Hey /g/ have you gotten Ryzen yet? I'm thinking of getting

>>60540115
just get the 1600 and overclock it, the 1600x is just for people too dumb to overclock a 1600 or not willing to bet on the silicon lottery

Yeh, it just came in today but my am4 upgrade kit for my heatsink don't come in till thursday

>>60540115
get at least 1700

>>60540115
i bought a 1800x. pretty gud m8. love it.

>>60540115
Not worth 450 dollars since all I do is play Arma and use Photoshop and I'm not limited on performance

>>60540115
I got it, I like it, gave new life to my 390 after i72600, no kidding, didn't expect that. Thought it would be just sidegrade for two more cores on the cheap - it's not.
And i'm not even running memory at 3200 yet just stock 2133, gigabyte get your shit together already dammit. Imagine things will get only better.

>>60540817
My 1800x gets 120fps while playing Arma 3. I do of course have a powerful GPU, and run over 1080p like most gamers. Arma 3 benefits from more cores, and strong GPU like any other game. Ryzen is made for games like Arma 3 especially if you intend to stream.

>>60540311
There is a problem with that, you see 1600x runs 3.7 out of box at ~1.2v some do lower, 1600 runs same voltage at 3.3-3.4 and 4.0 at 1.45v 70C

you can keep 1600x under 100w at 4.0
1600 goes into 110w at 4.0

$30 is not that much to keep the thing cool
if you can't afford a cooler, then sure, go 1600

>>60540817
RYZEN plays Arma 3 just fine. The developer just pushed a new update that renders all old benchmarks made obsolete. All those old benchmarks that you saw on YouTube were made with early bios, and un-updated windows. This doesn't matter anyways because no one plays that old as game anymore. I don't understand why I have to see people even post about this shit game whenever RYZEN pops up.

>>60541054
>Arma 3 benefits from more cores
anon, it runs on two cores
arma has shit engine.

>>60541143
last bastion of defense.
it's really hard shilling against solid facts.

>>60540817
Intel shillord detected.

>>60540817
other choice is stuttering housefire

>>60540115
No I haven't on ivy waiting for zen+. excited for the new apu though, I might make a sff htpc with one.
>>60541183
>everyone has a 1080ti and a high refresh display

>>60540817
Arma 3 is an outlier. It's the only game out that doesn't run as well as it does on an overclocked i7-7700k house fire. This game shouldn't even be mentioned because the developers have always favors Intel, and Nvidia. Probably a backroom deal between Jews.

>>60541210
>implying you need high refresh rate to notice stutter

>>60541245

Or they're just incompetent?

>>60540115
>Hey /g/ have you gotten Ryzen yet?

No my 4690k is fine for the time being. Might consider ryzen alongside Intel's offerings when I decide to upgrade in a couple years time.

>>60541054
>Bullshit: the post

>>60541449
This, regular Arma player here. The game maxes out one core and barely uses a second one. You really need a high single core performance.

Might as well respond to all of these
>>60541054
This just isn't true at all. Arma 3 has a terrible engine and cannot spread the load properly over anything more than 4 cores
>>60541143
Sure It runs Arma fine but not as well as my current CPU which still even has issues cause the engine sucks shit even with all it's patches
>>60541159
Not defending anything, I am autistic and only play Arma and use photoshop for work
>>60541168
Not even close to a shill either, I'm not telling anyone to buy anything, I'm just answering OPs question. I would love to get Ryzen, I'm just stating that as of now I do not have a need for it and spending 450 dollars on it would not be beneficial to me.
>>60541183
My CPU never goes over 55C, kabylake is the only housefire I'm aware of and I don't own a 7700k, nor do I ever sutter. I have a 4k monitor cause photoshop
>>60541245
Yeah it should never ever be used as a benchmark or any sort of performance metric ever, hence why I'm only mentioning it personally. The devs don't favor Nvidia at all, that's why they kicked out gameworks

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>>60541519
(you)

>>60541575
Actually gonna correct the stutter part really quick
I do stutter in Arma when aiming in a sniper scope, but I think that happens to alot of people. As for any other casual game I play I am kinda capped at 60hz so I don't notice anything since my GPU keeps everything at 60 constantly, no bad frametimes.

>>60541610
It's completely true though
Notice how at 4k cores, everything is spread decently, nice load metric. Then with 4 cores 8 threads shit starts to get a little odd, then complete 8 cores it isn't even trying anymore. Happens with 6 cores 8 cores, anything above just 4

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>>60541646
>>60541610
Forgot to attach image

>>60541355
an i7 won't be at 100% unless you're at max settings >120fps. You get hitching when the gpu isn't saturated. By your logic
6c/12t+=no stuttter butter
4c/8t=Stutterfire™
4c/4t=chops like a Ginsu®
2c/4t= :( Your PC ran into a problem it couldn't handle, and now it needs to restart.

