>get memed by /g/ into linux >everything has to be compiled

Hello there newfag

>>60758961

holy fuck another stupid thread, don't you get tired fucking retard? is someone paying you for this?

sudo apt-get a job

.appimage

>>60759008
kek

>>60758961
Ah, I see you tried Gentoo.
Consider Ubuntu or Debian.

>he fell for the largest meme on this board

>>60759130
>Gentoo
more like LFS
gentoo has a package manager, you know

>using linux for anything but a server
oh wait, it's not even that good at that

>>60759008
Destroyed

>>60758961
>i don't know how to use a fucking package manager : the post

>>60758961
>this post again, every single fucking day

Who is paying you to post this desinfo eh?

SAGE AND REPORTED

>>60759238
It is, though.
The alternative is either *BSD which doesn't have much support or some commercial UNIX which requires exotic hardware and the license costs will bleed you dry.

>>60759336
>>60758999
first time I post here retards, I followed some youtube video about LFS and I can say linux is for retards whose time is less than worthless.

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>>60758961

>>60759008
command not found: a

>>60758961
>>every simple tasks takes hours of googling and reading tutorials
can you give me three specific examples?

>>60758961
Have you ever considered that maybe you're just computer illiterate?
Using the commandline is the issue here? It isn't difficult if you've used them since before graphical interfaces existed.
You literally type in what you want to happen and it happens.

>>60759238
What do you recommend? Wangblows for servers? Sure Active Directory is nice, but that's about it.

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>>60758961
This. I just want to WORK. Not fucking google how to create shortcuts

>>60763894
Is there... a linux active directory?

>>60763945
OpenLDAP

>>60763945
Yea. It's called ldap.

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>>60763917
if only it was as easy as wondoors

>>60763917
> why can't the computer read my mind
> why do I have to think

lol

>>60758961
You don't need .exe's, just use console

>install Linux
>have to compile everything from source
>expected to code your own wifi drivers
>kernel panics if you look at it wrong
>minor updates break core functionality

How does anyone work with this?

>>60758961
>>everything has to be compiled from .tar.gz source packages
You couldn't be any less subtle with your shitposting, you retarded lizard poster.

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>>60764784
My Ubuntu© Gnome 17.04 GNU/Linux™ doesn't have this problem.
Also, it can screenshot directly to the clipboard.

If you're a windoze user try Ubuntu, it's got pretty pictures that you can't live without and a terminal for the rest of us

>>60764925
>tfw this is exactly why I like ubuntu gnome

>>60764874
>Also, it can screenshot directly to the clipboard.
Can we kill this shit right now?

>>60760743
LFS have automated install and at least 3 kind of compression for packages.

>>60764946
>gnome
More like gNOPE

>>60758961
I don't think I ever had to compile anything from .tar.gz.

>>60758961
configure
make
make install
IS IT SO HARD

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>>60758961
> got memed by /g/ into using windows
> everything has to be installed after searching for an hour on the internet
> every single task takes looking over 10 ads
fuck you /g/ and your meme shit

>>60760743
First time I post here retards, I follow some youtube videos about WindowsXP and I can say Windows is for retards whose time is less than worthless.

This is how you sound.

>>60764874
>Also, it can screenshot directly to the clipboard.
What, like every other OS ?

>>60758961
BSD != GNU plus Linux.

>>60758961
I haven't see a tar file in years faggot.

>>60765083
It's a joak you dip

>>60763945
FreeIPA is the closest unpaid thing that comes to mind. It's a bundle of LDAP, Kerberos, etc. Active Directory is good though

>>60764979
>LFS have automated install
How can a book have automated install? Stop talking out of your ass newfag.

>>60759336
He's not wrong though. I like linux, but every time I use it I'm reminded of why I dislike it. It's a pain in the fucking ass to get everything working unless you've dedicated a lot of time to learning linux inside-out.

