Dare I say, this is now /our/g/uy? >18 Core Xeon >128GB

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>>60764299
Oh forgot about the industry standard 5k monitor :^)

>>60764299
>throttles after 3 seconds at 100% CPU or GPU

>>60764299
>Apple cramming Xeons and Vegas together
This unholy union should not be allowed.

There's no way this thing is costing less than $10,000

So is this the Mac Pro replacement and Apple's just not going to have a standalone desktop now?

>>60764326
>Throttles
Prove it. It's not even out yet.

>>60764365
Starting at a low, low price of $4,999.

(you just get quad core Xeon with the lowest-spec, completely gimped Vega at that price though)

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>>60764365
4,999 with 8

>>60764390
No, Mac Pro is coming next year. This was to address the needs of Pro users this year.

>>60764393
It's in a tiny iMac chassis.

There just isn't enough space in that chassis for proper cooling.

Current iMacs throttle like mad with laptop GPUs.

How do you think a full-pledged desktop Vega is going to do in that tiny "MUH THINNESS" chassis?

>>60764416

18 core version will be like $12,999 mark my fucking words

>>60764480
Well yeah, isn't the xeon 18 core like $6,000?

>>60764299
>>Vega
Is this why AMD kept Vega under wraps for so long?

>>60764455
They changed the thermals.

If you look behind it, they took out the RAM module and expanded the heatsink and fans.

I have a 2015 iMac fully loaded for FCPX and it doesn't have a throttling issue, although fans do kick it in at 100% CPU usage (which happens during exporting not all the time).

I check Intel Power Gadget and it's not throttling.

I know the 2014 had throttling issues.

>>60764299
impossible not to overheat

epeen nothing more

>>60764501

yeah my bad, it's going to cost at least $20k

>>60764552
Most people don't need 18 cores. These are meant for post production houses, hence the included 10GbE connection.

>>60764299
>Jet engine fans to keep parts cool and will still overheat
Wew lad.

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>>60764299
It looks amazing. Only Apple makes things beautiful on the inside and on the outside!

>>60764299
I can already hear the sound of fans.

>>60764640
Will this magic blue light make iMac Pro not to catch fire?

>using intel
>in that form factor
>in the heat of Netburst 2.0
Apple should start to bring Ryzen Macs

>>60764662
>catch fire
apple makes their computers out of aluminum and glass. that shit doesn't catch fire.

>>60764716
Insides will melt then.

>>60764694
>Gayzen
>Macs

Not gonna happen since there's no Thunderbolt on Gayzen.

Go be poor somewhere else.

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>>60764716

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>>60764736
Since shitbolt is royalty-free starting 2018, you only have to Just Wait and enjoy throttling 308w housefire abortions.

>>60764736
Thunderbolt can perfectly deployed on Ryzen systems.
Go to be a corelet space heater somewhere.

>>60764716
What are wires and circuit boards? Oh, you guessed it, flammable!

>All in an AIO
How is that a positive?

>>60764733
>Insides will melt then.
PCBs are literally made of fiberglass.

>>60764790
>wires
HAHAHAH... you've obviously NEVER seen an inside of a Mac.

>>60764532
>They changed the thermals.
You simply can't fit a heatsink with enough thermal mass in such a small enclosure. Toothpaste TIM will make the matters even worse.

>>60764767
AMD is retarded, it's probably gonna try to do it's own version of TB.

>>60764299
>"Pro"
>glossy screen
>still the same unmaintainable, ugly, and impossible to upgrade piece of shit
no thx

>>60764797
It's for studios without much space. Every production house I've worked in has rented gay ass Leltel systems and no user ever touches the insides, the IT just swaps out with a new one if there's a problem.

So AIOs are great for studios, especially production houses.

>>60764843
And will be glorious.
>>60764849
>pro must be matte
And new apple screens are that glossy anymore.

>>60764843
Why? They always adopt open standards, see VESAs Adaptive Sync. You've mistaken them for NVIDIA.

>>60764840
Did you even see the heatsink size in OP?

The back of the iMac is fat, so it's probably a super deep heatsink.

