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The madmen at Microsoft just baked an game anticheat directl

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The madmen at Microsoft just baked an game anticheat directly into the windows 10

>anti-piracy baked in the system in 3, 2, 1.....

source: http://wccftech.com/game-monitor-anti-cheat-windows-10/
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>>60740889
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>inb4 system baked-in piracy protection
>ONLY ON UWP GAMES
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>>60740960
This kills the Windows.
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>>60740913
>Turning this off may limit the games you can play.
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Closer and closer to the next Xbox console just being a normal Windows PC.
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>>60740889
Watch as it doesn't work just like the supposed "pirated content scanner" that Microsoft claimed it would have.
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>Setting that only affects UWP and windows store applications
And nobody cared
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>he hasn't switched to Linux
>tfw playing video games with no limits (except how well Wine can run them)
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>>60741223
play dota
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>>60740913
Holy hell, now this is something. At this point it may be wiser to buy a console and switch to Linux.
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>>60741230
Play smite
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What are the odds this fucks with mods in singleplayer games?
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>>60740889
year of the linux gaming desktop!
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>>60741223
>he fell for the gaming on Linux meme
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PAJEETWARE WINDOWS IS GOOD

PAJEETWARE WINDOWS IS GREAT
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>>60741243
100%
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>mfw i dont even use a computer anymore
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Good thing I'm switching back to all Apple hardware. Microsoft and their security is a fucking joke.
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>>60741254
Not yet but linux is definitely gaining some ground when it comes to the amount of games, though. I'm at least glad that Valve decided to raise a bit of interest in Linux as a gaming platform but they definitely half-assed their push with SteamOS.
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>>60740913
>/v/ will defend this
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Thank you Microsoft. Now whenever some kid says that my operating system of choice has no games, I can reply that it also has no built-in DRM for games.
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hwhy in the fuck
most populated mp games already have decent anti chet

this botnet better not be in my future vidya
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Another rootkit.
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>>60741243
Why would they even want to as long as its offline like skyrim for example. Nobody gives a shot of someone cheats in skyrim.
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>>60741314
From one botnet to another. Wise choice.
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>>60741379
what the fuck are you talking about
CSGO is a shitshow, and don't get me started on MMOs
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>>60741471
Do you honestly believe microwang could produce a better anticheat?
Fun fact: You can flat out hide MmGetPhysicalMemoryRanges in Windows 7, making your cheats 10/10 undetectable.
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>>60741097
>introducing Windows X
>it's Windows 10 but pared down to just basic resource management, directx 9/11/12, anti cheat and crash telemetry
>Xbox/360/One emulator built in
>comes with a bunch of controller drivers, live store app, steam pre-installed
>cheaper than home edition standalone
>"xbox" label now refers to midrange preassembled pcs with this os, Microsoft version of the steam machine
why haven't they done this yet?
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>windows 10
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Windows 10 Enterprise ltsb doesn't have this problem ;^)
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>>60741810
>idk what pared down means
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>>60741785
this could actually be a good business move.
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>>60741822
You sure about that? WIndows 10 in its entirety is a botnet, ignoring any anti-botnet countermeasures you make, and the moment you actually block it successfully at a router-level the shit hits the fan and the OS ceases to work.

LTSB isn't any different, anon.
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>>60741846
That guy was a moron who fucked up multiple settings and then was surprised when it didn't work as he expected.

That said, if we're going to take him as an authority, if you check his tweets even he claims that LTSB isn't doing anything nefarious. The tweets in your pic were about Windows 10 Enterprise, which is different from LTSB (and is a cancerous mistake).

LTSB can't even run UWP out of the box.
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>>60741846
Enterprise != Enterprise ltsb
Also, I never said it's not a botnet. Ltsb doesn't have forced automatic updates though, and I highly doubt it would come with some bullshit "game monitor" even if you did install the 2018 version.
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>>60741243
you have to buy the mods, you pirate :^)
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>>60740913
Holy fuck lads this is why everyone needs to switch to Linux and complete steam hardware surveys etc. so that there's a considerable Linux userbase.
Soon Microsoft will start paying AAA devs to only release on their Windows approved safe space and they'll agree because they want the money and "no one plays games on linux lul" and then PC gaming will be dead.
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>>60741097
>2017 Microsoft Studios titles
Who cares?
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>>60741255
>he fell for the "windows is the only option for gaming" meme
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>>60740889
>>60740913

Good.

