/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

What was the last good Thinkpad?

>>60583425
T430

>>60583331
NEW THREAD

>>60583488
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>>60583500
>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T420 and X220 if you want to be smart.

Nice try retard.

Gonna transplant a X1 Carbon screen into my T430s. Bought a LCD extender cable from china that will arrive in 2-4 weeks.

Anyone done this or something similar? I read on the tp wiki that you need to snip a triangle from the one edge of the cable?

Experiences appreciated :-)

>>60583561
>>60583488

>>60583593
Stop shilling your stupid thread. No one cares about your inferior xx20 series, and you were late to make the new thread.

neck yourself

>>60583671
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>>60583331
I currently have an X201 but I'm looking for an upgrade. How is the X230? How is the thickness compared?

>>60583790
x201: 11.6" x 8.3" x 0.8-1.4"
x230: 12.0" x 8.13" x 0.75-1.05"

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repost from the other new thread...
best thing i have ever done to t430

>>60583790
how much of an upgrade do you want

it can take 16gb ram if that's what u need

cpu performance marginal, depends which ones you have/can get, look up benchmarks

integrated graphics performance big upgrade

battery life probably a big upgrade if you get a good one

>seller has two x230's for sell
>missed first one, had to pay a slight premium for the second because it had 8gb ram
>already have 8gb laptop ram sitting around

poorfag life

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>>60583958
classic keyboard bros WW@

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>>60583331
Daily reminder: 2570p is better that x230

My T41p just arrived. It seems to have a supervisor password. After the IBM logo it shows a padlock and a PC besides it.
Seller says that he doesn't remember the password.

What do

>>60584128
Return it, take your anti-autism pills. Get t440p instead

>>60584097
Dumb frogposter.

>>60584128
return

but if you just press enter you can still get into the BIOS, you just can't change any of the options

so if everything you want is already disabled/enabled then it might not be a big deal

>>60584157
but muh Intel Centrino™
muh legacy software

>>60584128
Look for a stack of papers that you can't afford to have the wind blow away.

Asking again
>>60583011

>>60584174
Nope, won't let me even enter the BIOS. Internal CMOS battery was dead so I installed a new one and then says "Check date-time" but I cannot access the BIOS.

>>60584197
Never heard of this, sorry.

>>60584085
the top part of your palmrest seems fucked mate, but still, kudos for the classic keyboard. i had no such problems with fitting it.

>>60584197
Maybe the screen backlight is bleeding over the ThinkLight?

Also, that T43 problem might be the inverter.

>>60584161
dumb thinkcuck

>>60584197
i do not think you can disable the primary lcd like that

>>60584085
Are you mentally retarded?
Fix your palmrest you dumb thinkfag

Does anyone have experience with chinkshit thinkpad batteries? I need t420 replacement batteries and I'm trying to figure where I should get them. The new oem ones are $100, but I don't want one that is going to turn into a brick or a house fire.

>>60584256
Could be. It's not that much of an issue, though, just a bit curious.
It happens even when you turn it off, that's why I'm asking; it's not bright as a LCD backlight, it's actually really dim. The ThinkLight works great, nonetheless.

>>60584265
>>60584256
Regarding the T43, is it hard or expensive to fix the screen inverter or should I just try to get another screen if I happen to buy it?

>>60584291
Most of the time you're safer with OEM batteries, chinks rarely have their advertised capacity and in some cases they can die on you or allahu akbar while you're shitposting about why you should install Gentoo

>>60584291
$70 on amazon for genuine lenovo 9-cell batteries

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Extended-Battery-0a36303-Originals/dp/B00LLT3ANI/

just make sure you get it from a good seller

>>60584263
Kiss my ass.

>>60584248
Yeah it's fucked, I have a new palmrest coming in this weekend.

Is 1366x768 shit?

>>60584557
Yep. 1600x900 is bad enough, but at least bearable at 14 inches.

>>60584128
Welcome to the club pal
http://xiphmont.livejournal.com/70560.html
FIGHT!

>>60584157
Fuck you. T41p doesn't have any of that Intel ME/AMT shit

>>60584378
What if I live in Yuropoor?

>>60584626
Neither does mine, dipshit. I'm not a faggot who can't remove ME myself.

>>60584646
You can remove ME in T440p? Yeah good luck

>>60584659
You retarded, son? It works on every platform now, including new Kaby Lake chips.

>>60584640
sorry to hear

>>60584592
Just tried shorting SCL and SDA and the IBM logo hangs saying "Entering IBM BIOS setup"

I hope this works.

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Can anyone explain to me why the sockets on these T420 boards are different and why there are other subtle differences

>>60584728
Not sure, but my T430 has the same thing.

>>60584667
Wait what? You mean they patched it? But isn't intel me part of the CPU itself? I mean afaik, modern CPU can't work without intel me because it also handles some important stuff which are quite essential to the cpu itself.

>>60584668
You mean there is no hope of getting OEM batteries? Hello? Halp plox

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>>60583331 (OP)
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>>60583500
>trying to hijack thread to push his own shitty pasta
Can you off yourself please

>>60584097
>this fag again
Please fuck off /tpg/ was much better without you derailing every question

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New t420.

