What keep you away from using Linux? For me is: >Vidya >MS

>>60525084
>Vidya
ok
>MS Office
you're retarded
>Foobar2000
botnet 2000
also retarded

>>60525084
The fact that Win7 already works perfectly.

Forza horizon 3

>>60525090
tbf MS office is still insanely useful for the excel macros

>>60525084
Only the fact that Windows 8.1 is already installed on my computer, and that it is still being supported with CVE patches.

That said, this is my last Windows install.

>>60525084
Final Cut X

wait, OSX is BSD its ok

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The fact that I hate every fucking DE I've tried and I just don't care for window managers.

>gnome
Systemd also gnome
>xfce
Really poor composting
>cinnamon
When you move windows with two monitors plugged in, the windows don't move fluidly. And this is a deal breaker on a great DE
>Mate
Weird ass dual monitor support. Firefox locks itself into a full screen and hide the task bar on my second monitor
>KDE
Huge, also I find that animations take too long and lag everything.
Weird Firefox glitch where if you hide the title bar, set the task bar to auto hide, and full screen it (only works with h bar on top) you can't move tabs to that window anymore

Its fucking hell. I can find a solution to the vidya problem or the other problems but this is too silly. I'll stick to using it as a primary for my laptop honestly

>>60525084
Nothing. I cut the bullshit about the overhyped MS Office (for the vast majority of people LO is a more than adequate replacement) and never looked back. Now I have Windows 10 in a virtual box with no internet connection for the rare occasion that I use Visual Studio. Never been comfier. My computer is MY computer again.

my sound card doesn't werk

>>60525171
>>60525214
I recently purchased a laptop and it has W10 pre-installed, if I don't have a tight timetable right now I would seriously just learn everything about Linux and wipe my computer clean of this piece of shit OS.

I heard rumors about W10 but I didn't knew it was that bad.

I tried Ubuntu for a while. It was actually really slow. I guess I didn't have the right drivers or something? I tried. I really did.

>>60525084
>vidya
I only really play CSGO, which works amazing on Linux
>MS Office
LaTeX > Word and Powerpoint
LibreOffice Calc is good enough for me as a replacement for Excel, although I will admit Excel is king. It doesn't justify the use of Windows or macOS in my use case though.
>Foobar2000
cmus or mpd+ncmpcpp is superior m8
DeadBeeF is also pretty good, maybe not as good as foobar but good enough to make it not justifiable to use Windows, at least in my use case
Clementine is also decent if that is your thing

>>60525084
Nothing. Been using it for a year and I love it.

>>60525090
>no arguments

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>>60525084
One of the reasons is because I couldn't get my 3 monitors to run off both Intel IGP and my graphics card at the same time. AMD cards run hot at idle with two non-identical monitors attached, for Nvidia its three monitors. The workaround is to attach two monitors to the iGPU and one monitor to the graphics card. But my attempts has caused Linux to not boot with a screen.
If someone succeeded I'd like to know how. This totally works in Windows.

>>60525084
nothing. this is posted from a GNU/Linux device.

>>60525084
I have no desire to delve into something new, nor the desire to create another machine, be it virtual or physical. I just don't care enough.

>>60525084
wannacry. I first need my data back before I can move.

>>60525084
> vidya
K.
> ms office
please tell me you are not using 2013 or 2016 like an idiot and you are using the good versions like 2007 and 2003
> foobar2000
what is so special about it?

>>60525153
2010 also runs flawlessly on wine.

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>vidya

Literally it. I hate Windows and wish I could switch in a convenient way.

>>60525090
This

>>60525084
Spergs

Mostly vidya but also general software compatibility. If a program has a linux version it's often an afterthought and not as good. Last time I checked the adobe master collection didn't work either which is a real annoyance.

Everything besides software compatibility is so much better than windows though

>>60525358
decent selection on steam mostly when it comes to indieshits. Though if you're into games enough you're gonna want to dual boot or passthrough

Honestly nothing major, I just like knowing everything will work right on any random website or with any random hardware. Almost everything is designed for Windows first, then iPhones, then OSX, then android phones, then maybe sometimes linux.
>inb4 android is linux
>inb4 ganoo plus linux
Don't.

>>60525084
>Vidya
Wine and time
>MS Office
Wine and Libreoffice
>Foobar2000
Deadbeef

I'm perfectly content with OS X

>>60525202
Have you tried LXDE?

>>60525084
terrible font rendering

>>60525202
you've probably heard this before, but try setting up compton with xfce

>>60525084
Visual Studio

>abloo bloo emacs and Vim

I used to use Vim (and I still use VsVim) but I don't want to install 200 plugins to have 1/10th the functionality of Visual Studio.

