INTEL IN FULL ON PANIC MODE. EVEN LINUS IS JUMPING SHIP. I

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>>60739226
Oh no I guess Intel is surely finished this time!

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>>60739226
Oh god how can Intel ever recover

>>60739295
>steam
>>>/v/

>>60739258
>just had a major platform launch
>negligible stock gains

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>>60739258
>>60739295

>>60739258
>>60739295
is samefagging still a thing?

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>>60739332
People who wanna work on their computer will just get a mac.

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>>60739295
>opting into botnet when installing a dimple program
>wondering why AMD is low on that list.

Why would the linux kernel developer prefer one cpu over another? Shouldn't they be cpu agnostic?

>>60739226
Intel Wallet-raper

>>60739458
Because they don't want to waste their shekels

Jesus, Linus, calm down. That was the least subtle "Intel wut the actul fuck r u doing?" I've ever seen from him.


Who /finishedanbankrupt/ here?

>>60739226
He should do more like this

>>60739226
Reminder to hide and report all threads shilling YouTuber's channels

>>60741034
>DELID THIS

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Intel is finished and bankrupt when at least ONE comptetitor starts offering a product that doesn't perform like a 2-3 generation old Intel product.

Looking at you 1800X.

>>60739427
/thread

>>60739458
wrong linus, faggot

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Want to know something interesting?
Intel has a employee teaching program that have people come to the stores and train employees at Best Buy's and micro centers and wherever they sell intel products so the employees know what they're selling. Also giving them incentives along the way and pretty much preparing them to go out and sell intel to the consumer.

Linus Media Group actually does their training videos.

And Linus just tore them a new one.

Really activates your almonds, doesn't it?

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>>60741158
MUHHHHHH SINGLE COREEEEEEE
p.s. kill yourself tripfag faggot
p.p.s. don't even bother responding with MUH GAYMES nobody cares fuck off back to /v/
p.p.p.s. kill yourself

>>60741158
>what is scalability
>what is memory
>what are PCIe lanes
>what is literally BTFO

>>60739226
>EVEN LINUS IS JUMPING SHIP
Sponsored jump.

If threadripper is priced properly intel will never ever recover.

>>60741787
Who do you REALLY think has more money to pay Linus?

555-COME-ON-NOW

>>60739226
>I was talking to [some of my colleagues] and they flat out said 'we're not supporting this'

That cuts deeeeep, senpai

>>60741671

What is meaningful performance?

Ask yourself about gettting blown outta the water, you just got blown out of the water.

>>60741939
>I didn't even watch the video
>I don't understand the word "meaningful"
>I think SFIV is the Best Street Fighter
>I main Ryu

>>60739258
>5 year
RMA your life

>>60741939
By "meaningful performance" you mean 15 extra FPS in MUH VIDYA. We all know it, you fucking dipshit. Kill yourself.

Wait, but /g/ - AMD HQ told me that Linus was a hired Intel/Nvidia shill. Is he magically a sound guy now or can we use the same logic and say he's and AMD shill?

Quite confusing.

>>60742130
His Intel check bounced.

>>60742012

By meaningful performance you probably mean unrarring files a couple times a week

Oh wait no you're probably a movie editor so you're rendering shit 24/7.

>>60742130
He is.
It's just that i9 is so bad, they literally can't pay him to use it

>>60742130
They accidentally sent the money to Linus Torvald

>>60741939

Are you the dead from /o/?

>Gamers Nexus hasn't said anything about this

unsubbed fucking AMD hating Intel shill faggot

>>60742673
>The site that benches i7 CPUs at absurd OCs like 5.1 GHz hasn't mentioned what a shitshow X299 is

Color me surprised.

>>60742673
He literally criticized Intel for using shitty TIM in a video just last week.
He also said ryzen has completely removed the point of an i5 cpu.
>>60742693
Something like 80% of 7700k can hit 5.0+

But even then, an 7700k at 4.5ghz vs 5.1ghz results in almost identical scores.

>>60741420
According to colors used,amd did not score in this chart because only blue and dark blue score counts

Intel 1474 Amd 0
How will amd recover?

>>60742800
>Something like 80% of 7700k can hit 5.0+
Even the faggots selling the things on cherrypickedCPUs don't believe that shit, and their test method is running some shit benchmark for just one hour. lol https://siliconlottery.com/collections/frontpage/products/7700k50g

>>60742853
kek

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>>60742883
They also reccomend you DELID DIS for maximum results

>>60742883
1 hour of testing is really all you need.
The 24hr burn in test is completely unnecessary.

I've never had a CPU that wasn't able to pass the 1hr and 24hr stress test

>>60743136
I see forum posts reccomending testing using ROG Realbench for a minimum of 2 hours.

