/fglt/ - Friendly GNU (with Linux added) Thread

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Took me hours to get NFS working but it's working.

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>be arch linux
>my operator installs Xfce as desktop environment
>installs MATE later
>xfce4-notifyd and mate-notifications-daemon are in conflict but pacman doesn't know this
>they both actually both provide notification-daemon and 'notify-send'
>notifications are fucked up and he has no idea why
>doesn't figure it out for the better part of a day
>D E V I L I S H

I'm thinking of legitmately installing gentoo. I used it about 12 years ago, and did a stage 1 install, but I was just following guides and didn't actually understand what I was doing. My main memory of the process was waiting days for the Athlon XP CPU to compile everything.

I'm wondering, how long should a typical installation take using a broadlel dual core? Someone wrote that it was shorter than a Windows 7 install, but I can't tell if they were being facetious.

When will it be the year og the Linux/GNU desktop

>>60655099
A long ass time and it would be frying. Personally I wouldn't use it unless it was on pretty good hardware. That's just me though, it can be very beneficial on lower specs.

>>60655123
GNU is the initial contribution so it's proper to call it GNU/Linux or GNU plus Linux or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU with Linux added.

I'm trying to install Arch and I'm getting an error when trying to install the base system files.

I know I've got an internet connection and I can ping out.

Error: gpgme error: no data
Error: gpgme error: no data
Error: gpgme error: no data

Error: failed to synchronize any databases
error: failed to install packages to new root

Devuan

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Why aren't you using Ubuntu Christian Edition?

http://ubuntuce.com/

>>60655134

To be the most correct, it is just Linux.

Most devices in the world that run Linux do not run GNU.

>>60655213
First of all this isn't a fucking smart phone thread and second you are actually mistaken. GNU is still the primary contribution and Android and you can not reliably compile it without gcc.

>>60655179
Because I'm Muslim

>>60655070

notify-send is provided by libnotify.
It shouldn't mess anything up if you have two notification daemons installed, it will only display one, but might not display the one you want.

>>60655140

Which ISO are you using to install it? Did you verify its hash to make sure it's not corrupted?
If it's not that, you're either following the guide wrong or using a shitty video guide or someone else's guide.

Post all the steps you did before that.

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>>60655521

Got you covered, shaqiq.

https://muslimslinux.wordpress.com/

>>60655017
So is openSUSE worth trying as a daily driver OS? I'm currently thinking about giving it a try after I finish my current project.
How's the driver support? With Debian I had problems with my trackpoint and bluetooth adapter in the past

Whats a good pdf viewer that supports stuff like annotations, bookmarks and such?

the stock one from linux mint xfce doesnt have these features

is there a distro (preferably Ubuntu based), that does not have horrible mouse acceleration out of the box or at least lets you disable it.

Using budgie currently and there are no settings for it.
Come to think of it, I can't remember ever seeing acceleration settings in any distro I used so far.

>>60656141
you wan't to change your desktop environment, not distro.
mate / xfce are good choices and do what you ask for

>>60655968

>daily driver
Kill yourself.

>>60656120

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications#Readers_and_Viewers

Evince does, others on that list too.

>>60656141

Mouse settings are distribution specific. Only an idiot would switch distributions because of it. The mere thought of doing that is so retarded that I have no words.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration

>>60656387
i-isn't that how you kids talk these days?

>>60656465
na, they say things like "Kill yourself."

Why does this work?
Since the whole statement is wrapped in single quotes, won't that interpret my variable ($KOMP) literally?

sh -c 'case "$HOSTNAME" in "masina") KOMP=192.168.1.102;; "masina-l") KOMP=192.168.1.100;; esac; xfce4-terminal --geometry 110x26 -x ncmpcpp -h "$KOMP"'

Wayland overheating my amd graphics card with 6-8 celsius degrees more then under X11, no matter the compositor, i tried weston 1.12 a few month ago without xwayland and now sway 1.13 with one, maybe problem with mpv?

How can I figure out which distro is the right choice for me?

>>60657949
install gentoo

>>60657962
I've ran it in the past but I don't feel that it's the right one for me.

>>60657968
Debian is optimal choice.

Recommend me some ppa's for debian like oibaf with daily mesa get builds.

>>60657999
how about just install mesa-git, fagit

>>60658057
Thank you kind man, you mother is beautiful woman, removing oibaf ppa right now.

>>60655682

Im using the current release that's posted on the website: 2017.05.01
And the kernel is: 4.10.13

Im following these guides to help with the install process:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_guide
https://www.ostechnix.com/install-arch-linux-latest-version/

I haven't checked the hash, I will have to find out how to do that. Im using Rufus to make an install USB.

>>60659428
just use arch-anywhere 2bh

>>60662008
I didn't know this was a thing. I appreciate the information. Im gonna load this onto a USB now.

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>>60655521

Can someone explain why there is two threads? The other one was made first.

>>60663779
Meant to say this one was first

>>60663802
Good question. The other one just picked up more steam I guess.