>>60525481
LXDE is too barebones for my needs. I haven't used it in a long time bt it doesn't look like much has changed

I'm particularly interested in LXqt but it still has some work to go

>>60525122
Yeah, for now. I give it another year or two before MS drops support and it becomes the new XP.

>>60525153
Is its macro system any more powerful than the one in LibreOffice? Or is it just a matter of having a lot of legacy code that would need to be written?

>>60525263
You're probably not going to get it back. If the hackers have your money and your data, the optimal thing for them to do is demand MORE money and say "we'll give your data back this time, for real, we promise!!". Keeping their promise would be good for building a positive reputation, but with everyone rushing to update their future opportunities seem limited anyway.

Besides, if there's anything you can't afford to lose, you should really be keeping an offline backup anyways.

>>60525084
whats the point of linux exactly

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>>60525084
A E S T H E T I C S

>>60525527
productivity.

Yeah, but can it play Crysis?

>>60525460
Perfectly functioning web browsers are abundant on Linux. Also pretty much all modern hardware I have encountered works with Linux.

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>>60525084
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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What keep you away from using Windows?

>>60525084
Zbrush, few other programs,games would be nice as well.
I wish someone would set up some sort of agreed-upon Virtualization hardware setups, so we could get type 1 hyper-visors with GPU pass-threw in some sort of stable predictable form.

>>60525084
>Videogames
>Adobe Suite
>Any worthwhile DAW/music software
There's just not much Linux has to offer for creatives.

@60525084
>LOOK MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN XDDD

>>60525084
Work Software like Keil and VS2015
3D modelling like 3Dsmax

>>60525084
>vidya
no argument only thing I understand

>MS Office
?? why wich part?
>word
can be replace with a texteditor or something else depending on what you wanna do with it
>excel
can be replaced with gnumeric or something like that
>powerpoint
revealjs
>one-note
what even is this
>outlook
do people use stuff like this anymore?
>other stuff
never even talked about

>foobar2000
I've ran it through wine when I still used it
kinda worked but has been a while since I tested this
there are plenty of less nicer replacements if you're looking for gui alternatives
I've just went to tui alternatives wich work fine for me

>>60525084
I like to play a game now and again, but as im getting older this gets less and less common. Im leaning more and more towards Linux nowadays, especially since all the retarded shit Microsoft has been doing, like the anti-piracy shit that has come out recently.

>>60525084
>she uses a single pc and a single os
limited plebeian

>>60525084
>muh vidya
>muh kekoffice
>muh shitbar

one less idiot using gnu/linux, thank god.

>>60527306
Not him, but fuck you if you think MS Office can just be replaced with other programs that offer similar functions. Good luck if you ever have to collaborate with anyone else on a project, and god help you if you have to submit it to someone else for school/work. Office is a necessity because it's the industry standard. That other shit you listed is only worthwhile if literally no one else will ever look at the things you make using it.

I don't know, maybe
nothing

>>60527338
>fuck you
thanks man, I am just trying to help him find replacables. he wasnt more specific about his needs for office so I was just giving him what I knew.

wich part of MS Office is forced to you?
why even? most programs can export and read those "standards" without being that program to make that standard


besides that my opinions about those things you said.
>office is a standard
I dont work with people who force to use nonfree software. but luckily the places I work for dont force me to this shit

I have loonix on my laptop and winshit on my desktop but my desktop is fucked and won't even post, can't figure out why.

Loonix is okay, thing's don't really break but sometimes my shit will just crash out or hang. I program more but I miss vidya games.

>>60527338
I work in group projects, Libre office opens and saves to .docx

>>60525084
Nothing, I'm not gay and I don't inject weed.

>>60525084
>>Vidya
get a ps4

>>MS Office
what is office 360?

>>Foobar2000
WTF??

>>60527416
Not well, in my experience. It always manages to fuck up the formatting.

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>>60525090
>foobar2000
>botnet
faggot.

Also you can make foobar2000 work in wine easily, and you can even write a wrapper so you can open the files from whatever file manager you're using.

>>60527338
thanks for answering stupid bitch ass

>>60527515
>Also you can make foobar2000 work in wine easily
>install it
>start it
>UI all messed up
>easy

>>60525084
Nothing. I use it along with Windows, think about migrating a laptop to Linux, so the only WC is the desktop one, for games of course.

Nothing. I've switched completely earlier this year.

MS Office is annoying anyway. LibreOffice does everything MS Office does (that I would need), and LaTeX is better for most of my purposes anyway.

CMUS keeps track of my music library and looks way better than foobar since it runs in a terminal. It's also probably more lightweight.

Games? Well, yeah, I lose some. But honestly, it's not as bad as it used to be. Literally half of my Steam library runs on Linux. I can live without a few AAA titles everybody rages about, honestly. I still get to play L4D2 with friends, and all my favorite "indie" titles. And sometimes even stuff like Shadow of Mordor. S'good.

