/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

first for linux

Second for Gentoo reigns supreme!

Reminder that Ubuntu is the only good linux distro that just works.

>>60503775
GNU/Linux*

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Friendly daily reminder, it's Linux.

>>60503775
>>60503791
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>60503775
No!

>>60503793
You're right. Combined with GNU, it's GNU/Linux.

>>60503718
>/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/749768(Dead)
Change the link >>>/t/769497

>>60503839
Actually it's just GNU. That X/Y stuff is inane; look at Android. Nobody calls it Android/Linux.

redpill me on systemd
why are people avoiding it?

>>60503878
I avoid it because /g/ says it's NSA botnet. I don't actually know why I use OpenRC. I pretty much do whatever /g/ tell me to do, bought a T420, installed Gentoo etc. etc.

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>>60503878

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>>60503893
Who is this /g/?

>>60503911
>0503911systemd.png (122 KB, 1228x754)
How is this bad?

>

DetectIntelGPU(){
GPU=$(awk '{print $2}' /proc/fb)
case $GPU in
 *intel*) GPU=intel ;;
esac
if [ $GPU = intel ]
then
 local CPU=$(uname -p | awk '{print $3}')
 CPU=${CPU#*'-'};
 case $CPU in
   [3-6][3-9][0-5]|[3-6][3-9][0-5][K-Y]) GPU='Intel HD Graphics' ;;
   2[1-5][0-3][0-2]*|2390T|2600S) GPU='Intel HD Graphics 2000' ;;
   2[1-5][1-7][0-8]*|2105|2500K) GPU='Intel HD Graphics 3000' ;;
   32[1-5]0*|3[4-5][5-7]0*|33[3-4]0*) GPU='Intel HD Graphics 2500' ;;
   3570K|3427U) GPU='Intel HD Graphics 4000' ;;
   4[3-7][0-9][0-5]*) GPU='Intel HD Graphics 4600' ;;
   5[5-6]75[C-R]|5350H) GPU='Intel Iris Pro Graphics 6200' ;;
 esac
fi
}

>no amd detection code
Its the (((jews)))

>>60503878
>>60503931
You are obvious bait, but grsecurity already prove this risk

>>60503962
which risk?

>>60503931
Don't know for the others, but why would I need it with all its surface when runit with 1200 lines of code does the same and faster? Too much stuff in the same place leads to bad things, "systemd as the core os" can and will lead to a lot of unhappy things in my opinion.

>>60503951
>>>/pol/

>>60504113
>>>/r/eddit

>>60504113

hello google, you don't have anything to do uh

>>60504113
bait

>>60504125
kys kike

>>60504125
you need to go back

>>60504182
oh ,nice diversion.

Anybody have any luck easily installing DaVinci Resolve 14 and/or Fusion 8 in Ubuntu?

The installers appear to be .sh files. I tried installing it on my OS but in doing so I think I broke my OS and I will have to reinstall.

I also tried the CentOS .iso that Blackmagic offers and that didn't do any good either.

>>60504007
>can and will lead to a lot of unhappy things in my opinion
>opinion
It will or it won't dumbass

>>60504221
that's fucking clever, son, how did you get to it?

>>60504268
fuck you kiddo

>>60504214
What commands did you run and why do you think your OS is broken?

>>60504277
>friendly thread
wew lad, gonna kill myself now that you called me kiddo, kiddo

>>60504277
Please behave.

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ignore the systemd apologist

i have Intel Core2 Duo. its Slackware for me?

>>60504296
>>60504299
>it needs to be friendly thread when my feelings a getting hurt
dd your disk and end your life

>>60504324
no, Arch

>>60504284

chmod +x Resolve_14_betaDaVinci_Resolve_14.0b2_Linux.sh
sudo Resolve_14_betaDaVinci_Resolve_14.0b2_Linux.sh

and then when I tried executing it, it was always missing something so then id install it, and it would move onto the next thing

sudo apt-get install libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev
sudo apt-get install lbssl-dev
sudo apt-get install libcudart7.5
sudo apt-get install libnvrtc7.5
sudo apt-get install libqt5multimedia5
sudo apt-get install libavformat-dev

But it will still not recognize libavformat no matter what; now when I try to use the OS though I get the error box popping up. I'm just going to reinstall ubuntu and use Resolve when someone figures out an easy normie way to install it.

