INTEL, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

DELID DIS!!!

>>60651866
>starting at the low low price of 7899.99 :^)

Intel plans for enthusiasts to crack their dies and have to buy another chip to try again.

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IT'S NOT FAIR

>>60651866

what's this significance of non-soldered?

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someone put the intel logo on this

>>60651906

Housefires when OCed unless you are brave enough to delid it

Did they run out of toothpaste to put under the heat shield?

>unsoldered HEDT lineup
>CPUs pushing 140W TDP

Jesus. Intel is really revving up that single-socket holocaust encore.

>>60651923
>$2399 is a fair price
>It could have been much more expensive goyim had I used proper lidding and paste I would have charged you 400 dollars more!
>be thankful

JEW JIZZ CONFIRMED

>>60651866
What a bunch of fucking jews

>>60651906
You can de-lid for more overclocking. Remove cpu heatsink. Put some high end thermal paste. Cover it back up. Gets an average of 10-12 degrees Celsius cooler.

>>60651932
I read the report about the cracking.
All they did was try and reduce the gold thickness.
Nothing about trying a new solder or heat regulation to fix the issue. That totally wasn't cause by skimping on gold in the first place.
Don't think too hard about why the pins went from the chips either.

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>>60651907
I tried

>>60651968
needs the i9 logo and itd be perfect

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>>60651866
>not soldered

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>>60651907
It's the best I got

>>60652053
PUT i9 ON THIS YES THIS IS PERFECT

>>60652053
Not anon, but that's perfect.

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>>60651961
>Reduced the gold
>Jewtel
OY VEY!

>>60651866
>AMD comes out with better IPC
>Intel: MOAR COARS

>>60651866
>not soldered
>$3000 per core

abused intelshills will still buy it

>>60652081

MOAR COARS AND TOOTHPASTE

>>60652075
I closed Photoshop without saving the PSD file, but I'll see if I can recreate it, just for you

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>>60652006
eh

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>>60652053
ur doing gods work anon

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>>60651866
This cannot be right, x99 have all been soldered.
Also, rumours were that even 4c kaby-x is getting soldered.

>>60652094
Doing god's work, my man.
>>60652101
I like this too.

>>60652051
>even ahmed was smart enough to solder his cpu
fucking jews, this is why muslims are superior

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>>60651866
>MOAR COARZ!
>MOAR BINGBUS!
>MOAR NIGGAHURTZ!
>MOAR JIGGAWATZ!
>MOAR TDP!
>MOAR JIZZTIM!

HAHAHAHAHAHHA INTEL HAS GONE FULL RETARD!

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Dam, they just don't give a fuck anymore.

It's been awhile since Intel had a true housefire like netburst.

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>>60651939
>DELID DIS
>On a $1,700 CPU
>And risk writing it off
>And lose your warranty
Gas yourself.

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>>60651866
NOOOO

Linus Shilltips will advise delidding, the break his sample on camera.

wtf does not soldered mean??

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>>60651866
>AMD SUPERDOZER KIWIFIJILAND CONFIRMED
>999 CORES (NOT SOLDERED)
>POO IN LOO SAYS "RUNS AS HOT AS THE HOTTEST INDIAN CURRY"

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>>60651907
>>60651968
>>60652053
>>60652101
gotta really sell it

>>60652160
Jew jizz between the die and IHS

>>60651939
Thing is you shouldn't have to. Soldered is often no more than 1-2c warmer than cooling via direct die contact. Where as you have to physically risk destruction of thoes intel chips to replace the dog shit tier thermal paste they're using.

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>>60652075
>>60652078
>>60652108
>>60652116
When the meme so supreme you let out a scream

>>60652183

Bravo! Fermi is back, in CPU form!

>>60652183
Bravo, anon! Saved!

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>>60652166
Your tears are DELICIOUS :^)

>>60652160
means cucked :o)

>>60652183
AHA HEEEESS DONE IT
HES DONE IT
>HES DONE IT
HES DONE IT
>HES DONE IT
HES DONE IT
>HES DONE IT
HES DONE IT
>HES DONE IT

Intel and Nvidia are greedy jews, AMD is poo poo and run by a women.
Who is going to save us?

>>60652160
Rather than using solder as the heat transference material between the die and the Integrated Heat Spreader on the CPU, Intel has, in recent years, use a low-quality thermal compound instead. The result of this is higher temperatures at lower clocks than would happen if it had been soldered.