Now, consider that I update my system when I want to and don't have to suffer Microsoft doing random stuff in the background, re-enabling telemetry with every other update, restarting my PC when I don't want it to, forcing me to basically hack my system to remove apps and features I don't need or want...

Also, I get to choose the desktop environment I like. After making myself use a tiling window manager for three months, I honestly can't use a compositing one like the Windows one anymore. It's just too awkward and unproductive.

Linux is better, anon. There are tradeoffs, but ultimately the freedom and control is worth it. What prevents you from switching is probably that it's outside of your current comfort zone, outside of what you've settled into. Not that Windows is genuinely better. Take the plunge properly for a couple of months and see if you still want to go back then.

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chinese porn games and drivers

>>60528049
>yankee go home
damn racist

My ISP uses l2tp to connect to the internet, and I have no idea how to configure it on linux.

>>60525084

Linux was barely usable bugridden trash up to about 2012. Since then it has improved a lot.

>Games
>Poor drivers for my soundcard (I blame creative)

I can live with dual booting to play those games that don't work on Linux, but I couldn't get my mic to work

Stability.
MacOS updates aren't a gamble like they are on most of the useful Linux distros.

>>60525084
Photoshop.

Vidya keeps me on xp. Wine has gotten better but its still unnecessary big amount of tweaking to make some work if they ll work at all. I used to game on slackware best shit but all it takes is one game to make me switch. Cant accept not being able to run my stuff and dual boot made linux partition gather dust

>>60525084
hackintosh.

it has everything linux has + more

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>>60525084
Nothing. I using parabola GNU/linux-libre right now.

>>60525084
Its shit

>>60525228
me too desu. My only concern is trying to get onto my uni's wifi.

>VPN Client, the Linux version has DNS leaks no matter what I do, also the Network Lock is comfy
>AIMP
>Being a good VM host

I don't care about Skype ans Vidya anymore, so Linux is slowly becoming an alternative

>>60528230
NetworkManager > open terminal >nmtui
ez as 3.14

>A good DAW and VSTs
>Other audio software like amp modelers
>Games

>General superiority of basically most other unices and likes
>Photoshop
>Adobe software
>More or less uniform UI that's not shit
>Final cut pro

Vidyas

>>60525253
you probably have to set specific drivers for each monitor in xorg.conf.d. I guess windows does it automatically

>>60525084
The fact that you have so many options and software alternatives on Linux, yet none of them are sophisticated enough for hardcore users. Except for programming. All the music players are a joke, none comes close to MusicBee. The last time I installed a distro there was no working free Google Drive client, like what the fuck. I remember when I tried out Mint and the fucking middle mouse button didn't work, because it wasn't supported by the OS, LIKE WHAT FUCK. Almost everything is a fucking downgrade and fucking ugly to boot.

>>60525084

Last time I installed Linux (Mint to be more precise) for fun at PC at work.

When I realized that I only use it for ricing and browsing net and switch to Windows 7 everytime I need to do ACTUAL work, when every software I neede either didnt work in Wine properly, I decided to abandon Linux completely.

If I need to sit down, read manuals and net to find out how to fix shit that works out-of-the-box in Windows, whats the reason to use Linux anyway?

>>60528255
i use Renoise which is pretty great if you like trackers. Tracktion also supports Linux i think

>>60528939
Another anon here.

What do you use for mixing and mastering? I'm mostly curious about basic effects. You know, EQs, filters, gates, compressors, limiters, reverbs, delays, harmonic exciters, etc etc.

Is there some comprehensive, reliable list of the best tools the Linux world has to offer? You know, an up-to-date one?

I know of one digital recording studio that uses 100% Linux and achieves good results, so I'm sure getting professional quality IS possible.

Videogames. That's literally the only reason. It's been keeping me from upgrading my PC too because I don't want to be locked into BOTNET10. PCI passthrough is too much of a hassle.

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>>60529095
i am not a professional, so i use renoise for everything
i comes with most important effects and has decent mixing capabilities (pic related)
the only downsides i see is the tracker interface, which you have to like, and the unintuitive way that you include longer recordings, like singing

>>60525084
Just dual boot and keep WIndows on your ssd. It takes 10sec to reboot from your linux OS and launch your games.

You have discord, steam and other socializing applications available on linux through the AUR (at least on arch) so it's not even an headache to install those compared to a few years back.

and deadbeef is better than foobar

>>60528939
I mainly record live instruments and don't use trackers often. I use REAPER myself, and a Linux version is currently being developed, but most of the VSTs I use only work on Windows.

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I genuinely prefer the windows experience and I've used several different distros for months.