>>60584640
You go to Aliexpress and hope not to get any housefires

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I found a SL500 in a trash pile in front of an electronics school in decent visual state. It had Windows XP installed on it but wouldn't boot because the controller was set to AHCI instead of IDE after the BIOS battery died, which is presumably why it was thrown in the trash. Installed Arch on it and it runs like heaven.

Why haven't I heard of this model before? It has a comfy screen and can be upgraded to hell.

>>60584786
No it doesn't, it's just spyware. You can patch it out.

>>60584951
>literally wrote (OP) next to OP post to trick people
Shitty bait
Please off yourself and your shitty thread

What's the best Thinkpad under a grand

>>60585161
Any requirements?

>>60585112
And if I desire for ultrabay battery or sliced battery, then I'm completely fucked?
It's about time that I start to learn using ebay

well, >>60583488 has fewer posts and these two new tpg's are only like an hour apart so i guess this is the new thread

>>60585175
Would prefer a 1080 screen
rest you could always up later, innit

>>60585161
Despite the shilling thrown by this faggot >>60584951 X220/T420 and under are almost always sold under a grand and run very well, even when it comes to playing vidya. If you manage to find a T430 for that price though, you should go for it.

>>60585221
The fuck? You shouldn't be paying more than $100 for a barebones T430 without a drive.

$200 for a fully working unit.

A grand gets you a brand new current gen model.

>>60585218
if u dont care for the older keyboards just go for the T470 os X270 or some shit with the dual batteries and a FHD screen. iirc with the employee code one of these laptops is under 1k

>>60584951
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>>60585239
Oh yeah, sorry. I forgot to mention that was on the European market. They're harder to come by here.

>>60585250
fuck off shill, hope the mods ban you and your shitty spam

>>60585254
different poster
my condolences for you having to deal with european availability

>>60585239
And I might have also read a grand as 100$ like a cunt, so there's that too.

>>60585218
Follow what >>60585239 and >>60585241 said.

>>60585218
Weight?
You could go for a T530 or a W530 or maybe a T440 with a touchpad swap and T440p with a pad swap

>>60585241
>>60585221
all right i'll take a look
thanks
>>60585285
Don't mind any weight

>>60585218
>>60585241
If you do care for the older keyboards, there are obscure methods to install FHD panels into (nonexhaustively): T420, T430, X220, X230

What docks are compatible with a T530? And what hardware do I need for the BIOS flash?

>>60585294
W530 or even W540 with a touchpad swap

>>60585304
I mention the X230 and T430 because iirc it's a simple deal to drop in the X220 or T420 keyboard

If I open up a site for doing hardware flashes for people (both custom BIOS for shit like AES-NI, Overclocking, and Advanced Menu, and/or whitelist removal), how much would you pay for the service (not including shipping), and would you be interested in it?

>>60585315
What's the difference between a T model and a W model ?

>>60585304
Really not worth mentioning because the parts are so hard to come by

>>60585308
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd024298

I'm not sure if the 170W version will work with it, you can also go for the non-usb 3.0 models, but they're all pretty cheap off ebay so whatever

>>60585336
If I didn't know how to do it I'd probably be interested, but that being said people who are usually interested in that stuff tend to know how to do it themselves.

It really depends on what kind of market you're aiming for.

>>60585350
RAM slots + GPU.

>>60585336
It should be cheaper than buying a Pomona chip plus hardware flasher/raspberry pi so people can justify actually sending shit to you but it should be able make what you're spent back in under 10 jobs

>>60585133
It's funny, that was one of the low end xx00 laptops, and now it looks nicer than anything Lenovo makes.

>>60584728
ran out of one or the other when starting a new batch

>>60585133
Because it's not business grade hardware
That's not bad but unless you pull them out of the trash like you did they're not worth getting over the recommended models usually because they're priced really closely to them and the recommended models aren't that pricey to begin with

>>60585090
you had any issues on ubuntu with crashes from i915 drivers? I keep getting system hangs after 15 mins - 45 mins of uptime. it causes the machine to reboot.

I bought a T430 about one hr ago, it will ship in the mail. It has a i5-3210M and 1600 X 900 res.
Only 4 GB ram, but I have 8 GB ready here, so it will run on 12. It comes with a 250 Gb stone age version, so that will be replaced with a Sumsumg 750 Evo 256 SSD.
Then I'll be set to go, I payed almost 180 usd, I'm a Scandinavia-fag, so I think the price is ok. I am curious to if it is worth the effort to upgrade cpu ? And is it possible to get an old keyboard (the T420 version) that is back-lid?
Seller said battery last a bit more than one hr, so I better get a new one. Where to get? Pointers much appreciated.

>>60585636
yeah that's a good price

>I am curious to if it is worth the effort to upgrade cpu ?

if you don't know whether you need it or not, you probably won't, not worth the effort

no, *20 keyboards are not back-lit

>>60585636
Quick reminder that finding a cpu from a dead laptop is easy but the real issue is you also need the dGPU heatsink to make it work

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Who else is /egpu/ here

I just got a 1366x768 t430 - how much of a ride is it to replace the panel?

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wtf is going on here.. the acpi calls are within a second of each other

>>60585897
(I disconnected the charger before the last one, obviously)

>>60585672
>>60585727
Ty for the input, I guess I will stay with the i5-3210M for a while.