>>60657984
I installed Debian 9 KDE a few days ago, being a MS Win user in job (software dev). Have been impressed about it, so, recreated my current Win 10 env based on Debian. Got Java and Eclipse Dev, CDT, Sublime, NVidia drivers and Steam, keepass, Renoise and even Reaper DAW (via wine) run smoothly, accessing projects and data on the other partitions. Now, switched boot manager to default to Debian and try to migrate to GNU Linux step by step. (Did not try out how my Adobe Master Suite CS 5 work in wine yet). Life is interesting...

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help im drunk and dont understand whats going on

>>60662043
Tell me how it goes, friend! :-3

I have installed infinality from the aur, looks good, but I can't find the file where I can set the font smoothing. Following arch wiki didn't help

>>60656531
Well yeah, it doesn't get interpreted as a variable by the shell that runs this command, but by sh

>>60655099
>shorter than a windows 7 install
maybe if you count installing windows 7 without service pack and downloading 280+~500+180 updates, because this takes 2 days usually.
ofc not if you just install wayland and the wayland i3 version

>>60655123
If you look at how it has been growing and all the support it is receiving, I'd say
>years before 2016
>linux finally get attention, devs starts to use it
>people get tired of windows and start doing the switch, slowly
>2016 and 2017
>a lot of contributions to the OS coming from a lot of companies, more games are ported to it, wine receive DX11 compatibility
>people get even more tired of windows
>2018 steam OS is finally out of beta, valve creates its own steam machine and going to market it properly
>for the release of the OS and console, steam decide to have a few exclusives games to help its platform grow
>half life 3, portal 3 and left 4 dead 3 are linux exclusive games for a year.
>2019 the steam machines are here, people buy it or just dual boot with linux
>market share instantly grow and becomes as relevant as OS X
>seeing the impressive growth, devs finally have linux is mind when creating new games
>blizzard decide to port their games to linux
>people just ditch windows in favour to linux
>it is now 2025

>>60655502
if you go by contributions its probably more microsoft/linux than gnu(fsf)/linux at this point of time

>>60655017
For those who use gentoo, how long does it take to compile wayland? Is it faster than compiling X11?

During the compiling of the OS was recognizing all my network drivers, now it`s only one, and not the ethernet cable connected to the computer, do you guys know what could have I done wrong?

>>60665585
What distro.

why should I care what kernel version i am running?

>>60665593
Gentoo gnu+linux

>>60665633
It was working during the install CD and now doesn't work when you boot into the finished distro? Did you compile the correct drivers when doing the kernel step?

>>60665633
You have to reconfgure your kernel to include the proper drivers for the NIC in question

>>60665671
Getting a step back, how would I go about it?
You mean the driver that was present during the install is not anymore?

>>60665700
You guys can hint me where to go about it?

>>60665701
>>60665730
Read the gentoo handbook, what manufacturer made your NIC card. Intel?

What do you do for fun on GNU/Linux?

>>60665761
Yes, I just booted and the internet works by default, without the USB it doesn`t.

I don`t understand because before I finished it, I put the ethernet to run by default, yet still no cigar.

>>60665784
Shitpost on imageboards

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Any reason to use a netinstall over a regular install except choosing what applications I want to initially install?

>>60664404
>drunk
spare the world of your inexcusable existence and neck yourself

>>60669402
neck me daddy

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Install Source Mage GNU/Linux.

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I just recently found out truecolor is finally quite broadly supported on Linux.

Summary here:
https://gist.github.com/XVilka/8346728


This should finally make it easy to have a gentoo-themed terminal even if you prefer a solarized8 themed vim inside said terminal and other themes on other applications.

>>60669192
That and smaller download and/or storage medium. I personally prefer the full first dvd image.

>>60669491
How does the kernel have anything to do with terminal emulator color support?

>>60664404
add -a to it

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>>60669636
He was most probably misusing the term "Linux".

>>60669491
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>60669636
>>60669715
I mean the OS that might more specifically be designated to be systemd/Xorg/Linux but that normal people call just Linux.

Has to do with it since not enough pieces of software supported truecolor for it to be viable.

Now it's apparently quite feasible and you can rid yourself of anachronistic 256-or-less color palettes.

>>60669707
just shows location to zip file
how do i kill this process when the pid grows every fucking time i look at it

>>60669744
>normal people
The ill-informed, the dumb, careless and lazy and those who have an anti free software philosophy agenda.

>>60669786
deleting the file fixed it, though i'd like to know if there was another way to do it without:
>deleting
>rebooting

but whatever

>>60669786
post the output of

pgrep -a xfe

>>60669809
was just the pid, then /home/[user]/Downloads/latest.zip
i'm not sure what latest.zip was but i already unzipped it, so it's a nonproblem

something like

14082 /home/me/Downloads/latest.zip

>>60669824
err, xfe before /home

>>60669786
kill yourself you drunken waste of oxygen

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>>60669838
i'm not drunk anymore dude, i took a nap, now it's just a massive hangover
chill, friend

>>60669845
people who drink their problems away instead of solving them should either rethink their life or commit suicide

>>60669845
also, people who drink due to peer pressure or because they wouldn't have fun otherwise should either find new friends or absolutely commit suicide

>>60664457
Thanks for your suggestion. I finally got Arch working. And that installer made it easy to install a DE and some other software I'd needed.