As such, the process of 'delidding' made its first major appearance with the Ivy Bridge processor line, and basically had people carving or knocking the IHS off the top of the processor and manually replacing the shitty thermal compound with something better like a liquid metal thermal solution.

It voids warranty, but it does result in drastically reduced temperatures, even on air.

>>60652255
VIA

>>60651866
Pretending to make new CPU's while other tech to actually make new CPU's catches up.

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>>60651866
Intel truly can't be this stupid, can they? I refuse to believe they'd do something this retarded.

>>60652255
OAO Aнгcтpeм

best semiconductor in east europe, tovarisch

no botnet))))

OH MY GOD JC

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>>60652255
:^)

>>60652267

why the heck would they do that

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>>60652474

>>60652474
Because the thermal compound was much cheaper than the solder. Or maybe not a LOT cheaper on a CPU by CPU basis, but considering how many they pump out, the savings added up

>>60652509
>>60652483

That's nuts man. But I guess it sorta makes sense when the rest of the chip is made out of sand and thin traces of copper

>>60652509
It doesn't even make any sense as a cost cutting measure. They hardly sell many HEDT CPUs as it is.

Why can't Intel at least use decent quality Jew-jizz?

>>60652929
See
>>60652483

>>60651866
>Not soldered
Thermonuclear fireball much?

>>60652283
I want ruskies to go back

Finally found the source on this shit, it does not appear they have any legitimate source linked. X99 CPUs were all soldered. I'm taking this one as rumormill bullshit. https://translate.google.com/translate?tl=en-us&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcgameshardware.de%2FSkylake-Codename-259478%2FNews%2FBis-zu-18-Kerne-bestaetigt-und-nicht-verloetet-1228994%2F

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>>60651866
>fuckhuge 18 cores
>toothpasted
We're going to get glassed, gentlemen.

>>60652171
This was passed over?

lmao, thread fulla jews

>be me
>buy into intel jew shit
What is the best alternative

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>>60652195

what the fuck is this thread even about

am i supposed to be sad that intel has an 18-core chip?

>>60653113
>HEDT
>With Jew-jizz instead of proper solder

>>60653113
But I don't want my town to burn down because of some poorly-cooled Intelbomb, Anon.

>>60653113
Intel is cheaping out on the thermal material for a chip that is likely going to cost several thousand dollars.

>>60652267
And it was never necessary to do so. Delidding, high-end thermal paste, high-end coolers: it's all a meme.

>>60653179
It's not a meme if you see significant temperature drops, which almost every single person who has delidded their processors successfully has.

I do not know what to say...

Why does the tech world suck now? Filled with Jews and fucking "Diversity" programs. Got experience and know your shit? TOO FUCKING BAD! We will hire pajeet and this cunt who colors her hair in a fucking different color.

This is what you get for promoting diversity,

How long before Krzanich has to step down?

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>TDP less than a 150w light bulb
>OMGGG HOUSE FIRESSS INTEL IS KA-RAZYYY

>>60653202
You've never changed a bulb, have you.

>>60653190
There is no good reason to try to lower your temperature if you're not out of the specifications for that CPU. You won't see any significant gains in performance or electricity savings. It's 99% placebo.
>inb4 "it heats up my room" excuse
It doesn't.

>>60653200
We've stopped advancing. Companies have finally come to the conclusion that they make more money with teeny tiny incremental improvements year on year rather than innovating and improving user experience. It's all about the monaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

>>60653223
Have you ever installed a cooling fan for a desk lamp?

>>60653229
Lower temperatures mean more thermal overclocking room. While this isn't relevant if you don't plan to overclock, if you're buying a K chip and a Z or X motherboard, why AREN'T you overclocking?

>>60653202
>Intel Core i9
>160W TDP
>Certified Intel Jew-jizz TIM
>Not a house fire

>>60653246
I have. I'm in Australia. So I try to fuck off the extra heat from my rooms as fast as possible.

>>60652195
>that fucking feel when 1.7% wood screws was 8 fucking years ago

>>60653258
As I said, as long as you are not outside of the specified range of temperatures for the CPU. Usually overclocked CPUs will crap out for a non-thermal reason before you reach this limit.

Most people are far too nervous about their CPU temps and think if they aren't constantly at least 20 degrees under the limit they're running too hot. It's needless worry. The "safe zone" is called that for a reason.

>>60653321
>>60653229
> what is thermal throttling

>>60653329
Something that doesn't happen when you're in the operating range. Or even pretty far past it.

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>>60653347

>>60653347
> thermal throttling doesn't happen when you go far past operating temperatures
Thanks for invalidating everything you say.