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>>60585879

>>60585623
Nope.

>>60583425
T60

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>ebay listing advertised $16 for USPS priority mail (1-3 days)
>actually used fedex standard shipping, 8 days

can I get a partial refund for this if I really wanted to be a nigger? or should I even bother messaging the seller and just accept being jewed myself and just leave bad feedback passive aggressively

>>60586394
Just call him a fag and leave a bad reviews

>>60583425
xx30 series with keyboard mod

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>>60583958
>>60584085
my niggers

>>60586530
>>60584085
>>60583958

do those extra keys even work?

>>60586575
Yea, how new are you?

>>60586575
After the BIOS mod it works exactly like it should, save for Fn+F12 and Caps Lock light.

>>60586587

just sold my macbook on ebay and am preparing to buy a w550s

>>60585897
Just ordered an expresscard converter so will be having a play about with it in a few weeks when it arrives.

>>60586612
Don't buy that one, it's just a T550 with a quadro GPU. I owned the P50s and P51s which are the successors to the W550s. They're literally just T5x0 models with a weak workstation GPU. Get something else.

>>60586662

ok thanks. I'll get a w541

>>60586773
You could do what I'm doing and go the meme route. a W541 is expensive as shit, but you can get a T540p with a W540 motherboard (auctions, I just got one for $22, it's a $200+ part), and replace the touchpad. Same exact thing as a W541.

>>60586799

Didn't know that was an option. Sounds like it'll save me a few bucks, since I'm under a time constraint and can wait for deals.

Thanks for the tip, anon.

>>60586827
you could consider looking for dell precision m4800's too if you're just looking for a workstation/desktop replacement

>>60586846

I don't even need a workstation. The most demanding thing I'll do is editing some large photos.
Should probably stop being a consumeristfag and just max out a t430

Is the X1 Carbon (2nd gen) bad if I want a laptop for shitposting and maybe a few games on low settings? Is it advisable to avoid a refurbished one with WQHD display on ebay?

>>60587077

Everyone specifically says to stay away from that generation (abominable keyboard)

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>>60587096
thanks, anon. I'm looking to spend $500 to $650 on a 14-inch laptop with dedicated graphics, Non-touch FHD+ display, and ability to play some games on low.

So I bought a Thinkpad W520 around August of last year.
Flash forward now, here's my opinion on it.
It's shit. I don't understand what's so special about it. I mainly use it for browsing the internet, playing some games here and there, use music recording software like FL studios. Pretty much any laptop can do this. Bought for $250, so I guess there's that. But it's so fucking thick.
>inb4 should've got the T420
That shit is so fucking small. I think the price difference for laptops the same size, but 80% thinner is a much better price to play.
Thinkpads are truly a meme.

>>60587073
yeah you'll regret buying a 6-7 lbs laptop

>>60587287
I don't understand. What is it you don't like about it? That you can't actually utilize the entire workstation power you paid for? Whose fault is that? Not the machines'.

>>60585727
The GPU heatsink?
Why cant I re-use the heatsink in my T430?

>>60587471
cooling

>>60586587
>>60586595

What about with coreboot?

>>60587644
EC is separate from the BIOS. Coreboot doesn't touch it.

>>60587158
You could get a T430 with a dedicated gpu and 1600x900 panel for $200-250 and then spend the extra on ram/ssd.

>>60586595
The EC is not part of the BIOS.

So, get this and ram it in my T430?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i7-3630QM-2-4GHz-Quad-Core-Mobile-Laptop-CPU-SR0UX-Socket-G2-CPU4783-/263000498815?hash=item3d3c0d227f:g:rRoAAOSw42JZJLxh

>>60587979
decent but why that one? You can go higher than that

>>60588004
How far can I go without heat issues? I want to go with the stock heatsink.

>>60588072
Why? If you're swapping out the CPU you have to take off the heatsink anyway? Swap in the dGPU heatsink at the same time.

You can go as high as you want except for the XM chips, those get too hot.

>>60584713
Read the fucking instructions. It specifically tells you shorting SCL to SDA does not work. You short PROT to GND.

best small thinkpad for hackintosh?

>>60584097
Daily reminder that quad cores consume more power and therefore are less desirable in a laptop.

>>60584291
I used a chinkshit battery for my x230, with a 9 cell, and I was getting a battery life of somewhere around 6 hours. I don't know how shitty that is compared to OEM batteries, but I just wanted something that had more than the six cell I had and wanted the ability to hold the thinkpad with extra support from the battery.

>>60584557
Yes, and no, it depends on the size of your computer's monitor as well as what you do on it. Personally, I find it sort of rough because I'm the multi-tasking sort, but if you mostly do one task at a time then it's not so bad.

Forget trying to have two pages or two applications opened up side by side and still have it be a comfortable experience however. I would say that it's pretty much always worth trying to get 1600x900 if possible.

>>60585133
What in the love of fuck am I looking at. Show us some more pictures from your machine anon.

