>ryzen is a success, they said Then why is AMD still losing

>>60513201
>from April
>based on Steam

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>>60513201
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/market_share.html

>>60513201
Patience

>>60513201

Didn't you hear? Intel is dead, the i7 is dead, i5 dead, i3 dead, xeon dead, everything dead. Year of AMD

>>60513201

>look at my reliable source of information
>steam

You know steam surveys are not listing every single computer running their software right? That they pick random pc's and then work an estimate? You know that right?

>>60513278

>Just Wait™

>>60513293
>That they pick random pc's and then work an estimate?

Wrong. Nice try, shill.

You'd think you would try to not make shit up and lie to save AMD when the whole function of the hardware survey is detailed on their site. The hardware survey doesn't estimate fuck all, it's the data of all installs of Steam that have the survey active.

>>60513293
>You know steam surveys are not listing every single computer running their software right?

Yes they do, that's the whole purpose of the survey (protip, it's not meant for people, it's meant for gaming companies to gauge the hardware of the entire steam userbase for development purposes). It's the same reason why the HD4000 looks so popular, because every PC that ever used one of those CPUs reported it back as their GPU even if they had dedicated ones.

>>60513311

From the steam surveys page:

>Steam conducts a monthly survey to collect data about what kinds of computer hardware and software our customers are using. Participation in the survey is optional, and anonymous. The information gathered is incredibly helpful to us as we make decisions about what kinds of technology investments to make and products to offer.

>it's the data of all installs of Steam that have the survey active.
>Participation in the survey is optional, and anonymous.

You might want to rephrase that statement there m8.

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>Clicking "yes" when Steam asks to spy on you

>>60513201
Oh look, it's another episode of "let's make a low effort anti-AMD bait thread!"

>>60513293
You don't exactly need a massive sample size for your poll to be considered scientifically valid.

>>60513500
sample size is irrelevant if you have selection bias.
Steam survey is voluntary and AMD users are less likely to agree to the survey than Intel users, because Intel chips are mostly sold in prebuilts and laptops to people who click "agree" to anything that pops up on their screen.

>>60513610
Wrong. AMD users love to make AMD look strong, and for that reason they're the first to agree to any survey.

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>>60513201

>Ryzen
>any good for multimedia

There are no valid reason to buy AMD if most of what you do is browsing internet, watching youtube and HEVC rips and playing video games.

>AMD

valid.x86.fr/bench/1

I'll just wait for Coffeelake and buy myself a gtx1070 to go with it.

>>60513201
Because 1 flagship CPU can't compete with Intel's entire lineup of CPUs which provide better price points. Also AMD has been failing for so long that they've disappeared from stores. Even Intel considers their own older processors to be more serious competition than AMD.

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>>60513842
>multimedia

>>60513842
Not supporting a shit Jew company is a valid reason.

>>60513976
>rig
>spoilers o /g/
just kill yourself retard, and yes buy AMD you write just as expected from their userbase

also nice shame-delete

>>60514046
Fuck /g/ and its no spoiler tags. I never remember that this shit board doesn't have the same features that literally every other fucking board has.

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>>60513842

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>>60513871
>Hurr durr single-threaded performance is the only thing that matters
Buy a bentium then, kike.

>>60514076
So 1700 confirmed shit?

>>60514083


>BUT LOOK AT MY ADOBE AND WINZIP BENCH MARKS!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

It's Buldozer all over again guys.

>>60514076

>performance per dollar

Yeah, Buldozer was unbeatable there too.

Not sure how is this supposed to show AMD in a positive light. It just proves they make cheap trash.

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>>60514172
>There are no valid reason to buy AMD if most of what you do is browsing internet, watching youtube and HEVC rips and playing video games.

Performance per dollar matters in the use case that shekelchaser specified.

>>60514153
>It's Buldozer all over again
Oh please. Bulldozer was uncompetitive in literally everything from day one.

Ryzen is a huge improvement is actually competitive with Intel. The first time you could say that about AMD in like a decade or so.

Don't be so hyperbolically retarded. This isn't the second coming of the days when AMD dominated Intel in every metric, but to try and compare the Ryzen launch with Bulldozer is just dumb. They're nothing alike.

>>60514193
>Total Linux

What? What is this measuring?