I used to have a 12 core Mac Pro (the cheese-grater ones) and they ran really cool and the heatsinks were massive. I even took it apart to upgrade the Xeons from ones I bought on eBay.

>>60764904
These Mac Pros are awesome and nice. Hopefully Apple will bring back their spirit next years.

>>60764532
>they took out the RAM module
So, no more upgrading RAM on this platform either?

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>>60764980
No, it looks like the RAM isn't soldered, but upgrading will require to take the back off somehow.

Also who the fuck upgrades RAM later? It's a fucking workstation. You get 32GB/64GB and you're good to go and don't need to update.

>>60764980
...look at the op's pic. pretty sure those are upgradable sodimm modules

>>60764998
They are. My bad.

>>60765024
i-it's fine anon.

>>60764299
this is just an imac created exclusively for mkbhd and the nig crowd

prove me wrong

To everyone taking the typical Reddit "Apple veri suk" mindset:

Build a similarly specced computer for less than the base model.

Dont forget the screen autists.

>>60765090
Ok let me prove you wrong.

>99% of movies and motion graphics are done on Macs.
>99% of music production is done on Macs
>99% of Design related work is done on Macs

Did I prove you wrong yet?

Microshit desperately tries to eat up the creative pro industry but they can't because everyone hates Winshit.

>>60764390
I imagine it's a combination of stopgap until proper Mac Pros next year. And trying stuff out for the iMac line ... think of like how Tesla did a sports car first. They intentionally came out with a smaller market product so they can deal with issues on a smaller scale and provide better service before releasing to a wider market.

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>>60764299
>macshit

>>60765162
Umm most architecture and design work is done on PCs.

>>60765171
That's always been how Apple functioned.

They made the iPhone first instead of the iPad because it's easier to go from small to big than big to small.

I don't see how /g/ always hates on Apple when in fact they're doing everything right.

>>60765162
>>60765162
>because everyone hates Winshit.
the whole art music and design on macs meme was over easily 10 years ago, mate
the only people that truly uses macs in a 'pro' environment are youtubers
and even those guys end up buying a real computer, a real display, real storage

i can't argue the thing is beautiful, but you can't get THAT limited using something at that price point, while being literally un-upgradeable

>>60765221
It's an AIO using off-shelf hardware. There's nothing special about it. There's no difference between it and any normal workstation besides throttling.

>>60765249
I visit hundreds of architecture and design studios a year and they almost all use PC. The people creating the world you live in are doing it on PC at least.

>>60765249
>No one in the pro creative market uses Winshit. nice try though, paki from the UK.
>No kys poorfag
another meme: buying apple makes you wealthy
you are just bumping the thread
if you believe hollywood movies are mastered using an iMac.... well
im out

>>60765221
Development on the iPad actually started first. Then they decided it wasn't feasible at the time and shelved it, then thought it might make for a good phone.


>I don't see how /g/ always hates on Apple when in fact they're doing everything right.
All they understand are spec sheets and think products go from idea to store shelves in 8 weeks.

>>60765269
>off-shelf hardware

There's nothing off the shelf about this thing.

>5k LCD (best in industry)
>Xeons (server grade, they don't sell this shit in Best Buy)
>ECC RAM
>Vega (not even out yet)
>Custom PCB
>Custom cooling
>macOS

Just kys.

>>60765151
You need wait until December to match same components.

>>60765293
It's literally usual OEM parts in teeny housefire-enabling chassis.

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>>60764299
Why the fuck didn't they make it blow the hot air up?

>>60765271
Architecture is a possibility since most Architecture schools use gay shit like Rhino or whatever which is Winshit only I think.

But not graphic design or design related work.

No one respects Winshit.

Go kys pls.

>>60764365
Apple is probably selling it at a loss. They have the dough to do it. They want to expand their market share even more, most likely, betting on reduced manufacturing costs down the line.

>>60765296
Exactly. This shit aint junk; its a monster full of the newest tech.