>>60653376
You may be retarded.
> using a MacBook as reference for anything technologically related ever
Yeah, you're stupid. Everyon knows it's a toddler toy.

>>60653059
That picture is innocent aryan bombing victims in Dresden, misrepresented as holocast victims by those dirty kikes. Sorry let me try again. Those are bombing victims in Dresden, misrepresented by holocaust deniers as a fraudulent piece of proof of the holocast.

Either way that pic is not suitable for a meme about dirty Intel kikes, as it is in fact not kikes.

>>60653376
It's going outside the safe range. Do you have problems with the English language?

>>60653321
Not that I think the jizz TIM rumor is true or not, but you realize Intel's shiny new Turboboost 3.0 on two cores at once won't function if it can't go over the TDP limit, right?

>>60653279

Feels old man.

>>60653389
Well, I'm wasn't going to sit here and tell people they'll be just fine with their CPU running ten degrees hotter than it is specified for, but yeah if you want to press me you can usually get away with it. It's case by case. But if you stay in the safe zone you'll never see throttling.

>>60653425
>101c at 0.8Ghz is acceptable on stock cooling to inteldrones.
You're a low effort troll.

>>60653347
>>60653321
>>60653229
you're one of those "its a feature" guys huh

>>60652283
>no botnet
Sure thing Ivan

>>60651866
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, INTEL! WE WERE SUPPOSED TO WIN!

>>60653425
No, but you clearly have problems with your brain.

>AMD markets some EPYC parts to workstation users
>Intel can't hope to compete on any front
All it would take.

>>60652474
because the vast majority of people buy prebuild pcs and dont bother overclocking cpus/gpus.

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I know what I'm getting now....

>>60652081
Skylake has better IPC than Ryzen and the new chips are Skylake-X

>>60654452
That is a fuckhuge socket. But with a possible 64 lanes and 4 or 8 memory channels (still need details on that), it has to be.

>>60654452
DELID THIS

>>60654452
cancer?

>>60654452

Jesus christ that socket is huge.

>/g/ autismos spend a month trying to find the best thermal compound application over such a large surface area.

>>60654452
Price for that board

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>>60654452
They are actually selling this to gaymurs after spending years telling them that 4 cores is enough for everyone?

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>>60654452
Heres more. Looks like Kranzich butt might get a bit red. OEMs are playing :)

Good to see competition again.

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>>60653408
>That picture is innocent aryan bombing victims in Dresden
Fuck you Hans. Die slow, disgusting hunnic cumstain.

>>60652179
alright IDF we get it

>>60652089
*updoots*

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>>60654452
Wew
At a glance I was sure that was a micro atx board, going by proportions
That fucking socket is HUEG

>>60654452
>>60654667
That is a pretty big socket.

>>60651883
Underrated post.

>>60654908
4 CPU

>>60651924
It's 160W for 12+ cores anon

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>>60654501
>>60654659
that's X399, threadrippers platform, not X299 (Skylake-X) on pic related

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So, can you fry eggs on it?

>>60654568
there are 2 separate dies in that thing, so basically you need to know where they are and what way they are facing basically

>>60655051
>X299
>X399
what were they thinking?

>illuminated RAM slots
what were they thinking?

>>60655098
Well, one is the name of the chipset

the other is catering to people who care about how a motherboard looks

>>60652255
We need open source hardware TODAY

When do the NDAs expire on the new intel/AMD cpus?

>>60655263
I don't think we're even close to the reviewers getting the hardware for testing, threadripper is probably early Q3 and SKL-X late Q3/early Q4

>>60655299
Intel one just ended now it seems, pricing and clock speeds are out.

>>60655309
no anon, the NDA is for reviews and benchmarks, not prices and specs

18 core is 3.3ghz base 4.5ghz max turbo, $2000 price but isn't being launched with the others, comes later. Must have been an emergency product in response to threadripper.

>>60655333
They have NDAs for both usually.

>>60653493
It's not stock cooling. It's Apple's retarded design.

holy shit this is retarded

>>60655341
>175Watt
>Toothpaste

turbo is going to be 3.5 if you are lucky.

>http://www.anandtech.com/show/11464/intel-announces-skylakex-bringing-18core-hcc-silicon-to-consumers-for-1999
kek, what the fuck are they thinking?

>>60655341
kek, keep deluding yourself, not even their 12 core has those clockspeeds and if the 18 core has these clocks, it"ll have 200W tdp

>>60655397
So this is extreme line-up?
for enthusiast overclockers and alike, and they put toothpaste on the most expensive one?