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>>60669910
hope you enjoy u're experience
>>60669905
>>60669876
can you calm down friend
it's like you've never had amaretto before

also why is 4chan refusing to load, or load css

>>60669910
glad to hear someone fell for the Arch meme

>>60669910
you're retarded
>>60662008
and you're irresponsible (for enabling retards)

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/horst3180/a/

why doesnt this work with firefox 49?

>>60670038
>using such an outdated browser
enjoy your ransomware

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>>60655017

>me trying to write a bash script

When echoing a filename in a script as input if it contains spaces then shit crashes because it thinks it's more than one file.
What's the solution for printing filenames with spaces with \ ?

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>>60670072

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>>60670038
>>60670102
>morons thinking they're safe on le secure thru obscure ganoo slash leenucks
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1060828.html

>>60670100
post the script

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Is there a way to have seperate inputs for microphone and line in so I can use both at the same time?

>>60670169
>has flash installed
>ran firefox as root

Wow, some moron gave his browser administrator privileges and was surprised when it was used against him.

>>60670221

It's simply a line like

> command $file

$file has spaces in it but command expects one file so it crashes.

>>60670100
echo "$file"

>>60670248
your browser doesn't need administrator provileges to fuck up your home directory (all the files you care about)
also, there are more ways to get infected without flash

>>60670251
command "$file"

>>60670278
>>60670269
Thanks

>>60670277
If there are, they're rarely a shiny pokemon. I'm pretty sure 99.9% of desktop Linux users never got hacked no matter what shady shit sites they visited.

>>60670100
put the filename in quotations

>>60670251
command \""$file"\"
might work, I'm phoneposting so I can't test

>>60670300
better safe than sorry
how hard can it be to keep your browser up to date?

>>60665585
Grammar.

>>60670300
gnu+linux

>>60655017
Im an ubuntu user. Im thinking in making a switch to another distro. Im thinking in Gentoo or Trisquel, should i make the switch? Does gentoo really worth the pain or is worthless? What about Trisquel?
Thanks for any anwer

>>60670300
>>60670277
>>60670248
>>60670169
yeah but how do i install the theme, thats all i care about here. ff 53 doesnt work with it either

>>60670417
trisquel = ubuntu w/o nonfree stuff
I'd go for debian (or better yet devuan), arch or void before gentoo

>>60670446
try installing it from github
https://github.com/horst3180/arc-firefox-theme
if it doesn't work, submit an issue or patch it yourself
or just take some other css and adjust it to make it look like arc

Here is a challenge for those who want it

Install Blackmagic DaVinci Resolve on your GNU (with Linux added) OS

Version 12.5 or beta 14 doesn't matter

It's an .sh file

Something will probably go wrong

If you succeed you should post your terminal commands

>>60670536
It probably doesn't work for you because of some dependencies.

>>60669434
doing it right now senpai

Installed Gentoo the other day and now I'm trying to get Xorg to work. I enabled evdev and KMS within the kernel to support Intel integrated cards (working on an x60T), rebuilt, rebooted, added

INPUT_DEVICES="evdev synaptics"

and

VIDEO_CARDS="intel"

to the

/etc/portage/make.conf

file, ran

# emerge --ask x11-base/xorg-server

# env-update

# source /etc/profile

and then

$ startx

but no luck. Do I need to install a wm like i3?

I use my computer to work.
Is gentoo a good OS for someone who works? I can compile my shit during my sleep time. But it is stable as Ubuntu?

>>60670635
>Do I need to install a wm like i3?
you don't need to do anything

>>60670651
it's good, although I'd urge you to do this >>60670469 if you come from Ubuntu and you aren't very knowledgable

>>60670651
It's as stable as you make it, but it's a rolling release, meaning that the packages normally associated with it are usually the latest version, unlike distros such as Debian stable where "stable" means older but tried and true. You can of course, customize Gentoo to your liking.

>>60670651
it's for people who are constantly in need of fixing or testing something

>>60670670
Well that's great.

>>60670709
it is, isn't it?
it's called freedom
but it comes with great responsibility, so be careful

>Devuan aliases its releases using minor planet names as codenames. Devuan file names follow this release naming scheme.

as much as I dislike systemd this is just too autistic for me
who the fuck remembers minor planet name numbers

>>60670651
it's for people who want to prove their objective superiority to others

>>60670753
>>Devuan aliases its releases using minor planet names as codenames.
>too autistic for me
did you hear any of the ubuntu release codenames?
>>Devuan file names follow this release naming scheme.
what file names?

>>60670721
Well it'd be great if freedom came with better explanations than what's found in the Xorg guide.

>>60670789
this is why people should use non infantilizing distros and gain some knowledge before jumping to gentoo
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xinit

Can gnome image viewer not view images in a zip folder? What can? Its to save space with doujin.

