>i9 7920k
>12 core
>4ghz base clock
>4.5ghz turbo
>IPC higher than Kaby Lake
So, are you going to buy it /g/?
7920X ^
nah I'm poor and happy with second gen i7, also not a gaymer
>>60594166
>gaymer
>12 cores
No
>>60594166
>>60594177
Exactly.
see picrelated
>>60594136
>4ghz base clock
>12 core
At 300W TDP?
No because my 4790k is still totally fine.
There isn't much that makes use of 4 cores properly, even less that can make us of 6-8, and almost nothing for the average desktop that uses 8+. Not to mention it's going to be retardedly expensive.
>So, are you going to buy it /g/?
it it exists and I also need to upgrade from my 1700X, sure
I'm pretty damn sure the answer will be "no" in both cases
>>60594136
>IPC higher than Kaby Lake
it is kaby lake you moron
>>60594136
7900x reported on sisfot sandra 175 tdp...
7920k probably will be fx95xx tdp toaster level
but hey its ok when intel have BIGGER TDP
>>60594136
ive been saying for a year that we're entering a processor core race.
amdicklets just cant compete with intels 12 inch BWC cores.
IMG_XXX
>>60594334
>175W TDP
My my, Lord Prescott is back.
>>60594136
>>4ghz base clock
Did you pull that 800MHz out of your ass?
180w CPU
no thanks i'm poor and my 6700k meets all my needs
beside i don't have a spare $2k NZD
and i'm not a fan of $500 big ones on my powerbil so no and no.
>>60594356
https://hothardware.com/news/intel-10-core-skylake-x-core-i9-7900x-leak-4ghz-base-45ghz-turbo
>Previous leaks pegged this Skylake-X part as having 10 cores and 20 threads clocked at 3.3GHz, with the ability to reach 4.3GHz with Turbo 2.0 and 4.5GHz with Turbo 3.0. However, a new listing in SiSoft Sandra's database reports a different base clockspeed. According to the listing, the Core i9-7900X has a base clockspeed of 4.0GHz. Here is a look:
>>60594386
>SiSoft Sandra's
The same site that put the integrated GPU in Ryzen APUs at rx 460 performance?
Yeah, I'd rather take Intel's own slides over that, there might be a 4.0 base part, but it would be at insane TDP and cost more than a kidney, easier to just overclock.
>>60594405
considering that ryzen will probably have vega on them i think that 460 level of perf is perfectly reasonable i mean the demo of hbcc showed that it could help A LOT in weak cards..
>>60594136
No. Because it won't have those clocks, won't have higher IPC than Kaby Lake, and won't be cheaper than Threadripper which will utterly crush it in every single performance metric.
Pic related is the entire Skylake-X line.
>>60594405
>insane tdp
Like a piece of shit rx580 which has higher TDP than a gtx 1080 but performs like a 1060?
>>60594436
Only 700 shaders, no GDDR*, much lower clocks
There's no way in hell it's reaching 460 performance unless Vega's IPC is 60% higher than Polaris
>>60594446
What do AMD GPUs got to do with Intel CPUs?
You're not making a lot of sense.
>>60594136
>12 core
For what purpose?
>4.5 turbo
On two cores maybe
>IPC higher than Laby Lake
By 5% or less as usual
Also you forgot 200w power draw under load.
>>60594446
I wonder what will happen to X299 motherboard when some faggot overclocks a 10 or 12 core and starts trying to pull 300W+ through the socket.
>>60594457
Vega is a piece of poo. It will, at most, perform like a 1 year old mid range gtx 1080, if not worse. Mark my words
>>60594476
Source: My ass
Did he wake up?
>>60594386
Looks like Intel plans on diversifying into home stellar fusion reactors.
>>60594457
we already know that vega will reach 1600mhz
so yeah based on what we know (since its totally different from the previous gcn ) the ipc is at least 40% higher
>>60594481
Amd said its bandwidth it's 480GB/s, lower than 1 year old GDDR5X. Your wait was in vain poojet
>>60594497
????????????