Toothpaste?

>>60655417
yes, because they need those extra 15 cents of profit

>>60655397
6 core and 8 core are priced surprisingly low considering it's a huge die.

Still not competitive with Ryzen pricing, but closer than expected.

>>60653202
you mean those things which heat up to the point of glowing bright enough to illuminate a room and have to be kept inside a vacuum to not burn away?

>>60655397
>intel is literally selling at a loss to be able to compete with amd
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>60655447
6 core didn't change much, 8 core is a nice price drop, 10 core is retarded, and 12 core even more so.

>>60655421
instead of soldering their dies to the heart spreader Intel just puts paste in between.

>>60655417
>So this is extreme line-up?
>for enthusiast overclockers and alike, and they put toothpaste on the most expensive one?
They're just crippling them to try and make people buy (((xeons))). It looks like they made these up in the last few weeks out of desperation, they will probably come out months later and always be out of stock. Review sites will be sent samples just to try and retain intel being able to claim to having the fastest consumer CPU.

>>60651939

they have thermal paste inside?

>>60655491
no, it is jew jizz.

>>60655491
Yeah, so they run twice as cool.
/g/enetic failures think metal on metal is somehow GOOD for heat transfer.

Nice to know that the Jews are making their own ovens this time

>>60655357
So cooling solution that is not a long time used design that increases temps +5-15c is bad.
But when intel does it via using cheep thermal paste instead of solder, it's a good thing?

Jesus christ intelfags are retarded.

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>12k Gaming

>>60653229
When CPU's run hot, they use more power, and have lower lifespans.

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>up to 10% faster multi thread i9-7900x vs i7-6950x
>up to 15% faster single thread i9-7900x vs i7-6950x
10% higher base clock
12.5% higher Turbo 3.0

So no IPC improvement?

>>60655903
did you really think that there would be any improvements on IPC? we won't see anything like that until intel can't get away with increasing tdp, and that's a long time from now, since there's 2 cpu power connectors on skylake-X motherboards

>>60654452
Is that LGA? I thought AMD only used PGA or whatever it's called.

>>60651906

Some autists lose their shit over the 2-3 degrees lower temps from an alternative, more expensive assembly process.

Literally a non-issue.

>>60655683
>12k gaming
In what fucking world is 12k gaming viable

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>>60655903
>>60655947
https://newsroom.intel.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2017/05/Intel-Core-X-series-Fact-Sheet.pdf

Could be an IPC increase.

>>60655973
amd chose LGA for those 4000 pin monsters because safety, that's a lot of pins to put on the cpu

>>60655903
>>up to 10% faster multi thread i9-7900x vs i7-6950x
>>up to 15% faster single thread i9-7900x vs i7-6950x
So, it matches the 1800x then?

>>60655980

WHO WILL EVER NEED MORE THAN 640K INTERNAL MEMORY?!?

8GB HDDS WILL NEVER EVER BE COMMERCIALLY VIABLE!!!

>>60655990
those clocks are probably wrong

>>60655990
But also
>2666Mhz DDR
>2133Mhz DDR
That probably makes up some of the difference. And then of course we know Skylake is about 3-4% faster per click than Broadwell. Add some cherry picking then 15% isn't unreasonable at all.

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>>60655990
there we go

Let me get this straight.

>Intel
>More cores
>Higher IPC
>Higher price
>Fewer PCI-E lanes
>Fewer USB ports, Sata ports etc.
>Thermal paste IHS

>AMD
>Less cores
>Lower IPC
>Lower price
>More PCI-E lanes
>More USB ports, Sata ports etc.
>Soldered IHS

Also, the IHS on the Threadripper is fuckhuge so it's going to transfer heat much better than the Skylake-X IHS.

>>60656030
do you really think intel's 18 cores with shitty clockspeeds can compete with amd's 16 cores at 3.5GHz?

>>60656030
Pretty sure they're about equal for IPC. AMD is also less power hungry.

>>60656048
I'm confident that the most expensive Threadripper will also have shitty clockspeeds so it all evens out.

The most interesting thing is price. If AMD can release a 10-core Threadripper for $799 or around there that would be amazing.

>>60656027
>8 cores
>140w TDP

BWHAHHAAAHA HOLY SHIT
HOW THE FUCK CAN INTEL BE SO BAD AT THIS SHIT?
AMD DON'T EVEN MANAGE 100W TDP FROM 8 CORES

>>60656057
threadripper has 2 separate dies and is using B2 stepping chips, these two things mean that they can dissipate heat a lot better and have lower voltages than the 1800X at similar clocks respectively

>>60656090
Pretty sure Threadripper has 4 separate dies and not 2 under the IHS, right?