>>60670827
The trouble with those distros is that they hold your hand too often. They're great for getting familiar with the CLI and other basic things, but the challenge of distros like Arch or Gentoo is what make them such a great learning process. Sure I'm complaining, but I enjoy the detective work.

>>60670840
https://superuser.com/questions/462788/read-the-contents-of-a-zipped-file-without-extraction
>If you're just looking to view images inside the archives, you can use Comix or newer MComix to see images inside .zip, .rar, .cbr, and .cbz files without extracting.
took 2 seconds
learn to use google you lazy fuckwit

How can I get Discord working on Arch?

I've got the .tar from the AUR unpacked but I'm not sure how to build it. the makepkg command says the PKGBUILD does not exist.

any vim tips for someone just starting to use it. i know most of the basics(like hjkl movement) and ive added a bit to my .vimrc.

anything that someone whos just starting should really do?

>>60671003
play the vim game mayje

>>60670916
Did you cd into the directory that the PKGBUILD file is in first?

>>60670884
>they hold your hand too often
how does a minimal debian installation hold your hand?
by having an installer?
I did say non infantilizing distros
that includes distros like
>debian/devuan
>arch/parabola
>void
>crux
>slackware
>guixsd
>...
and the source based ones
>gentoo
>funtoo
>exherbo
>source mage
>...

start from a minimal debian installation or arch, install xorg, a wm and everything you need, compile a kernel, etc..
you learn much in the process and you're more prepared to move to a source based distro
if you jump straight to gentoo, you'll just end up needlessly confused because you'd be trying to adjust to both a minimal system that doesn't hold your hand and the source based aspect of it, which is another new dimension to your experience

>I enjoy the detective work
you wouldn't ask other people to find obvious answers for you in that case

>>60670916
Arch is for advanced users only

>>60671071
I just left Parabola after a year of using it and before that, Debian for a few years. But I never compiled from source, configured the kernel or had issues installing a GUI because I never really had to go outside of the defaults. That's why I moved to Gentoo.

>>60671003
run vimtutor

>>60671126
>I just left Parabola after a year of using it and before that, Debian for a few years.
and yet here you are, having trouble with getting xorg to work and asking people here to solve your problems instead of reading guides that you should've read when you used those distros like
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xorg
or something
>But I never compiled from source, configured the kernel or had issues installing a GUI because I never really had to go outside of the defaults.
doesn't mean you couldn't learn anything besides compiling and configuring the kernel

Going to install Gentoo on my old thinkpad t41.
What should i expect? Long compiling times but a lot of knowledge and a very minimal installation? Also an optimized version of linux for an old computer?

>>60671195
Lol. Chill out dude. I'm not asking for anyone to solve my problems. I asked if needed to install a wm and after I got a reply of no, I haven't asked any other questions. For the record, I've actually read through the Xorg page for both Arch and Gentoo but obviously I'll be going over it again.

>>60671126
although gentoo has a great guide on xorg, the only thing it doesn't tell you is how .xinitrc is important and what it should contain because it probably assumes you already know this, implied by the assumption that you're an advanced user who's had experience with this stuff

>>60671237
It'll probably melt before it finishes installing

>>60671284
You think so?

>>60671265
look man, just install a window manager, say i3 for example
create ~/.xinitc and put `exec i3` in it
make sure you have xinit installed
and run startx
also read the arch wiki page on i3
this is basic stuff that you shoul've learned on debian or parabola

>>60671310
>~/.xinitc
.xinitrc*
forgot the 'r'

>>60671237
don't use any heavy DE's
just some basic wm like spectrwm or cwm and urxvt or, better yet, st as your terminal
it'll only melt if your fan is broken

>>60671119
And im trying to get there by using it.

>>60671378
you won't get anywhere by using it
you'll get somewhere by not being a lazy faggot and reading the articles in the wiki

>>60670228
Bump, any help here?

>>60671378
you could learn on an actual distro and not have a non functioning system

>>60671310
>>60671324
Ya I know all of this already, but thanks anyways. I think my issue was that I'm still learning how to use Portage and emerge properly. I admittedly skipped through the info it showed me even though I did a --ask. It seems that twm and xterm weren't including during my install and since I don't have an xinitrc in my home folder, it's defaulting to the file under /etc/ where both twm and xterm are executed within the script.

Why did gnu wait until last to write the most critical part of an os? if theyd just developed hurd early on wouldnt that have made more sense?

>>60664404

 sudo dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda 

That should fix the problem.

>>60671530
Because gnusense is only 10 years old. I kid I kid...
No but really it's because they didn't realize Linus was going to end up being such a assclamp and so the project started late with not as much publicity.

>>60671606
couldnt it just be forked under gpl2? that way you could remove all the binary garbage and just call it hurd_reloaded or something

>>60670552
I tried manjaro and fedora and ubuntu, and I always get something about libssl, even though it's installed

You have to do some really fucky shit to get it running, but it all seems to be unique per person.

I also tried the CentOS .iso they offer but I couldn't get it running.

>>60669990
Who pissed in your corn flakes, faggot?

>>60671392
Noted, I'll start reading the wiki, cunt.