>>60743187
They literally just made that number up.
It's not a bad idea, just an unnecessary one.

>>60743136

When pushing right to the limit you really do need the extra time to ensure stability - especially when you are really close to thermal limitations.

>>60742012
*15 extra max FPS with the same averages and lower min

>>60744209

Since 2nd of march 2017 minimum fps is a meaningless metric. I will let you find out why that date is significant.

>>60739226
He looks and sounds really tired in this video compared to his other ones. What's up with that?

>>60744437
Spending all day wandering around the floor at trade shows is pretty exhausting on it's own.

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>>60739226
desu I don't even get the whole HEDT bullshit.
Intel had Xeons for workstation use...since forever. Opteron was not really a thing for workstations.

Now AMD would have Threadripper, and Intel could have just had Xeons like always.

This whole X299 from Intel is retarded.
The entire HEDT segment is like 0.1% of the market, literally who cares segment.

>>60739226
>EVEN LINUS IS JUMPING SHIP

Sure, like he'll ever bite the hand that's been feeding him all these years.

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>>60744586
>The entire HEDT segment is like 0.1% of the market, literally who cares segment.
That's only because Intel had everything at absurd pricing. The market is there, Intel just jewed themselves out of it.

So intel only two good good processors
G4560 and 7700k

>>60744726
Only under certian circumstances
1. You're dirt poor
2. You only play vidya gaems at 1080p 144hz with a 1080 or above

>>60744607
he figuratively just did

>>60744726
>7700k
lol no

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>>60742586

>>60744688
But as I mentioned Xeon was the previous "HEDT" thing. The whole X299 thing and the housefire i9s are pointless as fuck.

> you can now have 10+ core CPUs
> it will only cost you 100000$+
> oh and you will need some serious PSU
> and don't forget about the serious water cooling as well

Fucking hell.

>>60744764
>>60745448
Like it or not, the 7700K is still the best single-thread performer on the market. Give credit where it's due. AMD won the multi core game and parallel workload, Intel kept the single thread crown.

Nothing wrong with that, at least we have choice now.

>>60745976
No, Xeon was never HEDT. That was always Intel's server CPU, and they were very vigilant to protect that market from their own HEDT CPUs.

>>60745993
how percent of single performance of AMD ryzen against 7700k ? I heard slower around 10% only :^)

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>>60746016
20-25% on average.

>paying for hardware raid
Who the fuck does this?
Linux already has soft raid and zfs.

>>60746079
Winderps.

>>60739226
dumb frogposter

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>>60741158
LMAO

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>>60746226
>Tom's Hardware

>>60746226

Cherry picked benchmarks, literally irrelevant. None of those are practical applications.

That's really all there is to show for Ryzen.

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>>60746314
>Implying Tom's Hardware--historically accused of being biased in favor of intel--got results on their benchmarks inconsistent with what everyone else got in similar workloads.

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>>60746332
Ah yes, such cherry picking :^)

>>60744607
If he was actually shilling the whole time then he just did.

>>60746332
We already know the only thing you're talking about when you say "practical applications" is MUH GAYMES MUH FPS. Kill yourself already.

>>60746314
you're mad your 7700k gayming cpu and the overpriced 6900k lose in real benchmarks?

go back to /v/

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>>60746336
>no source given
>>60746343
>trusting a german source

>>60746371
kys degenerate 2Dposter

>inb4 muh anime website

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>>60746371
Keep making those excuses, you're going to need a lot more of them :^)

>>60746016
Any % matters if it's a single thread task sadly. I am no Intel shill I thought you noticed that from my tone.

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>>60746387
>complaining about anime on an english image board that copied a japanese image board and has a message written entirely in japanese about copying said japanese image board
If you're so triggered by anime you need to leave
>>60746420
hello where are the proofs????

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>>60746457
Yup, keep those excuses coming :^)

>>60746371
http://imgur.com/a/wMm1C

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>>60746387
forgot to mention
>reddit spacing
>>60746473
>anandtech
>reliable source
Choose one(1)
>>60746489
>trusting a case reviewer to accurately benchmark CPUs
i shiggy diggy

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>>60746512
There's like 4 seperate sources aggregated on there. Stop making excuses. You're making animeposting look bad.

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>>60746534
no I'm just making /g/ look bad by posting shitty b8 and still getting replies lmao

>>60741034
Does sage even work?

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>>60746534
>[HorribleSubs]
>>60746576
lurk moar. sage prevents your post from bumping the thread. It is not a downvote.

>>60746371
>>60746457
>>60746512
>>60746561
Reminder to report trolls/bait/whatever.