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>>60585879

>>60584348
>>60584197
Okay, I checked the post again and it seems that it's a T43p with the following specs for around 30 bucks:

Pentium M @ 2.13 GHz
1GB RAM
60 GB HDD
The screen problem described in the posts above
Optical drive
Includes AC adapter; battery does not hold charge anymore
Windows 7 Ultimate

Y/N?

>>60588540

That's why the batteries are swappable.
Thinkpads are for the gentoomen who need to crunch some numbers while they're on a safari. I've got a spare battery in my cargo shorts.

You're wearing the skinniest of jeans.

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im installing windows 7 on a L440 and I get this. i looked it up and everyone else has the same issue but instead its a CD/DVD drive issue. I tried every solution assuming its the same thing but nothings worked so far. Can anyone help?

>>60589243
is there a BIOS setting preventing you from rewriting the hard drive?

did you try using a flash drive instead of cd?

>>60589313
I am using a flash drive. Im not sure what option would do that.

>>60589367
maybe your iso is corrupted, re-download and reflash flash drive

>>60589122
The batteries of the newer models are swappable. Also, most numbers you'd need to crunch on safari are still something you can do with a dual core. You're on a safari: chances are you need the max level of battery life given that you don't have easy access to a charger.

Using an i7 U instead of HQ is the difference between getting weeks of battery life with your six batteries and getting a week.

>>60589429
I did it with 2 different .iso's, one of which Ive used the other three times I did this and with three different usb drives. This is like the most frustrated Ive ever been doing this shit. I have no idea what my other options are.

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>>60588540

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hype

>>60584097
This

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>>60589641
Cared enough to reply, anon-kun.

>>60589652
Are you upgrading the ram later yourself? I'm comfy on low end hardware, except when it comes to ram. I just find it so difficult to have anything less than 8GB.

>>60588732
Avoid, fixing the screen issue will probably cost you twice what you paid for it.
Get a working one.

>>60589795
yes, will buy a 16GB kit and 256GB SSD

Looking to pick up 15" Thinkpad for my mom, any reason to go for a T530/40 over a T520 if all she's going to do is browse the internet and use a word processor? Am I going to regret going the refurb thinkpad route and having to be her tech support? Should I force Ubuntu or Mint on her instead of whatever Windows may come preinstalled?

>>60590128
T420

I'm trying to install the t420 keyboard on my t430. Can someone please post a decent guide on doing this? It doesn't fit properly with the t430 palmrest, and despite what the thinkwiki says, the t420 palmrest does not work on the t430

>>60590128
well T530's aren't that much more than T520's, keyboard is easier to clean and looks modern

whole machine is newer so it'll probably be in better condition plus it has USB 3.0 so it's relatively future-proofed

you will end up being her tech support if you install linux on it

it's not like it's going to randomly break or fall apart if it's going to be sitting on the kitchen counter its whole life

stick an ssd in it and clean install of whatever version of Windows she is used to and it will last well over 6 years comfortably

>>60590208
you have to shave off some of the little tabs

>>60587979
the 3630qm will throttle to 2.9ghz during encoding, even with a dgpu heatsink

>>60588455
x220, lookup macdonelltech x220

>>60588540
t4**, t5**, and W can use quadcores and they are laptops, your point???

there's literally nothing wrong. unless you want to be gimped by a ulv processor.

>>60588656
>that cum tissue

>>60588732
do not cop, seems like more trouble than it's worth.

>>60589243
>l440
found the problem, literally.

>>60589652
>intel U cpu

wew lad

>>60590128

get whatever is cheaper. don't fall for the refurb meme. get a cheapo one and fix it yourself.
Do you love your mum? keep windows
Do you want to make the laptop unusable for her? install linux, (if you need to, install xubuntu, but seriously, dont, it's for your mum, don't make her suffer just because of your autism).


>>60590208
look up on the archive, IIRC someone did a guide, also some anon made a stream about t430 mods but Idk what happened to it.

>>60590128
I have a t450, she said it was too small. She's never going to move it further than her desk to the couch anyway.

>>60590212
Pretty much matches my thoughts, thanks for the second opinion anon.

>>60584197
>>60588732
You can very easily find a working one for $40 or less. When you do find one make sure it's a 1400x1050 model (there's a 1600x1200 model too but those are rare as fuck), it's super comfy to use. Also you're going to want to upgrade it with a 2GB RAM kit if you want to actually use it. Also dual boot Windows 7 (or XP if you want the nostalgia) and Debian Unstable; everything works out of the box on Debian iirc.

>>60589243
you need to slipstream ahci drivers for your chipset. or have them on cd/flash drive

I'm three weeks away from receiving my brand new X1C. I'm so excited, /g/. What's the best way to get started on it? Other than updating Windows at least.

>>60590271
install gentoo

>>60590271
>brand new X1C

send it back and get a t430

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>>60590231
t. shill

>>60590311
you ran cpu-z for what? 30 seconds?

encode a 1080p h.264 video for 30 minutes and watch what happens

>>60590346
Sure, gimme something to encode.

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>>60590364
>gimme
go fuck yourself

pics or it didnt happen

>>60590423
Setting up a benchmark, but I can already tell you either don't have the dGPU heatsink or your paste is fucked. I don't have these issues.

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>>60590423
Not even getting 100% load.