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Which distro do you think plays nice with a MacBookProRetina circa 2015? I installed Fedora a while ago on mine, as well as my Thinkpad x220, using the same exact installer, but got different experiences. Unsurprisingly the Thinkpad is a tad slow but smooth as eggs, and my MacBook is fast and full of weird behaviour.

Boot and shutting down:
>The Macbook boots in no time at all, but will spend enormous amounts of time turning off. Some business with firewalld and something else, I'm talking 5 minutes everytime I want to switch OS.
>The Thinkpad will take its time to get started, but once up and running it feels super nice. Shutting down is no problem.
Sleep and hibernation:
>The Macbook had some weird behaviour with respect to sleeping and hibernation. It would go to sleep just fine, but always immediately wake up, which was annoying when closing the lid. I messed around a bit after some advice, and kinda solved it, but probably messed up a bit as well. Hibernation will weirdly cause the computer to restart.
>Thinkpad sleeps when told to, no fuss.
UI scaling:
>The retina™®© screen of the macbook made most UI either too small, with regular settings, or too big when scaled up x2.0. I only got KDE to work well.
>The thinkpad scree works just fine for any DE.

Which distro do you use on your MacBook?

My GTX 560 Ti finally died and I replaced it with RX 480 but now Debian won't boot. What do?

Also, which AMD drivers are the best on Linux?

>>60671946
go to recovery mode. Im guessing your using an amd pcu so it is booting but its got no on board?

>>60671955
No, I have an Intel CPU but the P67 chipset which cannot use the onboard graphics.

>>60671974
right, do you have any other computers? try making a liveusb with a distro that already has drivers and see what you can do. Just an idea, i really dont know

Wich terminal should I use. wich one is easy configurable

>>60672681
bash is the default and more standardised. Fish is decently easy to use. Dash is dead i think. I use bash because of work

>>60672721
Oh crap I meant terminal emulator my bad. I use bash too personally

>>60672800
could have been my mistake too since its technically a shell. I use gnome terminal but its not amazing or anything. termite is interesting because its sort of like vim, though why not just use vim then.

Post lewd commands.
man cp

>>60672878
MODS

>>60672878

Are code tags not working?

>>60672890
>Hecant code tag

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>>60671630
What is linux-libre?

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Just found this http://appimage.org/

The trick to make any app portable is to bind it with its own virtual file system (like making a disk image). Truly great.

With this, the package manager will only be used for maintaining the core system while your will be in total control of your applications.

The year of linux on desktop will finally come, after all.

(why there are again two threads?)

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>>60672955

-> >>60659514

>>60672929
in that case just rename it the_DaRk prsents : Hurd2.4.12-rc3 reloaaded

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>>60672955
>they don't even use a picture of the new XPS 13 DE
Dead in the water.

>>60672972
please, don't say that. appimage is of utter importance and has been praised by linux donalds himself

>>60672955
>>60672968
lmao, the shills are real

>>60672874
its light and minimal wich I kinda like but I am not really a vi/vim user. thanks for the suggestion though

>>60672955
>it's another flatpack snappy appimage crap
why dont open source fags understand the concept of NOT having 100 times the same libs on their disk?

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>>60672955
>if I post a cute anime picture, they will think that I'm one of them

>>60672996

Old thread lost posters.

Any insight into why xrandr creates a square that my monitors don't fill? For example, I could drag a gimp toolbar window in between my monitors and have it get lost if I let go of my mouse.

are there any must have security apps for linux

>>60673106
Common.Sense.2017.Unltimate.Installer.msi

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>>60673106
Pardon me for one moment. What you are calling Linux is actually GNU/Linux, or as I have nicknamed it, GNU plus Linux. Linux isn't an operating system by itself, but it is just another part of the GNU system, which has been extended in functionality via various GNU components (including GNU's shell utilities and corelibs) which only then fit the definition of a complete operating system as outlined by POSIX.

There are many people today who are running the GNU operating system without even being aware of it. Through a strange turn of events, a misnomer has emerged where people refer to a widely used version of the GNU system as "Linux", unaware that the proper name for the system they run is the GNU operating system.

Now while they are in fact using Linux, it is only one component of the system that they run. Linux is used as the kernel: the part of an operating system which distributes a machine's resources to other programs which request them. While this functionality is essential for the successful functioning of a system, it cannot function on its own, it needs an operating system within which it can carry out its functions. Linux is commonly paired with the GNU operating system: the entirety of the system is GNU with the addition of Linux, or GNU/Linux. Every single "Linux Distribution" is actually a distribution of GNU/Linux.

>>60673106
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/security

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>>60673135

>>60673041
fair enough, why do you want a different TE? or are you setting up a custom distro?

>>60673184
damn someone wrote that as joke
what a commitment

>>60673184
i love how he deleted this after realising rms would never have a google account

Whats the best file system to use? How do i set up encryption on a new disk? will it mean ill need to put in 2 encryption passwords on boot?

>>60673225
setting up a distro currently seeing what I like im kinda new to linux

>>60669876
>>60669905
So your dad was a drinker, eh?