>>60528004
It's much more difficult to be a poorfag on GNU/Linux if you liek vijeo gaymes. Windows releases will usually be cracked and uploaded, but even gaymes with GNU/Linux ports are rarely available for """unauthorized copying"""

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/v/ pls go

>>60529312
Fair point. I'm kind of a poorfag too. What I do is hunt down humble bundle deals and occasionally use G2A. Can get some good stuff without spending much.

>>60529351
OP axed what is keeping people away. Muh bideogaymes is a valid answer.

>>60529385
No it isn't.

>>60529429
>Muh brogrumming
/prog/ pls go

>>60529429
Except it is. You're working under the assumption they're talking about the availability of games on Linux. However it could also be they don't want to have to migrate everything over. Which I know is my case. Which was why buying a separate drive for linux worked for me

>>60529429
If you couldn't browser 4chan or watch your shitty anime you wouldn't want to use linux either. Different people, different hobbies.

Video games
Adobe software
MS Office
nvidia drivers are superior on windows

>>60529310
Do you prefer it for familiarity or just the hands off approach to management?

Getting chromecast to work on Linux seems like a hassle.

>>60529495
God, if only there was a board for people who enjoy gaymen as a hobby

>>60525084
A single video game that won't run in WINE or Steam. I keep an old laptop with Windows XP around to play it.

>>60525084
>Libreoffice
>PCI passthrough
>Wine

what's your excuse

>>60525084
Text-to-speech synthesis software sucks, although at this point I could just run a VM for it. Has anyone else recreated Parallels Desktop feature that displays Windows apps like they are native to the OS?

>>60525532
Use those theme packs that give you the exact window buttons as MacOS.

>>60525084

It's fucking vidya and I need to roll back to Windows 8.1 now.

>>60529713
>Using libreoffice to play gaymes
>Needing PCI passthrough to use office

The last one I agree with though. Still...

>>60527327
this

>>60529833
see, this is what happens when i forget order of first two.

>>60525084
Zune Software
Office
Games

However, I do have Ubuntu installed but I rarely boot it.

Unironically Clip studio and Adobe Flash. I can never seem to get them to consistently work with wine (i was using manjaro at the time), and i'm an animator, so those two programs are why I use computers.

Synfig is tailored primarily for tweening (which is gay), and i can't import my Clip Studio pens into Krita (and no, i will not be remaking them). If anyone here could find a way to get those two working on manjaro (or arch in general), i'll make the switch, but until then it's Win8.1 for me

>>60530189
>Flash animator
How much money do you make from furry porn?

>>60525084
only vidya, but not much tbqh, i only play wow, dota, sims4

>>60528128
>muh updates break muh system
1. Not that hard to rollback packages
2. Pre-2012 meme

>>60525084
>Vidya
Thank you based Torvalds for keeping retards away.

>>60525084
nothing, i am using it

>>60530392
Children show animator, but it's just as sleazy desu

>>60525327
Unfortunately, they fixed most of the shit that annoyed me to no end in 2016.

>MS Office
>Drivers

MS Office not only because of features and compatibility issues, but also because of some add-ins I use for work. For drivers it's mostly a matter of additional functionality, since all my hardware does work on Linux, just not with all features.

Anything else I'm running on Windows is either already FOSS and available on Linux, or there are decent alternatives to replace them.

>>60525305
I use 2010.

>>60525202
Not the latest XFCE, they patched something in to fix the compositing on intel HD.

>>60525468
There is just certain cases where you actually require new hardware or Windows NT controlling that hardware if youre into Vidya.

Because everything I do is already on Windows. Until developers start prioritising L*nux, then I can't think of a valid reason to change.
Any linux anons mind sharing some advantages of it over win10? I'm actually curious

>>60530721
I still dualboot SUSE, but I figured OP was asking why I use Windows at all.

>>60525084
Poor NVIDIA driver performance

>>60525358
all the games i actually play work on linux and i get better performance in csgo on linux than i had on windows lulz

>>60525525
>Yeah, for now. I give it another year or two before MS drops support and it becomes the new XP.
End of support is 2020.

>>60530923
So this is going to obviously be biased by my use cases and priorities, and largely a repeat of what I've written earlier.

On Windows you're locked to its window manager. You can use addons and such, but since they run on -top- of the Windows one, they tend to create bloat and be somewhat glitchy. Meanwhile on Linux you're free to choose one of dozens viable options, including tiling ones. I don't know if tiling window management does anything for you, but to me it's simply superior. I don't have to play around resizing windows or dragging them around by mouse, Awesome WM just does it for me. I also kind of like tinkering with things to no end to make them look the way I want them to, and you get a lot to configure here if you want to.

Linux gives me control. My system won't reboot unless I want it to. Won't update automatically, but when I specifically ask it to. Won't suddenly consume resources because it decides to run processes I know nothing about in the background (telemetry!).