>>60655990
From the sounds of it, it better tunes voltage and frequency so it's probably getting better all-core clocks and better getting a heavily loaded core to that Max clock even when light load is on others.

>>60656101
threadripper has 2, Epyc (naples) has 4

each die has 8 cores,which are disabled accordingly (see r5 series)

>>60654667
>>60654452
where are you getting these?

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>>60653146
>new intel line up of HEDT cpu's
>several thousand dollars a piece
>possible 180w on the 18 core
>cutting corners on cooling

>>60656048

Since we have yet to see any AMD CPU compete with Intel, yes I do.

>>60656111
I see.

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/intel_s_skylake-x_and_kaby_lake-x_cpus_will_not_be_soldered/1

INTEL HOUSEFIRES ON SUICIDE WATCH

DELID THIS

>>60656027
Those prices aren't unreasonable at all. 600$ for an octocore with quad channel support and high clocks. It's a much better 6900k for half the price.

Problem is that it will probably be $250 for a basic board and $500 for a good one

>>60656027
>that moneygrab

shit probably isn't even better than Ryzen they'll just do their usual jewry and spam their competitor CPU with underclocked shill tests and manipulate their lackey tech journalism sites with pro intel propaganda, they are just using the Ryzen launch as an opportunity to make more money on some half baked moar corez part

>>60656072
Because AMD can't do AVX2 instructions without Rypoo completely shitting itself.

AMD does average power draw, Intel does worse case scenario. In real world, the two are basically the same, until Rypoo craps itself because it can't do AVX2 instructions without being literally half as fast as Intel CPUs.

>>60656152
>AMD does average power draw, Intel does worse case scenario
You don't know what TDP is at all you fucking monkey, holy shit never post on this board again.

>>60656152
Are there any programs in editing that even uses AVX?

>>60655683
>>60655980
"""12K""" is a really retarded way of them calling a three-wide setup of 4K displays, it's just barely doable with current hardware.

>>60656027
>Turbo Boost
>Turbo Boost Max

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>>60652297
A

>>60656166
Nothing uses AVX in any form except niche scientific number crunching applications that few parole care about. Chances are that if you need fast AVX, your company will buy you what you need.

So AMD won?

>>60656152
Don't lie, retard.

Intel does tdp at base clocks. And it's the one that goes by average.

>>60656183
*few people

>>60652080
1000g = 40000 usd for gold

Do they use 1g per processor?

Ok so Intel is dead to me. Can anybody please tell me all the flaws of Ryzen so I know what to expect with Threadripper?

I heard Ryzen can't use high speed DDR4 like Intel can, but what else is wrong with Ryzen right now? No shitposting.

>>60656224
ryzen not being able to use high speed ram was a problem at launch, they released a patch for ryzen a few days ago that enables it to support up to 4000MHz RAM

>>60656233
Except it can't and is still effectively limited to 3200MHz.

>>60656224
>I heard Ryzen can't use high speed DDR4 like Intel can
it isn't the case now. at the launch it was just like you said.
>what else is wrong with Ryzen right now
doesn't clock high over 4 ghz. that's it.

>>60656248
there are a lot of people that go over 3600mhz already.

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>>60656233

>Running DDR4 above 2300 MHz

>>60656265
Proof?

>>60656266
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ-JCwgbxGI

It actually makes a difference

>>60656266
>his cpu doesn't benefit from faster ram
kek

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>>60656248

>>60656224
X99 STILL struggles with DDR4 so

>>60656334
Ok? X99 is old and busted so what's your point?

>>60656362
>matured platform still can't get DDR4 overclocking right
>it's only an issue when AMD do it on a brand new platform
lol ok

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>>60656277

>>60654771
>Hitler never wanted to bomb warsaw but if your enemy does not capitulate after total defeat and doesn't respond to any peace offer....what else can you

>Rotterdam, Should never have happened but the message that told the germans that NL would sign defeat came one day to late.

>Churchill starts bombing german cities without any tactical objective to get a reaction out of Hitler and show the world what a evil leader he is

>Hitler keeps his cool for 3 months and continuously asks britain to stop the bombing. Finally loses his temper and starts bombing london

>le harris, They sowed wind so they should pay for it with more innocent lives:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

>>60651866
should i sell my skylake and by Ryzen?