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>>60588105
Well the document about the AT28RF08 does not say which one is PROT. My guess is that the one called WP (Write Protect).

>>60590469
thats the whole point. once you actually utilize the cpu to 100% load, as i just did with premier cc, you will hit 100c+ and begin to throttle.

Is it just me or does linux have significantly better performance over windows 10?

I have a t430 and I tried using windows on it but it had a bunch of font rendering issues in chrome and was kinda lame. Since I didn't plan on gaming on this machine and I wanted it to be comfy I installed Arch and I noticed that the performance was significantly better. I have the i5, 8gb ram and an SSD.

I'm pretty happy with this purchase, even though it is a 5 year old laptop because it was only ever used in a corporate environment it is pretty much in mint condition apart form the screen wobbling which seems like an easy fix.

>>60590423
What's that monitoring app?

>>60590439
>your paste is fucked
using kryonaut thermal grizzly with a lapped dgpu heatsink

>>60590521
occt
http://www.ocbase.com/

>>60590491
It's you

>>60590311
also, why dont you run occt for say even 5 minutes? i guarantee you will hit 105c no questions asked

just dont forget to uncheck "stop testing if value is above" in settings

>>60590548
you probably applied too much retard

>>60590635
>retard
heasink is designed for 35w cpu
im using a 45w cpu

where do you think the extra heat is going!? just magically dissipates into the thin air?? the heatpipes cant handle the load, hence the cpu begins to throttle.

ive been applying thermal paste since athlon xp 2500+ barton core, OCing to 3.2ghz @ 58c

i know what im doing, son

>>60590635
aint gonna post any pics of your unstable oc are ya now?

thought so

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>>60589828
>>60590245
>>60590253
Sounds fair enough. I'm still looking at two other ThinkPads before I make a decision, but based on what you guys just said, I'll probably skip the T43p.

The other two (actually three) I'm looking at are a T60p with no OS and no battery for about $45, a T61p with unspecified specs and the seller just says that "it doesn't werk" for about $25, and a... R61i? Not sure, I need help identifying it. Goes for around $30 and seller just says "it doesn't werk" too.

Also, which Windows is better if I want the most of my T530? 7, 8.1 or Bloatnet (a.k.a. 10)?

>>60590245
My point? Look at who I was replying to. Their argument is that laptop x is better than y because x has a dual core while y has a quad core. Sure, if your metric for "better" is exclusively based on how fast / how many cores a CPU has, then you're right.

But these are laptops, and they're all designed with use cases in mind. It's comparing apples and oranges to try and compare a small laptop whose priority is portability and battery life to a machine that's a bigger drain on battery life.

>>60585133
>those hinges
God no. What res is the display?

>>60590807

The T60p looks like the better option out of all the models you've listed, it's not as old as the t43 (pentium m are honestly just too old at this point), core2duos are still pretty gud, and if it's only lacking a battery, I'd get that.

IIRC you can build a frankenpad with a t60p but I don't remember right now.

Just stick to windows 7.

>>60590807
If you're going to install Windows at all just go with 10. It's not like resource usage is a worry on a **30. Make sure to install the enterprise version so that you can at least disable some of the spying (which is also in 7). You should really be dual booting with debian or fedora.

>>60591505
Technically I am sort of dual booting with a Debian based distro (Ubuntu MATE; might consider just going for good ol' Debian, though), but for the moment I have to manually change my HDDs because I don't have a caddy yet.

>But Anon, they're $5 on Ali-Express
I know, I really should get one soon, but I do have a question, can the OD be used externally by any means? Or should I just get a proper external OD?

Last but not least, is LTSB 2016 the latest non-trial LTSB available? Do activators work with it?

>>60591569
Why not partition a single drive to dual boot? Also if you go Debian then go with unstable (it's not actually unstable, I actually have less (i.e. none at all now) problems now that i upgraded from the testing branch).

There actually is a cable to connect Thinkpad ultrabay stuff through usb, but it's almost $9 including shipping, and ships from fucking Malaysia. http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-External-Cable-for-ThinkPad-Ultrabay-Slim-SATA-/330552904154

You should definitely get an external optical drive considering you can get one for just $13.

I don't get the LTSB meme, you get importantish updates much later. I went regular enterprise.

KMSpico works with basically every version since 7, look for it on mydigitallife or TPB. I wouldn't google "kmspico" to look for a link because I tried that in a VM and I got malware. There are probably other activation methods also.

>>60591677
Ltsb only downloads security updates without any of the bloat and useless crap Microsoft pushes with each new update. That's the appeal, also more control.

what max resolution can the t420s discrete gpu push?
I forgot the name of it so I can't google it

>>60592117
t420's not the t420s model

>>60586595
desu, my capslock key does not work, what do?

>>60586595
>>60592130
oh, save == except, i get it

Is X260 good? does it work well with Linux?

>>60593367
Shit

>>60593381
What's the most recent non-shit X series one?

>>60593398
x62

>>60593440
Neat.

I have been thinking about this for 9 months now.
X220 sliced battery in yuropoor. Should I be insane and order from amazon.com (US warehouse) or try my luck on ebay.com?

I guess I have to get fucked either way by import taxes.

>>60593367
X260 and T460s are the prime candidates for my next upgrade once my X230 is at the end of the line.