My security is better.

I don't really have to worry about my OS becoming obsolete. While Windows moves on to a new version every couple of years and makes -sure- the previous ones become obsolete so you have to install (and pay for?) the new one, most Linux distros use a rolling release model, where updates are smooth. There's also generally not as much paradigm shift between them. Sometimes things break a little, but the same can be said for Windows. And honestly, I feel like nowadays Linux really isn't that bad with breaking things between updates, unless you use some sort of bleeding-edge distro like Arch.

>>60525084
Bash is garbage. Package system is fucking trash, no IDE even coming close to Visual Studio.

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>>60531286
Bait.

>>60531305
No.

>>60531325
>Bash is garbage
Is terrible bait. You might have been able to get away with the visual studio one, but starting out with two empty hooks isn't going to work.

>>60525084
>>Vidya
Trash.
>>MS Office
Trash.
>>Foolbar2000
2K trash.

>>60531343
Bash is garbage because its syntax is hideous and was conceived by someone with Terry's level of schizophrenia and autism. Package system is trash because of dependency hell mostly. Sure it's easy and it works most of the time until it doesn't and you end up with a broken system.

>>60528878
>whats the reason to use Linux anyway?
So you don't have to be cucked by microsoft.

>>60531403
>syntax is hideous
Okay I'll bite. Provide a shell with better syntax.
>inb4 fucking powershell

>>60531403
Bash syntax may sometimes be odd but it's about 3 billion times better than cmd batch scripts. Also I don't think anyone has had dependency problems be a major issue in the last couple years as package managers work really well nowadays.

>>60531426
>Okay I'll bite. Provide a shell with better syntax.
csh

>>60525084
Vidya. That's it. I've been installing/playing what I can on Linux, though, provided performance isn't significantly worse.

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>>60525084
No decent DAW works on linux, otherwise i'd have fully switched long ago.
Though they got a pretty decent DJ solution, which is nice.

>>60528049
https://zip.2chan.net/3/res/608400.htm

They actually have a thread on this very subject right now.

>60525084
>Systemd (bugs/depedencies)
>Toxic community
>The other toxic community (GNUmmunists)
>MS Office
>Photoshop
>Lack of drivers
>Games
>Lack of free time to deal with all of the above

Otherwise I see no other problems using Linux as my main OS.

>>60525468
Enjoy no DX 11 gaymes, i guess.

Visual studio
Gaems
Labelled partition
Run/Install driver, everything just werks.

>>60530701
1. Shouldn't need to when coming from official sources only
2. If only...

Vidya
1/2 of what i do on my desktop is vidya and linux just blows at it.

>>60525084
>Vidya
I bet you complain about how shit all the AAA games are shit and never live up to your expectations, how the industry is going shit and yet still pay >$70 for games and pre-order

>MS Office
I use Office at work and work on the same projects at home on my Linux desktop with no issues. Just started using access at work, though.

>Foobar2000
Gay af

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QUICK!
Recommend me (a Windows babby) a nice distro. I am going to try it out in VirtualBox. Privacy and security are my main concerns.
>pls reply
pls reply
>pls reply
pls reply

>>60532056
Honestly, Fedora.

Like a get shit done version of Ubuntu

>>60532056
Privacy and security on a personal workstation/desktop? I'd give Qubes a try. I haven't yet, though, so don't quote me on that. No idea how good/user-friendly it is.

>>60525084
A new computer that supports virtualization

>>60532113
>Qubes
Seems like it's Snowden approved even, thanks!

>>60531853
What do they say?

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>no thumbnails in le GTK file picker in the actual current millennia

>>60532237
For extra Snowden points, you can then run Whonix in a virtual machine on top of it.

>>60531423

Rather

>So my brothers and sisters from Linux Witness cult will praise me

This hate for "non-free" software is closer to paranoia sometimes. Or religious fanatics.

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>>60525327
>2010 also runs flawlessly on wine.
>flawlessly
Font rendering looks like shit no matter what tweaks you apply, which makes Word/OneNote 2010 useless for college etc.

Office 2010 with Wine is not fully stable. Sometimes you run into odd hangups/crashes, and that is totally unacceptable when you are working on longer projects.

Screw that. Either run Office in a VM or get content with LibreOffice.
(Or both; write in LibreOffice and run the VM when you need to fix the formatting)

>>60525084
It's
>Vidya
>intimidated by learning linux (I hear there is a learning curve)
>more vidya

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>>60527737
Not him but it works fine

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>>60532645

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>>60532750
I literally just installed wine and ran the installer

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>>60525084
Pardon, but I would simply like to interject for one second. What you're alluding to as Linux, is really, GNU/Linux, or as I have of late taken to calling it, GNU and Linux. Linux serves as really not an operating setup unto itself, but actually another free piece of a completely working GNU setup made of service by the GNU libraries, shell tools and vital setup components completing a full OS .