>>60514193
im sory anon, but i can download a total linux at 100% too with a shit cpu

im not sure what this graph represents?

did all the other cpus not manage to get linux 100% downloaded?

what does that have to do with cpu
they ned better internet

History is there to learn from. And amd retards fail to do so. Thus they are unable to see how ironic this ryzen situation is, since we heard all the fucking SAME arguments about
>muh cores
>multithreaded future in a year
>dem synthetic tests so important
>such productivity
etc. on bulldozer release. All those retards screaming how intel is dead. And now their cognitive dissonance makes them forget that fail and they do the same stupid thing, with the same arguments.
How can anyone trust amd and these shills after bulldozer.

Trick me once - shame on you, trick me twice - shame on me.

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>>60514153
>$490 1800x better than a $1,000 6900k at EVERYTHING
>hurr durr bulldozer
Gas yourself, kiketel shekelchaser.

>>60514245
what is this, a picture for ants?

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>>60514254
Oops, that was the thumbnail.

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>>60514241

>>60514254

No, just processed by an AMD cpu.

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>year of the loonix

>>60514272
Yeah, I remember all those synthetic and productivity benches from bulldozer era. History repeats itself.

>>60513293
>mfw the last HW survey I got was in ~2011, before I upgraded from my Q6600/9600GT rig

If AMD can get 10% more IPC and 10% higher frequencies for Ryzen+ I'll probably get one then.

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>>60514281

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>>60514281
>>60514301

>>60513293
>get the hardware survey popup every few months while on windows
>switch to linux, still play stuff like factorio
>no hardware survey since half a year

Really makes you think

>>60514083
i wish that had the 6950x. im just curious. ryzen is a way better chip especially just for ease of multitasking and computational power. and I know its been head to head or beating the 6950x in other benches.

>>60514322
Yeah, that Steam's linux marketshare is under 1% and any hardware patterns gleamed from that would be literally worthless.

>>60514311
>>60514301
I am glad that you are happy to support my argument by offering the same types of benches we saw but I just wonder whether you are getting payed for mindlessly posting all those pictures in all threads every day?
I mean, I doubt someone would spend so much effort on shilling for free

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>>60514334
Here's a 6950X comparison for you.

It's so hilarious how some of the media have been shilling for AMD while the metrics don't lie.

It's trash and not particularly cheaper than intel CPU that offer better performances in gaming anyway.

Nobody is buying that shit. AMD market share has been been further down.

>>60514245

Jesus you're just saying the exact words of AMD marketing campaign prior to Ryzen launch.

Then they put it against the I5 7600k and I7 7700k and it goes blown the fuck off to the moon where it belongs.

Anyway nobody is bying Ryzen dude.

>>60514342
>never survey linux users
>linux percentage on steam is low

really initializes your systemd

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>>60514343
>NO SYNTHETIC OR PRODUCTIVITY BENCHMARKS! THEY MAKE KIKETEL LOOK BAD!
Okay how about gayming then?
>HURR THOSE DON'T COUNT EITHER
LMAO

>>60514348
Hardware survey is not OS usage. It would only determine what variant of Linux you operate on.

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>>60514346
It warms the soul to see kiketel shekelchasers having to resort to totally evidence free shilling because the vast majority of the actual evidence is against them.

>>60514322
this

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>>60514387

Shit you sure told be mate.

>>60514366
>MUH YOUTUBER TESTS
Next you gonna post adoredtv benches.
It is actually funny how this is the only bench showing such performance out of ryzen. Even his subscribers called BS on this, yet amd shills are happy to believe in any shit to justify their inferior shit

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>>60514411
>this is the only bench showing such performance out of ryzen
Wrong.

>>60513293
>this delicious copepost

>>60514344
wow its kind of surprising to see it beat the 6950 in single thread. but lacking two cores (20% fewer cores) but only performing at a 7% defecit in multithreaded is kick ass.

>>60513610
> because Intel chips are mostly sold in prebuilts and laptops to people who click "agree" to anything that pops up on their screen.

So, Intel has more users? Whoaaa

Guess you just proved yourself wrong, chucklefuck.

>>60514438
And considering the 6950X is $1,650 while the 1800x is only $490, you can deduce for yourself that the 16-core Threadripper is going to toss the 6950x and the 12-core Skylake-X directly into the dumpster.