I think you missed the entire discussion chain.
Hint: It's not about desktop vega
>>60594498
Please post benchmarks of Vega's performance or fuck off with your asspulled opinions.
>>60594498
wccft said that it will be 480gb/s
meanwhile hynix the actually hbm2 constructor actually says its 1tb/s
but you know facts dont matter here..
>>60594512
Wccftech just reported what AMD said themselves
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-vega-frontier-edition-radeon-pro-vega-ssg-detailed/
Pooga has 480GB/s bandwidth, lower than 484GB/s on 1 year old GDDR5X.
As I said, you waited for nothing
>>60594508
i got it lol i mean that amd can actually offer a dedicated small to mid range full chip on their apu's now..raja said that they were working on a massive interposer for the cpu+gpu+hbm (tho i doubt its going to be for desktop use but anyways...more likely something to do with navi)
You idiots just can't help yourself, can you?
>>60594527
Where are those Vega benchmarks? Oh right, you don't have any and you are just making entirely evidence free shitposts.
>>60594527
you should really educate your self on what hbm2 is and what hbc is
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Vega-GPU-Architecture-Preview-Redesigned-Memory-Architecture
i dont really care but its a shame to be so illiterate on a tech board..
>>60594535
>idiots
>yourself
>idiotS
>yourself
You actually are a shitskin who can't into English, now I have evidence.
>>60594136
>ipc higher than kabylake
>implying intel have made any ipc improvements since haswell
>not waiting for Threadripper
Retards lmao
>>60594136
>Upcoming 7640k 4-core
>112w
>4.0ghz base clock
Go ahead and make your own inference on what the TDP would be of an Intel 12-core with a 4ghz base clock.
>>60594195
doesn't it comes with more single core performance too
>>60594663
yeah and 7900x intel says its 140w while sisoft says its a 175 toaster..
its not like intel lied before about their tdp EH?
>>60594663
>TFW 9001W TDP
my i7 3770 will be viable well into the next decade so no
>>60594136
>>60594136
>IPC higher than Kaby Lake
pretty sure that a 250watt TDP chip and unless it's a new arch, it has the SAME Instructions Per Clock but with outright shit performance-per-watt.
try again in a year or so.
>>60594386
>hothardware
Well, they got that part right.
>>60594776
More like 4 years or so. Intel is stuck on this arch until 2021.
>>60594797
Go away 14xxxx.jpg
>>60594848
>WAAAAAAH people are shitposting in response to my shitposting!!!!!! IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!!!
>>60594934
Too poor I see
>>60594940
Why throw away money on this piece of shit when there will a much faster, cheaper alternative from AMD? That doesn't make much sense, no matter how rich you are.
>>60594956
you are arguing on a place that is filled with intel and nvidia shills..
>>60594956
>faster
>from AMD
Lul no
>>60594797
Never doubt the power of money, my man.
sure intel dropped the ball, but we have to remember that they have deeper pockets than AMD does, not to mention the history this company has when it comes to unethical practices.
FYI intel STILL hasn't paid AMD that settlement money, because they're challenging it in courts, so despite it still being the same amount of money, due to inflation, that money will be worth less than it was when the amount was penned down.
I'm the guy you replied to, by the way.
>>60594136
Do the jews seriously have a warehouse of tech ready to go advanced far more than we're seeing and they just throw one out anytime AMD gets close? Fucking seriously, do they? I seriously wonder what intel could release if they wanted to.
>>60595024
They don't.
This isn't a new arch, it's the same one, just multiple packages on the same socket.
No IPC improvement, no TDP improvement, so this is likely a 200+watt TDP chip.
>>60595004
Does the game even have good threading?
Wouldn't some other Ryzen be better if it doesn't?
Anyway he meant for actual /g/ related uses, not for gayming.
For gayming it's only important that it doesn't bottleneck you preventing from reaching screen refresh rate (iirc even for 4k @144Hz mustard race it will be enough, because 4k gets bottlenecked by GPU).