I don't know how good the Linux support is but I'd guess it's fine as I haven't heard read any recent complaints.

>>60594077
Thanks. Is it a big upgrade from X201?

>>60593946
I ordereda battery for my X201 from subtel.de a few years ago and everything has been smooth sailing. They even give you a warranty and let you skip VAT if you have your EU tax number set up.

>>60594094
Well the X260 is currently out of my price range and if I had to upgrade immediately I'd just pick another X230. Maybe the i7 version this time.

X230 is a huge upgrade over X201 if you need more than 8GiB memory or any kind of GPU peformance. I'd expect X260 to be only a bit more than X230 in terms of performance as they've been focusing mostly on powersaving and not getting more powerful CPUs. The GPU is a tad better too.

I dislike the new hinge on X260 but I guess I'll have to adapt if I want to get newer laptop with TrackPoint.

>>60594170
Oh, I didn't know Skylake is only a bit more than Ivy.

>>60594198
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6600U-vs-Intel-Core-i7-3520M/m36828vsm50

Well that happens when you use low power parts.

How do I clean my screen? I ate an orange in front of it yesterday and think it left juice streaks.

I was told when cleaning a pair of glasses you have to be careful not to rub in dirt, which will scrape against the glass and damage it. What's the procedure here?

Purchased a t450s with a TN panel for ~$250 and want to swap out for an IPS panel, need brightness controls in win7, any recommendations?

>>60595129
the brightness controls don't work?

>>60595121
>yesterday

that shit is acidic nigga you're lucky if those streaks aren't permanent

use a microfiber cloth and some windex

>>60595328
:((((((((

Is a rag good enough? Don't know what microfiber is but unless another material is coincidentally it I doubt I have it.

>>60595345
Yeah. Find a soft one. Maybe an old tshirt or something. Spit also works as a cleaner in a pinch and imo is easier not to leave streaks with.

>>60595584
Though with dried fruit you probably want chems

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>>60595345
Responding to myself here.

Honestly I had a go at it with a sort of thin not that rough cloth, and Windex. It left a lot of smudges because I don't know how to wipe a laptop screen. I was trying to be really careful, only wiping with the part of cloth I sprayed...

I think it might be OK, but I have to go another pass at it to learn how to clean it properly.

>>60595584
I can try to cut a piece of a t-shirt for use next time.

>>60595624
White coffee filters work too. They're the only thing I ever use with windex.

pls help me /g/

Budget: $1k, 1.2k max
Location: US
Size: 14.x or 15.x
Performance: dual core i7 min
Other requirements:
- 1440p min. possibly willing to upgrade panel myself.
- portable, prefer slim models. don't care if RAM is soldered.
- prefer trackpoint
- prefer not to buy used. maybe 1 year old refurb or open box or some shit.

What do?

>>60596692
ur in the wrong thread

>>60596885
>>New to /tpg/ or looking for purchasing advice? (hint: use the advice request template, it makes life easier)
>https://pastebin.com/nBqTEbHn

>>60596692
P50

>>60596692
Probably a T470/T570 if you wanna upgrade panels yourself.

T470s is slimmer but no Power bridge.

>>60597041
He wants something slim.

>>60597025
>Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.

>- prefer not to buy used. maybe 1 year old refurb or open box or some shit.

What's a t440p worth these days?

>>60597223

Anyone know if the 33% perks discount will end after memorial day?

>>60588540
>somehow quad cores in T430 is a must, everybody cums by just looking at it
>somehow same quad core with same battery capacity is bad in smaller 12,5" laptop
nice logic you got there, thinkshill

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Anyone have experience dying thinkpad keycaps?

I'd like to make a T420 keyboard have grey function keys like some older models, and I'm wondering about the way the letters/nums and functions are applied to the keys. They look almost like stickers.

Also, do UK keyboards have any real mechanical differences besides a couple of different keys compared to the US mode? I mainly asking if the switches under the keys have an identical layout.

>>60589652 here

t470 shipped today (5/26) even though it was scheduled for 6/1

will post pics when it arrives, i can't wait to see the 72wh battery

>>60597652
It's bad because most of like not having a desk or lap fire.

>>60597720
>Also, do UK keyboards have any real mechanical differences besides a couple of different keys compared to the US mode? I mainly asking if the switches under the keys have an identical layout.
Good question, because I just replaced my Scandinavian layout keyboard to US (ansi) layout in my x220 and it sure do feels a bit different.

>>60597652
The T430 doesn't normally come equipped with a QC though. And when it does, it does in fact use up more battery life. I don't get why this angers you so much.

>>60595345
Get a god damn microfiber cloth son, they suck up the dirt instead of spreading the dirt all over and making small cuts on your screen.

>>60597720
>Also, do UK keyboards have any real mechanical differences besides a couple of different keys compared to the US mode? I mainly asking if the switches under the keys have an identical layout.
Also wondering about this.

>>60597943
>lap fire
nice meme
You've never user 2570p with qc cpu.
>>60598184
>somehow using more power hungry cpu makes it use less power
nice logic shitstain

I would think they have the same switch layout.

The Uk enter key taking |\ switche(s) and the leftmost enter switch going to #

Shifts two sitches go to smaller shift and \

All an anon would have to do to prove it is pop a few keys off.