>>60745993
it's a fucking hosuefire chip that runs like magma and uses shills and rigged benches in order to get all it's numbers, thing is fucking shady as fuck and standing on toothpicks right now

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>Intel is DEAD AND FINISHED
>just catering to normalfags with (((Cloud))) shit and datacenters for aforementioned (((Cloud))) shit instead of the .1% of gaymers that don't use a console
Seriously, content creators have been using AMD for years now because parallelization has been a major focus since 4 cores became standard. Intel is just moving to a larger market.

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>>60746593
Reminder that Global Rule 7 exists you goddam newfag

>>60746594
The 7700K?
It has a higher TDP but so did the first gen i7s. I have an i7 first gen and it's really not that bad. (And well, if you bring in OC, all CPUs go housefire.)

>>60741827
AMD overshoots pricing whenever they think that they have a real winner. Why do people always forget this.

>>60746620
Reminder that some serial spammer shitposter samefag got all his posts blowed up by mods in a thread yesterday.
>>60746634
They dropped prices on R7 already, for what it's worth.

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>>60746660
I'm not samefagging though??

>>60746626
it runs much hotter than Ryzen and much much hotter than a consumer chip should run honestly, it is a very very poor buy when you take longevity into account

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>>60746688
that's y u delid it idiot and then runs like a dream

>>60741331
>Linus Media Group actually does their training videos.
I'm gonna need a source on that.

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>>60746674
Look pal, I've got just as many smug animu girls as you do, so don't even start.

>>60746606
Are Intel shills actually THIS /delided/ or are you just desperately grasping at straws?

Honestly, I'll take either.

>>60746688
> longevity
Son, people OC'd the 2500Ks into hell and they are still going strong. IMO every i5 and i7 needs a proper air cooler, and if you go OC, use a water cooler. If you keep temps low, nothing bad will happen.

I mean, I used my i7 on air, stock cooler. In the summer my PC froze when I played APB for a longer time due to the heat build up + shit cooling + hot ambient temps. Replaced cooler with an EVO212.... it became a beast.

>>60746718
oh yea? Post ur animu girls folder screenie

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>>60746707
"delid" shouldn't even be a thing. You are taking extra risk and doing extra work because Intel was lazy and jizzed inside of their CPUs instead of soldering them.

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>>60746756
>2500k soldered
>proof 7700k is fine

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>>60746773
>he doesn't also delid his tv and gpu for maximum tweakage

>>60746773
anyone ever actually try jizz as tim

>>60739431
Literally what?

>>60742174
>people buy HEDT products for gaymen
Now that's delusional

>>60746806
I tried delidding my TV once, but I died when I touched the yoke.

>>60746783
Even if you post more animu pictures, you can keep an i7 7700K cool with an aftermarket cooler. The non-solder shit is only an issue if you plan on OCing. If you do, you should delid anyway.

> inb4 delid is hard
It's safe as hell.

> inb4 but others don't need delid
We know Intel went full jew but who the fuck cares. If AMD had the better chip and just paste on it, I would fucking delid that one then. No one cares about brands or models.

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>>60746899
Enjoy. Take it, it's all yours.

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>>60746887
>yoke
funny you should say that bc I actually got electrocuted yesterday during a tweaking session on my tv.

It hurt a bit but I didn't die whos laughin now

>>60746899
>The non-solder shit is only an issue if you plan on OCing
They already run way too hot at stock clocks. You get around 20C cooler temps with delidding which is absurd.

>It's safe as hell.
Not really unless you have one of those that you posted. Also skylake-x CLUs have smd components near the heat spreader so it's dangerous even with a tool.

>>60746950
>They already run way too hot at stock clocks
If it doesn't throttle, I don't care that much.
Yes Intel should not use jizz, but see my previous point.

> skylake-x CLUs
That is just a fucked up CPU family, no one should buy into it yet. One of the most fucked up launches ever.

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>>60746718
>he thinks he can out smug me

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>>60746899
>you can keep an i7 7700K cool with an aftermarket cooler
>only an issue if you plan on OCing

Alrighty then

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>>60746950
DELID DIS

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>>60747003
try me motherflipper

you're a bunch of literal children and manchildren

what are you even claiming, it's not like you're going to buy HEDT anyway, and it's not like amd won't disappoint yet again

>>60747052
I don't give a fuck about any of this. I'm just happy to see a bunch of smug Intel goyim getting assblasted while I play Overwatch on my underclocked 6700k

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>>60747042
I'm the boss of this thread

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>>60747052

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>>60747052
would manchildren argue by posting drawings of underage looking chinese girls (male)?