>>60541709
I've monitored my CPU when playing GTA 5 and during gameplay I never go above 40% usage on really any cores. The only time I hit 100 is loading screens
t. 60hz cuck

>>60540115
no need, sandy bridge is still enough

>>60540115
I pre-ordered Ryzen back in late February.

Still haven't been able to use it yet. Motherboard didn't arrive until last week, and the HSF I got didn't come with the right bracket which I didn't find out about until the motherboard arrived. Maybe that'll arrive this week?

Waiting is what you do when you buy AMD.

>>60541771
Which heatsink and motherboard?

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>gaming
Just get the 7700k and shit on everyone with an amd

>>60540115
way too expensive, I'll stick with my 8350, unless I find a cheap dual 2011 board

>>60541809
But does anyone really play tomb raider at 175 FPS?

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>>60540115
OP here's 1600x ryzen vs 7700k intel

1600x system is $123 cheaper. (Here in Canada the difference is even bigger - $215 CAD, or $160 USD)

I guarantee you that putting the $120 bucks into a better graphics card will do significantly more to improve gaming performance than the 5% or whatever difference between the 1600x and 7700k in singlethreaded gaming performance.

(And that's not counting paying for delidding the 7700k...)

>>60540115
No, bought a 2600K off Ali, OCed to 4.2, seems to be doing fine.

>>60541865
Well yeah but isn't the 1600x supposed to compete withe the i5s?
I feel like if someone was going to ditch their 7700k they would want a 1700x right?
I would ditch my 6700k for an 1800x just because I like to have whatever the top tier is

>>60541865
>(And that's not counting paying for delidding the 7700k...)
Razer blade and liquid metal?

>>60541835
240hz monitors are becoming the high refresh standard in less than 1 year

>>60541900
Yeah but tomb raider?

>>60541900
any excuse to stay at low res garbage i see

>>60541887
Are those free?

>>60541865
Of course you picked the cheapest b350 amd board against the most expensive z270 chipset on the intel side, totally not biased

>Ryzen

As if next years Intel chips wont be leagues above next years AMD chips. They literally caught up once and they are still just miniature PC heaters.

Stop memeing please. this is 2017.

>>60541887
they think you have to send it into a professional
delidding XXX-lake processors is easy as shit. The silicon glue is so thin and there are no capacitors under the IHS to worry about

>>60541924
I would call Intel housefires 'miniature' PC heaters

>>60541943
wouldn't*

>>60541913
About 15 burger bucks for some liquid metal
Razorblades are pretty much free, can pick one up from the post office

>>60541925
>is easy as shit
sure is when it's held in place by cheap shitty silicon and toothpaste, thanks intel

>>60540311
If you want a better chance at higher clocks the X variants are more likely.
Often with $10-20 difference I see no reason at this point to cheap out on them.

Ryzen 7 1700
93% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.376V
70% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.408V
20% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.440V

Ryzen 7 1700X
100% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.360V
77% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.392V
33% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.424V

Ryzen 7 1800X
100% reach 3.8GHz (assumed)
97% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.376V
67% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.408V
20% reach 4.1GHz @ 1.440V

>>60541915
1. That's not the cheapest b350 board
2. That's the board I'm going with on my 1600x build for real
3. That's not the most expensive z270 board either

intelfag in denial?

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>>60542002
>1.440v

>>60541995
Actually the TIM is the hardest part about it
The silicon glue is basically like rubber, flexible so it doesn't fuck up the PCB in manufacturing. The TIM is actually stickier than the silicon. I remember when I took apart my 4790k for shits and giggles it was pretty stuck. I had to use a blow drier

>>60540115
>Hey /g/ have you gotten Ryzen yet?
No, I use condoms.

>>60541925
>>60541960
I don't think either of you understand. It doesn't matter if you do it yourself, unless you happen to have that shit laying around, which most people don't; it's going to cost extra money to delid. It is not "do it for free" levels of performance like an AMD microcode update :^)

>>60541809
b-b-but they'll patch it, AMD is a new arch while Intel is shitting out the same one for 6 years

>>60542020
The fact that you have to delid at all is the issue here

>>60542032
>the same one for 6 years
try 11

>>60542037
The only processor you kinda HAVE to delid is the 7700k
Like I said I only did it to mine just for fun, to actually be able to say "yeah I've done it before" so I could later charge my friends for their kabylake delids, was worth it. Only takes about 10 minutes

>>60542052
Ivy Bridge was a housefire too

I have a 1700X. I would Reccomend the 1600X for overclockers, the 1700 for most people, and the 1800X for enthusiasts with too much money.

AMD did a reasonable job of binning their CPU's and the 1600X/1800X do actually overclock better that the other chips on average.