MacBook Pro (Store: )

MacBook Pro 13" ohne Touch Bar (128 GB SSD, Intel Iris 640): 1499 Euro
MacBook Pro 13" ohne Touch Bar (256 GB SSD, Intel Iris 640): 1749 Euro
MacBook Pro 13" mit Touch Bar (256 GB SSD, Intel Iris 650): 1999 Euro
MacBook Pro 15" (256 GB SSD, 2,8 GHz i7, Radeon Pro 555 2 GB): 2799 Euro
MacBook Pro 15" (512 GB SSD, 2,9 GHz i7, Radeon Pro 560 4 GB): 3299 Euro

Weiterhin ist es nicht möglich, mehr als 16 GB RAM zu verbauen. Die Auslieferung der 13"-Modelle werden noch in dieser Woche ausgeliefert, die 15"-Varianten nächste Woche.

MacBook (Store:)

MacBook 12" (1,2 GHz, 256 GB SSD): 1499 Euro
MacBook 12" (1,3 GHz, 512 GB SSD): 1799 Euro


MacBook Air (Store: )
MacBook Air 13" (1,8 GHz, 128 GB SSD): 1099 Euro
MacBook Air 13" (1,8 GHz, 256 GB SSD): 1349 Euro

Explain my, why does Apple charge 250 € for 128 GB additional SSD space when you can almost get a new 960 EVO 1 tB for the same money?

>>60765319
The only new part here is Vega FE that releases in 3 weeks.

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>>60764299

>>60765272
>if you believe hollywood movies are mastered using an iMac.... well

>Mastered

Kek you clearly have no idea how the industry works.

Major Hollywood movies have different phases. Post production involves Editorial, VFX, Color, etc.

Most editorial is done on Macs. VFX mostly on Winshit/Lelnux (by using Nuke as a compositor). Colorists use Davinci Resolve mostly, which usually run on Macs.

So you're a retard.

>>60765336
and you defending a brand
just think about it for a second

>>60765324
Because these are 3GB/sec NVMe SSDs you fucking idiot.

The 960 EVO 1TB does 550MB/sec capped.

Go look at 1TB PCIe SSDs, they're literally $600-700.

>>60765293
>they don't sell this shit in Best Buy
They sell it at newegg.

>>60765366
Pointing out a brand's presence in an industry isn't defending it.

>>60765366
I'm defending the OS, not the brand.

Also I do like Macs, they're fun to work on a daily basis without getting depressed.

If you work 18 hours a day on a computer why not on a Mac?

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>>60765372
You'll find these 1S Xeons in trashcans soon.

>>60765372
You just said off the shelf....
And you assume regular consumers buy Xeons kek.

>>60765421
You can buy 1S Xeons. They are shit though.

>>60765431
No one cares about Xeons in the consumer space.

Go look at r/pcmastergay and you'll see what I mean.

Macs are made for consumers.

>>60765367
>fucking idiot
>Doesn't know I talk about the 960 EVO NVMe drive
And we're talking about 250 GB not 1 TB
totally overpriced

>>60765421
If you can buy a part at a retailer, online or otherwise, it's off the shelf.

>>60765454
Look at what? And 1S Xeons are clearly aimed at prosumer market, same as that new throttlemacpro.

>>60764416
This is stupid, you can get a 5K LG for like $1500 and build a nice X99 rig around it that would perform 100x better for the same price

Where the fuck is the Mac Pro? Like something with actual PCI-E slots

>>60765336
>>60765367
>>60765310
>reddit spacing
gtfo

>>60764996
>Also who the fuck upgrades RAM later? It's a fucking workstation.

t. a child or a shill

>>60765585
>Where the fuck is the Mac Pro? Like something with actual PCI-E slots
Postponed indefinitely :(

>>60764299

We already had Xeon and other workstation parts in AiOs from HP with the Z1 series of AiOs. Plus, you could upgrade the graphics card yourself.

>>60765885
>I've never worked in a production environment

>>60764299
I bet anyone informed can build a better PC for cheaper.

>>60765925
Prove it

>>60765925
screenshot the shopping cart please-

>>60765966
>>60765995
>5000 US dollars
you're joking right?

>>60766009

? So go for it? I'd like to see

>>60765925
>>60766009

Prove it RIGHT THIS MINUTE. Or GTFO.

Don't forget to include 5k Display, Case, Vega GPU (Price unknown) and 3GB/s PCIe SSD.