>>60514386
But it's literally OS usage, linux gets grouped into its own category and is at about 1% right now. It reports whether you use linux or windows or osx

>>60514460
yeah thats absolutely insane. im looking forward to naples or epyc or whatever theyre calling it for that same reason. watch the market share then when everyone is throwing their xeons in the trash and upgrading their workstations.

Ryzen might be shit for gaming, but at least it's making Intel release their six cores late this year.

I can finally retire my 3570k.

>>60514456
Yes, congratulations, Intel has more buyers of prebuilt desktops and laptops since Ryzen processors aren't even available in those segments yet. Congratulations.

No one is going to know anything about how strong Ryzen sales are and how much of a bite out of Intel sales they are going to take until Intel and Ryzen release their next set of quarterly results.

But you don't care about the actual results anyway, you just want to low-effort shitpost.

>>60514508
but broadwell has been out a while, its only slightly more than the 4 cores and not even any more powaaaaarr

>>60514508
I doubt intel will have 6 core processors in the i5 line

>>60514518
Literally nobody gives a shit about your underdog ego bullshit. The fact of the matter is, you BYTFO with your own post.

Jesus christ you're a dummy.

>>60514508
>Ryzen might be shit for gaming

Well, more like the 7700k is better for 1080p or less gaming at 120hz or more refresh rates in DX11 games.

At 1440p or above they are effectively tied, and we can't even fairly assess DX12 performance yet because Nvidia's drivers bottleneck Ryzen in DX12. Once Vega is released it will become much clearer how Ryzen actually performs in DX12.

You amd vs intel shills are just as bad as people that think repulicans and democrats are different parties.

>>60514537
of course they wont, i7s wont even have HT LOL

>>60514540
>Nobody gives a shit about what the actual sales results are, we just want to shit up /g/ with anti-AMD shitposting
(You)

>>60513201
>le steam hardware survey
>quite possibly the least comprehensive test of up-to-date marketshare on the planet

>>60514564
You're more retarded than I thought.

You claimed AMD sales were higher. Then you countered your own point by saying there are more Intel systems (hello, SALES?) that skew the results, you goddamn mong.

Neck yourself immediately, you may be dangerous to someone who actually matters.

>>60514601
I am not the original poster you are arguing with. I wouldn't have regarded the Steam survey as evidence of anything, but you are an idiot if you believe that Intel having more sales in prebuilts and laptops is evidence of anything, as Ryzen isn't even available on those platforms yet.

No one really knows how Ryzen is selling vs. Intel yet, we won't have any real data for another couple of months.

>>60514601
What he is saying is that the statistics are from a sample that skews in favor of Intel compared to the general populace and therefore using that sample to judge all sales is wrong.

Very basic statistics, of course what he says is not necessarily true because that sample could be a decent representation of the whole populace, but whatever.

>>60514635
Steam survey is a widely used source among game developers.
The burden of proof is on you if you're trying to claim that it's wrong.

>>60513297
>EVERYONE SHOULD'VE FLIPPED OVER TO AMD THE MOMENT THEY PUT OUT A COMPETITIVE PRODUCT

>>60515063
>Asspulled claim provided without any evidence
>The burden is on you to waste your time refuting this claim I just made up
Fuck off.

I've seen one steam survey pop up in like 3 years.

>>60513201
>utterly rapes Intel 8c16t 1100 USD CPU
>cost 1/3
>more power efficient
Definitely not a success because in some retarded games it performs worse than a 350 USD overheating 4c8t CPU.
Fuck, you are retarded.

>>60515063
>make claim
>no proof
>BURDEN'S ON YOU BUDDY

>>60513311
They literally do that, tho. I just got the survey participation call a week or so ago myself. I have Intel CPU though, so I wasn't bolstering the Ryzen ranks.

>>60513201
And how many of these users are poorfags on laptops?

>>60515618
The proof is steam survey, retard. Steam is the largest gaming platform out there. Many game developers base their games on the info available through steam. So it is a reliable source. Unless, of course, you can prove otherwise.

>>60514545
They are not fucking tied at any resolution. It is just that there are gpu bottlenecks on higher resolutions. Remove that bottleneck and the difference will be the same.