No, I DON'T want to compile everything.
No, I DON'T want to figure out dependencies for the software I just downloaded
No, I DON'T want programs with so many options it turns into a cluttered mess
No, I DON'T want to be forced to use repositories to install software if I want it to 'just werk'

The things you WANT to customize, are difficult to customize. Shit you couldn't even give a shit about, like the color of your fucking buttons in a calc app - oh boy you can customize that all you want.

Jesus fucking christ lincucks get your shit together already.

>>60765125

It's not difficult anon, you're not used to it. It has a learning curve, as windows systems had when you started using them when growing up.

>>60765124
>i'm too retarded to find the script on the site: the post

>>60765125
> I don't want to use repositories
> Compiling everything and resolving dependencies by hand is hard
Choose one anon, what the fuck. What do you have against repos?

>>60765250
Not everything is found in a repository

Repositories can be censored

I shouldn't HAVE to install via repository to get things working properly. Repositories are a stop-gap measure to fix an inherent problem with linux: That you can't easily install software like you can in windows or on mac.

Either design your OS taking into account what the market actually wants, or continue to flounder at 1% marketshare. It's real fucking simple, but lincucks still can't figure it out, no matter how many people try to hammer it into their autistic peabrains.

>need a program in linux
>open terminal
>sudo apt-get install <program name>

>need a program in windows
>open a web browser
>go to bing.com
>enter the name of the program
>click the first website
>the first website was an ad whoops, press backspace to go back
>oh backspace to go back doesn't work anymore, press alt and what is that, left arrow?
>my keyboard doesn't have arrow keys cause i'm a leet gaymur
>grab the mouse and mouse over to the back button
>go to actual program's website
>search page for "download"
>the website is an absolute mess because it's made for mobile users in mind
>ctrl f
>downl-*DING*
>there is no word "download" on the page
>oh god i have to actually read the website's introduction page to find out where to go
>find something blue and underlined
>click it
>it was an ad
>have to close that window
>WEBSITE IS ASKING IF YOU'RE SURE YOU WANT TO NAVIGATE AWAY FROM THIS PAGE
>keep pressing close
>accidentally close first browser window too
>open browser again
>go to bing.com
>search for "<program name> download"
>oh cool i found it
>it's on sourceforge i guess
>look for releases
>what is this, where's the exe?

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>>60765298
>Repositories can be censored
wut?
>That you can't easily install software like you can in windows or on mac.
You can. Deb files can add new repos. Best of the both worlds for retards.

>>60765298

What are you talking about, are you mental?


Handling software is way easier on linux. If you don't like using a deb package or rpm file every once in a while you can always stick to arch and find almost anything in the AUR packaged by your random teenager pajeet.

I understand you don't like compiling from source (something that might happen to an average user), but stop shifting blame and projecting.

>>60765354
are you brain damaged?

>>60765298
Yes anon, you see, when using a distro, the nice people at <insert distro here> have already compiled binaries that are tailored specifically for your distro of choice.
Downloading random executables for windows is equivalent, on Linux, to downloading .deb .rpm, whatever, for your distro.
Sure, not everything is found in a repo, but some distros have streamlined this. Ubuntu has third party "ppa"s, of which I'm running quite a few. Arch has the wonderful AUR. To say nothing of Gentoo.
Even the "compile everything from source" distros have automated dependency resolution. I'm not quite sure what you're going on about.
You can install software as easily as Win or Mac. Just because you don't want to touch the repos, doesn't mean there's no "ease of installation".
It's like getting an iPhone and refusing to use the app store, all the while exclaiming how there are no apps for it.
You literally have to install via a repo because if you don't trust the repo, why do you trust the distro you're running?

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>>60758961
>ls
>cd downloads (if file is there)
>ls
>find .sh
>type sudo ./program.sh
or if file is in .deb format, just run it.

If none of these then copy extracted archive and with alacarte or manually make shortcut to the start menu.