>>60656429
what do you do/want to do on your computer?

>Intel have to start selling their own AIO liquid cooler to tame their housefire CPUs

>>60656207
1g is a lot. plating doesn't require that much gold

>>60656435
It's my daily driver so the usual and gaming.

>>60656389
>Churchill starts bombing german cities without any tactical objective to get a reaction out of Hitler and show the world what a evil leader he is
Fat

>>60656482
what skylake processor do you have?

>>60656482
then no. you should stop caring about CPUs until your CPU will start showing it's age.

>>60656381
fuck i can't wait for the AGESA update to hit my board.

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>>60651924
>single-socket holocaust encore
wew, brutal af

>>60656506
it's still not quite there for most dual sided dimms specifically cheaper samsung, hynix and micron

I need someone's help with hacking something

>>60656526
delete system32 so the government can't track your moves

>>60656497
6600K, and i don't even overclock lol

>>60656500
I already thought so but i liked the idea of having AMD instead of Intel.

I need help with someone who knows how to control someone's phone

>>60656557
grab a 1700 and you'll be set for the next half decade at least

>>60655975
>non-issue
>can shave off 10c avg

O-ok, anon.

>>60656506
I run 2666 and XMP doesn't fucking work at all. Running at 2133 right now.

Will this AGESA fix this shit?

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>>60656174
BOMB

>>60656607
10c is on the conservative side

>>60656618
what motherboard do you have?

>>60656748
MSI B350M Gaming pro. Get constant BSODs on fresh installs of Windows as well.

I'm putting it down to XMP trying to change some locked variable that the new AGESA will unlock. Haven't tried fucking with timings manually yet either.

>>60656803
>MSI B350M
>M
as far as I read agesa update is nowhere to be seen for your board. I haven't seen any beta either. could come later in june.

>>60656278
oh woah
looks like you should be aiming for a 3200 set

>>60656905
Well that's fine and dandy by me, as long as it fixes this shit.

What concerns me is that this AGESA is doing crazy shit like 4GHz memory speeds while normal DDR4 seems to be fixed, yet my memory is still fucking out on latest BIOS.

>>60656927
what is your memory? I'd like to avoid that when I'm building myself a ryzen system.

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>we present to you... TWO CORE TURBO
>on a 18 core part!

Whew
Intel is amazing

>>60656978
Twice as hilarious as Presicion Boost/XFR is already turboes on two cores.

>>60651924
The fin- thermal solution is nigh

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>>60651907
>>60651968
>>60652053
>>60652101
>>60652183
y'all plebs

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>>60656994
Their big TURBOMAXBOOST9000.1 upgrade is a fucking XFR ripoff. It's a copy of a feature no one cares about or uses on Ryzen.

>>60656972
Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666, 2x8GB

>>60657028
dude, you were using shit ram to begin with.

>>60651866
HOUSE FIRES INCOMING

DON'T WORRY GOY IT'LL ONLY COST YOU $2000 TO BURN DOWN YOUR HOUSE

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>>60651866
Meanwhile at AMD

Quad channel ECC
64 PCIe lanes.
Socket big enough to fit in two Intel LGA2077

>>60656027
>6/12 lower clocks than 8/16
>same TDP
what

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>>60657094
JUST
FLING
SHIT
AT
THE
WALL
AND
SEE
WHAT
STICKS

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>>60656027
>tfw I said '$100 a core' as a joke a few days ago

>>60656027
Those pathetic base clocks.

>>60657089
That's a big socket

>>60657014
Nice

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>>60656027
Pricing isn't as disastrous as I hoped but it's still almost double the price for the same core count.
>$220 R5 1600 vs $389 i7 7800X
>$330 R7 1700 vs $599 i7 7820X

Coupled with the shitty base clocks and 140W TDP, this is simply worse than current AMD offerings.

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>>60656129
>xDDDDDDDDDD

>>60657170
The motherboard cost is going to be crazy high, too.

For >>60657166

>>60657170
and jewboys will eat this shit with pleasure

>>60657207
Both X299 and X399 will cost high.

Bigger sockets, more M2/SATA/USB/errything, more expensive chipsets, more PCIe lanes, more memory slots, thicker PCBs to handle more power delivery, more VRMs to handle more power, etc.

Naturally price will go up compared to mainstream AMD and Intel

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1800X $499 MSRP
7820X $599 MSRP
Interesting. Looking forward to benchmarks

Threadripper 16/32 $??? MSRP
7960X 16/32 $1699 MSRP
And so it begins

>>60657251
>1800X
>buying a overclocked 1700

For what reason

>>60657251
You should compare 1700 to 7820x, lmao.