>>60516050
Prove it.

>>60516033
And AMD users are known for being tech enthusiasts. Meaning they're less likely to allow steam to probe their system by no checking the box that says steam will spy on you, during the install.
All steam confirms is that intel users are cucks.

>>60516033
The survey is opt-in and doesn't go to everyone at once. It's a maybe once a month survey with completely random people.

It's literally the least reliable.

>>60514430
>2 completely different architectures give same fps with difference around 1 fps.
Seems quite legit. No gpu bottleneck here for sure.
I swear, the level of amd shill is dropping every day - now respectable sources are some barely popular youtuber and unsigned tests with obvious gpu bottleneck.

>>60516074
Prove it. All I hear is your opinion, not facts.

>>60516080
Seems quite legit, not providing any evidence in your post at all.

>>60516070
>And AMD users are known for being tech enthusiasts
jesus christ, do you really believe this? So, this is why you shill amd so much? MUH CLOSED HAXKER CLUB?
All amd owners that I know bought it for the fucking low price and nothing else. And the real programmers that I know all own intel and fucking nvidia, cause they are not poor and can afford a gpu higher than 1060 level.

>>60516094
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
>Participation in the survey is optional, and anonymous.
But, I'm sure you're just a Sea Lion.

>>60516050
By the time you wouldn't be GPU bottlenecked at 4k, you can upgrade to Zen2 on IBM's 7nm process which will crucify Intel in both IPC and clockrate.

>>60516178
>>Participation in the survey is optional, and anonymous.
So what? The sample is large enough. Or do you poses any evidence to prove that amd owners are less likely to participate? For all I know you fuckers are eager to show your knew ryzens.

>>60516070
There really aren't that many tech enthusiasts out there anyway, so AMD is screwed either way if they're the only people buying their products.

>>60516070
>And AMD users are known for being tech enthusiasts
So, tech enthusiasts bought fx instead of godly sandy bridge? Or did your tech enthusiasts stayed on phenoms until march 2017?
Do tech enthusiasts only use inferior hot gpus? Could they only afford 1060 analog in 2016?

The whole fucking strategy of amd in the past decade is - CHEAP SHIT. Until now amd had no worthwhile cpu since pentium 4 era. All professionals use intel in this day and age.

>>60516137
Pretty much, unless they bought it prebuilt. And we all know how limited they are on the market.
AMD is generally something you have to go out of your way for. Something you need to research about. Unlike Intel being stocked at every corner store.
>All amd owners that I know bought it for the fucking low price and nothing else.
They wouldn't buy it if it didn't preform well for the price. They're looking for something that isn't expencive, but does near or better than the competition.
Where as the average Intel user buy based on what iX it is. Even if it's several generations behind. Because the number is bigger, it must be faster.
Same problem arises with nVidia users buying 1050's to upgrade from 970's.

>>60516200
They only sample a portion of the userbase and only the portion of those that opt-in are actually surveyed.

The sample size isn't as large as you think, but hey, if you can find me hard numbers on how many people participate in the survey I'll listen.

>>60516286
>They wouldn't buy it if it didn't preform well for the price
Are you telling me someone bought FX for the performance?

>>60516302
Multicore, yes.

>>60516302
Well there are some people who bought a 7700K for overclocking, so everything is possible...

>>60516364
Jesus christ, this is how retarded you are.
Every fucking professional and enthusiast in the past 8 years used intel. HEDT only intel. Server only intel. No fucking "PC enthusiast" would ever buy fucking FX.

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>>60513271
>this the 2nd post in this thread
>still goes on for 100+ posts of poos vs jews action for the 10,000th time

You guys just love slapping your dicks together, don't you?

>>60513871
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/new-cpu-z-upgrade-lowers-ryzen-performance.html

CPU-Z is a joke benchmark.

>>60513871
>I'll just wait for Coffeelake
You know the single core and OC will suck on that compared to the 4 cores, right?

>>60513890
>Intel's entire lineup of CPUs which provide better price points
So wrong it's not even funny.

>>60513201
But I'll be getting a Ryzen CPU black Friday.

>>60513201
because ryzen is still unknown and also more expensive in a lot of the world compared to intel.