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>>60542052
Highest OC? 5.3 here

>>60542059
No it wasn't
Ivy bridge didn't have thermal issues, the only mentions of housefires I've seen are from here.

>>60542082
IT was a space heater compared to Sandy Bridge, which was the last time Intel ever had a significant improvement over a previous generation

>>60540115
>1600x
Probably a good bang for the buck but you should consider the 1600.

The 1600x is a 95W part and the 1600 is a 65W part.

If noise, specially noise, and power usage are important to you then the 1600 is the obvious choice. Just so you get where I'm coming from; I have a 65W CPU with a gigantic Pure Rock cooler rated for 140W. I've set the fan to spin at 50C. It starts spinning slowly if I tax all CPU-cores at full load for more than 20 minutes (video encoding and so on). I'm not buying a CPU with a TDP above 65W again, passive cooling most of time time and a so quiet fan I barely hear it if I listen for it under full load is something I'm not moving away from.

>>60542092
Then why does amd perform like shit in comparasion to Intel today?

>>60541880
>Well yeah but isn't the 1600x supposed to compete withe the i5s?
What do you need six cores for? r5 is more than enough.

>>60542103
There's a reason that siliconlottery doesn't sell the 1600. They just don't clock as high as the 1600X.

>>60542111
>Moshi moshi! Baito des!

>>60541960
Even then, how confident are you that you won't scratch or crush the die?
Can you afford a second attempt, because intel won't reimburse you for mutilating the chip.

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>>60542120
Look at the benchmarks 7700k shits on any amd chip in any game without gpu bottlenecks

>>60542111
(You)

>>60542142
Hello, yes, this is bait.

>>60542134
If you're a dumb nigger who can't delid his chip without breaking it you deserve it

>>60542142
not even 240p what are you doing

>>60542163
>>>/v/

>>60541880
The 1600x is 1700/1800 single-threaded performance but fewer cores so less multithreaded performance. There's no reason to go 1700+ if you're looking for gaming. That's purely workstation or splurging.

So comparing the 7700k to the 1700 and 1800 is fucking retarded, which is probably why all the intel fanboys and shills do it. The actual performance comparisons should be between the 1600x / 1600 vs the 7700k / 7700.

And in that case, the 1600x/1600 gets virtually the same singlethreaded gaming performance as the 1800x/1700 vs the 7700k, but also gets better performance virtually everywhere else outside of gaming AND it costs $120+ LESS.

Intelfags are paying an extra hundred plus bucks to get just slightly better gaming performance (and usually in games unoptimized for ryzen at that!) out of their CPU when they could literally use the money saved with ryzen to buy a better GPU. No question about it, 1600x + better GPU means you get substantially better gaming performance (better min frametimes too), and then the 1600x's better multithreaded performance means you do better in everything that isn't videogames on top of it.

Literally the ONLY reason to buy a 7700k is if money isn't a concern and you're just going balls out, which is like 0.0001% of the market.

>>60542168
>>>r_/le.amd/
>>>/shittingstreet/

>>60542154
The die can break by just trying to divorce the IHS from the die with all silicon fully removed.
They're fragile as fuck. You're not fooling anyone.

>>60542175
stop posting dumb newfag

>>60542134
It's incredibly Easy
it's actually a full inch from the edge of the heatspreader to the side of the die
As long as you aren't spastic then it's a piece of cake. No force required

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>>60542172
>1600/1700 same single core performance as 7700k

Lul no

>>60542183
>he shills intel for free
ranjesh it's time to leave

>>60542191
>memes vs benchmarks

Dumb shitskin

>>60542183
>intelshill can not even read

>>60542198
>video games
>cpu benchmarks
pick one

>>60542191
>Indian
>Intel

That's amd. An Intel shill would be a Goldberg.

>>60542183
good job trying to trick us intel shill, those are the thermals of each cpu

housefires strike again

>>60542183
Do you not realize you literally just proved his point?

He didn't say the 1600x was the same performance as the 7700k you fucking retard pajeet, he said the 1600x was the same gaming performance as the 1800x which your shitty cherrypicked chart literally proves for him.

Which only further makes the point he was making. Holy fuck you stupid idiot you literally btfo yourself

>>60542204
>indian intelectuals

>>60542217
>1800x reaching 93 degrees
jesus

>>60542212
a paid shill would be goldberg, the jews can trick the pajeet minds very easily into shilling them for free

>>60542225
>7700k minimum 102c
DELID THIS

>>60542219
You can't buy a gpu better than a 1080ti and get performance higher than a 7700k poojet

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>>60542059
A little warm maybe but not a housefire. old 212 non evo, 3550 binned to max with 103.7 bclk bump.
>>60542082
3770k when cranked to the max gets toasty
>>60542092
hotter than and on fire is a pretty big spread.