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>>60747087
>Overwatch
>paying to play a tf2 reskin

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>>60747090
Yeah, but can you compete with the smuggest CEO of all time?

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>>60747097
pic related

>>60747108
yes, you're deluded if you think you're not a manchild

>>60746756
2500k ran much cooler, was a larger process, and didn't need to hit 5ghz to compete with a 4ghz chip with the same process, instead it typically ran @4.5, the temps on a 7700k spike to 90c, a total fucking joke literally melted transistors and guaranteed degradation in a few years

People should've been worried when Intel:
1. Stayed in the SSD game long after the margins were gone
2. Got back into memory

>>60747119
Never said I paid :^)
[le smog amine gril]

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>>60747123
She's...too smug. I don't think my smug animu girls can compete

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>>60747090
fuk dis

>>60747144
intel has made some questionable business decisions but amd even more so

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>tfw people use their CPUs for anything except extracting games from archive files and playing games

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>>60747127

>>60747143
stock coolers were always shit ffs, and 7700k can literally handle those temps anyway, the tech has progressed since a decade ago when 60c was considered hot

>>60747207
But I animate professionally, anon...

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>>60747216
so it's normal according to you that i have to spend 120$ of aftermkt cooler on top of the 300$ for the cpu just so i can do some mild OC

>>60747224
yeah you slap your pixel art together in mspaint for your fetish porn visual novels

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>>60747216
>just let it run hot

>>60739427
People who want to discuss video games will just post on /v/. Wishful thinking.

>>60747246
you can get a decent cooler for probably 20-40 bucks and it was always considered normal to get an aftermarket cooler for a diy pc you insufferable 14 year old newfag

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>>60747246
you forgot the delidding tool & solder

>>60747009
my i7 950 also required aftermarket cooler son. since Turbo also became a thing, I would recommend an aftermarket cooler on all i5/i7 CPUs.

>>60747246
pls get a tripcode

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>>60747302
>so triggered you have to filter

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>>60747284
and the voided warranty

>>60747310
Nah, weeb shitposters should get globally banned, but hey, it's already cool if I can filter out the cancer for myself.

> see threads with many hidden post
> it's from tripfags
> open up a few hidden posts
> literally shitposting with weeb shit pictures
> 0 fucking content or contribution to threads

>>60747319
When was the last time you returned a CPU on warranty? Serious question.

>>60747319
because RMAing your cpu is such a common occurrence right

>>60747009
>>you can keep an i7 7700K cool with an aftermarket cooler
Well yes, as a opposed to what? They don't come with a stock cooler.

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>>60747335
>complaining about anime on a anime image board

>>60747354
> /g/
> anime image board
No wonder your posts make no sense, it seems like you mixed up the boards. Oh boy.

4chan.org has a nice list, make sure you visit that.

> inb4 shitposting weeb pictures has anything to do with technology, or processors

>>60747246
>120$ of aftermkt cooler on top of the 300$ for the cpu just so i can do some mild OC
Mine easily went to 4.8Ghz with a six year old 212. I don't think it's even an EVO.

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>>60747335
>>60747337
delidded cpus lose 20-30% value on the used mkt, and you never know if your chip might be defective

>>60747374
It's not like a weeb will ever have money for a 7700K or a 2500K in the past. You know anon, fox and grapes.

>>60746813
No, but close. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLYwU1mi90M

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>>60747374
temps?

>>60747383
if you have enough money to buy a 7700k you shouldn't care about the resale value, and you can still use it without delidding it, it's only if you're autistic enough to care about the small potential temp improvement or if you're overclocking to the limit that you should delid

>>60747402
Topped out at 70C I think during benchmarking. Never did a Prime95 run though and I'm looking at a bigger cooler to see if I can hit 5Ghz.

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>>60747373
>reddit spacing
This explains it. You've on the wrong website. I think reddit may be more to your liking.

>>60745892
Wow, that's like 7 whole burger dollars.

>>60747429
> using the enter key is now too advanced for weebs
This is just sad.

>>60747429
>he associates paragraphs with reddit
you're literally the one who should fuck off b2reddit

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>>60747426
bretty nice desu

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>>60747448
>space after the >
jej. I notice you stopped your reddit spacing
>>60747450
>he associates paragraphs with reddit
no, just the unnecessary space between them. It's like you want my mouse wheel to wear out prematurely.

>>60747426
>>60747462
Just did a small FFT test at stock clocks for max heat.
>92C and rising
Jesus. Though I don't think my fans are setup right now since I had to uninstall Gigabyte's motherboard shit because it has some massive bugs in it.