>>60595072
IPC is same as mainstream Skylake.
They just managed to increase clocks a d put more cores due to better fab/smaller node.
What is possible interesting is that Intel is saying cores will have 1mb l2 with reduced l3.
>>60595154
Bulpoo
>>60594177
lel once intel goes multicore, gayming will required minimum at least 6 to run. Remember intel core extreme and i7 shove into every pc game intro out there ?
Why would anyone buy an i9 when the Xeon line exists? Is i9 the new Itanium line?
>>60595257
Xeon= 44cores 88 threads but low clocks (3ghz or so)
i9= 12 cores but 4.5ghz
>>60595277
What Xeon has 44 cores? Their still unreleased newest one is 28 core and it has 2.5GHz clocks
>>60595312
You get the point
>>60594436
550 level performance is what I'm guessing.
>>60595412
No, Zen mobile has 764 shaders and Vega architectural improvements.
The 512 shaders of the rx 550 can't compete even with GDDR bandwidth(which is mostly negated for vega with HBCC, L2 caches and tiled rendering) isn't gonna make much of a difference.
The biggest issue is clocks, but I don't expect it to be clocked below 900MHz.
>>60595004
HURR 12CORE GAYMEN WITH DOALAKE-X!
>>60595194
LMAO
>>60595257
They might need a portable nuclear reactor.
>>60595481
>a double core cpu does the same in a multi threaded benchmark
Wooooow
>>60595499
>>60595505
Fake
>>60595520
http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-1700x-benchmarks-leaked-beats-kaby-lake-ipc/
Intel's single core advantage is purely a function of clock speed, not IPC.
>>60595499
>[4C/8T]
>>60595139
we dont know the full specs of the vega cards we cant go assuming based on what the previous gcn card do because gcn 4.0 is literally a new design..
i assume we will see a broad range of apus
asus is the first to have already shown a laptop with a ryzen apu ( a week ago) still no details what so ever
>>60595553
>1700X
>4.5GHZ
You just blew your bait pajeet
>>60595499
>>60595481
You may be retarded, see
>>60595554
>>60595586
its simulated moron on 4c mode they can reach 4.5 ghz
>>60595602
Bullpoo, their 4c 1400 cpu can't clock for shit either
STOP
REPLYING TO
FUCKING
SHITPOSTERS
FAGGOTS
>>60595586
Maybe try reading the article before commenting, moron.
>>60595622
they do now with the new agesa...
but you know its not like shills knows what is going on..
This thread is cancer.
>>60594177
nigga pls, C++ has a fucking thread library now
>>60595499
>YFW you realize you made a fool of yourself.
>>60595004
>csgo as a benchmark
full retard.
Ryzen destroys the competition
>>60594136
MOAR BIBELINES!
MOAR BINGBUSSES!
MOAR CLAWKZ!
MOAR TDPz!
>>60594136
>>60594476
>>60594498
>>60594527
>>60594593
>>60594663
>>60594848
>>60594940
>>60595004
>>60595194
>>60595586
Go away IMG_xxxx
>Intel's response to the Threadripper announcement
>>60595024
Nvidia certainly does.
Everything AMD does Nvidia has a counter 3 months before it comes out.
Nobody is buying i9 XTREME EDITION nuclear housefire tier CPUs for $2000. Hardly anyone even bought the last 140 watt atrocity.
>>60595733
True, but Gpu is relatively easy to gain performance per generation
someone PLEASE post more jew/intel memes.
im looking for the one where it has an intel and amd merchant looking at an unsuspecting buyer at the cpu store.
>>60594512
>1tb/s
That's if they're using 4 stacks (like Fury). Vega uses 2 stacks however, so it gets 512GB/s at most. It's apparently clocked slightly lower so only gets 480GB/s.
>>60595783
This one?
>>60594472
On one core, for 5 mins max.
Turbo Boost 3.0 is fucking shit.
>>60595814
Chance of higher clocked in the future?
>>60595834
>Shekelchasers faces when 16-core Threadripper hits 4.0ghz on all cores
>>60595783
>>60595834
Turbo boost works on all cores.