>>60542134
What? Intel posted that they understand why people delid and warranty covers delidded CPUs as long as you return with original ihs. IMO they should solder, but whatever.

>>60542236
>You can't buy a gpu better than a 1080ti
yes you can
>>60542236
>and get performance higher than a 7700k
yes everyone on earth knows 7700k has the best stuttering in the industry

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>kaby lake is literally the new 3.5gb

>>60542254
Don't bother with this >>60542267
Just a falseflag, don't waste your time

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>>60542182
Of course you're going to say that it's 'easy'. Because you're only after a sale. You don't give a fuck if one of us blows hundreds on a chip, only to break it before it's even installed.

>>60542253
[citation needed]

>>60542253
intel don't even cover overclocking in warranty in what bizarre world would they ever cover delidding

>>60540947
>I got it, I like it, gave new life to my 390 after i72600, no kidding, didn't expect that. Thought it would be just sidegrade for two more cores on the cheap - it's not.
>And i'm not even running memory at 3200 yet just stock 2133, gigabyte get your shit together already dammit. Imagine things will get only better.

Can you elaborate? I am also running an i7-2600k @ 4.6 Ghz with an RX480 and am eyeing upgrading to a Ryzen 1700 system, but I don't really yet see the need. Is there really a positive synergy between Ryzen and Radeon?

>>60542277
No you're right, I don't care if other people break their chips. Let them deal with the RMA process
I'm just saying that it's incredibly easy. I never ever watched a video on it or anything, just cut the silicon and put some grizzly on it. Washing it was a little hard though as the isopropyl I was using was kinda shitty.

>>60542293
They claim Nvidia gimps Ryzen so gotta buy an AMD gpu and you'll get 1080 performance

>>60542002
>20% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.440V
damn, thats pretty pathetic. Whats with the frequencies of both intel and amd being slower than before?

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gave my fury x a new life when switching from xeon 1231v3

>>60542317
It's an old stat, like three months ago. Should be better now.

>>60542291
[citation needed]

>>60542002
So if we go by ~70% range its 100mhz for $154.
Even at the end of the curves it's 300mhz, t h r e e hundred.
>4100/3800 is 8%
>460/306 is 50%
spend the money elsewhere.

>>60542183
>>60542142
>>60541809
LOL why would anyone spend more on a ryzen when you can buy an i7 for less? And it has more cores to yet still can't achieve higher frames over an i7
I'll never understand AMD fags

>>60542424
falseflag better

>>60542424
They think they're "pioneers" of technology by buying something new that's still a piece of poo and then shill their shit when buyers remorse hits them

>>60540115
Getting a 1800x soon for muh multi-tasking.

I'm just curious how overwhelmed I'll be considering I'm jumping from a tri core Athlon

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>>60542458
Enjoy getting shit on by an i3

>>60542424
Not sure if bait, shilling or legitimate stupidity, though i must say I believe in the latter

>>60542317
14nm just isn't as mature as 32nm was

>>60542309
The claim is based on AMD not working with manufacturers on anything during release.

AMD pretty much dicked everyone around when ryzen released, and blamed them for not being optimised for ryzen. They blamed m$, motherboard manufacturers, custom cooling vendors, and even reviewers. Microsoft was able to wave their big fat dick around, and forced AMD to swallow the cum load of blame in regards to windows 10.

>>60542475
>muh gayms

Kill yourself, haven't played a game in years and the only ones i probably would be tempted to are some strategy ones that would run perfectly in wine anyways if they're not already lifted ported.

>>60542458
>odd number of cores
Always pissed me off why they did that

>>60542475
Fucking christ. You should be ashamed of yourself for being both this obvious and retarded.

>>60542532
It's gimped, it's technically a quad core but i never messed around with the bios

>>60542486
Quit being so delusional, Ryzen failed hard. More cores and can't even beat an i7 that has less

>>60542475
No one plays that shit game. It's a shit coded engine, and probably the result of some backroom deal with Intel.

>>60542317
At least AMD is using high density libraries for those transistors. Your chips are smaller, therefore the yield is higher, but you cant overclock that much. Guess reliable 4GHz only come with the next iteration of Zen.

>>60542551
What the fuck are you talking about kike? R7 beats any Intel counterparts from miles away.

Don't even bring up games, R7 wasn't even targeted at people who only game, there's a difference between gaming, multitasking, content creation etc.

If you're going to shill, at least stop being so obvious and do it when it matters. No sane people would buy a 6900k instead of 1800x with very few exceptions, and those people don't care about money in general because they're looking for very specific features on the platform.

>>60542549

What game is this?

>>60542475
kek, no i3 is going to shit on a 1800x in multi-tasking.