A sizeable amount of computer owners use a subspecies of the original setup daily, but do not know. By a strange series of events, the version of GNU that is broadly utilized currently is often called "Linux", and its owners do not know that it is practically the GNU setup, made by GNU.

There actually is a Linux, and they do have it installed, but it is simply a part of the setup they use. Linux serves as really the core: the part of the setup that distributes the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernelis an essential part of an operating setup, but cannot work on its own; it is only operational in the environment of a whole operating setup. Linux serves as really normally utilized in combination with the GNU operating setup: the whole setup is practically GNU with the addition of Linux, or GNU/Linux. Every one of the "Linux" distros are really distros of GNU/Linux.

>>60525084
Vidya

>>60532645
>>60532773
So I don't want to point out the elephant in the room or whatever. You guys see what's wrong with these, right?

>>60532815
yes the font rendering, but thats an easy fix.
I rarely look at my music player, I just use it to listen to music

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>>60525084
> he is too dumb to use latex

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>>60532815
>>60532829
just use deadbeef

>Try to do something simple
>It's amazingly complicated
Face it, the average user will never use fucking GAYnux

>>60532860
>Amy Winehouse
>Dubmood
>Evanescence
>Flyleaf
>Gwen Stefani
>Imagine Dragons
>Kartmaze

You have the shittiest taste in music.

>>60532880
i know...

>>60525084
I pray that vulkan will be spread as wide as directx but come on it just isn't.
I still use a second boot of arch Linux to use gcc which is a pain in the arse to get in windows

>>60525084
> vidya
> photoshop
> premiere

>>60532866
>(((average user)))
What the fuck are you doing on a technology board if you're an "average user"? Fuck off back to your gayning forums and come back when you use a computer for real work, faggot.

>>60532866
Nah. It's getting better and better in the whole "work out of the box" and "user experience" department. Give it some more years, maybe.

I tried Linux Deepin the other day, just for the kicks. The easiest damn installation I've ever seen. And yes, easier than Windows. By quite a margin.

>>60525202
>Not embracing the Openbox + tint2 + dmenu master race

>>60525084
My games and shitty MMOs and I don't think linux has native support for my capture card without doing some kind of pci passthrough.

>>60532328
>Whonix
Thanks for the tip, my dude!

>>60525084
Windows just works, I simply don't want to change.

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>>60532880
There is literally nothing wrong with Amy Winehouse.

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>>60531853
All right, which one of you wrote this?

The second I quit Vidya I'll switch, dunno which disto since there are an assfuck and I don't really wanna deal with a meme distro

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>>60533017

>>60527306
>>60525084
more like
>vidya
steam's selection is fine, also GOG
>MS Office
>Word
Abiword
>Powerpoint
LaTeX
>foobar2k
Quodlibet or cmus

can't games

>some /v/
Just some because 3/4 of my library of steam runs pretty much flawlessly in Linux, however I can't play LoL for example.
>Adobe software

>>60525084
>xe prefers to give up on xer freedom to get a few software running

ayy

>libreoffice
>MS Office
>Abiword
>LaTeX
Google docs is the better than these shits

>>60525084
>vidya
kys
>ms office
Windows xp on qemu, no network connection and office 2007.
>foobar2000
kys

Mostly vidya. If Xqemu/KVM was more user friendly and had more QOL features I'd switch.

>>60525228
eh, if you have the key for it, would love to have it.

>>60525263
wait a bit more.
Free recovery options are found all the time.

>>60533777
t. liberal arts student

>>60531919
Dx11 is working now. They got overmeme to work

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>>60525084
>>Vidya
>What is sudo apt-get install steam
>>MS Office
http://wps-community.org/downloads
>>Foobar2000
>kill self

>>60525084
Nothing, but I also use Windows, at the same time, none of that skid dual boot fuckery.

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Ableton is it, Wine runs it ok but not all VSTs run under it nicely (and Ableton itself is a little buggy under Wine). Just my desktop has Windows, everything else is Linux Mint. I've tried Bitwig and definitely don't want to switch. Also Adobe products, GIMP is ok for like making shitty memes but for any actual graphic design I do I always go to my Windows desktop to take care of that.

I will fucking cum the day Ableton is announced for Linux

>>60534465
>wps
>ads every time you open a document
>suggesting anyone kill themselves
Kill yourself.

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>>60532847
>Having to type commands to successfully write a decent essay

>>60525084
>>>60525084
>Nothing, I'm not gay and I don't inject weed.
nice statement, crackhead

>>60528675
>no working free Google Drive client
You sure about that? I'm fairly certain Apricity used to ship fully loaded with all the Google Botnet anyone could ever want. If they had it, it must be available somewhere.