>>60504354
B-but Arch have systemd (I dont want systemd)... why Slackware no is for me?

is it possible to have the keyboard focus in a different window than the mouse focus? running ubuntu with unity but willing to switch for this

>>60504412
>I dont want systemd
why

>>60504412
If you don't want systemd Void is pretty similiar to Arch. I don't see why you shouldn't try slackware though, see what happens

>>60504474
I just do not like systemd.

for Slackware it's necessary compiling?

I have been fumbling around with xubuntu for a day now, and I paused for a second I thought
>What are the dangers of using GNU plus Linux?
Should I be wary of viruses?

>>60504525
Get the Slackware book, it will tell you everything you need to know about it. http://www.slackbook.org/html/index.html

This printed copy is also excellent https://store.slackware.com/cgi-bin/store/slackbook?id=7Bch55iI&mv_pc=61

GuixSD also doesn't use systemd

>>60503775
Ubuntu 17.04 is broken ootb
Ubuntu 16.04 ships shitty pre-4.10 kernel that crashes on ryzen
Ubuntu my ass

Antergos master race

>>60504548
Yes, Linux by default is the most insecure system available today unless you do the following:

- you configure iptables (or an external router) to block all ports you don't use
- you use firejail to run your browser in, or you run a VM with the browser in it (KVM good for immediately loading up a browser in a VM)
- you keep on top on security updates, you should see your distro's documentation how to automatically script this
- you should read pdfs in a VM, or temp filesystem/jail/chroot
- you should install portable LibreSSL, it just compiles clean and make install is simple though you would have to keep this updated and you probably won't.

>>60504524
I try void linux today. But, truly i don't feel secure in Void. Void it's trustworthy? it's paranoia? I want a secure system.

[privacyfag here]

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>>60504629
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>60504629
ebin

>>60504645
Grsecurity stopped releasing public patches, I think (did they change this?) only Hardened Gentoo project is allowed access to the testing patches anymore.

Probably the best Linux version as way as security out of the box (meaning by default, this is activated) is Fedora/Redhat. Latest Fedora uses Wayland, and at least SELinux policies so you can jail things. They're also the first with any updates because they're commercial distros.

Otherwise just run any FSF approved distro, and in a VM run SubgraphOS for whatever privacy related things you need.

>>60504682
>fedora
>commercial

>>60504548
>Should I be wary of viruses?
Not really, most viruses are written for W*dows

>>60504548
No, unless you install WINE and then proceed to install a malware like wannacry MANUALLY you'll be okay

>>60504629
>Linux by default is the most insecure system available today
wtf I hate linux now

>>60504682
No, hardened team will have to fork grsec or use something else.

>>60504645
There's little difference in security between distros. Package update policy, security software available. Xen is in the repos, SELinux is not "properly" implemented yet, gcc and the kernel come already with hardened flags and what no. It's pretty okay, but it's no gentoo hardened. The latter comes with costs of time and performances, though, so you have to balance what you want and what you can afford to spend time with.

ITT Red Hat & NSA shills

Please /fglt/, I need your help
I'm on Kubuntu and updated last night, everything was doing alright. Today, I boot up and NetworkManager won't connect to my wireless network and stalls at configuring interface.
If I connect manually to the network trough wpa_supplicant

sudo wpa_supplicant -Dnl80211 -iwlx002275767542 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf

sudo dhclient wlx002275767542

everything works as usual. Is there anything I can do?
I tried to follow Archwiki's wpa_supplicant page and tried to

enable [email protected]

but Kubuntu tells me that there's no such file or directory. Maybe this is only an Arch thing?

/fglt/, you're my only hope!

>>60504712
They pay people to work on Fedora, and it's fully sponsored by Redhat. It's essentially a commercial distro though free as in price

>>60504589
Not him but thanks

>>60504773
did you accidently toggle your wifi switch?

>>60504774
testbed for RHEL*
>inb4 myth page

>>60504766
it has been like this since day 1

>>60504784
No, I did not, it's a USB dongle, it is recognized and, as I said, when I manually connect with wpa_supplicant it works.
The thing is I'd rather have it automaticlaly connect on boot.

>>60504761
What a jew spender and the guy from pax are, then again nobody else is working on it.

Wonder what a subscription to Grsecurity costs

>>60504589

Thanks! I read this. I have fear to install Slackware for long times of compiling software, my core2 Duo is shit. I have understand, what Slackware have binary packages, but are very few, or very outdated.