>>60746332
>bitching about cherry picking
>will literally only accept results for a single type of workload

wew

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>>60747524
nice try @falseflaggin pajeet

>>60747514
This shitposting has a place on 4chan, and it is called /jp/. This is still not relevant to the dicussion.

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>>60747545
What discussion? All I see is you sperging.

>>60747544
>comparing Prime 95's torture test to anything real world
Anon pls, nothing gets through that test under like 80C.

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>>60747448

>>60739295
M8 you are retarded.
Ofc Intel has more %, because Intel btfo AMD the last years.So Intel has a huge fan base.
Think 2-3 years forwards. If Intel continue this shit,you can swap the graph around.

>>60739226
Why do you /g/tards get so mad when any one mentions obvious superior intel performance in video games?
Games are the ones who pushing the common consumer to choose the cpu. And of course any one who has money would choose intel.
Your media creators/math smartz guys/etc are vocal minority. Good performance in those programs wont sell more than good performance in games.
I have amd(because it was cheap) and while it's kinda okay in pc games it sucks ass in most of the emulators. I wish i wasn't living in 3rd world and could afford at least current gen i5.

>>60747524
high temps with prime95 is normal you idiot, it's not like you're getting thermal shutdown

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>>60747687
nice try intelshill

>tfw the only person more incompetent than AMD is Brian Krzanich

>>60747687
especially this HEDT 16-18 core crap is fucking irrelevant for 99%+ of users, most people are
still going to buy 2-4 core cpus not a $1000+ high TDP monstrosity

>>60747720
I know it is but my 4670k with this heatsink would stop at like 90C.

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>>60747745
my 6600k is gonna be gr8 for all gayms for the next 6-8 yrs at the very least

It was a gr8 investment desu

>>60747687
HEDT has bananas high margins.

>>60747687
>obvious superior intel performance with $350 i7 in video games at 1080p 144hz while using a 1080 or above

That seems like a pretty limited setup for "obviously superior", anon.

>>60747779
>my 6600k is gonna be gr8 for all gayms for the next 6-8 yrs at the very least
Try 2-3 if you're lucky. Coffee Lake S is moving up to 6 cores. Game developers won't have any excuse.

>>60747819
>Game developers won't have any excuse.
LOOOOOOOOL consoles are still a thing and you can't magically parallelize everything without traveling in time or adding frames of latency. game developers aren't going to add anything that affects gameplay, just visual effects, and that's all on the gpu

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>>60747856
You know all modern consoles are running 8 core AMD CPUs, right?

>in b4 switch
Not a console.

>>60747779
>games
this isn't /v/

>>60747885
a 4 core intel cpu is much faster than an 8 core console cpu dumbass

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>>60747897
The point is it has more cores, you donut.

>>60747912
kill yourself idiot, if the game logic has to run on a weak 8 thread console cpu they're not going to fully utilize 32 high performance threads

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>>60747883

>>60747923
Coffee Lake S is 6 cores, though. Obviously, nobody is buying HEDT for muh gaymes.

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>>60747923
>ps4 pro
>weak

excse me i gotta go play in 4k 60fps on my 60" HDR tv, u gentlemen keep going

>>60747949
>>60747952
a high end 4 core cpu will be sufficient for the typical pc gamer for the foreseeable future

>>60747936
Check that sick memory size yo

>>60747952
too bad the ps4 pro doesn't make use of these 4k 60fps, might as well stick to a 720p tv

>>60747883

Intel could literally rebadge Ivy Bridge processors and sell them for $300 and they'd still beat similarly priced AMD processors.

I feel like intel could just lay back for 5 years, keep selling their current shit and when AMD finally announces their """""""rival"""""""", a year or so later than anticipated, intel could just increase clock speeds by 500 Mhz and the problem would be solved.

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>>60747952
>Use dogshit textures, low poly models, no AA, no AF, and upscale a 1280x720 image to 4k
>Call it 4k
>Gaymurz think it's a miracle from god

>>60747995
That's because you're a stupid retard that's been BTFO in every thread you posted in today.

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>>60747986
some little something called Horizon called

>>60747968
Can't even utilize it all and it's not worth $100 more

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>thread devolves into nip toon smug posting

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>>60748084
>implying there's an issue

>>60748061
>doom nightmare
>290X MSRP at launch was 500$+

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>>60748144
pol is that way u disgusting racist---------->

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>>60748161
>As for the 4GB R9 290 vs. 8GB R9 390 comparison, there was nothing to see here. Most games didn't consume more than 4GBs of VRAM, but there were cases such as in Assassin's Creed Syndicate where with almost 5GBs of memory usage, there was still not a single frame difference. Moreover, in this Assassin's Creed Syndicate example the 290 and 390 were good for just 26fps on average, so clearly the quality settings will need to be reduced for achieving playable performance and consequently memory use will drop.

