least) were done remotely

>>60790433
Get out new fag

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>>60791965
h-hi senpai

>>60794129
Then that's not a review. It's a preview, or just going over specs.

>>60780924
I use a Ryzen and it's so much better than my i7

Runs so much cooler too

>>60790433
they charge Jewish prices and you get nothing for paying it

>>60790850
>Q1
Q2 will be interesting