Cheaters deserve to get fucked in every way they can.
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GNU/Linux + PlayStation = comfiest setup
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>>60741097
>implying there's anything worth playing outside of Steam, GOG, or old CD games
it's literally fucking nothing
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>>60741785
>steam pre-installed
But how would they earn their windows store shekels then
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>>60741922
MS already pays game devs to release only for Windows.
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>>60741978

HOLY SHIT >>60741360 WAS RIGHT
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>>60742027

QQ moar
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>>60742014
Merge windows and live store
>>60742021
>the reason game devs don't support Linux is bribes not the fact only 2% of desktops use it
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literally an excuse to log your gaming, mine it and sell it to devs
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>>60742071
>the reason only 2% of desktops use it is that only 2% of desktops use it
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>>60742071
>2% of the desktops
is this the reverse holocaust
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>>60741989
>liking babby hand controllers
sorry, xbox 360 and up did do controllers correctly. even the original xbox S controller was more comfortable than the PS controller.
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>>60742134
>fucked up placement of D-pad
>better
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>>60742134
xbox controllers were disgusting for a very long time, retard. They didn't start getting comfy until recently. Now it's to the point where it doesn't really matter if you use an Xbox or PS controller.
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>>60742158
Welcome to 2003 and up, the D-pad isn't really used for anything anymore. Shooters, driving games, MMOs, everything except fighters is better with analog sticks.
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Just turn it off.
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Good fuck I there are so many fucking cheaters. Its all games that require skill with your hands and not your brains like RTS's and to a lesser extent Sports and Moba games. The whole thing is that It takes a while to make cheats for a game so games that are alive for a long time like most Steam multiplayer games there is enough time to polish off cheats that cant be detected on steam or other types of multiplayer game servers. Eat me
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>>60741785
>steam pre-installed
that would never happen. they want to get rid of steam since it's their competitor.
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My god when will Microsoft make a product worth a single shit

Why do they even exist, they're completely and utterly worthless. Would they go bankrupt it would only mean better things
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>>60741133
Xbone is essentially running Windows 10
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>>60741822
worse girl
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>>60741999
>he doesnt play pirated eroge on his PC
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>>60741881
Just checked and LTSB doesn't have the Game Monitor shit, nor the Game Bar and all of that other crap.
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>>60742430
this trash is in the insiders build
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>>60741785
>Windows x
>Not calling it The WindX
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>windows gives two fucks about client machines

All this parania when all they care about is businesses buying their products...
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>>60743031
Windows 10 was free. The only way to profit from that is by selling the information they gather from the user.
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>>60741822
it will :^)
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>linuxshills out in full force today
sad!
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>>60743198
>being this desperate
POO
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>>60740889
Literally a matter of months before somebody cracks the anticheat.
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>>60741133
>>60742378
Wasn't that the point of xbox? bringing the PC experience to consoles
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>>60741846
How does it ceases to work? Like, does it gets stuck in a loop of trying to send data and goes BSOD?
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>>60741785
>>Xbox/360/One emulator built in
I don't think it needs to emulate any of these, anon. Much less One.
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>>60741223
I know this isn't really the place for it, but how will does wine on a basic ass distro like Ubuntu handle games? Like how close could I expect it to be to running it on windows? Literally gaming and virtual machines are the only thing right now keeping me from seeing my desktop and laptop to Linux..
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>>60743920
>how will does wine on a basic ass distro like Ubuntu handle games?
The distro really shouldn't make much of a difference here, apart from how up to date Wine is on it. A bleeding edge distro like Arch will have a more recent version of Wine, which I find tends to work better.

The other major factor is graphics drivers, if you have an Nvidia card. Nouveau is basically unusable when it comes to video games.

>Like how close could I expect it to be to running it on windows?
If the game's running DirectX, it will be a lot slower through Wine. This will mainly be CPU bottlenecked. Some games also stutter a lot while shaders are loading for the first time. GTA4 was initially extremely stuttery, but about 2 hours into playing the stuttering was mostly gone. Then the new GTA4 patch came out last november, which broke the game for me on Windows and Linux.

Older games typically work reasonably through Wine; the performance will be bad, but usually not unplayable on a decent CPU. Some games will just refuse to work. GTA5 just refuses to run under wine, for me.