>>60657089
AMD please stop bullying Intel please

>>60657089
This looks like the ultimate workstation part. Fuck, it even supports ECC.

>>60657261
Comparable stock clock is why I wrote that one up
They're better binned, not overvolted, so calling it just an overclocked 1700 is a little dishonest as accurate as it is imo.

>>60657268
Well I was looking at the base clocks

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>>60651883

>>60657285
The 1800X needs less voltage than the 1700 for the same clocks, but is that really worth $200?

>>60656152
Um no sweetie, it's the other way around :)

>>60657320
Not to me and it sounds like it isn't to you either. But I still think it was the most reasonable comparison.

>>60653246
I have, on those high power work lights. All my indoor lights have 5W bulbs, why the fuck would you use some high power bulb when even these cheap ones are 400 lumen.

>>60656389

Go back to >>>/pol/

>>60651883
kek

>>60657413

It's also about power density. See the metal casing on the base of a LED lamp, that's ALL for cooling. Also, most LED lamps I have seen failinghave a busted controller/driver, and that's usually due to heat.

Meanwhile, on a CPU, you have 140W concentrated in something the size of a fingernail. That's the power density of burning paper. Good luck with that.

>>60655642
You are absolutely retarded/baiting.

>>60656618
Gigabyte ab350 G3
agesa 1.0.0.4 -> 2666mhz max, 16-18-18-36
agesa 1.0.0.5 -> 2666mhz max, 14-15-15-30
agesa 1.0.0.6 -> 3200mhz max, but not stable
currrect settings: 2933mhz, 14-15-15-30

>>60656027
they rate 7900k on 140 tdp? we already know it reached 175watts !

oh man im going to buy a ton of popcorn

>>60657461
I was never defending any of your shitty meme CPUs, you can all enjoy burning your shit down for all I care. Intel and AMD both have been making incendiary bombs for a while.

>>60656048
what a time people actually understanding that amd is significally less power hungry...and intel going the amd fx 95xx way reaching almost 200 watts

>>60657514
can anyone give tips how to properly setup primary and secondary ram timings?

>>60653321
This is true, I worry about temps sometimes, but I'm still way under the 100c that Intel has listed as Kaby lake's ceiling. You /g/uys are programmed to think above 80c is "house fire" tier or whatever, but in truth the chips can run much hotter and be fine, it is a feature. They put out a chip with the highest single core performance, factory clocked to 4.2 ghz and 91w, it's gonna get hot. So they made sure it could handle the heat. If they made the same chip that throttles at 85c, then meme it. I don't get this AMD vs Intel team shit.

>>60651866
According to Tom's, Intel RECOMMENDS WATER COOLING Skylake-X


140W TDP? As fucking if, that's at base clocks.
Enjoy your thermi

If you stick with the yid, you must delid.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-x-series-skylake-x-kaby-lake-x-x299-basin-falls-core-i9,34545.html

>The LGA2066 socket is compatible with LGA2011 cooling solutions, which is a plus. However, Intel now recommends water cooling as the minimum cooling option, which will add more cost to the overall solution.


>However, Intel now recommends water cooling as the minimum cooling option,
>minimum cooling option
>minimum

>Intel RECOMMENDS WATER COOLING Skylake-X
NETBURST 2.0

>Joke that Skylake-X is NetBurst 2.0
It actually is and it comes with an Extreme Edition!

>>60651866

What bothers me more that 9's not a prime number.

core 2, i3, i5, i7....

>>60657014
this is when intel catch the core bug from amd and then amd go on to dominate the ipc in cpu's and intel are just known for producing high core count heaters

Did I just woke up in the Bizarro universe?

>>60657862
No, it's just the cycle of CPU development.

Intel gets lazy, AMD rapes them sideways, AMD gets lazy, Intel rapes them sideways.

AMD has been both competitive and outright better since K6 to K8, which is a good 7 years.

Thing is though, this time AMD doesn't have retarded management like Hector, but Lisa Su, they won't stop, as evidenced by their gattling gun of a roadmap

>>60657281
Ryzen already supports ECC, just Un-Registered is all.

>>60651866
>still charging $240 for 4c/4t
Being filthy Jews is what they're doing.

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>>60654491
Nope

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>>60656129
Your tears are DELICIOUS :^)

>>60656152
>Doesn't know what AVX2 is
>Doesn't know how few people and use it
>Doesn't know what TDP is
This is just embarrassing for you.