>>60595887
Learn the difference between TB 2.0 and 3.0 you fucking retarded tripfag. Kill yourself while you're at it.
>>60595887
Turbo Boost 3.0 only works on a single core. (All TB3.0 CPUs have TB2.0 though, which works as expected)
http://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au/en/support/processors/000021587.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10337/the-intel-broadwell-e-review-core-i7-6950x-6900k-6850k-and-6800k-tested-up-to-10-cores/2
>>60595858
No idea, but it's not like a 32GB/s difference is really going to matter all that much. 480GB/s and 512GB/s would likely perform nearly identically in any real-world gaming scenario. It's just a ~6% drop from 512GB/s, it's fucking nothing.
There is a point to be made that GDDR5X is able to reach the same ballpark as HBM2 on a 384b bus though. AMD seem to have waited this long for HBM2 and it doesn't even bring them any bandwidth advantage while apparently being pretty scarce and expensive.
>>60594136
>>IPC higher than Kaby Lake
how can the IPC be higher when it's the exact same architecture?
>>60594136
>IPC higher than Kaby Lake
>skylake has higher ipc than kaby lake
>>60595887
Kill yourself you perma-BTFO'd tripfaggot
>>60595933
Kaby Lake has the same IPC as Skylake, just slightly higher clocks. Skylake-X has changes from Skylake, it's not just moar coars. We'll have to see how that translates into actual IPC.
>>60595822
yes but with two merchants.
>>60595960
>Skylake-X has changes from Skylake
Not in the scheduler, though. At most it's the enabling of AVX-512.
>>60594136
Not if it has the Intel Management Engine backdoor. I'm trying to avoid the botnet, not embrace it.
>>60595980
They also have cache changes, more L2 and less L3 IIRC. I don't know what exactly that will do to IPC or if will even be noticeable at all in real-world usecases.
>>60595992
It'll likely have more backdoors.
Why wouldn't it?
The public reaction to the ME backdoor was 'who the fuck cares'
>>60596011
>more L2
Right, that's true. Prepare for higher L2 latencies, though.
>>60596011
Who cares? It's DOA anyway.
>>60596020
>try to explain the danger of having the ME to my family
>they too just give off the 'who the fuck cares' tone
This is going to blow up very badly.
>>60595887
So did you like go and sulk in a corner after being blown the fuck out?
>>60595928
>while apparently being pretty scarce and expensive
These are still just rumors as far as I'm concerned.
RETURN OF THE KING.
>>60595928
>6% is fucking nothing
fuck off stupid kike shill
>>60596072
Well, exploit it then and show them the danger of their ways.
>>60596042
They quadrupled the pathways and the L2 so it's no different.
>>60596234
Try OCing the VRAM on a 1080Ti by 6% and run some benchmarks too convince yourself that it's fucking nothing.
>>60594136
>So, are you going to buy it /g/?
>buying a $3000 housefire
lol no
we dont know if amd will use hbm2 along with the hbcc..since we know that it can use every single memory type that exists today
>>60596402
Bad goyim! Bad!
>>60596042
and lower associativity.
>>60594136
How much better is it compared to my 3750k?
>>60596402
No price listed yet so no one knows. Has AMD listed their price yet? It's likely just above
>>60594136
you forgot
>$2,200
Why? Because fuck you that's why
>>60594136
>base price $6999
JUST WAIT
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>>60595928
Because AMD isn't using HBM for bandwith, they're using it for its tFAW, power and diesize advantages.
The first one being very important for HBCC, and is most of the reason that tombraider bench at 2GB did what it did, the rest are self explanatory.
>>60596617
LMAO waiting for DOAlake-X
>175W TDP
>>60596748
>12 cores at 4.0
>175W
Try 80% more
>>60594136
It will be more than $400 which is my ultimate down to Earth price limit on a CPU.
>>60594136
>$2000
>400w
Ebin
>>60594136
>literally Netburst 2.0
No thanks.