If your hardware supports it PCIe passthrough on a VM is also an option.
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>>60743799
The 360 would definitely need an emulator.
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>>60740913
>>60740889
hilarious, i bet /v/eddit is loving it
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>>60743920
if your library consists of purely valve games you'll be fine, otherwise enjoy garbage performance and glitches with wine. but that really is the least of it, free software sucks ass
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>>60744259
Why would it need an emulator, isn't it all x86?
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>>60744316
360 is PowerPC, they'd still probably need emulators for the other two, having the same architecture doesn't mean you don't need an emulator. I can't run PlayStation games on my MIPS hardware without an emulator, for example.
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>>60744306
>if your library consists of purely valve games you'll be fine
There are plenty of other games that run natively on Linux. Since Unity and Unreal 4 are cross platform, most recent Indie games work on Linux.
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>microsoft doesn't let you manipulate your RAM now
the madmen
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Will go down as well as "Games for Windows Live". Why do they bother... windows isn't an xbox.
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>>60744348
You'd only need to emulate the BIOS and architecture specific shit, and translate the GPU commands to a standard api
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>>60741191
They haven't deployed the pirqcy scanner yet, but the patent cleared so it should be any day now. Just be sure not to download that upda- oh right.
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>>60744571
but that "piracy" scanner is just something that scans for pirate uploads to their cloud service shit (forgot the name of it).

/g/ making a mountain out of a molehill yet again.
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>>60741720
>tfw the only AC that matters to me uses MmGetPhysicalMemoryRanges to find potential cheats anyway
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>>60744571
Yes they have. It's used in the Xbox One, not intended for Windows 10 PCs.
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>>60740889
>his kernel doesnt have VIDEO GAME ANTI CHEATING SOFTWARE

linux cycks btfo
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>being so shit at games that you have to cheat at online multiplayer
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>>60745517
>being so shit that you can't make your own aimbot
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>>60740889
still with muh windows 7 :^)
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>>60745178
>Not intended for
After all these years you still think Microsoft knows where to stop
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>>60741223
I stopped playing games when I switched to Linux. Nothing of value was lost. And it was time to move on anyway since retards were beginning to use Discord.
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>>60740913
Linux doesn't have this problem. Enjoy your microdick shoved in your areshole
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>>60741471
CSGO runs on Linux
VAC does not work on Linux
This means hackers will come to Linux
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>implying I need cheat to play eroge
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>>60744515
Microsoft want to take away native code all together.

If a user tries to run ANY unsigned native code on Windows 10 the user gets a nag that implies that they'll die if they run the program. The nag also does make it obvious how to bypass the nag. (pic related)

Microsoft justify this annoying restriction of freedom by calling it `security' but in real Microsoft know the average user will be scared and confused when they see this nag and probably won't run the application.

Microsoft hope to force developers instead to NOT publish native applications but instead publish as UWP Apps on the Windows store.

UWP apps DO NOT have access to native windows APIs and run inside a Sandbox. Giving Microsoft an effective lockdown over what code runs on a users pc, iPhone style.

Windows 10 is a joke. Microsoft is a joke. Just fucking lol @ all the children who justify using it on /g/
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>>60746434
does not make it obvious*
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>>60741097
Surprise surprise, games that rely on it will need it.
No different from other anti-cheat engines.
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>>60746434
>the average user will be scared and confused when they see this nag and probably won't run the application.
And they should be. The average user is fucking retarded and will open email attachments from people they don't know.

Just sign your applications with something. It's not fucking hard.
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>>60746434
Linux is a bigger joke, which is why the entire world laughs at you. You just can't hear since you don't leave your room.
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>>60746434
>microsoft has the most popular platform because of legacy software support
>microsoft removes legacy software support
>customers switch to windows 7 or OSX
>???
>profit
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>>60746551
>Pay Microsoft money to publish your applications

Holy shit the shill meme is real.
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>>60746565
anon said this right before restarting his computer for his mandatory updates
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I don't cheat any more so bring it on lads.
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>>60746607
>you need to pay to sign things
Holy shit, /g/ is retarded.
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Assuming
>anti-piracy baked in the system in 3, 2, 1.....


