When will normalfags stop calling the GNU operating system

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, systemd/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, systemd plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning systemd system made useful by the systemd corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the systemd system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of systemd which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the systemd system, developed by the systemd Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the systemd operating system: the whole system is basically systemd with Linux added, or systemd/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of systemd/Linux.

>>60724892
>when will linuxfags stop calling router and cloud servers firmware operating system?

>>60724892
LiGNUx.

>>60724892
they should have thought of a better name. linux is easier to say than gee-en-you. if you say 'new' nobody will even know what you are talking about.

When they all collectively develop autism which isn't going to happen any time soon

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>>60725337
It's supposed to be "gah-noo" which is even worse because it sounds like something an autistic child repeats to their self.

>>60724892
GNU is only a tiny portion of Linux operating system. I only have few GNU tools on my Arch.

Almost everything that's any good for Linux comes from RedHat.

Maybe we should just call the OS Redhat/Linux.

FSF and GNU are dying.

at this point it's GNU/Linux/Systemd maybe we should call whole thing Systemd
>>60725337
they tried to push Lignux but didn't suceed. If you have any good alternatives I would be happy to use it

>>60725618
>GNU/Linux/Systemd
this meme basically means that the community accepted systemd, which isn't correct

>>60725434
Wrong... It's ñu

>>60725916
https://www.gnu.org/pronunciation/pronunciation.html

>>60725784
we can call distros with systemd "GNU/Linux/Systemd" to point out that systemd is actually bigger part of the system than other people think, as a way to protest it but it sounds autistic as fuck and no people except me would call it like that.

>>60724892
when it stops using the linux kernel.

>>60725977
I do so to show GNUtards how retarded their argument is. The world calls the OS Linux, that is the accepted name. People aren't going to start calling it by its individual parts just to soothe some commie's butthurt ego.

>>60724892
When will autists stop calling the Linux operating system "GNU"?

>>60726005
there is no kernel for linux
linux is the kernel

>>60726005
you wish

>WSL; doesn't contain Linux
guess how people call it
Linux on Windows

>>60726065
Linux is both the name of the kernel and the name of the operating system, regardless of what GNUtards like to claim. If Stallman wants something different, he should've put a clause about that into the GPL.

>>60725337
yep. i get where rms is coming from when he named it gnu
>someone who enjoys playful cleverness
but it's not production appealing for the same reasons hence it's not used
linux sounds tough and right for marketing
it is really just gnu but what do

>>60725618
>they tried to push
who?

>>60726163
It isn't. Torvalds didn't sit down to write a operating system, made a list of what is needed, developed it an asked around who will help, but GNU did, our community did. Linux came like 10 years later.
>then why does everyone call it Linux?
Because "Open Source" companies shill it like that in the media, which again gets its funds by the same companies. Open Source companies focus on profit and dislike the ideals of free software, so they try to get rid of any trace of it.

>>60725916
Stallman thinks he's saying ñu, just as he thinks the system is called GNU and that he can speak Spanish. But no, he's fucking saying gaanhoo, the system should be called Linux and he can't speak Spanish.

>>60726229
>linux sounds tough and right for marketing

Exactly. When you say Linux, it just rolls off the tongue and conjures up mental images of server clusters housed in data centers. What do you think of when you say "GNU?"

>>60726023
Torvalds isn't a sane man either, to him as long as people use Linux they can do any shit they want, no matter how closed source it is only thing he cares is saying "I made the kernel that is used most Operating Systems!"
Linux Foundation wants to spread Linux, they don't care about free software. As long as kernel is Linux, nothing is important
GNU/FSF wants to spread free software. They don't care about what kernel is as long as it's free.
You can call it GNU/Linux if you care about free software or Linux if you "care about Linux kernel" since the thing we are mentioning is not totally GNU or totally Linux.
>>60726229
LiGNUx was RMS' idea if i remember correctly either him or FSF

>>60726295
>It isn't. Torvalds didn't sit down to write a operating system, made a list of what is needed, developed it an asked around who will help, but GNU did, our community did. Linux came like 10 years later.

Irrelevant. The operating system with Linux as its kernel is still called Linux. Don't like it, use the GNU operating system with the GNU kernel.

>>60726324
>Irrelevant. The operating system with Linux as its kernel is still called Linux.
So stop saying "Android" right now.

>>60726336
If Android didn't sound cool, everyone would call it Linux. This is how naming and marketing works. Imagine if in all their gayness, Google decided to name it HomOS instead of Android? Do you think everyone would be around talking about their homos phone? No, they would call it Linux.

Linux is an operating system. GNU is just a bunch of tools that are optionally added to most distributions of the Linux operating system. GNU is not a part of Linux.

>>60726405
t. brainwashed millenial

>>60726405
Hell, with musl starting to bud, pretty soon Linux won't even be using glibc anymore.

>>60724892
When will freetards shitting my board with their bullshit?

>>60724892
Creator of Linux clearly said how to call HIS OS.
richard understallman has no authority here.

No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.
Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.
One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you?
(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever.

>>60726460
Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.
Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.
You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.

>>60726431
I mean, you're right. Basically you can build a system completly GNU free, but we know how it ends when you don't protect you freedoms, right? Look at BSD, or as I've recently taken to calling it, macOS.

>>60726482
Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD?
If there is a moral buried in this rant, maybe it is this:
Be grateful for your abilities and your incredible success and your considerable fame. Continue to use that success and fame for good, not evil. Also, be especially grateful for Linux' huge contribution to that success. You, RMS, the Free Software Foundation, and GNU software have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux. You have changed the world. Now, go forth and don't be a nag.

>>60726497
>>60726482
>>60726460
Linux will always be just Linux. GNU will always be just GNU. GNU/Linux is the combination of both.

>>60726460
>citation needed

>>60724892
When it stops using the Linux kernel.

>>60724892
The same day they will stop calling sharing "theft".

It's all about profit and the loudest voices are the one's with enough cash.

>>60724892
Never, because it's just Linux.

When stallman accepts Trump as our god emporer.