>>60542163
>i7 7700k - 108
>i7 6700k - 92

wut

>>60542668
Watch Dogs
I hate ubisoft benchmarks, their games always run like shit

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>>60542560
>IT'S NVIDIAS FAULT
>IT'S WINDOWS FAULT
>IT'S GAMES FAULT
>IT'S INTELS FAULT
>IT'S DRIVERS FAULT
>IT'S REVIEWERS FAULT

>>60542750
>>60542764

>>60542764
>IT'S NVIDIAS FAULT
>[s]IT'S WINDOWS FAULT[/s]
>IT'S GAMES FAULT
>IT'S INTELS FAULT
>IT'S DRIVERS FAULT
>IT'S REVIEWERS FAULT

>>60541054
>Arma 3
An i3 gets more fps than the 6900k, that engine is complete shit

>>60542807
Meant to strike through "it's windows fault".

>>60542804
I actually meant in general, I don't even use AMD
retard

>>60542475
>muh gaymen

>it's windows fault
The scheduler acts like this on purpose to even the charge out on all cores and reduce power consumption.
Because the "data fabric" in ryzen is a bottleneck in itself doesn't mean window's scheduler is buggy or whatever. It's a limitation of the CPU not of the windows scheduler.

>>60541900
>1080p@60hz is still a standard
>Next year it's going to be 4k@240hz trust me guys
Fucking moron.

>>60540115
get the 1600 non x.
x version is a meme.

>>60542515
>tfw waiting for ace combat 7 and ffxii remaster that's about it

>>60543013
That is not exactly how Windows Scheduler works with NUMA nodes, if it did, nobody would use Windows for servers.

>>60542317
>>60542495
it's 14nm LPP
>Low Power Plus
that's what you get when you meme'd the housefire too much.

>>60543084
I'm just gonna play some paradox games, CS and other oldies just for the comfyness

The Biostar X370GTN is finally available.

but it's Biostar...

get it y/n ?

i don't need to update my cpu, it's funny that my old i3 is enough even for a gtx1070 in most games
i would rather buy a gtx1070 than a ryzen + gtx1060

>>60543190
>The Biostar X370GTN is finally available.

>but it's Biostar...

DESU you fucked up the moment you decided to go and, so Mobo brand is the least of your worries. I'd choose this board with the x370 over any b350.

>get it y/n ?

Sure have at it.

>>60543238
Fuck my phone autocorrected to "desu". I need to reassess my life now. Also *AMD.

>>60543219
seems pointless, it's going to bottleneck.
my i5 3570 is bottlenecking my 1060, it runs great a lot of the time and I can push up the settings at 1080p, even do some DSR.
But then the CPU hits 100% and I get massive drops.
I can't play games like that.

>>60542549
>not even looking at the same area

o baby

>>60542475
by an i3...

>in Total Warhammer (???)

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>>60543278
>my i5 3570 is bottlenecking my 1060
well my brother has a 1060 with a i5 2400 and it runs pretty smooth on for example gta 5
maybe you're just playing games that don't properly work even on i5 6600 (pic related, i love gamegpu for doing all these tests)

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>>60543311
Could have been worse.

>>60543318
GTAV is specifically one of the games that the bottlenecking happens.
I did some monitoring, the CPU goes to 100% when there's a massive hitch and the GPU isn't even breaking a sweat.

Your brother either spends all his time staring at strippers in first person, or he has the distance and grass dialed way down.

>>60543333
i tested gta 5 on the highest settings on his pc and there were no problems, only some frame drops when you blow everything up but that was probably the 1060 and not the cpu because there was no lag
i don't know, maybe it depends on something else, he has windows 7

>>60542183
>all the intel CPUs are overclocked to 4.8GHz

>>60543348
I'm using W10 but that should offer better performance if anything (I remember specifically when I upgraded to 10 the framerate got smoother).

My CPU is definitely running at 100% in some games when drops occur.

>>60543349
Just overclock the ryzen CPUs to 4.8GHz, then, problem solved.

>>60541575
>The devs don't favor Nvidia at all, that's why they kicked out gameworks
Bullshit.
They do and gameworks is still in the game.

>>60542002
>10-20 difference
Topkek. It's more like 50 which isn't worth. Also no cooler.

>>60543513
Meant with sales.
>Also no cooler.
While they're good enough to overclock with, most will get a aftermarket cooler anyways. Because they're overclocking.

>>60543391
MOAR GIGAHURTZ

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>>60543391
ok

>>60543525
If you already have a cooler and the 1600X is on sale i agree, but otherwise the 1600 and a decent cooler from the saved money will be better.

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>>60543605
1.275 v, and off color core speed.

>>60543668
>off color core speed.
No it's not. Numbnuts.