>>60504682

I try Gentoo If it was not for my shit-tier pc. I personally don't like the Fedora/Redhat way. Thanks for your tips!

>>60504806
It depends on what you do, probably for "personal" use it's around 200$, if my memory serves me well.. however they have a strict policy about leaking stuff and will find a way to end business with you.

Grsec's a fucking mess, but it's the ony thing we had in the last decade. Perhaps something better will spawn from its ashes, but I doubt it.

>>60504806
I just found what it costs, starts at $200/month to receive patches you can't redistribute and they are unlikely to let anybody except large corporations use it due to fear of leaks.

Feel so weird that the menu and the tray us up at the top.
The bottom feels so much cleaner

>>60504863
ok

>>60504837
So apparently there was some upstream attempt to port Grsec/Pax changes and google chose to not work with them which is why they went fully subscription only http://www.openwall.com/lists/kernel-hardening/2017/05/11/2

Also it's highly annoying that both pipacs (Pax 'team') http://phrack.org/issues/66/2.html and spender write highly autist walls of text and could not be more dramatic if they were 14yr old girls.

tl;dr kernel security in Linux is totally fucked for the forseeable future

>>60504990
Both PAX guys and spengler are autistic. Can't blame them when Intel took their patches and put their logo on it, but that's excepted for an open source project. Still, that's not a good way to end it. A shame hardening is not a priority for the kernel devs. They said they'd accept patches but grsec code quaity made that impossible for them to accept. There was that project. what was it, KSSP? I don't remember the name, they took part of grsec code and tried to rewrite it. Don't know what happened after but I agree, that's bad for sure, especially us paranoid freaks, kek.

>>60504990
>google involved in the grsecurity conflict
sorry to be that one guy pointing at the obvious conspiracy

>>60503718
Linux*

>>60503718
All of my friends just call the OS "Linux." Why do you refer to it as GNU/Linux?

>>60505081
systemd/Linux*

>>60505087
sysv/Linux*

>>60505081
>>60505086
fuck off nigger

>>60505118
>not using superior core os
what are you, not lennart?

>>60505125
GNU/nigger*

Installed Ndiswrapper on Manjaro Linux, installed my WiFi driver, shows that it installed properly according to a guide, yet I still can't connect to my WiFi network, what do?

>use Linux to format external HDD into NTFS so I can use it on Linux and Windows systems
>data cannot be accessed afterward, some files are missing

>format the same HDD into NTFS in Windows
>works perfectly in both Linux and Windows

Is NTFS formatting bugged in Linux or something?

>>60505237
GNU/Linux*

>>60505237
>using Windows

what are some cool free games?

>>60505656
All games are free

>>60504525
>I just don't like systemd
Why?

>>60505656
Extreme Tux Racer, Xonotic, 0ad

>>60505691
Most games are disgustingly proprietary.

>>60505656
supertuxkart

>>60504593
>Antergos
>master race
>distro for people who want arch but are too stupid to just install arch
>master race

>>60505762
Oh you ment the retard version of free.
Then none cause the developers are all jacking off to the license instead of making the game

>>60505048
KSPP debacle is elaborated here http://www.openwall.com/lists/kernel-hardening/2017/05/11/2

The basic gestalt:
>so what do we have so far about this KSPP business? Google and other companies made a decision to get our work upstream using their own resources only - so far so good, it's their business in every sense of the word. not involving us however turned out to be an unwise decision when they realized that their employees are completely unprepared for this work (we'll discuss some examples later). this then led to all kinds of social engineering attempts at trying to get us to help them out - all without getting paid for our time, as if we were just supposed to drop all other work and spend our free time on fixing their botched up attempts. as if this still wasn't disgusting and outragous enough, they went on the combative and had the guts to accuse us of not wanting to cooperate without also mentioning that they expected all this work from us for free

tl;dr
-KSPP is a joke project to just cut+paste grsec patches into upstream
-nobody at google knows what they're doing and couldn't get it to merge
-they refused to pay pipacs or spender for help doing so
-????
-there presently is no effort to secure the Linux kernel whatsoever and it's business as usual

>>60505656
Red Eclipse

>>60505778
The expression “the Linux kernel” can easily be misunderstood as meaning “the kernel of Linux” and implying that Linux must be more than a kernel. You can avoid the possibility of this misunderstanding by saying or writing “the kernel, Linux” or “Linux, the kernel”.