>>60598013

Do you still have the scandi?

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>>60598334

fugg

>>60597720
>>60598334
There's 3 different manufacturers of the keyboards.

I don't know if anything changes between languages though.

>>60598317
...that's...not what I said? You're really confusing me now anon. In my state, I said that the T430 normally isn't equipped with a quad core, and when it is, it uses up more of the battery life because it needs more power.

>>60598389
Stop talking nazi.
Quad cores are god tier and you're a faggot.

>>60598410
I never said quad cores weren't good, I said they're less optimal for laptops like the x220/30 that value portability more than power.

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I made a deal about getting a T430 yesterday i5-3210M 4GB ram 250 gb HDD, but the fukr backed out. I made a new deal today, T430, i5 3320M 8GB, 320 HDD, but with a broken lock on the top lid. The deal yesterday was 179 USD, the new deal was 190USD. I am still a Scandinaviafag so prices are a bit more steep here. Question is: is it possible to fix the lock on the top lid, or do I need to get a new case? Anyone have ant experience with a broken top-lid lock? Also, I saw one T430 with a broken screen, how much is that laptop worth? I am thinking of getting it and replacing the screen and keep it in the family (I've got nephews who are getting into computers, so it would make a decent gift for them, they are poor af).
Also, pic related.

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>tfw I finally upgraded out of thinkpads and got a good modern laptop

>>60598334
>Do you still have the scandi?
Yes, do you want me to pop few keys off then? I mean, its dead otherwise, but the trackpoint still werks on it.

does anyone know what models of the thinkpad T series in which 2 finger scroll works?

>>60598855
T61

>tfw fapping
>cum on keyboard accidentally
daily reminder to clean your cumpads, you wouldn't want someone else's cum on your fingers, would you?

What cheap and good SSD should I get?
I'm looking at 60 to 128GB SSDs, I'll only be using Linux and I won't have many media files to store.

>>60598539
Kek, hope you enjoyed paying a lot more for hardware that preforms the same as cheap Thinkpads

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>>60598334
Is this good enough? This is from a X220
>>60598896
I haven't had this kind of problem, but my fucking god, my z60m keyboard is just absolutely disgusting. I'm just better off buying a new keyboard on that

ok so im trying to buy a t430 but i need the 900p display. most of the listings on ebay dont include the full model number or the resolution anywhere so is there an easy way i can tell from the pictures or anything. thanks

>>60598940

Yes but under the enter key.

Also left shift and the key directly to the right of it please

>>60598926
get whatever you can find that's cheap enough.
Don't fall for the sequential meme.

random 4k is what matters for OS and programs.

>>60598940
>my z60m keyboard is just absolutely disgusting
take it apart and just clean it bruv.

xcocc homestead

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>>60599022
Now this is certainly interesting
>>60599064
>implying that I have nerve made out of steel because of potential cracks on the switch when removing them
Aside from that, what and how should I clean it? Do I just the use the dish washing to a brush the size of an toothbrush and then rub them piece by piece?

>>60598855
All of them dipshit.

>>60598998
You don't.

Buy a shit model and buy the Alienware display fo rthe same price and swap it in.

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Fuck you guys
THIS IS THE MASTER RACE

Just bought this. How did I do?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/262997072959

>>60583425
When it comes to build quality, any X60 type with LibreBoot and SSD. Every x-series model after never came close to the same durability.

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Best OS for a 32 bit thinkpad x60? I want total optimized performance, but not to the point where it's not even noticable for hours worth of work.

Arch, Gentoo or NixOS?

>>60599377
good, seems like it's in really good condition, but the ssd they threw in is pretty old

>>60599392
Gentoo or Arch. I'm running Parabola right now (Arch without non-free blobs) but I'm switching to Gentoo since I'll be doing a complete re-haul of my packages and everything else so I figured I'd give it a go.

>>60598539
Tell me what laptop you upgraded to and I will carefully explain to you why it's shit.

>>60599457
I'm leaning towards Gentoo because of number the ease of customization (Arch doesn't support that so much), and number 2 being a 32 bit means I'm a little more funky


You should try out GuixSD if you're into muh freedumbs, it's pretty fucking sick. I think NixOS and GuixSD are the F U T U R E.

But, probably going gentoo. It's time to pay my dues and become a unix mage.

>>60599624
this post is the very essence of /g/

>>60599156
isopropyl alcohol , and yes go piece by piece

>>60599457
wasn't arch dropping 32bit support?

>>60599624
Tell me what thinkpad you use and I'll give you a ten page thesis papers on why it was a waste of money.

i just bought this t430. how did i do?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430-notebook-160GB-SSD-2-6GHz-6GBRAM-/262997072959?nma=true&si=T9O8SRpcPi6VnKFaREMHFqnQhk8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

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>>60583331
What are my options if I need to buy a new thinkpad?

>>60599885
Why don't you go to Lenevo's website and find out for yourself?

>>60599737
yeah, fukn pussies

>>60599885
why a thinkpad?

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>>60584085
Raise the roof

>>60599156

Woah, not what I was expecting

It looks like the keyboards do have mechanical differences.