>>60541809
>>60542019
>>60542076
>>60542142
>>60542163
>>60542183
>>60542475
>>60542764

Go away img_xxxx
Nobody believes you have a 5.3 GHz 7700K either

>>60543679
Poorfag normie detected.

This thread has been shit on by infamous benchmark spammer IMG_xxxx who has been running around shitting all over threads for months now. Mods banned him a few times for spamming the exact same cherrypicked old benchmarks dozens of times.

>>60543605
Good then.

>>60543684
See
>>60537071

>>60543684
He's that much of a shilling faggot.

>>60543696
This is the nature of the paid or shill or retard who does it for free.

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>>60541809
And then you woke up.

>>60541809
>gaming
>Just get the 7700k and shit on everyone with an amd
Hello 2016, 2017 wants you to leave.

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>>60541924
>Just Wait(TM) for Intel!
LMAO

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>>60542111
LOL

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>>60542142
Stop lying.

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>>60542163

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>>60542475
Nice cherry picking.

>>60542497
>Source: My ass

>>60543717
>>60543754
>>60543765
>>60543768
>>60543775

Welcome back pajeet. Did you just start your shift, and how was your weekend off?

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>>60542551

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>>60542750
Well, not quite always

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>>60542764
Too bad there is objective proof that is IS Nvidia"s fault.

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>>60543717
>>60543754
>>60543765
>>60543768
>>60543775
>>60543793
>>60543799
>>60543816
>>60543831
>>60543838
DELETE THIS, GOY

>Arma 3
>DCS
>Total War
>Cities Skyline

Pajeet will say:
>muh games are shit.
>muh bad coding
>hurr durr backdoor deal
>hurr durr outliers
>*cum spilling from mouth* no players
>future games

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>>60543813

>>60543868
When an i3 performs better thanthe 6900k then the game engine is complete shit, period.

>>60543896
When an i3 outperforms all amd CPUs then all amd CPUs are shit. These i3s don't outperform existing i5s, or i7s, so what does that tell you?

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>>60541887
>>60541960
>>60541925
>>60542020
>>60542052
>intelshills actually reccomending delidding

>>60543838
>>60543831
>>60543816
>>60543799
Nice gpu bottleneck pajeet

>>60543929
Doesn't change the fact that the engine is complete shit

>>60543896
see
>>60543868

Welcome back Poojeet. We've been expecting you.

>>60543311
That's a pre-patch benchmark. And the patch was released more than a month ago. That's how old and shit the benchmarks img_xxxx likes to spam over and over. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/game-patches-boost-performance-on-ryzen-showing-just-what-can-and-cant-be-done/

>>60543937
Intelshills are the most retarded lifeforms in the entire universe, news at 11.

>>60543944
Totaly has nothing to do with intels arch being incapable of handling higher resolutions resulting in lower frame rates, that would be crazy. That's why you must test at lower resolutions where raw Ghz is the limiting factor.

>>60543813
>>60543868
>>60543940
>>60543945
Go away img_xxxx

>>60543975
Opps, meant for
>>60543940

>>60543957
Oops that was the wrong link. https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/247141-total-war-warhammer-will-also-receive-ryzen-patch

>>60543975
>test cpu performance
>by bottlenecking them with GPUs

Dumb indian

>>60542103

Have old 125W cpu with shitty $15 two pipe cooler and fan barely spins during normal tasks.

Just use AC fans than can share common pwm signal, draw your fan curve in speedfan and you'll have near silent pc even with cheapest components and high wattage cpu.

>IMG_xxxx
Into the trash you go.

>>60543996
Explain why Ryzen gets more FPS at those resolutions than Intel then.

>>60544006
Because pootel is for 640x480 gayming

>>60544006
It gets the same FPS because you're bottlenecking both CPUs with a piece of poo rx480

Accurate foreshadowing.

>>60542807
>IT'S NVIDIAS FAULT
>IT'S WINDOWS FAULT
>IT'S GAMES FAULT
>IT'S INTELS FAULT
>IT'S DRIVERS FAULT
>IT'S REVIEWERS FAULT

>>60542497
>AMD pretty much dicked everyone around when ryzen released, and blamed them for not being optimised for ryzen. They blamed m$, motherboard manufacturers, custom cooling vendors, and even reviewers.

Welcome back Poojeep. Congrats on not blowing yourself up over the weekend.
>>60543957
>>60543944

>>60544017
Ryzen 64fps

Intel 57fps

If it's maxed out, then why are the scores so different.

>>60544021
Try harder, Goldberg

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>>60543940
The only GPU bottleneck is from Nvidia's poorly multi-threaded drivers.

>>60544032
Because Ryzen is smoother and much better than shitty corelet stuttering housefires.

>>60544040
See
>>60542764
>IT'S NVIDIAS FAULT

>>60544064
At least he has proof.