>The 390 and 390X are really graphics cards we never wanted. At the time of their release the Radeon R9 290 and 290X were exceptional buys. The 290X cost just $330, while today the 390X costs around $100 more for no additional performance and it is no different with the 290 and 390.

>We see plenty of gamers claiming that the 390 and 390X are excellent buys due to their 8GB frame buffer ensuring that they are "future proofed," and well, that simply isn't the case, as neither GPU has the horsepower to efficiently crunch that much data. Perhaps the only valid argument here is that the larger frame buffer could support Crossfire better, but we haven't seen any concrete evidence of this yet.

>>60744044
Its a meme, hell I'm running my 3570k at 4.6 @ 1.34 volts and just doing 25 minutes on prime95 is good enough, no crashes or stability issues whatsoever.

>>60745892

Oh shit mane. You sent me a free WAT sticker a long time ago

>>60748793
I know a guy that crashes on prime95 and still doesn't care because that's the only program that pushes the CPU that hard. Shit's bananas, yo.

>>60748827
Really?! I thought Intel burn in test was the worst?

>>60748870
It's probably worse, but yeah.

>>60748827
I concur though.
What's the deal with the stability mania, if the OC dont crash under normal usage who t f cares?
If I ever get a couple crashes then I'll scale back

>>60749359
Don't want to blow up their CPUs I guess.

>>60749387
wouldn't torture tests actually increase the risk for it to "blow up" while under normal everyday use as long as voltages aren't crazy there's no risk at all?

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>>60741158
>defending (((INTEL)))

You should know better.

>>60749359
yeah who cares about crashes it's not like we do anything besides playing video games

>>60748827
P95 is useless on modern Intel CPUs. I've had OCs stable in P95 and IBT for long ass periods of time and they would BSOD within 30 minutes of BF4 every single time, despite both CPU load and temperature being much, much lower. The whole "get it as hot as possible" mentality doesn't work from Haswell and up. That sounds like a solid pragmatic approach though, if you're using the system for entertainment why give a fuck about P95 crashes? Worst case scenario your entertainment gets interrupted and you drop 100MHz or slightly bump up the voltage, not the end of the world.

>>60749387
CPUs don't get damaged unless you're absolutely insane with the voltage. At such high voltage levels you're far beyond the point where you can expect to get a usable day-to-day OC, so you either know what you're doing and what you're pushing for or you're a misinformed retard punching random numbers into the BIOS. Basically read up on the safe voltage levels and you'll be fine, even if it throttles it won't get damaged.

>>60749418
Yeah, increased heat would technically make it wear out sooner.

>>60746688
>longevity
LOL! Find me literally anyone who says an Intel CPU from the past 10 years had a higher than a 1% failure rate. Longevity argument is complete bullshit. Intel CPUs throttle at 100 C and they could easily go 120 C without damage, but they'll never get that hot because of aforementioned throttling.

>>60749451
nice meme idiot. amd is just as bad or worse with its deceptive marketing and shady business practices

>>60749583
>shady business practices
Name one.

>>60741420
>muh video encoding
only matters for youtubers

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>>60749583
>amd is just as bad or worse

>>60749583
I doubt AMD has managed to do anything in its lifetime that even comes close to the shady shit Intel has pulled so far.

>>60749594
naming their platform x399 to try to look better than intel x299

>>60746688
The poor heat transfer is a problem exclusively in terms of OC headroom, the CPU will far outlive its useful lifetime anyway since CPUs just throttle when they get too hot, we're far beyond the days when features like that didn't exit.

>>60749616
Wew I guess P-rating was also a shady business tactic.

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>>60746806
But anon GPUs already come delidded.

>>60749599
>muh gaymes
only matters for 1080p 144hz w/ 1080ti
>>60749616
But it is better.

>>60749594
>>60749615
Never heard of John Fruehe?

>>60749636
>1080p 144hz
Actually it matters for any resolution and 144Hz. If you're buying a CPU now and keeping it for a few years you may very well upgrade to a graphics card which can push 1440p 144FPS for instance a few years down the line, you'd want to take that into account. That being said I wouldn't buy any quad core nowadays, I'd wait for that 6C Intel mainstream CPU and for Threadripper to show up to see the entire playing field.

>>60746899
>The user should be responsible for PHYSICALLY DAMAGING a processor they already paid a premium for overclocking for, to get the best results

You are seriously fucking retarded. Never return here.