>>60764299
What games can it play?

>>60766323

well if you use it to dual boot windows it can run anything on either platform.

>>60766342
Could I just remove iOS?

>>60766323
Has 11TFlop GPU, can pretty much play anything (under Windoze).

It has Steam and Steam VR under macOS too.

>>60766371

It's not recommended, but you can make the mac partition really tiny, just in case you ever need to boot into it.

>>60766133

>Overprice i could build something much cheaper.


Yet they never do when called out.

Apple made a banger. For 5Gs you cant beat it.

>>60765925
The 5k Panel alone is probably worth 2 grand.

>>60766371
Firstly MacOS and yes you could but why?

>>60764393
>cooling a Xeon with a pair of oversized laptop fans

It will either throttle or melt your screen.

>>60766405
>8bit appleshit
>worth 2 grand

Mactoddler brainlets should just be rounded up and gassed for the betterment of mankind.

>>60764299
What the hell apple made the best AIO computer in reasonable prcie for it's parameters with actually really the newest hardware (the vega isn't even out yet).
Am I in parallel dimension ?
Anyway it's cool.

>>60766434

it's probably going to get pretty warm actually, but hopefully it won't get so hot that it throttles.

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>>60764299
>8bit trash

>>60766133
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XvrsFd

with dells 5k screen this comes out at $4,300, some other shitty peripherals $4,500

>inb4: b-but the 18 core
that's the most expensive one, which is probably cheaper to build than the base model

>>60766462
> "turned in some of the best numbers -- ever measured"

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>>60766433
These type of comments scream: "I am poor".

Remove the fact that it's apple, this machine is a monster. Can't beat it in it's price range with everything that is included.

If it was made by any other competitor and ran Meme-ux or Windows I bet you'd be creaming your panties.

And if you aren't creaming your panties you reinforce the fact that you are POOR.

>>60765966
>>60766133
>>60766100
>>60765995
Sure, how much does it cost, and what are the exact specs?

>>60766483
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XvrsFd

"Warning: These parts have potential issues/incompatibilities."

nice.

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>>60764299
What about any of these computers says "This is for VR"

>>60766541
>muh bios updates
something that they can do at applel for less than $500 before selling

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>>60766462
apple is claiming 30 bit color?

(see pic)

>>60766462
It's second time in this thread and again this is not true. Why winfags are so dumb.

Absolutely based. But something tells me it's going to overheat like a bitch jumping on muh dick.

>>60765456
>And we're talking about 250 GB not 1 TB
You just said that you could get a 1TB 960 EVO for that money.

>Explain my, why does Apple charge 250 € for 128 GB additional SSD space when you can almost get a new 960 EVO 1 tB for the same money?
>>60765324

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>>60766555
>apple is claiming

>>60766541
It says you may need a bios update.

You could at least try.

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>>60766587
>Paul Thurott
>2013
your'e a fucking idiot.

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>>60766606
>mactoddler
>calling anyone else an idiot
>paid $5000 for 8bit chinktrash with a fruit logo over true 10-bit dell monitor

lmao

>>60766632
>paid
It's not even out yet.

Why are you in every apple thread?

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>>60764299
Fuck it, fuck the components they will probably pull an applel and put some shitty mobile tier radeon (muh vega) with that 18 core like they always do.

What I do care about is that 5k screen, can in be used as a monitor, do they sell the screen separately, can I buy it and use it as a monitor?

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>>60764299
>mac

>>60764312
I want that pic in 4k

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>>60766973
http://rawandrendered.com/progress-before-perfection-october-2016

Stalk this guy. Though considering he's selling prints, I wager high resolution versions won't be on the web.

>>60765206
This has 10bit support tho retarded anon...

>>60767370
>w-w-we arent selling 8bit trash for more than real 10-bit pro products this year we promise!!!111

>>60766483
>Putting a consumer CPU on the list (2 generations old)
>No ECC RAM
>Not 3GB/s SSD
>No good case
>No good cooling
>Still $4300

For $600 you get amazing Apple hardware/software and cooling.

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>>60767404
stay mad, and poor!

>>60765900
No they said next year it's coming.