>>60543868
Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that there are specific use cases where a 7700k is still best option is a literal shill.

If the only use case you care about are 1080p or less DX11 games with horrible engine threading at high refresh rates (e.g. Arma 3 at 1080p at 120hz) then the 7700k is the right choice.

It's just that the above describes a tiny number of people. If you use your PC for literally anything else than the above a Ryzen CPU is a better choice.

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>>60544074
IT'S A CONSPIRACY

>>60544083
So you're denying reality?

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>>60544058
>>60544064
One of us has objective evidence, and the other has evidence free shitposts. That speaks for itself.

>>60544058
No, that score is actually evidence of nVidia limiting to four cores. Given the Ghz of each, that's exactly what you'd expect to see.
Fuck you're retarded.

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>>60544083

>>60544074
Samefagg says that he has "proof".

Pajeet very skilled at shadow clone jutsu.

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>>60544100
How about using some real world application benchmarks, shekelchaser? Oh right, the 7700k gets fucking WRECKED in those.

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>>60544082
>It's just that the above describes a tiny number of people. If you use your PC for literally anything else than the above a Ryzen CPU is a better choice

>>60544100
Then how comes Ryzen shits on all Intel CPUs in productivity benchmarks?

>>60544021
>>60544058
>>60544083
>>60544100
Go away IMG_xxxx

Although that last spammed benchmark is a new one, abeit completely out of context. lol https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Ryzen-Memory-Latencys-Impact-Weak-1080p-Gaming

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>>60544113
That 7700k shits on poo 1800x with twice as many cores

>>60544103
Jesus Christ you're pathetic.

>>60544058
I'd rather have less FPS than Intel Stutter(tm) on my games.

>>60544140
This desu

>>60544140
That's why poozen stutters>>60544100

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>>60544130
Nope

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>>60544130
>>60544140
St-tu-tt-er-ing you say?

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>>60544170
>power consumtion

>>60544140
Stutters are less obvious when your shit and CPU can't hit higher frames.

I mean dropping to 25 fps from 29fps is less noticeable than dropping 125intel fps to 75fps. The latter could be fixed with faster ram, but the only way to fix and issues is to trash the entire build, and buy a Pentium.

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>>60544150

>>60544187
Now try again in English.

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>>60544181
You can play this card as many times as you want smelly shitskin, no one falls for your gpu bottleneck tests

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>>60544182
Power consumption you say?

>>60544187
Oh no, I can only run my game at 100fps instead of 110fps. Intel wins again!

>The stuttering is a feature.

Just accept your team lost this round. AMD has lost hard before, sometimes Intel does too.

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>>60544199
Cry more, shekelchaser.

Is IMG_XXXX the buffoon of /g/?

>>60544199
You still haven't answered.
If it's bottlenecked, why does Rzen get more frames?

>>60544205
STUTTERING IS A FEATURE

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>>60544205
>Intel lost this round

Lul no

Holy fucking shit mods gas this thread please.

>>60544187
>Stutters are less obvious when your shit A.M.D. CPU can't hit frames above 29fps.

>I mean dropping to 25 fps from 29fps is less noticeable than dropping 125 intel fps to 75 intel fps. The latter could be fixed with faster ram, but the only way to fix A.M.D CPU issues is to trash the entire build, and buy a more powerful Intel Pentium.

My apologies to all the streetshitters.

>>60544223
Wiemy, co sie kreci

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>>60544223
Nice day 0 benchmark faggot

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>>60544232
LMAO

>>60544237
CHOKING IN MY SKIN

>>60544237
Go away 14xxxx.jpg

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>>60540115

>>60544205
sans Arma 3, DCS, cities, total war, and every other non console game port.

Congratulations Poojop you bought an AMD for gaming when you where better off buying a console. You must really like playing DOOM.

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>>60544252
That's right you fucking kiketel shekelchaser, cry because you can't get away with your lying bullshit anymore.

Going to build pc in a month.
Is ryzen mitx yet?

>>60544270
Biostar

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>>60544269
>didn't include any i7s
I wonder why

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>>60544268
>People only ever buy PCs to play Arma 3 and DCS and literally don't do anything else with them ever
THIS is what you are resorting to?

>>60544282
Corelets, when will they learn?

>>60544287
ANSWER IT YOU DUMBFUCK
>>60544212
It's because you know why. Intel is capped in those benchmarks , not the fucking GPU.

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>>60544287
Why would you compare a 1600x to more expensive CPUs?

>>60544291
Don't lie. People actually do build specific PCs just to play games like Arma, and especially DCS. No one builds a PC just to play Doom, or Tomb Raider though.

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>>60544306
>Hurr durr compare the 1600x to more expensive Intel CPUs or I'll cry
Gas yourself.