>>60672955
let's waste all the disk space

>>60673279
if your new and want to customise start on debian net install since the core system is set up and doesnt require compiling and stuffing around with.

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>>60673241
Linus never posted this.

>>60673184
>newfags still fall for this meme
Both accounts were 4chan troll accounts.

Original post: https://plus.google.com/+AlexKoloskov/posts/UUaeh9t9uPV

Pic related.

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>>60673184

>It is possible to tighten the security so much as to make your system unusable.
what did the arch wiki mean by this

>>60673387
The most secure system is no system.

>>60655099
Installed last week with KDE plasma. KDE took me 2s to compile on a quad core an the Kernel 15 minutes

>>60673400
vaporware strikes again

>>60673386
>you proprietary slave
L0L

To anyone that uses kvm. How the fuck do I get the release short to work after installing the space-agent?

What movies should i download?

>>60673387
well honey, systems have bugs, unknown bugs to be discovered, someone may already have and since he's clever, he didn't publish the vul

to make your system safe against these attacks, you need to disconnect yourself from the web

then there are local attacks to circumvent logins, so to be secure, dont use an operating system

tl;dr important data belongs into your brain

>>60673711
Revolution OS

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>>60673711
>Alternative Freedom (2006)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-k7ftaUw2c

>Revolution OS (2001) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0308808/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eluzi70O-P4

>Richard Stallman: What Stands in the Way of Digital Freedom? (SIGEF, 2014, Geneva, Switzerland)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8mOIAY_Jmw

>Richard Stallman: Snowden leak a chance for privacy, time to fight Big Brother
https://img.rt.com/files/episode/1f/c2/d0/00/sophieco_1507.mp4

>Richard Stallman, Speech for Curitiba Event 2003
https://audio-video.gnu.org/video/richard_stallman-speech-for-curitiba-event-2003_theora_video.ogg

>Richard Stallman: Welcome to Software Freedom Day (2011) - A short (8 minutes) introdution to Free Software
https://audio-video.gnu.org/video/stallman-software-freedom-day.ogv

>Richard Stallman: A Free Digital Society (Karlsruhe, Germany, Jul 10, 2015)
https://audio-video.gnu.org/video/2015-07-10--rms--a-free-digital-society--720p.webm

>Richard Stallman announcing the release of the GPLv3 and giving an overview of the major changes at the FSF's Boston office on June 29, 2007
http://gplv3.fsf.org/static/release/rms_gplv3_launch_high_quality.ogg

>Richard Stallman, interviewed by Matthias Schüssler, in Zurich on February, 9th, of 2016
https://b2aeaa58a57a200320db-8b65b95250e902c437b256b5abf3eac7.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/media_entries/7910/Richard_Stallman_in_Zurich_Full-HD-Version-fkkDvKGcNSo.webm

>Richard Stallman: Software for Development: Is Free/Open Source Software the Answer?, WSIS, Tunis, 2005
https://audio-video.gnu.org/video/2005-11-18--rms--tunis--wsis.webm

>Richard Stallman: Welcome to Software Freedom Day (FSF office, Boston, Iran event), 2012
https://audio-video.gnu.org/video/stallman-software-freedom-day.ogv

>Richard Stallman: Free Software in Your Computer and in the Net (Hamburg, Germany), 2014
https://audio-video.gnu.org/video/2014-12-29--rms--freedom-in-your-computer-and-in-the-net.webm

When this thread is over, can we reuse this one: >>60672804 ? Can't delete it anymore.

>>60673748
saved

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Someone pls share a nice GNU/Linux related 1337 hack the planet playlist. Writing some shell script and outta tunes.

>>60673772
no that one will be gone when this one ends
look before posting a thread next time
dw I made this mistake too when I was new

>>60673877
>when I was new
1 day ago?

>>60673877
Your posting right now in a thread that was created while another one already existed. Where is your god now?

>>60673817
not a playlist but a video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoUWHfh733Y

Can I save games on a external usb harddrive and run them from there while it is connected?

>>60673936
probably calling some random people on the street a "nigger" or working on his os to talk to god

>>60673817
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDCv121bM0k

>>60674131
edit your PATH and

/etc/ld.so.conf

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>>60655017
>Linux
>jewbook shit emots.
pick damn one

>>60672874
>>60672800
it is both of your mistakes
>terminal emulator
>shell
>command line
>tty
>console
>terminal
all different things
learn the difference

>>60674217
>/etc/ld.so.conf
or

LD_LIBRARY_PATH

>>60673106
Firejail, firewalld

>>60673817
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMCsv-zj56s

>>60674131
>external usb harddrive
I wouldn't do that
use an external SSD

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>>60673817
http://retrowave.ru/

>>60674161
>>60673877
kill yourself

>>60674222
i know it was a combo, i even said

Whats the best distro for a kpop fan?

>>60674329
Trisquel

>>60674329
Red Star OS

How do i set up a live usb on gnu/linux? unetbootin has issues and i dont want to do the manual way because it takes too long

>>60655027
What is the point of NFS? Why not sshfs?