Also they now officially support eGPUs so you fags can stop complaining about Macs not having great GPUs.

>>60766776
They literally said it's 11Tflop for the Vega in the iMac Pro.

How fucking retarded are you? Does that sound like a mobile GPU to you?

>>60765925
Let's see you do it with an AIO form factor.

>>60764397

Base model is 8-core, 50-whatever Vega, 32GB ECC DDR4

>>60767949
Would never do that. What's the point of an AIO form factor if it's not portable?
It's the worst of both worlds. Portable performance handicap and not portable.

>>60767986
>Would never do that
I don't care if you like it or not, a part of the price is the form factor.
>What's the point of an AIO form factor if it's not portable
Space. It's a computer and monitor that takes up the space of a monitor.

>>60768008
Don't feed these troll winbabbys who don't have a job and live in their moms basement.

>>60767949
>form factor
>mactoddler cares solely about appearance over functionality

Not even surprised.

Enjoy your overheating throttling piece of shit joke for """""""""pros""""""""""".

>>60768008
>Space
Ok, I'll give you that. It's still a really really small niche. You can plug that hardware in a really small mini-ITX case or something.

>>60768057
Are you implying real work is usually done on Macs?

>>60768067
>all you know are the specs and price
>LOL XDDD IT OVERHEATS AND THROTTLES ROFL
You're a fucking retard.

>>60768094
>mactoddler unironically trying to imply macshit doesnt overheat

2 rupees have been deposited in your designated shitting street Panjeet.

>>60768091
Most of my department relies on macs. Mainly because macOS = Unix + Proprietary shit, which is important in my field. The rest uses some Linux. Nobody fucking uses Windows here and whenever somebody shows up with a Windows machine, they're usually gamer neckbeards who think they know shit, but really only know how to install the crack for the latest CoD shit show by replacing some dll or something like that.

>>60768122
I never implied shit, I said you can't say it overheats and throttles when you don't know if it fucking overheats and throttles or not.

>>60768234
>The rest uses some Linux
That's totally OK. But why do they need Macs when you can just use Linux?

I'm skeptical because where I work, the whole infrastructure is Windows, but the retard higher-ups decided it was appropriate for them to have Macs to differentiate themselves from the plebs (the higher-ups only do email on their computers by the way). It was a huge shitstorm for the IT department because they were not ready for that kind of support and in a few months all the Macs were gone. It was hilarious.

>>60768230
Beautiful.

>>60768230
>that fucking bezel
Holy shit, I thought macs were supposed to be good looking?

>>60768230
dat bezel

>>60764996
You don't take the back off on an imac, you remove the screen.
I did this once, and completely fucked the connector.
Fuck imacs.

>>60764843
They already tried this and it failed miserably... it was called DockPort

>>60768304
>I'm an oaf so fuck iMacs
I can't tell you how many times I've had mine cracked open and I've never had an issue.

>>60768230
Holy fuck, did they recycle 2008 era panels?

>>60764393
there's no apple product that doesn't throttle like a motherfucker

>>60768297
>>60768327
See >>60764312

>>60768325
Why wouldn't I just opt for something that's easier to modify?

>>60768346
Because you're not an oaf. Oh wait, nevermind.

>>60768277
Where I work, I gave all the higher ups Macs (which they loved, because it gave them status and they were allowed to install whatever they wanted)

Then they promoted me.

Then I fired all the dumb Windows admins who couldn't operate a Bash shell. Company's running great.

>>60768122
Perhaps you tried to say "Intel shit"

>>60768230
thicc

>>60768358
I'm sorry, I don't want to have to fix a connector with at least 30 pins(this was 4+ years ago) AFAIK, every time I allow my screen to fall slightly too far when opening that mess up.

>>60768342
5k or not, that shit is fucking ugly, my dude.

Also, that thing better be professional quality and color calibrated, or they're literally retarded.

>>60768391
Looks pretty good to me, it's just a black iMac

>>60768407
It looks like they forgot about black on glass bezel.

>>60768277
Some people need/want stuff like office or adobe or whatever. I'm mainly in the mac boat because of adobe cc, which I really don't want to miss out on. Gimp and Inkscape are just laughable alternatives.