WINDOWS :
>find .exe or .msi
>no sha256sum to check it is legit
>program is propiertary
>site looks shady
>needs to wait 10 seconds to download it from site
>install it
>VS11 or VS10 is missing
>install VS10, nothing works actually it needs VS15
>mscdvir110.dll again
>oh I need VS13
>install it
>something.dll is missing
>oh I need dxd9
>find dxd9 from microsoft page
>wait for hours to download dxd9 from installer
>run program
>windows update restarts your pc

>>60765571
To add onto Gentoo, it possesses the glory that is layman.

>>60765298
Repositories are a stop-gap measure to fix an inherent problem with linux: That you can't easily install software like you can in windows

Linux:

1.) sudo apt install [enter whatever the fuck you want]
2.) Done!

Windows:
1.) Open browser
2.) Search for software
3.) Download
4.) Install
5.) Installer is piss slow and tries to install all kinds of toolbars and bloatshit.
6.) Uncheck all the boxes
7.) Installs shit anyway
8.) Do you want to set EpicSecurityBrowser as your default browser?
9.) Installation finished
10.) Open program
11.) Something happened.

admirable how linfucks trying to make it look like to be a difficult job to install anything on windows. protip: it requires brain like everything.
you download shit from chip.com or any random shady site? no
you open an exe file you are not confident is alright? no

it is way easier to break the fuckin linux system with a fucked up apt-get autoremove or install or anything command because most of the time you dont even know what the hell that shit do, how it copies shit, if the PPA is shit you dont download half of the required files so you can install the program like 86% its all fucked up like the whole thing. its fun to fuck around with it for like 1 hour but if i want to get shit done thats not the place

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>>60765917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrUuKehpGuQ
>orphaned packages can brake the system
Yeah, i have seen that meme.

>>60764784
Lmao I'll take the bait. I'm on fedora and none of this is true. The only thing slightly true, is the compiling Hing, but that's only for developers. It is one hundred percent possible as a normal user, to use Linux without compiling or programming anything.

>>60758961
>ITT OP Loves Gentoo

>>60758961

You need to get the package with your package manager instead of compiling it from source

If there is no package and you don't know how to compile it, then the program isn't for you

>>60765298
>>I shouldn't HAVE to install via repository to get things working properly.
Well thankfully you don't HAVE to. You're free to download the .tar.gz for your program and compile from source if you so desire.

>>60759008
Like all serious industry professionals I only use Windows at my job.

>>60758961
just install ubuntu. its easy and has most proprietary software drivers

>>60759008
underrated post

>>60758961
linux is a programmer's tool only, like gcc and visual studio. It shouldn't be used by anyone that's just traying to play media or browse the internet.

>>60759142
>largest meme
Know how I know English isn't your first language?

>>60758961
Did you seriously think a bunch of counter-culture, unemployed virgins were going to steer you on the right path?

>>60770112
He's right though

How can lincucks compete?

>>60765730
This is all under the assumption that the software you want to run is in the repository.

Much of the software I want to run is not. And when it isn't it's a pain.

>>60765730
And then when your program isn't on the rep, you're stuck with something much more complicated than the Windows method.

I'm sure plenty of normies will use Windows store soon anyway, which is much better than command line, having to know the name of a program before hand, which also requires all the other steps.

>>60768211
Why can't I download a .exe and install that way?

For example, I want to install popcorn time. It's not in any repositories, so I have to go and find a download for it.

I find a download for it and now I have to compile it.

Now I google how to compile it.
Great, except I have no shortcuts anywhere and there still isn't an executable, so I google to find out how to actually run it (command line, of course, everything's in the fucking command line)
Well I don't want to use a command line to run this shit, so more googling

After an HOUR I've FINALLY got popcorn time working, ALMOST. Except for the VPN. Guess I'll have to do some more googling...