Can you do the left shift key to?

>>60599911
I do. but maybe /tpg/ knows something that I don't

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I was cracking open my X120e to clean the fan and I noticed this empty slot.

Is there anything cool I can do with it, or is it just for Bluetooth/WiFi?

>>60599960
I could go for a chromebook then?

>>60599885
Dell 5480.
14", trackpoint, Thunderbolt 3, Quad core cpu.
All with a 25mm z height.

Can't wait to get one used in a few years.

>>60599980

they arent quite as shit as they once were

try some out in person and see what you like

The yoga x1 with oled is pretty much the best screen on the market

>>60599980
If you've already gone there, then maybe you could give some more details about what you're looking for since otherwise all we could do is pitch each and every single Thinkpad model for you and talk about how each one would do hypothetically based on a million different use cases.

>>60599995
You could go for a MacBook Pro if you really wanted to. It depends on what you are looking for in a laptop.

>>60599987

I'm guessing that might be for WWAN. Might be possible to put something else there.

Check the manuals

>>60599987
that would be the mPCIe slot and those are antennae

WWAN/WLAN, if you're lucky it could support mSATA SSD's too

>>60599995
you have a point. I am looking for a laptop that does not break easily and be powerful enough to use programs such as CAD, photoshop, etc

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>>60599977
Here you go.

>>60600027
>>60600045
Damn, I looked it up and it's for WAN only. I was hoping I could put a mini sata ssd in there for the OS but there's apparently no way around it.

>>60598855
>thinkpad
>not using trackpint

>>60599987
>x120e
Isn't that gigantic for the size of screen it has? Nearing x220 size.

>>60600329
ya it has giant bezels

>>60600372
They could have fitted a 12.1 inch 16:10 in there, the cheap bastards.

>>60598896
What is this "cumpad" edgy maymay? Can I get a quick rundown of it? Why that urge/need to jizz on your keyboard? That's disgusting

>>60600329
The whole thing is a piece of chink shit, but I got it for $80 including drive, battery, and adapter. I ended up giving up on taking out the heatsink because the power connector for the fan is stuck. I pulled on the connector until the plastic came off and it still didn't come out.

>>60600451
>someone jacking off gets more range than they expected
>fuck, I came on my keyboard, time to sell it on eBay
>sweet! That x220 i bought is cheap! I am the memepad master!

>>60600509
>not thoroughly cleaning your memepad first thing after unboxing it
ew
optimally you'd want a brand new keyboard and trackpad sticker for it, but adds cost

>>60600451
to establish dominance in case the previous owner cummed on it

uses for an old thinkpad (like an x60 or something that old)

>xubuntu now sees the mic mute button on my T420
Huh.

>>60600756
computing

Hey I need some advice. I'm looking to doing an eGPU setup with a thinkpad laptop, and i was thinking on buying an X220 and slapping an ssd in there and setting up a r7 370 as the eGPu, now does anyone have a better recommendation for me? My budget is like $200 and dont say don't do an egpu because I literally already have everything I need, and I love thinkpad laptops. So reccomendations?

>>60600756
writing, browsing web1.0 sites

>>60600451
>fapping to tranny porn
>cumming
>drops of semen fall ok keyboard
>wew lad, now that's what I call a cumpad!
>sell it on bay
?????
>some /g/entoomen buys it
>profit

>>60601042
you should grab

>dell e6440/e6430

or

>hp 2560/2570

for any egpu setup.

>>60601159
>dell e6440
Can you tell me why partner

>>60601191
thinkpads suck for egpu set ups

>>60601265
Then what makes the hp and the dell good that's what I'm asking

>>60601301
Simply because the thinkpads get bitchy when doing using EGPUs.

Also IIRC the 5Gbps expresscard slot on the elitebook and latitude are faster than the one on the thinkpads.

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help

what software to clone hard drive

specifically from a samsung ssd to an hdd

samsung's data migration only wants to go to another samsung ssd

>>60590475
It is WP on some datasheets and PROT on others. But the blog post tells you which number pins it in on each kind of chip.

>>60601986
cloning drives is dumb.

Unless you need to save data from a dailing drive.

>>60602139
i would rather not reinstall windows and everything else again, along with old settings and registry things I've changed a long time ago and don't remember now

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>>60583425
X220 and T420, about 6 years ago. Thank you for reading

>>60602216
>i would rather not reinstall windows and everything else again, along with old settings and registry things I've changed a long time ago and don't remember now
enjoy your bloat

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>>60602452
that's the point retard I've already gotten rid of all the bloat and optimized everything how I want it

>>60600756
donating to a fellow /g/entoomen

>>60602524
>I've already gotten rid of all the bloat and optimized everything how I want it
that's not how shit works retard

>>60602852
actually that's exactly how things work

>>60602852
Jesus christ dude stop being such a shithead to this guy. He asked a simple question and he didn't want to do it the way you're suggesting, he specifically asked how to do something and you're calling him a shithead for not wanting it the way you do.

Be kind.

>>60583425
Unpopular opinion for this thread, but they never really stopped being good. They stopped being great, but as far as computers go today the Thinkpad's are still pretty great.

>>60600127

thank you

not very surprising in this case

new thread

>>60603069