>>60655017
Which Bash distribution are you using?

>>60674382
GNU

>>60674382
there is only one distribution of bash

>>60674436
False, there are many of them.
Trisquel, Guix, Debian, Arch, Gentoo, etc

>>60674446
those are distributions of GNU (with Linux added)

>>60674459
These are Bash distributions.

>>60674466
bash comes in one and only one distribution
you can download it from the gnu project website
GNU (with Linux added) is distributed differently and with different things added

>>60674479
Holy shit you are retarded.

>GNU comes in one and only one distribution, you can download it from the gnu project website
>Linux comes in one and only one distribution you can download it from the linux project website

>>60674616
yep, pure gnu only has one distro; gnu. theres debian + gnu which adds some stuff to it

TIL: Linux for for nerds failed at life, but the shell gives them back at least some control about an imaginary life.

>>60674691
true, but you're a nerd that failed at life who struggles with a simple shell too, making you worse than them.

>>60674691
It'd just like to interject for a moment.
There is no Linux shell; Linux is a kernel; a component of the GNU/Linux operating system, started by Richard Stallman in 1983.

>>60674710
best REKT today

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>>60674691
People said I should accept the world. Bullshit! I don't accept the world.

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Install Source Mage GNU+Linux.

>>60674382
i typically use tcsh, even if it is a bit hard to configure. love it tho

>>60674774
my guest distro of choice
actually, the package manager being bash is fucking amazing

why don't other distros write such cool package managers?

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>>60674803
they're not as versed in the arcane arts

>>60674803
>he package manager being bash is fucking amazing
how does that work?

>>60674803
Same here, current fav VM distros:
GuixSD and Source Mage. Check out guix my man.

>>60674803
I like how they format the source code. That centered shit is so beautiful.

>>60674854
just leaving this here; formats whatever you pipe into it centered at a defined column width

bash --version | awk '{ l=length(); s=int((79-l)/2); printf "%"(s+l)"s\n", $0 }'

>>60674868
noice, aliased

>>60674899
Aliases are cool when you want to have, for example, --color=always as default for some programs, but anything beyond that, especially when it becomes complex, should be a function.

>>60674932
and anything beyond that should be a indipendent shell script

learned that too late when my bashrc already counted 1000 lines and started playing around with other shells

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Gaiz, how do I do this:
>take pic with lagdroid botnet phone
>transfer pic to Debian box as fast as possible for high speed shiposting
I tried sshfs and scp but shit refuses to work on my POS phone.

>>60675041
just transfer it via mtp
or look into kde connect

>>60675041
why not use gentoo?

>>60675041
drop your dumbphone in the nearest dumpster
that'll solve some of your problems

>>60675180
Because it's a work computer :^)

>>60675285
Alright kid, you fit in, you can stop now.

>>60675312
>using the smile with a carrot noose

>>60675321
It's a snowman, silly

>>60675285
Top contribution to the friendly thread.

>>60675285
dumbphones masterrace
enjoy being spied on

hey what is a good file manager without ads that costs less than one dollar and where i can be relatively sure that the project wont get abandoned and minor bugs stay forever or it will stop running on my gnu plus linux system

actual question: why is there no gnu/linux distribution for smart phones?

NEW THREAD

>>60672804
>>60672804
>>60672804

>>60675528
limit is 310 retard

>>60675526
>why is there no gnu/linux distribution for smart phones?
smart phones are listening devices, buy a dumbphone

>>60675539
I was just raising awareness about the new thread while pretending to be retarded
don't mind me

Hi FLG,

I have linux Mint 18 installed on my computer.
I have an android phone.
I want to install android apps onto my android phone from linux mint.

Can I do this and if so, how?

Thanks.

What do?
No matter if I install from extra or aur, eventually I get segfaults

$ amule
 2017-05-31 09:25:54: Initialising aMule 2.3.2 compiled with wxGTK2 v3.0.3 and Boost 1.63 (Snapshot: rev. g22f7128a0+)
 2017-05-31 09:25:54: Checking if there is an instance already running...
 2017-05-31 09:25:54: No other instances are running.
 2017-05-31 09:25:54: ListenSocket: Ok.
 2017-05-31 09:25:54: Loading temp files from /home/xyz/.aMule/Temp.
 2017-05-31 09:25:54: Loading PartFile 1 of 90
...
 2017-05-31 09:25:54: Loading PartFile 90 of 90
 2017-05-31 09:25:54: All PartFiles Loaded.
 2017-05-31 09:25:54: Adding file /home/xyz/.aMule/Temp/059.part.met to shares
 ...
 2017-05-31 09:25:54: Adding file /home/xyz/.aMule/Temp/025.part.met to shares
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Currently using

aur/amule-dlp-git

We need more /fglt/ threads, in fact, /g/ would be a better place when all threads were /fglt/ threads. What are the alternatives?
>%s BTFO
>%s cucks on suicide watch
>he fell for the %s meme
>%s will never look this good
>post ur speccy
>post ur homoscreen
>why didn't you upgrade to win10?
>should I buy
>I just bought
>check my build

>>60675620
>arch
found your problem
install a distro for adults

>>60675665
Whatevs, this is my messing around HDD.
What distro do you recommend then?