>>60525084
You can run foobar2000 under wine and sandbox it with firejail

>>60525484
this.
even ubuntu patched font engine, or that infinality package, none deliver the experiencing I got from using windows with mactype.

>リナ
cute

>>60534995
>none deliver the experiencing I got from using windows with mactype.
that makes literally no sense
mactype is just a windows port of freetype, the font renderer used in linux distros

>>60533017
Well, she's dead, so there's one thing.

>>60529245
Renoise looks really good, is that the default theme or?

>>60535531
close to it, it ships with many themes
i just adjusted the background color to fit with my desktop theme

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>>60531853
I-Isn't /g/ s-supposed to be a blue b-board?

>>60531853
>自由がそんなに大事なことですか。
nuke it again

I'm lazy and Microsoft Windows just werks™.

>>60525084
Because every linux oriented projects are just C.
Yes the oldish, retarded and ridiculous C.
Who wants that shit in 2017? It's just insane!

>>60525202
try Budgie
it's basically a nicer looking Gnome

>>60536204
It's RIDICULOUS! C is everywhere!

>>60527515
>install wine
>open up a huge security hole that negates the main reason people switch from Linux to Windows in the first place

enjoy your ransomware

>>60536233
Hopefully there is P (from Microsoft) for this millennium development!

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>>60525084
>Foobar2000
>not using musicbee in 2k17

I'm already using Windows 7 and it does what I need. There's advantages to Linux, sure, but not enough to justify the change.
Why don't you learn to drive with your feet and a blow tube? You can do stuff while driving with your newly freed hands and if you ever lose your arms you're already good to go.

>>60535145
>freetype
nonsense, mactype is a wrapper for gdi++, not freetype.

>>60530867
I installed Xubuntu 16.04.2 on my X230 (Intel HD 4000) a month ago and it suffered from screen tearing.

>>60538919
wanna take a guess at what renderer GDIPP uses?

>>60539055
> GDIPP has accomplished the following goals:
> Client-server model
> FreeType renderer
> GGO renderer
> DirectWrite renderer
> GDI painter
> Fine-grain glyph/glyph run cache synchronization
> Project renaming and moving

for me it seems freetype is just a part of it.

Anyway, if you are so confident, please show me how to config freetype for look like mactype LCD setting. It's all I need.

>>60539163
the rest of the points there just describe how it integrates with windows (not sure what "GGO" is though)
that is, directwrite and GDI are windows-specific technologies

i don't have windows available to me, if you want to post an example along with the font(s) used, i can have a look

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>>60525084
Literally no reason as I have a second gpu for passthrough.
I'm just extremely lazy and don't want to put in any more effort than I have to.

>>60539007
>i tried out a software 1 year out of date, it doesn't have the thing that was added recently

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>>60539163
>>60539288
here's an example of what i use
just plain, stock freetype 2.8
fonts are dejavu sans and hanazono

>>60525084
>Video games
>termanal interface
>having to edit your system and update your self
>there is zero support for API's and opimasation for Vidya
> My applications don't work on it.

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In general? Nothing, I use it all the time. It's a great tool for a lot of jobs.
...but as my primary desktop operating system?
The native Steam client is literally unusable.
I'll never, ever be satisfied with my system configuration, and I hate the feeling. After a few weeks I feel like I'm running a cobbled-together mess of botched experiments, this has never changed.
I like my commercial staples in the NT space, and the knowledge that if someone has imagined it, software exists to do it.
Current design trends in free software interfaces don't really do it for me at all, so I tend to live on the terminal instead, and configuring those applications is a chore.
I do play a game now and again.
My fetish for high-end System V gear and my time spent lurking those communities has fucked with me subconsciously and I will always find the Linux ecosystem boring and unenjoyable no matter what.
There are a whole lot of other factors, in short I just don't enjoy the platform on a desktop and thus see no reason to give it a bigger role in my everyday computing than it already has.

I use linux but I want to use ableton and play sfv.

So I'm stuck with a windows partition

>>60525084
RPGMaker porn games

>>60539306
How recent? Is the fix included in 17.04? Or will I have to wait until 17.10 or later for the fix?

I thought that Xubuntu 16.04 was running the latest version of Xfce (4.12).

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>>60539288
like this?

>>60539948
font?

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>>60525084
>foobar2000
mpd + ncmpcpp is what I use

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>>60539948
>>60539964
roboto font

anyway, this is what is on ubuntu right now (I'm using patched version from no1wantdthisname), the windows version clearly look bolder and smoother.