>>60544315
See:
>>60544082

>>60544309
Lul you need to compare a 12 thread poozen to a 4 thread intel and bottleneck both with a poolaris to get the same performance

>>60544315
Intel lost this time. Get over it.

>>60544319
ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION INSTEAD OF DODGING IF YOU'RE SOOO CONFIDENT.

>>60544328
>Polaris
>1800Mhz
Amazing how little you need to grasp at the straws and fail at it miserably.

Should I buy a ryzen cpu, or a Xbox one?

>>60544357
>Xbox One
for what purpose?

>>60544347
First two games use poolaris and they have the same performance, second one uses a 1070 and the intel shits on 3 times more threaded poozen

>>60544368
Gaming, and web browsing with video streaming mostly.

>>60544368
They both game like shit so I could save some money

>>60544370
First one is GTX1060 Second one is RX480 Third one is GTX1070

Go cry into the corner you came from, corelet.

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>>60544328
The 1600x is the same price at the 7600k, and the 1600 is cheaper than the 7600. Don't blame me Intel's shekelchasing.

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>>60544344
SHUT UP

>>60544377
Fucking KEK

>>60541915
Intelshills ladies and gentlemen. It is one of the more expensive B boards and offers same fuctions as the X ones, including overclocking.

>>60544382
>RX480
Stopped reading there

>>60544393
Pootelshills are braindead.

>>60544374
Then get a Controller for PC, save 300bux.

>>60544368
>>60544374
This is me asking serious question.

>>60544377
TOPKEK

>>60544377
Whatever you do just don't buy an i5 for gaymen

>>60540115
waiting for threadripper and skymeme-x because muh pcie lanes and moar cores

>>60544413
>>60544392
>>60544377
It's uncanny how close to 60seconds apart this posts really are.

>>60544309
to be fair, no one should buy a 7600/6600/k cpu for gaming due to stutter shit

so it makes sense to compare it to the 7700k that doesnt stutter up the ass

>>60544357
>>60544374
>>60544411
These posts are made from me. Others are not made from me.

>>60544429
You're gonna need an expensive cooler + delid kit, and a dead socket.

Waiting for APUs or Zen 2.0

>>60544440
Ryzen, Intel is inferior except for their top of the line housefire.

>>60544429
do they stutter more than 7700k or is it that nobody actually cares about stuttering as it's as minor problem as you can make up?

>>60544475
They're probably used to the stutters and think it's a feature.

>>60544446
probably, but the 7700k is still the best gaming cpu

>>60544475
the 7700k doesnt really stutter, the non HT cpus stutter like hell


im still on a 2500k tho, if i had to buy anything, it would be the 1600, or 1600x

>>60544280
Do you know if there's a place that actually sells them?
There are reviews on Newegg, but it was out of stock for the entire last month.

I guess finding components is a sport again since actual PC popularity is so low lately.

Faggots posting about Arma 3.
I have an r7 1700, and play Arma 3 just fine. 30fps with Ryzen is different than 60+fps with shittel.

Ryzen is butterry smooth @ 30fps while recording. You cannot do that with an Intel CPU. Yeah Intel do higher frames, but the stuttering is game braking in my opinion. Horrid engine from the early 2000's that is losing it's playerbase. Last time I joined a server there where only 5 clients maxed, and they all had Intel cpus. They told me that the game was completely erratic, and my PC was the only one that was buttery smooth.

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>>60544425
>skymeme-x

>>60544466
Question is about a new PC.

Ryzen build vs Xbox one. What is better for gaming/streaming movies/web browsing. I don't need to play computer games for now.

>>60544714
>xbox
>ever

>>60544797
Is PlayStation better?

Okay question is for Ryzen computer vs PlayStation. Gaming/movie watching/web browsing.

>>60544839
Then it depends on the software and not the hardware.
Consoles have shit hardware but they sell that shit hardware by locking software to their platform.

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>>60541925
I'd delid even the 1800X if I had it.

>>60544865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz_-Q5QzRqg

It's useless to delid 1800x especially as it can't OC that high.

>>60544888
I wouldn't mind putting even more than 1.440v into it if it could get 4.25 or 4.30 stable with a gigantic radiator. Along with liquid metal on top of the IHS.

>>60544130
>>60544182
>>60544199
>>60544223
>>60544287
Go away IMG_xxxx
>>60544208
Yes.

>>60544850
I want to play console games watch movies unzip files and run handbrake.

>>60540115
Asus should've made the Apex first and charged an extra 80. Asus drones would've bought it anyways and then sell the Hero 6 months later for less.

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>>60544577
no stranger to housefires senpai

>>60545254
I'm an ASUS fanboy but their AM4 boards are shit cause they thought ryzen was gonna fail.
They fucked up desu fampai

>>60545498
Let it all burn.