>>60675689
gentoo gnu/linux

>>60675620
Read the core dump...

>Try to take a screenshot
>The system freezes
At least I know the system's limits now.
Can't have 6 tabs, a music player and a game open at once.

>>60675872
Use a realtime kernel

Is there a gui way to set up a new hardss drive?

>>60675925
gparted

>>60675937
sweet, can it handle encrypting the drive?

>>60675872
when my system freezes it's usually the fault of nouveau

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Who uses appimage here?

http://appimage.org/

>>60675963
I don't know what a nouveau is

>>60676079
BLOAAAAAT

>>60676079
kill yourself

>>60676079
bloat

>>60676079
>linus torvalds
who?

>>60676105
>nouveau
it's a slang for "your faggot"

>>60676125
techblogger

Running archlinux with kde plasma 5 I get this message on start up.

0.235138
platform wdat_wdt: failed to claim resource 4: [io 0x0073-0x0074]
0.235148
ACPI: watchdog: device creation failed -16

I have no idea what it means.
How badly did I screw up my installation?

>>60676079
Please stop shilling that crap. Thank you.

>>60676138
>using archlinux
>got a problem
that's normal

>>60676079
will die just like snappy/flatpack/etc.
also someone tell linus to read a book about unix

>>60676079
so this is "portable .exe appz" for linux?
how is this different than running a portable appz app in wine?

new thread
>>60672804
>>60672804

>>60676206
This is just very cool.

>>60676221
still 13 post too early

>>60676238
3 remain, 2 now

it's native. the application is bound with its own virtual file system, the image, which contains all the required dependencies.

>>60676298
BLOAT

>>60676206

>>60676298 for >>60676206

>>60676125
He contributed a few lines of code to the GNU OS and now he thinks he owns the damn thing.

>>60676298
>which contains all the required dependencies.

With all due respect, that's the literal definition of bloat.

Remember when you laughed at windows users for having 20 different versions of Visual C runtime installed? This is at this level.

>>60676342
yes but it does works. all bloat is not unacceptable

>>60676370
ANY BLOAT is unacceptable.

This is massive bloat on a global scale.

Why would i want a virtual filesystem with god knows how many unnecessary deps when i already have a system full of those same deps?


"I include these 50 deps because i couldnt get the program working until i blindly put all these deps in this filrsystem,but it works now"
"package size 15gb"

>>60676342
>Remember when you laughed at windows users for having 20 different versions of Visual C runtime installed? This is at this level.
isn't it more like having 20 times the same version of the Visual C runtime installed?

>>60676396
because IT DOES WORK

You plug your usb key and you can start to use your applications in the instant. you want your friend to try X? you just send him the appimage. This is great.

if you don't like it, then don't use it.

>>60676262
310

>>60676527
>if you don't like it, then don't use it.
Thats what was said with systemd, and look where we are with that
This is horrible fucking idea,if you want to use X you install it with your package manager and use it

>>60676527
you do know that you can install your Arch GNU/Linux on usb, right?

>>60676326
not even a meme

>As of 2006, approximately two percent of the Linux kernel was written by Torvalds himself [...] he stated in 2012 that his own personal contribution is now mostly merging code written by others, with little programming.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds#Authority_and_trademark

>still stuck with a GTX750 to wait for Vega
>suddenly it's officially confirmed RX Vega will not be out until August at its earliest
I ain't fucking wait and decide to buy a 1080 11Gbps version. I now have the BLOB driver installed, so should I uninstall the driver, install the new card and then reinstall the driver, or can I just pull the old card out and just plug in the 1080 and play?

>>60676566
>Thats what was said with systemd, and look where we are with that
if systemd has been massively adopted despite breaking a lot of old stuffs, maybe it's because people actually want it? because it's actually great? if systemd was bad, no one would be using it.

>>60676595
2% should be around 400 000 lines of code, this is quite impressive to be honest.

>>60676698
750 isnt end of life,it runs on the latest nvidia blob,as does teh 1080.Just plug it in and go

I'm using Arch and during my install I'd accidently set the keyboard to US. To revert this when logging in (and to mount my other hard drive), I wrote the following to do so in Python.

import subprocess
subprocess.call(['setxkbmap','gb'])
subprocess.call(['sudo','mount','/dev/sdc1', '/mnt'])

I know that this works as the disk successfully mounts and I am able to access the files; however the keyboard layout stays as US and does not change. Would there be a better way of doing this?

>>60676755
Change your locale/keyboard to the one you want? hoiy shit nigga

>>60676774
I know how to do that manually but I wrote it so it would do so on startup. How would I go about changing it permanently?

>>60676804
Read the arch wiki entry pertaining to keyboard layouts.
Also, use fucking stab/udev to mount your drive...
for shame

>>60676701
>this is quite impressive
not really

>>60677677
k. he also wrote git. he also had to maitains both linux and git. he still managed to wrote 400 000k on linux. please, now, i would really like you to show what you have done.