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>>60540032
here's mine with roboto and similar size/colours
my guess is the only different is the level of hinting
i prefer lower hinting, as do you it seems

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>>60540157
another example, linux:

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>>60540177
>>60540157
and windows

as someone who look at the screen all day I'd refer later.

anyway, yours is too wide

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>>60525532
Also Helvetica.

>>60532866

Programming/development related stuff are way more complicated in Windows.

>>60532866
the average user is a tard, what's your point?

>>60525575
The $200 price tag.

I prefer OS X and OpenBSD

>>60540593
I recently set up a fucking Win2K workstation as a development system and it wasn't really that difficult to get it set up with proper tools, the most retarded part is the use of \ for directories and the built-in tab completion being less well developed, but other than that was acceptable. You usually use an IDE like VS anyway.

>>60532880
>saying something that is subjective about another is bad

>>60532866
They already do. They're called ChromeOS and Android. Normies don't need powerful/full featured systems.

>>60525084
but I am

I can't switch permanently though, the only engineering software for linux is ansys and I don't even use that anymore

>>60529495
This u fucking weaboos, if you think games will work on Linux get rainbow 6 or GTA v to work, I'll be waiting for you idiots who think you're all the top programmers to find a connection to play them, you Linux shills man. If anime was no where working on Linux you would probably be all over windows and shilling for Microsoft.

MPC

MPlayer and its forks are shit

>>60541703
y

>>60540955
plus subscription fees to any of the professional software you'd want to use windows for

>>60525084
> vidya
Redard.
> office
LateX
> foobar
Retard.

:^)

What is foobar and why should I use it?

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>>60530867
>>60539007
>>60539306
>>60539745
Screen tearing occurs on Intel HD graphics cards because the option "tear-free" is disabled in the driver config as default, since it is a possibility that some iGPU's won't work properly if it is enabled.

It's quite simple to fix:

sudo mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf

Section "Device"
   Identifier  "Intel Graphics"
   Driver      "intel"
   Option      "TearFree"    "true"
EndSection

>>60542087
a meme and you shouldn't

I use Linux every day but GOD DAMN I miss Photoshop. I can't use gimp, sorry not sorry. I'm just used to Photoshop and I'm too green to run cracked software through wine.

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freetards eternally BTFO!!
how will they ever recover?

>>60525084
linux is keeping me away from using linux
almost everyhting is wrong with it

>>60542700
This. Using gimp is like smashing your dick with a hammer then trying to use photoshop with an upside down monitor

my japanese loli games only work on windows

>>60532969
Pretty good taste, but after using this for a few years I graduated to i3 and I am much happier. I had just been manually resizing windows in openbox to tile for a while anyway. Tiling WMs really are the endgame. It's just a matter of if you are ready or not.

>>60543879
Degenerate.

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>>60542700
>>60543854
Well GIMP has no vector functionality (aside from text), which is a pretty big turn off. PS lets me jump from vector to pixel seamlessly and has a bunch of photography-aligned tools that were useful back when I was a hipster. But now GIMP is easily good enough for pic related, if not a little buggy at times.

>>60525090
>foobar2000
>botnet

What?

>>60525084
I have a real job.

Too much to count. Maybe there are replacements for some of the things but it would take ages to search them out and get used to the whole OS all over again, and I don't want to do that.

>>60543913
There's no purer love than the one between a man and his loli

>>60544726
Two lesbian lolis in love with each other is purer

I like, and am used to using Photoshop & Premier, and the software that's already on Linux that I'd want, I have on Windows already. Stuff like Skype, Slack, Discord, and Handbrake.
I don't have any desire to customize near-every aspect of my desktop, or other aspects of the system.
I've recently picked up playing Witcher 3 alongside a friend online (Not multiplayer, just call up and play together separately, trying to keep similar progress story-wise). I'm sure WINE has minimal loss at this point, but I currently play it at 1920x1200 at 60Hz and maximum settings (excluding Hairworks)

Are there any reliable/stable programs to replace what I use for photo & video editing, as well as WINE performance in convenient charts for various games in comparison to native-Windows counterparts?
Because if Linux (and the countless distros for it) is supposedly less-resource-intensive, I'd give it a shot via virtual machine.

Thanks in advance, and have a good day, anons.

>>60540298
Anyone's got Operator Mono SSm? (not operator ssm)

>it just works
>boring

>>60530867
I'll give it a go next time around. Could be it just hasn't been pushed to >Manjaro

>>60532969
I'm honestly just not big on Window Managers. Which is a shame because I dig the functionality but there's something that when I use them I just don't feel "comfy" with. I've only tried i3 and awesome though so maybe I should revisit some more. (It was a brief time)

>>60536230
Oh I just looked at budgie and it's coming along a lot faster than I thought it would have by now. Definitely gonna give it a go. Cheers anon