>>60514172
>>60514197
>>60514241
>>60514281
>>60514408
What is with constantly bring up bulldozer and FX as if it were at all relevant anymore?

>>60514346
>It's so hilarious how some of the media have been shilling for AMD while the metrics don't lie.
There's been nothing but positive reviews for Ryzen R5 and the most you can say is that Ryzen R7 got a few bad reviews due to it's niche status. Shilling, my ass. AMD doesn't even have enough reserves to buy off reviewers.

>Anyway nobody is bying Ryzen dude.
lol. >>60513271

>>60516653
>also more expensive in a lot of the world

Maybe in third world shitholes, but in countries that actually matter. Like the USA, it isn't.

>>60516700
>What is with constantly bring up bulldozer and FX as if it were at all relevant anymore?


Its what shills do, they're trying to paint ryzen as the new faildozer.

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>>60514245
>>60514262
How is your second post any better than the first? WTF?

>>60513201
I don't understand you fucking neets dude. The fact that any of you feel allegiance with either one of the major cpu makers is fucking retarded.
>numbers don't lie intel is better
>numbers don't lie amd is better
Amd is better at tasks that can take advantage of more threads, and pretty OK(currently) at talks that don't.
Intel has the single, and lightly threaded tasks, and is shit at multi(when comparing chips via price)

IF YOUR BROWING INTERNET, GET PENTIUM, IF PURELY GAMING GET 7700K, IF STREAMING GET 1400 OR 1600, IF WORKSTATION GET 1700.

So simple. So easy, so clean.

>>60516763
>So simple. So easy, so clean.
This is agreed upon. But then there are amd shills that claim 1700 to be on the same level as 7700k in gaming.

>>60514346
I bought a 1400. Pretty good bang for the buck. And, I know this is crazy, but it actually functions as a cpu. I know, I know.

>>60516782
What? Maybe a few games that are heavily multi threaded, but that's like,what, 5 games max????

>>60516782
It will be in most cases. Since the only way to get the CPU to bottleneck in games is to run them at 720p (which nobody does) or low graphics (which nobody does)

>>60516366
nothing against the 7700K but this made me spit my drink

>well played

>>60516727
>this arrogance

and this is why amd is losing cpu and gpu marketshare all the time. they only focus on america.

>>60513201
Delete this!

Half this thread invested 10k in AMD

>>60516763
you see
>>60516860 no limits to shilling

>>60516879
>and this is why amd is losing cpu and gpu marketshare all the time. they only focus on america.

Uh, no, they lost CPU marketshare because bulldozer sucked. And they keep losing GPU marketshare because they don't get the advertisement nvidia does, also because RTG is incompetent as fuck, e.g VEGA.

>>60516914
I'm not shilling, I don't use AMD nor do I want you to buy AMD. I'm just telling you the truth, which is that you aren't going to see real world difference between a 7700K and Ryzen 7 in games because neither CPU is going to bottleneck.

>>60516653
this is a legit concern that AMD should be working on

I don't know enough about supply chain management to know how a corporation addresses this. Distribution deal with amazon or something?

If I were AMD I would actively be pursuing blue ocean strategy and trying to be in the right place at the right time when home VM/cloud/NAS appliances become the norm. Ryzen could do this but something like that takes sustained mindshare as much as market share and ryzen is a surprise which means it's inherently not the norm.

I am dying to see naples pricing. I may buy my first (new) dual socket board

>>60513201
>survey that appears only when you install steam, results from april
>realiable source for measuring recent changes in market share
Pick one and only one.

>>60517380
It appears way more often than that.

>>60517380
That survey doesn't happen only when you install steam. It took steam 7 years to send that survey to me, and I had it installed on various computers the whole time.

>>60513201
Coin mining has ramped up in the past year and lots of new miners are buying tons of 4xx/5xx series cards.

>>60518707
But it's not helping Ryzen's sales one bit.

>>60518986
Nice asspulled opinion, senpai.

>>60518992
The truth hurts.

>>60519365
Prove it. Show me the sales data.

>>60513890
>Even Intel considers their own older processors to be more serious competition than AMD.
Yeah, that's why they put out a marketing bulletin on how to "deal with" ryzen with hilarious shit like "we have optane". And they pushed Coffee Lake-S ahead by half a year, and will be dropping prices on their HEDT products. Totally not concerned at all!

