Why is there no open source linux phone without android or ios?

>>60575918
open source on mobile is dead. no one cares about phones.

>>60575918
You would get arrested too often if anyone saw that shit in your hands.

>>60575918
does it have e911 shit? I dont want no tracky by the feds

>>60576145
You're right. I forgot about that. So I guess I'll get a tablet.

>>60575918
>lineage os - proprietary libraries
For the phone hardware?

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>>60576171
I think this is like Stallman saying that Debian is nonfree because it let's you install proprietary stuff (if you want!) and that is sacrilegious to the gnus.

>>60575918
You could mount that in an old walkie talkie.

Can you make a call on a pc or laptop with a sim card? Like a usb thing? I'd like to just use a laptop and run linux or whatever. Anything would be better than having to buy a phone at the mall.

>>60575918
I was planning on testing plasma-mobile, but you are right, the last update was december 2016.
It uses technologies that is updated more often, so I don't know how the update process is.
Android is designed to be restrictive for the user and I wouldn't mind switching to something else.
We need to get rid of the ROM paradigm if we want phones to be secure.

>>60576388
Completely agree with you. I want a phone that I can sudo update. I don't want to be stuck with a ROM that deleted everything everytime I manually update it.

>accidentally touch open curcuitry
50 dollaroos down the shitter.

>>60576230
It's not just that, lineage OS has lots of blobs, Replicant tries to remove it but it still has to use some blobs to make calls, a smartphone that is libre as X200 just not possible

>raspberry pi
>open source
kek

>>60575918
I'm in the same boat OP, I want a fully open source tablet. It's ultimately a hardware problem. You could root a phone /tablet and format it but there will be no Linux distro that will have compatible drivers for the specific phone/tablet.

>>60576526

I distinctly remember reading that the Rpi is fully open source.

>>60576784
I thought x86 non ARM netbooks/tablets work with distros?

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>>60575918
what is the point?
a cellphone is a tracking device per se

>>60576145
Why? do you live in a shithole?

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>>60575918
This is an open source car that's powered by a outboard motor.
It runs on wooden wheels and you can make one for yourself using parts worth $50. One can use it to travel 2km, load a sack of potatoes, and pull something, Soon, car's crowfunding is also expected to go live.

There is a fsf approved android ROM called replicant they recently updated it to marshmallow. It only runs on some specific devices though. And even if you had a fully foss ROM your gsm provider can still compromise your privacy and security.

>>60577013
>I thought x86 non ARM netbooks/tablets work with distros?

Although technically true, x86 2in1 and tablets are pretty much non existent.

>>60577156
>>60577478
So basically you need a nearly non-existent x86 tablet without cellular data or gps, just wifi.

>>60575918
Congratulations. You now have an ugly, easily breakable, poor performing device that is going to fail due to an unlimited number of factors including water damage and bend damage.
also the screen is shit.

>>60576159
I always make the 911 operator pull my gps coords instead of fucking around with google maps trying to figure out where I am

>>60577697
>without cellular data or gps

Even if it does have that you could easily disable them. It's having hardware compatible drivers that's important.
You could build your own tablet/phone from a Rpi by adding a touch screen from their store. It won't be as aesthetic/slim as a regular tablet and will have a higher $/performance cost but at least it will be open source.

>>60576007

Err, LineageOS?

>>60578174

>Since that time, LineageOS has been described as highly popular and forcibly developed; within 4 months from the initial announcement, LineageOS development builds covered 152 models of phone, and over a million users, having doubled its user base in the month February–March 2017.[7]

Not bad.

https://m.youtube.com/results?q=raspberry%20tablet%20phone%20&sm=3

>>60577175
>Why?
Probably because it looks like a home made detonator.

If I could make a wish: I'd like a chocolate bar sized, haswell i5 level fast x86 device with a good attachable keyboard, basically a small surface pro with a custom os on it

And I'm sure such a device is coming within 3 years though I'm not sure of its success since consumer touch-only devices are driving people away from actual computers.

>>60578900
>since consumer touch-only devices are driving people away from actual computers

This is exactly why having open source tablets will become more and more important.

>>60576784
Binary blobs for gpu means the rasping is nonfree. No sbc is certified free according to fsf

>>60577697

>x86

horrible architecture and ME still isn't fixed

>>60578661
what is a case?

>>60575918
>cool clock ahmed

that is why

>>60583461
>>60580972

>>60575918
Freetardation isn't profitable in any way whatsoever

>Why is there no open source linux phone

Because, astonishingly, NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR 0.001% NICHE FREETARD SHIT. You can never even be 'free' with a mobile phone unless you create your own carrier too, what's the fucking point of all of this when in the end you cancel all the autistic shit you did and connect to an average cell tower that tracks you?

Freetards are the biggest fucking idiots.

>>60578900
>'real computers' are not allowed to have a touch screen

>>60580720

They said they'll release an open source gpu driver for a few years now. They haven't done it already?
Anyway, tbf a gpu blob isn't really a problem as long as you have control over the rest of the hardware.

>>60578661

It looks like a printed circuit board with some buttons and an LCD. Nothing on it looks like it's connected to explosives.

>>60576230
>Ubuntu has that option too

Isn't that just java/flash?

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>>60575918
sounds cool, but my levels of autism are very low, maybe in a future could try it like a personal project

>>60584295
learn to read the thread. this is already discussed that a tablet/netbook x86 with debian is an alternative as stated in the op.

>>60584573
>Ubuntu has that option too
that's why ubuntu is a nonfree gnu linux os.

>>60575918
Isn't AOSP entirely open source? wanting a non android phone with no apps is autstic

>>60577156
a hardware switch to disable cellular functionality makes that less of an issue.