>>60768390
Wouldn't be an issue if you weren't an oaf.

>>60768426
nevermind i suck cocks

The approved AIO on /g/ was the HP Z1 G2. G3 is a step down.

>>60768438
You can have your mobile CPUs and MXM graphics, I'm out.

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>>60764312
>industry standard

What kind of fps can this do in facebook?
Any selfie editing benchmarks?

>>60768070
But then you have to deal with spaghetti cords. Manageable, sure, but annoying and space-eating nonetheless.

With an iMac and bluetooth mouse + KB, you need just a single cord. That has a certain appeal.

– written from a custom built tower

>>60765162
Actually at the extremely high end of graphics and post-production Linux tends to be used, specifically RHEL.

Examples: Pixar, Industrial Light & Magic, Disney

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>>60768230

no. no.

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>>60768485
no. no.

>>60768450
I'll gladly take them, I've got a server for power intensive workloads.

>>60765585
>Where the fuck is the Mac Pro? Like something with actual PCI-E slots
They did say "not this year" like 2 months ago. This imac is a nice stopgap and should make a lot of cunts happy while buying the Eternal Fruit more time to design us a modern cheese grater

IF IT HAS
DDR4
D
R
4

>>60768453
You seem poor.

>>60768526
it do, just looked it up

thanks saten

>>60768453
You had ONE JOB, APPLE.

>>60768504
Make the apple logo bigger, senpai.

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>>60768606

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>>60768655
Looked a bit disproportional.

>>60768476
imac+wired keyboard is nice (because the original jewtooth one was too small and a shit angle)

my sff pc is similar though, only cords near it are power and hdmi to my tv, then it has one of those keyboard/trackpad media centre things

my work tower is a fucking rats nest though, too many usb cables and then a video capture card with component input

>>60768719
butiful

>>60768091
Yes. I've made millions over the years with Macs.

>>60765585
>and build a nice X99

for that fucking money?

you could either go dual xeons, x299 or even better x399

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>>60764333
>>60764333
>>60764333
>>Apple cramming Xeons and Vegas together
>This unholy union should not be allowed.

Digits confirm this and I agree

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>>60764312
>Those bezels

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>the internals of the iMac Pro look better than the exteriors of any competitor computer in any category released in the last 5 years

I wonder when Jony Ive will be given sainthood.

>>60768921

>look goy, we spent no time and no effort making the bezels smaller for no real reason
>PAY UP, PRETTY ISN'T IT?

Fuck off normie, you just showed how retarded you are.

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>>60768933
>defending applel products

You are the true goyim/normie

>>60768889
>even better x399
lol

AMDpoorfags gtfo

>>60768922
He's been knighted by the Queen.

Official title is Sir Jony Ive.

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>>60764333

>>60764299
>18 Core Xeon
S T U D I O A P A R T M E N T F I R E .


.

>>60764299
>AIO fatass screen no ports desktops
>ever

what is this, 2005? no one wants that shit anymore except computer labs who are given blanks checks to blow on "art equipment"

if you want a powerful AIO get a small desk unit or a workstation laptop. building everything into a meme unibody screen offers no advantage at all.

>>60766555
>VESA mounting
Holy shit. If I got this for free I might use it even. Still lacks a display in though.

>>60764299
FOUR THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND NINTEY NINE US DOLLARS FOUR THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND NINTEY NINE US DOLLARS FOUR THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND NINTEY NINE US DOLLARS FOUR THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND NINTEY NINE US DOLLARS

>>60764299
>18 core bingbus abomination

NO

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>>60764299
>800mhz
>100+ celcius
>$5000

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>>60770340
>current year
>being poor

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>>60770457
>paying a lot of money for sub par shit for the purpose of using a shit os

or

>paying a lot of money for better shit and not being looked down upon by litterally everyone with a brain

>poor

>>60765324
I don't speak Arabic, what does this mean in English?

>>60770608
with/without touchbar
and some screeching about shipping dates?

i'm probably wrong though, we beat those cunts in a war a century ago so we didn't have to know their language

>>60770457
Not even poor, I have a dual 1080Ti build because I need CUDA for my 3D work.