>>60651866
There's no excuse for that. The dies of the HEDT chips are more than large enough to handle solder without cracking.

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>>60658031
It does in games. It even loses with better timings.

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>>60657736
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>60657785
Holy fucking shit hahahahahhahaha they have gone FULL RETARD

>>60653202

Nigga id like to see you shine a 5 watt laser at a can of butane.

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>>60658114
1) that's Kabby Lake
2) It's close enough to Kabby Lake at the same clocks that it is at least tied with Skylake in the vast majority of scenarios

>>60653202
First, they are 100w. Second, the filament heats up to 3000C.

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>>60657667
>as time goes by the laws of physics need not apply to Intel cpu's

>>60658114
Stop posting this misleading cherrypicked bullshit. Post the actual link, you fucking shill faggot. http://www.zolkorn.com/en/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-vs-intel-core-i7-7700k-mhz-by-mhz-core-by-core-en/view-all/

>>60658114
You picked out Farcry, Tombraider which are both games which are known to have issues with Ryzen CPUs. In fact, a patch for Tombraider was just released that fixes the Ryzen issues.

>>60658261
>JUST WAIT

>>60654659
>telling them that 4 cores is enough
Although that didn't work so good, so they might aswell just sell them the workstation CPUs anyway.

>>60658268
The waiting's over, faggot. >>60657595

What has AMD done to Intel? This is pure sodomizing

>>60658114
>picking BF1 DX11 over DX12
kys shill

>>60656027
Wonder what this means for Coffee Lake S prices. $350 6 core?

>>60655891
>use more power
Nope.
>lower lifespans
That's not a battery, anon.

>>60651866
60c temps? What do you need 70c temps for? Everyone knows 80c temps are perfectly acceptable. Help! Police! This goy is trying to shoah me over a mere 90c CPU temp! You be hearing from my lawyers over the 50c under load you still owe me!

>>60652283
>tovarisch
What means this?
alternatively, what is tovarich?

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>>60656129

>>60658338
>what is electromigration
enjoy you're broken shit

>>60658261
>Tombraider
SE JUST, like fucking hours ago, fixed RoTR.

>>60652550
no more gold for you silly goy

>>60658880
Kekximus maximus


Previous Patch: https://abload.de/img/riseofthetombraider05dcutq.png

Ryzen Patch: https://abload.de/img/riseofthetombraider05b9urs.png

720p Dx12 + Very High preset

>>60658905
>those mountain peak scores

What the fuck was Ryzen doing there before that patch? That's like a 100% increase.

As for the others, the minimums shot up significantly but averages less so.

Man, Zen is fucking awesome.

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>>60658905
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-processor-review,17.html

Someone will have to redo their cherrypicked images soon.

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>>60658937
>Man, Zen is fucking awesome.
You never doubt Him.

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>>60658905
NOO SQUARE ENIX WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR GUY, HE SHOULD HAVE HELPED US

>>60659024

>>60658962
>implying they won't just keep reposting them anyway
Warhammer and Ashes were patched months ago and I still see the day one benchmarks of those posted by retards and shills.

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>>60659046
AMD's trustzone isn't anywhere near as bad as Intel's backdoored exploitable shit.

>>60659073
same
code

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>>60659101

>>60658979

>needs three cpu patches to run properly
>still wonky memory support
>doesn't overclock well at all
>meh stock frequencies
>meh IPC
>meh 1080p performances

I'll keep my I5 3570k for now.

>>60659339
Funny you should say so, because mine is being turned into something else the minute I can get my hands on that Threadripper stuff

>>60659381
>64 (sixty four) PCI-E lanes
THANK YOU BASED AMD FOR NOT GIMPING FUCKING PCI-E LANES.

>>60659339
>needs three cpu patches to run properly
Welcome to new architecture launches.
>still wonky memory support
Wrong. http://www.game-debate.com/news/22985/amd-ryzen-agesa-1-0-0-6-update-adds-support-for-memory-clocks-up-to-ddr-4000mhz
>>60659339
>meh IPC
Wrong. http://www.zolkorn.com/en/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-vs-intel-core-i7-7700k-mhz-by-mhz-core-by-core-en/view-all/
>meh 1080p performances
Literally who cares? Who is buying a new PC in 2017 to play at 1080p? Scrubs, that's who.

>I'll keep my i5 3570k for now.
A 1600X would absolutely shit all over that old-ass i5. 110% faster multicore performance even when accounting for overclock.

>>60657166
2U rackmount