Why do all the retarded kids from /v/ use video game benchmarks to base their choice of CPU on? That only makes a difference if you have a GPU bottleneck, which 99% of people don't have unless the only game you play is stuff like CS:GO at 1280x1024

>>60513311
I opted out. It helps amd since I run intel now.

>>60514297
I'll consider amd when it's able to perform how I want it to with the software I like. Ryzen is so fucking awesome at all the shit that I don't use, do, or play on a PC.

>>60513201
they are pushing intel to do new shit, so i say ryzen is a huge success.

>>60519693
It's how you know the marketing team has done a successful job. It's equally cringeworthy as people loving Macs

>>60516947
>I'm just telling you the truth, which is that you aren't going to see real world difference between a 7700K and Ryzen 7 in games because neither CPU is going to bottleneck.

Unfortunately this isn't true. It all depends on the "game". There's some niche games that ryzen (and most stock clocked Intel's) can't play at a steady 60+fps while using respectable in game settings.

>>60520665
ARMA 3 isn't a game, it's an overgrown tacticool simulator.

>>60520665
Oh fuck off. Settings have nothing to do with this, you're talking about games like ArmA3 and Cities Skylines that run like garbage even on OC Intel systems because they only have a single thread and are optimized like garbage.

You might as well just get an i3 for those games since it can easily hold a 24/7 5GHz overclock, much better than a 7700K or anything else. So gamers who play that stuff can get away with much cheaper shit than either Ryzen or i7. Then again, I play those games on a 2GHz Haswell while my friend has a 4.2GHz Skylake and both of us get meh performance most of the time, so in the end you might as well not even bother thinking about them as far as selecting parts for performance goes and instead concentrate on workloads that actually benefit from having decent hardware.

>>60520785
I don't know about Arma, but Skylines actually uses all my four cores pretty well.

>>60520785
>Oh fuck off.

KYS faggot

>Settings have nothing to do with this, you're talking about games like ArmA3

Settings has everything to do with it. On MP and users shit up side chat complaining about fps, or "hackers" killing them all because they set visibility under 3000 just to get 30fps.


>and Cities Skylines that run like garbage even on OC Intel systems because they only have a single thread and are optimized like garbage.

Runs fine on my machines.

>You might as well just get an i3 for those games since it can easily hold a 24/7 5GHz overclock, much better than a 7700K or anything else.

Valid option I guess. I'd also suggest to get overclocked ram.

>So gamers who play that stuff can get away with much cheaper shit than either Ryzen or i7.

7700k gets more fps, but yeah pretty much any Intel that can clock high.

>Then again, I play those games on a 2GHz Haswell while my friend has a 4.2GHz Skylake and both of us get meh performance most of the time, so in the end you might as well not even bother thinking about them as far as selecting parts for performance goes and instead concentrate on workloads that actually benefit from having decent hardware.

Never said that people shouldn't focus their build around what they intend to run anon, and your full of shit if you're claiming that your 2ghz haswell gets similar performance as a 4.2ghz skylake with arma 3 unless you're hosting the dedicated server while playing.

>>60520982
*AMD users

>>60520982
Notice how you said memory performance helps? Well my haswell has more memory performance. So how about that? Maybe you're lying and memory performance doesn't help?

Okay, i'm legit confused at what the fuck AMD is doing. So their newest products, the threadripper, won't be on the AM4 socket. What's going to happen with AM4 then?

Also, don't get me started on their graphics team.
>still waiting for Vega

>>60521090
>Okay, i'm legit confused at what the fuck AMD is doing. So their newest products, the threadripper, won't be on the AM4 socket. What's going to happen with AM4 then?

No you aren't shill, you are concern trolling. Threadripper isn't for average consumer. AM4 will be supported up to Ryzen 3.

While intel changes sockets every fucking year it seems.

>>60521076
Memory performance helps, but I doubt you're running 3200mhz ddr3 ram on your 2ghz haswell for the high hopes of up to 15% improvement. Might as well get a faster CPU at that point.

>>60521126
Probably should clarify, AM4 will be supported up to Zen 3. So you have far more upgrade options with AMD.

>>60521126
So they'll be manufacturing two sockets for now and years on up, one for consumer and other for business? They're still going to produce shit for AM4 for a few more years, right?