>>60749682
I'm not counting on Volta being a huge upgrade over the 1080ti, though. Unless you're gonna SLI or something in which case get that 4 core I guess. And kiss your wallet goodbye. lol

>>60739295
First off
>gaymer
second off
>april

>>60749682
I'd definitely buy a quad core today, if I needed a new PC. Happy with my i5-4690 at the moment.

>>60749466
oh boo hoo so what if u get one BSOD? You gonna an hero?
Also what kinna moran OC's his working machine

>>60749716
4c/4t 4 lyfe

>>60749716

I'll be enjoying my hexacore beast for the same cost with a clear and concise upgrade path for the next 4 years.

>>60741333

>>60750692
Yup AMD's gonna pull the plug on AM4 as soon as possible, because they're literally Intel 2.0. Retard.

>>60750714
ryzen 2 won't be worth upgrading from 6 core ryzen dumbshit, you're living a lie, none of your upgrade scenarios are reasonable

>>60750692

Lol. Enjoy buying your Z370 mother board for your 14nm 9600 i5, don't forget your warranty breaking delid tool.

I'll just get my soldered 7nm 2600X running at 5Ghz.

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>>60750792
7nm Zen 2 on a high power process is going to dumpster Intel's entire product stack until 2021.

>>60750811

Oh? So you think Intel will follow AMDs lead, again?

>>60750825
k

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>>60750792
Oh, so we've got a crystal ball that can magically see into the future and see that Zen 2 isn't worth upgrading to. Oh, wait, that's just a projector. Nevermind.

>>60750692
>>60750792
>>60750811
>>60750866
Reminder to report shitposters.

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>>60750859

Lol

>>60750892

This is what an intel ass blasted fanboy looks like. Drink it in boys, it's been a long time coming.

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>>60739431
Steam is great source for looking at computer demographics.

you're a dishonest idiot if you think it's worth it to upgrade your cpu within 1-2 generations

if you sell your cpu second hand you can sell your motherboard too

and a motherboard only costs like $100. $150 for a really good one

>>60750909
Those sure are some sour grapes.

>>60750909
You have to understand Zen is a brand new arch with a lot of room for improvement. There is a lot of low hanging fruit. I'm expecting 10-15% better IPC.

>>60750934
keep telling yourself that IDIOT

you'd be better off buying a better cpu in the first place like 8 core ryzen or even threadripper (if you need the cores) instead of going buying a 6 core and then immediately upgrading to ryzen 2

>>60750909

Maybe I started small with six cores, just so I could go big on the next generation that has a performance increase similar to going from Nehalem to Ivy Bridge?

Sell the great performance to price ratio Ryzen 5, and get me Pinnacle Ridge.

>>60750953

I believe they said 10-15% IPC imorovement for Zen+, and 5% imorovement for the next two iterations. Then we get the next core design with DDR5 and PCIe 4.

>>60750984
>>60751009
the last release came short of expectations but let's just wait, the next big thing AMD has in store for us is just around the corner™

>>60750909
You really have no idea how big the gains will be going from 14nm to 7nm and going from an LPP to an HPP.

This isn't like Intel's yearly warmed over refreshes kid.

>>60751022
See >>60750886

And it's not like Ryzen is bad for the future now.

I mean, they aren't trying to sell me hiuse fires with vendor lock in and inconsistent CPU feature support.

>>60751043

They will come around. Gotta let them marinate in their salty tears and enormous, landfill size butt hurt.

>>60751043
keep believing that while amd keeps failing financially

>>60741034
announcing reports is against the rules, buddy

>>60739226

intel is becoming an antiquated memorabilia if this carries on, the benches are going to be stratospheric

arch devs overtime

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>>60751072

Literally you right now.

>>60751022
>the last release came short of expectations
Yeah, no it didn't.

>>60751087
they almost never ban for it and you're shitting the thread up further by saying it's against the rules

>>60751022
>>60751093

alot of misconceptions and fake news from launch as the prompt optimization with the w10 scheduler was very impressive

>>60751072
>deflection! change to something else!
AMD is well on the way to financial recovery, thanks.

>>60751093
yeah that's why you have to start small with a 6 core so you can immediately upgrade when the next revision comes out which you hope is 10% better

>>60751087
He's not announcing his action.
Given this level of comprehension it's no wonder you shill for a inferior product.

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>>60751072
People without the technical understanding required to realize the performance gains implicit in a significant density increase and who don't even know what LPP or HPP stand for should keep their fucking mouths shut in CPU discussions.

>>60751109
absolutely ebin

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>>60751103

>>60750904
*For gaymer computer demographics.

didn't expect threadripper, just naples but this is going to be really epic desu

>>60739258
>0.20 USD gain in the last 5 years
wew lad

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>>60751103

>He doesn't understand semiconductor design and efficiency improvements on a brand new architecture

>>60747669
>Everyone changes their CPU every 2-3 years.