Just what the fuck is this shit lincucks?
You know how long it took me to install on windows? Not even three fucking minutes and most of that was downloading the fucking thing. AND IT ALL "JUST WERKS"

Fuck linux and fuck linux users, seriously. You people don't have a fucking clue what everyday users want to do with their computers. Someone needs to beat half of you to death with a cluebat already.

Linux: By autistic retards, for autistic retards.

>>60770233
>Why can't I download a .exe and install that way?
You can. Sort of. If the software developer provides a precompiled package for your distribution.

>>60770233
this desu

Linux isn't held back by anything more than linux users themselves. You can't improve the process of installing in linux if linux fanboys refuse to believe anyone has any issues with it to begin with.

>>60770251
I mean, you even need command line + parameters just to install a fucking RPM most of the time. It's a terrible design, but Linux nerds are too afraid of improving Linux because if they do and people actually use it, they'll lose their identity. What do they have when every normie is using Linux? I suppose they'll give everyone shit for using a distro that actually works, just like /g/ loves to do.

>>60758961
Why did you install Slackware for your first distro?

>>60770310
Same thing happens every linux thread:

>Someone tries out linux
>Well, I have issues with x,y,z

>>Your issue isn't actually an issue
>>You're just an idiot you should use google and the command line its easy

On repeat
For what - two decades now? Three? I've been seeing it play out like this since before we shitposted together on BBS's.

>>60758961
>installed gentoo as your first distro
Not my fault you're retarded m8

>tfw installed Xubuntu two years ago
>tfw have never installed from source
>tfw everything can be done in GUI
>tfw just use command line to look like a hacker
to be fair, I had screen tearing but I fixed that with compton.

>>60770355
>go to forum asking for the commands to do x
>Dev: "read the fucking sticky retard!"
>I did, and I followed it directly, but I'm getting different results
>Dev: "clearly you entered the wrong command"
>I entered it as the guide said, here's a screenshot. What command am I supposed to use?
>Dev: "Read this link, the sticky is wrong, this is how you're supposed to do it"
>That link is for an older version, but that also doesn't work, here's a screenshot.
>Hello, is anyone here?
>Thread has been locked by Dev
>Spend hours searching various forums and posts to try and do something that takes one minute in Windows
>Find nothing and remove the hobbyist garbage from my hard drive


It's just le baby duck syndrome! You're just too lazy to learn!

>>60765730
Windows is more like this, butthurt lincuck:

>Google program
>Download and install from website
>Just Werks

But I can already picture some lincuck sitting there typing random names into their apt-get hoping one of them will eventually be the program they want. It's the linux way of doing things.

>install linux
>realize it's software is a piece of broken shit on par with 2002 windows software
>try to install windows software
>wine development branch is still broken as fuck and most installers refuse to install
>install W7 on top

linux is fine if you only use chrome and libre office and some gcc BS.

>>60770950
>Just Werks
Maybe.
http://www.pistegamez.net/game_pk2.html
>>60771141
Who knows what do you mean... Maybe autism.

lolllll

>>60770221
>Implying most distros package managers doesn't have a graphical front end with full text search
Whew lad

>>60759008
sudo apt-get a-job

>>60758961
>get memed by /g/ into linux
Good
>everything has to be compiled from .tar.gz source packages and there are no .exe available
Anon, you don't just jump straight into Gentoo. Get Ubuntu.
>every simple tasks takes hours of googling and reading tutorials
Self-directed learning, anon.

>>60765067
> got memed by /g/ into using windows
Okay?
> everything has to be installed after searching for an hour on the internet
ninite.com
> every single task takes looking over 10 ads
uBlock Origin

>83 posts and 9 image replies omitted.
remember when 4chan had moderation? me neither.