>muh shilling
Fuck off

>>60521134
I don't even need to run 3200MHz DDR4, because I have 256bit memory bus vs a 128bit memory bus on the Intel consumer platform.
It's pretty easy to get high memory performance without pumping clocks when you have double the bus width.

>>60521166
>They're still going to produce shit for AM4 for a few more years, right?

Yes, you could have googled this easily available information.

>muh shilling
>Fuck off

Well if you aren't shilling you are just retarded.

>>60521223
well AMD promises alot of shit that doesn't happen so excuse my faggotry for being concerned.

>>60521170>I don't even need to run 3200MHz DDR4, because I have 256bit memory bus vs a 128bit memory bus on the Intel consumer platform.

You're a fucking idiot, and I hope no one ever accepts advice from you.

Your 2ghz haswell does not run Arma 3 as fast as your "friends" 4.2ghz haswell. I'm starting to doubt that you even have a computer, friends, or Arma 3. Maybe you have 2 out of 3 at best.

>>60514348
fuckung loled

>>60521345
Why did you attempt to, and in the process fail to quote that line, when your reply has nothing to do with the quoted line and is instead a rage fueled attack on my personality.

I hope Intel pays you a lot of money, because otherwise you're hurting your emotional stability for nothing by getting randomly unhinged like that.

>>60513201
Intel bought AMD graphics

>>60513350
i dont like how steam also logs all installed programs.

>>60520982
This post is making my eyes glaze over from the autism.

>>60521411
Not like it matters since you can just decline to participate.

>>60521090
>So their newest products, the threadripper, won't be on the AM4 socket. What's going to happen with AM4 then?

AM4 is their 2-channel DDR4 platform, so it'll be fine for desktops for the next 3-4 years, when DDR5 starts to become real.

The 4-channel ThreadRipper platform will never be for mainstream, nor will the 8/16-channel Epyc platform.

>>60521398
>Why did you attempt to, and in the process fail to quote that line, when your reply has nothing to do with the quoted line and is instead a rage fueled attack on my personality.

>I hope Intel pays you a lot of money, because otherwise you're hurting your emotional stability for nothing by getting randomly unhinged like that.

*eddit the post.

Bring it back to when you said your haswell @ 2ghz runs Arma 3 as well as your friends 4.2ghz skylake. I imagine that you said this to soften the blow for all the ryzen owners who can't run this game for shit.

Just stop being a fag anon you're killing /g.

>>60521444
Trips forever ruined.

>>60521527
Ryzen owners can run the game fine. I ran it okay on an i5 750 a long time ago. I doubt a Ryzen is worse than i5 750.

You're killing /g/ yourself by being a blind consumetard who only has 2 binary options. Either you get the best performance in this one special snowflake benchmark or you chose the wrong product. You're not talking about playable vs unplayable, you're literally talking about which gets higher performance in a single core workload and the one which gets less performance isn't an option. Regardless of whether the experience you get is bad, decent, good, excellent. It doesn't matter. What matters to you is that you get higher numbers.

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>>60521166
Probably 3 or 4 sockets.
2 for server 1 for consumer desktop and 1 for HEDT.

>>60521658
25fps vs 75fps in kavala is a huge difference. I have both btw (for different tasks), but neither company pays me to sugarcoat, or tiptoe around issues on /g/, so I just calls it how I sees it.

Ryzen is shit for games with unoptimized code like BIS games, and other popular simulators. Intel is stingy as fuck with threads, so they get fucked in software that takes advantage of them.

>>60521883
are there actually going to be two different Epyc sockets?

>>60521906
And that lying motherfuckers 2ghz haswell does not run Arma 3 as well as his fat mom's 4.2ghz skylake.

>>60521937
Not much is known at this time but there could be a socket for low end quad channel memory dual die chips and one for octo channel memory quad die chips. I'm just speculating though. Can't seem to find much information about the platform .

>>60513201
>steam

>>60513311
i can and do literally decline the steam botnet survey every time

>>60513297
>implying this isnt what intelcucks are doing

>>60521403
That's still not confirmed, it did get some heat last week but it's an old rumor

>>60521403
That would actually be a blessing, since the AMD leadership clearly isn't getting much done.