This will just commit me to permanent Linux and only playing games I can emulate. There's such a huge backlog of Sega and Playstation I want to get through and then early PC games after that. Plus, with modern computers and hack can be a game dev so wading through the millions of shitty games is a lot of work. This will artificially limit which games I play in a positive way.
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>>60746434
8.1 was the last fairly good release
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>>60746647
>only playing games I can emulate
Wine is pretty good though and the vast majority of small devs are using Unity or Unreal 4, which works on linux too.
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>>60743744
It does pic related
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>>60741434
CHEEVOS. The worst thing to happen to gaming since the polygon.
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>>60743198
Nice one
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>>60740913
>tfw you're still running windows 7 and have zero problems.
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>tfw not retarded
>tfw know how to configure windows 10
>tfw have 0 problems with it
>mfw seeing all these inbred lincucks and windows 7 cucks on /g/
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>something is using 100% of my disk
>check task manager
>it's the fucking Windows defender
>wtf I disabled that shit days ago
>click end task
>"Are you sure, you may lose the data?" Yeah whatever
>"Access denied"
>literally "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"
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>>60746678
What if you kill those processes?
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>>60741097
AYY
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>>60746834
>I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that
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>>60740889
This seems like something a rootkit tier bypass can easily fix.
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>>60746795
>uses windows 10
>considers himself not retarded
>still uses windows 10
>actually is retarded
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>>60740889
>>60740913

Don't see what the issue is. It's obviously limited to games in their UWP/Windows store platforms. Useful for stuff like gears of war 4.

Everything outside of it is fair game.
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>>60741243
You can't mod UWP/Windows Store games anyway.
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>>60746826
>access denied
Windows is trash
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So, What is the option if I want to play better vidya? Seems like microshill is starting to cockblock any driver updates for the windows 7 OS and Windows 10 looks like microsoft is working its ass off to shut down all open source. Kinda leaves me between a rock and a hard place for gaming.
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Hahahah like how the fuck is Windows still the norm for enterprise work when laptops with 4g, Office 365, and even Photoshop being in the cloud now?
Like do you know all it would take to put Windows out to pasture in the enterprise?
Make a Linux distro with all the system internal locked down and hidden away from the user, a basic fool-proof DE, and the ability to control everything using Group Policy and Active Directory. If MS came up with something like the discontinued Google Gears allowing you to use things like Google Office offline but instead Office 365 that would be even better. Like nigga you could totally do away with Windows with a Chromebook if you could lock that shit down with GPOs and Active Directory. Like seriously why is Windows in the Enterprise still a thing?
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>>60747664
Sure you can, Gamecheat even released a cheat/modding toolkit for Halo 5's PC port

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XlriRF5ogA
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>>60747832
Move to SteamOS. Either that, or install Steam on Linux. The more that use it, the more likely that developers will provide a compatible version.
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>>60744249
I do have Nvidia, 1070, so rip. Does only VMware have pcie pass through, usually virtual box right now and I can't find a setting for that, let alone even giving it more than 128mb of vram
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>>60740889

If you cheat at solo player, who the fuck cares.

If you cheat online, fuck you, and may you die a painful slow death.
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>>60741989
macOS + Nintendo
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>>60747874
You still use the desktop applications for cloud apps retard. The web versions aren't full featured.
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Some cheaters in csgo exclusively use Linux for that game since it doesn't even support VAC. Hopefully linux users won't be grouped with windows users in future. That OS just ruins the game for everybody else by being a haven for cheaters.
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>>60748104
qemu is the only one I know if that can do PCIe passthrough.

Nvidia is fine on Linux as long as you don't use the nouveau drivers.
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>>60748216
>itoddler + nintentoddler

Peas in a pod.
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>>60746635
>your shitty self-signed cert will be welcomed to the windows store by microsoft
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>turn on metered connection
>laptop never updates
>get new internet provider in building
>laptop tries to update
>turn on metered connection again and delete update
wew
is there any update i should actually be getting?
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>>60748776
Nope, just stay right there.
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>>60740889
muh gaymen.
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>>60748838
It's crazy, it's like people like video games and dislike being fucked with.
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>>60740889

now they spy while you play too, fucking windows 10 is a disgrace
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>>60749069
Can't have you talking about terrorism over games no Jamal.
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>>60749069
Which would make it perfect for you.
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>>60746099
>people can't cheat if the OS doesn't run games
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>>60747877
>you can spawn AI in
hold the fuck
anyone made custom campaigns?
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>>60741243
Mo-dee? What's a mode?