>>60751130
They showed it off at Computex. It shreks their blender test in 13.04 seconds. https://youtu.be/NeuamYdfU4w?t=16m

>not even considering buying a new cpu for at least 2-3 years

man these last few releases have been such a shitshow.

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>>60751133
(You)

>>60751152
Don't pop a vein in your forehead.

>>60751151

running devils canyon at 4.8, matches 7700k
strongest single core ftw

the whole 14nm and lake haifa dev botnetted show is crumbling, implosion just make a new arch already

expected when focus is on IoS, cloud

you stupid kids and 30 year old permavirgins really don't have anything better to do, literally /b/ tier wastes of time, you're stuck in a bad habit of shitposting which isn't even fun it's just a plain unhealthy habit

>>60751166
>just make a new arch already
2021 lol.

>>60751152
your tears of impotent rage are delicious.

>le epin trole!!1
>i sure accomplished something today i baited some autists over the internet!!!!!!

>>60751195
I don't know who's trolling who anymore.

>>60751152
Dude, you can't screech like this and expect to be taken seriously. 3X kill yourself and you finished it off with a "kid". Take some deep breaths.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAxYycS1Z0s

i don't even expect to be "taken seriously", what is this, reddit? fucking self-important little pricks. yeah enjoy your am4 upgrade plan i'm sure you'll save a lot of money buying 2-3 cpus in 4 years

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>>60751237
Your tears are DELICIOUS :^)

>>60739354
You have zero understanding of finance.

That just means the platform launch met expectations. Came in on target. The market shouldn't have a big jump unless something unexpected happened because investors priced in the future platform launch.

>>60739226

7700k main selling point was integrated graphs that could run 4k60hz which was a feat in itself

now integrated graphs are dropped altogether on *99 price premium

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>>60751237

Lol.

What are you, poor?

Or are you just used to 1% IPC improvements?

>>60751277
if you're such a patrician why don't you buy an 1800x instead of buying an inferior 6 core ryzen which you'll use for a year+ before you can upgrade it

>>60751237

>brand loyalty without substance

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>>60747936
DELET THIS

But really the 290 had a slight memory bottleneck and the 390 fixed it.

>>60747936
>>60748210
Msrp was 550 you dummy?
But no no you're right trust some faggot tech journalists instead of amd themselves

>>60750825
>7nm
?

>>60751263
That's not what stockholders want to hear.

>>60751375
the price came down fast and 390x was an overpriced scam compared to the current price of 290x

>>60751407
what's your point? people aren't going to dump their shares just because intel didn't win the lottery this time

>>60751408
Ya but ur gay lol

>>60751435
lel

>>60751306

Buying the 1600X isn't patrician? 1800X binning, nearly identical performance for 50% of the cost?

You have an interesting definition of "patrician".

>>60751461
and then you want to upgrade it as soon as ryzen 2 comes out lmfao

>>60751400

Zen+ is moving to a highpower 7nm process node..

>>60751474
and you're a highpower fag

>>60751474
He doesn't even know what LPP and HPP mean. Don't bother.

>>60751467

Yup. Higher clocks, higher IPC, smaller node, and every instruction set and refinement they couldn't put in to the first iteration of Zen.

And then I'm good to sit on that until the next best architecture gets released.

>>60751497
you're literally delusional and acting like knowing what LPP and HPP mean is something special just because you learned it yesterday

>>60751467
Depending on what you want it for. 1600 is choice now, if you want an 8core Ryzen2.
If you're making profit and calculations to do so will be much faster on a 1800x, get that.
And is just hard to recommend a 1500x as it's four core. I doubt there'll be a secondhand market if you can't ship it to a country with low wages like America.

I love the collective ayymd shilling here

>>60751596

It's almost as bad as the Nvidia and Intel shilling.

>>60751624
Definitely isn't, that's why I said collective
It's the same with linux, the crusade against le big bad corporations here is laughable

>>60747995
>Intel could literally rebadge Ivy Bridge processors and
...lose entire server market.
That's what going to happen btw

>>60739295
mac os is only 4% OS market share, what's your point

>>60752716
yep amd is shooting itself in the foot, desperate to take short term profits and fucking over both intel and amd in the long run

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>>60749716
LOL
>2017
>being a quadlet

>>60739226

Intel benchmarks out

>>60753242

>>60753242

>>60753242

Goodbye AMDpoos

>>60753242
>>60753284
samefag
Looks like the shills are out /g/

>>60753284

rip AMD