>>60765125
>He's not wrong though. I like linux, but every time I use it I'm reminded of why I dislike it. It's a pain in the fucking ass to get everything working unless you've dedicated a lot of time to learning linux inside-out.
How is that a problem? Learning takes time. You don't go to school, anon?
>No, I DON'T want to compile everything.
There's binary packages.
>No, I DON'T want to figure out dependencies for the software I just downloaded
Package manager has everything you need to solve this. Optional dependencies are of your own.
>No, I DON'T want programs with so many options it turns into a cluttered mess
You probably have installed some wrong ones. Remove it and get other alternatives.
>No, I DON'T want to be forced to use repositories to install software if I want it to 'just werk'
You don't need to if you do not want it. But you still being forced to google for solutions in Windows and still have problems because of some missing dlls.
>The things you WANT to customize, are difficult to customize. Shit you couldn't even give a shit about, like the color of your fucking buttons in a calc app - oh boy you can customize that all you want.
Why do I feel like someone played your feelings? Just install a DE and be done with it.
>Jesus fucking christ lincucks get your shit together already.
I think you need to pull yourself together if you want to commit yourself into Linux.

>>60765917
>admirable how linfucks trying to make it look like to be a difficult job to install anything on windows. protip: it requires brain like everything.
Unfortunately, that one anon earlier says that he wants eveything to be 'just werks' and gave an impression that everything that needs brain usage is a waste of time.
>it is way easier to break the fuckin linux system with a fucked up apt-get autoremove or install or anything command because most of the time you dont even know what the hell that shit do, how it copies shit, if the PPA is shit you dont download half of the required files so you can install the program like 86% its all fucked up like the whole thing. its fun to fuck around with it for like 1 hour but if i want to get shit done thats not the place
There's no such thing as perfect operating system. You already know that Ubuntu is not for you anymore. Why aren't you hopping to another distro?

>>60758961
servers you right for installing ganoo

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>>60773907
Nice one, how do I block this?

>>60770233
>Why can't I download a .exe and install that way?
That's a weakness of community-driven. No one is entitled to prebuilt your favourite programs.
>Just what the fuck is this shit lincucks?
You know how long it took me to install on windows? Not even three fucking minutes and most of that was downloading the fucking thing. AND IT ALL "JUST WERKS"
You have priorities. And that priority comes with a deadline. You chose something that may or may not give you the productivity you require on the spot. That priority made you neglect your computer completely. This is the last thing I don't want my PC to do. A complete breakdown due to negligence.
You are fine with your processor going 100% 24/7. I don't. All because of "just works", I killed off my hard disk just because I couldn't see and hear what is happening under the hood and it's a shitty excuse to empty my wallet for a replacement.
>Fuck linux and fuck linux users, seriously. You people don't have a fucking clue what everyday users want to do with their computers. Someone needs to beat half of you to death with a cluebat already.
Users have their own preferences. There is no way in Windows going to provide everything to every users' needs. The cluebat applies to all of us.

>>60758961
>get memed by /g/ into winders
>everything has to be CLICKCLICKCLICKCLICKCLICK and I can't just use a simple command to install stuff
>every simple task is CLICKCLICKCLICKCLICKCLICKCLICK Something happened :^)
fuck you /g/ and you meme shit

>>60758961
use your distros package manager

>>60774320
Looks photoshopped. But in case it does happen after an update, I'm going to scour the Internet to debloat all the unneccessary stuff out.

Is it bad that I "only" use software supplied to me via the distro's software repository? Anything else doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned.

any linux works like ass on my t61, there are no drivers for the fingerprint scanner, nvidia drivers are really unstable and alsa likes to crash too
windows thin pc/7 works great
>b-but the problem is hardware related because it doesn't work on linux
yeah and you would blame windows when it wouldn't work there

>>60758961
You can install Ubuntu or Linux mint, and you won't have that problem.

But no, you gotta put all this effort of making a thread just to lie on the internet.

>>60770401
> just use command line to look like a hacker

so much this. I can do everything via a gui, I just have gotten used to using a terminal now.

Wow, you're a retard OP