I think you mean Microsoft Game App Extensionsâ„¢

Just buy some Microsoft Games Coins® and attach them to your Microsoft Game Account and you can purchase all your favourite Minecraft Game-App-Extensions®™© for a small monthly app subscription fee™
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It no longer matters

The only thing I do on my gaming PC is game. Everything else is on my Arch Linux pc. What's the point in worrying anymore? I don't even pirate games.
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>>60743309
It was to stop Sony from stealing away all the developers from Windows. DirectX Box was originally suppose to be a short lived dream that slowed down Sony and got developers to keep programming and developing directx games instead of changing ship.
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>>60741922
>Soon Microsoft will start paying AAA devs to only release on their Windows approved safe space and they'll agree because they want the money
Unless they start paying devs enough to cover the entire cost of development + 500k sales, no they will not. The only games Microsoft has been able to keep are those from first party studios that also come out on Xbox. Even then they've lost exclusivity from their platform for other games like Dead Rising and Quantum Break.

They even had to refund huge games like CoD:IW because they couldn't even manage a couple hundred sales on their platform. A publisher giving exclusive distribution rights to the Windows store is asking for no sales.
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Anti-cheat software shouldn't really exist. If your game trusts the client so much that you need to lock down the system it's run on, you clearly have design issues, and should fire all of your developers.
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>>60750366
And if you can't detect how someone's cheating? You need to collect data somehow.
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>>60741833
Thats why they refuse to do it.
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>leech telemetry off [game]
>sell it to devs competing with [game]
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>>60750366
yeah lets make fighting games server based, that will improve the gameplay

kill yourself
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>>60746729
Silly goy, our games will be Win10 exclusive from now on.
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>>60750843
Oh noez! What would I do with these thousands of games that I have left to play for eternity?!?
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>>60749428
omg have a le upvote xd
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>>60741223
>no limits except compatibility and performance which are 2 bigass limits, one bigger than the other
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>>60750769
Just about everything except the graphics are calculated serverside in CS:GO now. It works pretty well, except that there are still cheaters.

What would work best is requiring people to buy the game with a credit card, so they have a real identity attached, then once they get banned, that person cannot buy the game again.
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>>60741471
>CSGO
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>>60741999
>he doesn't play Touhou
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>>60746008
>Playing Etrian Odyssey IV on Arch

I still have the itch so there.
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>>60740889
Windows 10 users getting what they deserve.
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>>60746647
Citra is picking up if you want Nintendo stuff.

Now I have 3 backlogs with one currently playing.
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>>60741873

You didnt even bother checking out the later write up he posted. Also, LTSB is not generally available to buy. The situation on Pro and home versions- which is what most people are using- is awful regarding the amout of information MS is pulling, and the instrusiveness of the changes caused by updates. Why would you trust an operating system that doesn't respect your preferences.
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>>60752676
Because tearing apart the most popular Microsoft product is fun.
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>>60742417
>>60752515
>>>/jp/'s that way sir.
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>>60748158
>he doesn't cheat online
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in just 5 updates, microwang 10 has claimed over 23GBs of my harddrive on the laptop
a quality product
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>>60756077
good thing they automatically clean up those pesky applications for you then
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>>60742483
>Windicks
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>>60746434
I have never seen this screen running a program written in hot soup, and I'm pretty sure that isn't running in clr since it's from 1996
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>>60757467

>Win Dicks
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>>60743920
>virtual machines
Are you legitimately retarded? VBox works fine on Linux and QEMU+KVM shits all over Hyper-V.
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>>60740889
>gay monitor
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>>60753938
The tripfag is a nigger, who would have guessed?
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>>60749428
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>>60740960
Who the hell downloads or (God forbids) buys stuff from the Windows store?
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Should I install Windows N version or it can fucked up some shits later ?
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>>60762352
There are some minor differences.
You don't have MTP so if you transfer files to and from your phone over USB then keep that in mind.
Also some games might be using the codecs for FMVs, Resident Evil 4 being a good example.
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>>60762944
Ouhhhhhh thanks, I need MTP for my Android.
So normal version I guess (and I was wonedering why I kept WMP active on this workstation).
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