>>60505777
Do you know where you are?

>>60505656
0 a.d.

>>60505795
>implying Linux isn't an operating system

>>60505819
>implying implications

>>60505844
>implying I give a fuck

>>60505237
yeah, that has also been happening for years with flash drivers formated on linux not working on windows despite compatible filesystem

they simply hate linux

https://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/08/03/1614223/windows-10-anniversary-update-borks-dual-boot-partitions

I finally uncucked myself from wangblows for a lot of reasons, moving to Fedora now and maybe later to another distro, but the only software that doesn't have a real alternative is Photoshop, so I think I have two options: either run a VM or use Wine/Playonlinux.
I know the performance will take a hit either way, but what I want to know is if anyone has tried these methods and knows how fast/stable they are.
As far as I've read, the VM approach will make it run slower and Wine/PoL has random bugs.
Also, which one is the latest version you've tried? I would like to use CC 2017 mainly for Content-aware among other options, but I could go back to, at most, CS6.

I think this other one is Windows exclusive but I'll ask anyway: any search software like Everything? I was quite used to its speed.

What's thinks about GuixSD? Is ready to use?

>>60505995
Gimp is a very suitable replacement for ps.
You can even find themes and other packs that replicate 1:1 the keybinds and placement of windows to that of ps.
You can also run ps cs6 on wine perfectly fine despite gimp being a replacement

>>60505982
Linux is the name of the kernel that Linus Torvalds developed starting in 1991. The operating system in which Linux is used is basically GNU with Linux added. To call the whole system "Linux" is both unfair and confusing. Please call the complete system GNU/Linux, both to give the GNU Project credit and to distinguish the whole system from the kernel alone.

>>60506045
I use it but I have custom hardware of mainly free drivers so haven't had a problem. You can run it in a VM if your proprietary motherboard or ethernet or w/e has issues.

It uses the Linux libre kernel so will be missing driver blobs.

You can also just drop Guix into any existing distro like Debian or whatever. More info here
http://dustycloud.org/misc/talks/guix/chicagolug_2015/guix_talk.html

>>60506082
Amusingly wrong. It is systemd/Linux, or as I call it, systemd with Linux, because your efforts are going to be replaced, mr. Stallman, by the industry standard and soon to be Core OS.

>>60505656

Real time strategy: 0 A. D., OpenDungeons, OpenRA, Seven Kingdoms
Turn based strategy: UFO AI, Freeciv, FreeOrion, The Battle for Wesnoth.
Space flight simulators: FreeSpace, Oolite, Vega Strike
FPS: Xonotic, Urban Terror, World of Padman
Roguelikes (sysadmins hobby): Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead, Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup, GearHead, NetHack

Also try FreedroidRPG, fucking amazing soundtrack dude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-UZux-199k

>>60506208
>RTS
>not mentioning Warzone2100

>>60506083
I have not problem with my hardware in Parabola, i am supposed what in GuixSD should not have problems.

You use GuixSD how your main system?

>>60506082
t. Smallman
how do you know he's not talking about the kernel

>>60506245
if that is the case, I missed other GPL'led games like FreeDink

>>60505656
gnugo

Does running abandonware software respects my freedom?

>>60506508
Like what? Although probably not, stay with GPL code.

>>60506508
Only if the source code is FOSS licensed.

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>>60505995
>search software like Everything
ANGRYsearch https://github.com/DoTheEvo/ANGRYsearch

>>60504357
any luck on running it?

>>60506268
Yes but there's some caveats
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Limitations.html#Limitations

I use i3 for a desktop, and 80% of my desktop work is just programming in emacs and reading pdfs so you may have other uses. I also use guix environment as a docker-type container for building shit.

GuixSD is awesome write just one file for entire config, type 'guix deploy' and upon reboot you have that exact system

>>60506549
>>60506700
Like old software back from DOS, when there's no GPL or whatever.

>>60506864
If you have the source code and it doesn't have a any license in particular, then it's public domain and, yes, it's free as in freedom.

>>60506076
Thanks, I tried Gimp on Windows and coincidentally that's when the PC started to fail a lot, and the pen didn't work among other stuff that had some weird bugs so I'm even more prejudiced against it. I'll go with CS6 on Wine.

>>60506754
Awesome, I'll try it. Thanks.

>>60506754
>ANGRYsearch
reminder that a fellow anon did this

>>60506975
Use gimp

Question about bootloaders.

I have one disk with windows on it, and a new ssd to put fedora on. Do I need to install grub on that ssd, or would that mess with my windows drive? I've never more than one non-virtual install before

>>60507168
install it on your ssd and use grub os-prober to setup the windows portion

>>60507379
Is there not a bootloader on machine already if I have windows installed?

>>60507461
There is, and it does not like linux bootloaders.You have to use grub if you want a dual boot setup

>https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2017-8890
>backdoors in IPv4
Wow. I thought you dipshits said that this was supposed to be secure?
>make network application
>any application
>it's exploitable because Linux is shit

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hi friendos

as per installgentoo wiki:The Java and Java Deployment Toolkit Plug-Ins are installed with the Java Runtime Environment. While the Runtime Environment itself is often necessary for the use of desktop Java software, these plug-ins are extremely vulnerable and rarely used. They should be disabled in all cases.

how do i disable them?

>>60507494
wtf I hate linux now

>>60507494
linux BTFO

>>60503718
I unironically kek's at the Pepe/Linux and GNU/Pepe.

>>60507589
you should unironically end your life

>>60507612
Friendly thread.

>>60507494
better back to windows!

>>60507635
NT*

>>60507475
Alright thanks

arch new kernel when

>>60507934
Arch,

no idea, anon.

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>want to stick to ubuntu because all the support is there
>want to be a normie
>drawn to both solus and manjaro

please help

what is the best wallpaper for linux?

>>60507968
>solus
meme
>manjaro
arch for invalids

>>60508042
Richard Stallman (the creator of Linux)
Get some hot pixxx here: https://rms.sexy

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does anyone have the webm that debunks this meme?

>>60507168
Don't you have a modern (as in made in last 10 years) mobo where you can choose the boot startup by pressing F7 or something, pick the ssd to boot Foodora and just make sure the installation doesn't overwrite the other winblows drive.

Can someone help me blacklist the amdgpu driver?

I have it blacklisted in the proper config file location, but running lspci -vnn shows that it's still in use.

I'm on Arch

>>60507565
>>60507565
>>60507565
>>60507565

>>60508061
not them but I think shitting on those would be a meme

>>60507968
I too have that problem, I really like Budgie but I also really like Manjaro

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>>60508092
I had to google how to draw the circle.

>>60508279
shut up kevin

>>60508308
shut up kevin

>>60508300
what wm is that

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I really want to switch to Linux but I don't want to leave Windows 7 -- has anyone else struggled with this?
I know I could load Linux from a flash drive or CD to test drive it but that feels like it would be a waste of time; if I'm going to get it, I would rather jump right in. Dual booting might be the best option? I'll need to look into how that works because I don't want to lose any of my current Windows shit.

...also I'm a little worried that I won't be able to find a decent replacement for CDisplay and foobar2000.

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>https://www.linux.com/learn/intro-to-linux/2017/5/how-kill-process-command-line
guess how? killall -9 chrome

>>60508401
do a virtualbox of it to get the hang of it. not like you will be doing gpu intensive stuff anyways

>>60508405
>not using archive.is
What is wrong with you.

>>60507968
Solus is comfy. Not sure what people have against a group of guys creating new free software. At least Solus is a full fledged independent distro. Software support is getting pretty good. Just need to iron out some bugs.

>>60508450
I would say its because people want to stay in their "exclusive club", and become hostile when other "clubs" pop up. They worry that the other club will eventually get more popular than theirs and cause their club to close shop.

Bad analogy.

>>60508506

Yeah. I mean, I have made an Arch system before, and I enjoy the Arch ecosystem, but maintaining and setting up my desktop was a chore. I like the idea of semi rolling release distros. Give a week to test it out on the system then push them. Solus and Manjaro do this and it's a great comprimise.

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>fresh install of kubuntu 17.04
>HL2 benchmark
>120-130 fps with bumblebee in primusrun
>270-280 fps with prime select set to nvidia
I'm going to dual boot windows for vidya but still

>>60508432
Neat. I didn't realize that virtualbox was free. I'll do this -- thank you.

how do I substitute all spaces in vim?

>>60508626
:'<,'>s/ //g

>>60508663
>'<,'>
is the text you have visually selected

>>60503718
Wojak GNU when?

>>60508663
>>60508681
actually, those were some unicode whitspace characters, not regular spaces
never mind

>>60508718
this, wojak fits much better to gnu
pepe for linux is perfect

>>60508436
It's easier to just post the link

>>60506045
Do note it breaks free from the FHS so obviously scripts that depend on it will break. I was using it for a time, then went back to parabola because of this.

rms truly is a man of many talents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8voeJ9WgCw

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>>60507968
Just do it anon.

>>60509084
What song is that

>>60509172
they need to add the vertex-maia icons from manjaro

should I use rclone? Is there something better?

When I enable tlp on my laptop, desktop performance in gnome goes to shit and dragging windows around, and going to the overview is very stuttery. Is there a way to reduce tlp's impact on performance in terms of CPU and igpu?

>>60504593
Antergos is far from perfect it didn't even ship gdm with gnome when I tried it a few months ago

>tfw running custom kernel and a bunch of annoying dkms packages because of literally 1 patch that made it into mainline for 4.11
arch getting 4.11 kernel when?

>>60509384
Usually it take a couple of weeks for new major kernel versions to make it into the stable repository.

>>60508300
That still seems really inconvenient just to draw a circle.

I'm curious to try a systemd-free distro. While I have a decent amount of experience with Linux, I want it to be mostly pain-free to deal with. Is Devuan the best option available at the moment?

>>60503951
I don't get it why would "DetectIntelGPU" need to detect amd?

>>60509370
Make sure tlp is in AC mode.

>>60503775
>Manjaro

>>60509424
Use me as a reference point. I consider myself by no means a GNU power user, but I installed Gentoo using OpenRC and everything works fine for me.

>>60509222
I copied the vertex-maia icon theme from manjaro into solus, it works but it looks like nautilus and then the home/start button go to a default icon

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What's a good distro and DE for a laptop with a HiDPI laptop?

>>60509589
Literally any of them, pick your poison

>>60509596
All the ones I seem to pick suck, and I feel like I'm doing something wrong.

>>60509625
What have you used so far? What are you goals. If you're having trouble with stability, install Debian, if you want the newest bug free packages then install a rolling release distro.

>>60509636
>What have you used so far?
Fedora 25 with Gnome and KDE (Lags too much)
Ubuntu with MATE, XFCE, Gnome, and Unity (Each of these have their own problems)
Arch with Gnome and KDE (Too unstable)
OpenSUSE with Gnome and KDE (Too unstable)
Linux Mint (Laggy)
KDE Neon (Laggy and was too unstable)
>What are you goals
At this point I don't care. Everything I've tried either uses too much resources, was too unstable, or both. Some create even more problems (Unity). All I want is something that works. I don't care what distro can provide it or how much tuning it takes. I just want something that can potentially work. I highly doubt I'm the only one here with a HiDPI display...

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Anyone here used this? Is it better than Gentoo?

how the fuck do i setup emacs. every queer that uses it has billions of tweaks and plugins and shit. i don't even know where to begin to start using it comfortably, and it seems like it would be pointless to even try. same with vim.

>>60509709
install guixsd

>>60509837
just do it

How do I escape the google search botnet? I'm skeptical about using duckduckgo or startpage because they both use Google's results. Is searx the best open source alternative?

>>60510004
>guixsd
I can't. I have an intel chipset

>>60510047
it doesnt matter if a web service is free software or not, since you aren't running the code
all you need to know is if it tracks or not
search engines like ddg, seark or startpage get google results, but they get them using the engine running on the server, so you get the results, but you aren't tracked

>>60510047
I like searx because it gives you a bunch of engines you can enable or disable to your likings, there is a proxy link and a cached link for all results which is comfy and I think it's the only engine that actually delvers source code so you can run your own version.

good thread

>>60503718
How do I place a trap at the SSHFS mount command when Ctrl+C is invoked? pls halp!!!

#!/bin/bash

{ ping -c 1 192.168.1.1 &> /dev/null ; }
declare -x varPingCode=$?

{ mount | grep /tmp/SSHFS &> /dev/null ; }
declare -x varMountCode=$?

if (( $varPingCode == 0 && $varMountCode == 1 ))

then

{ mkdir -p /tmp/SSHFS && sshfs [email protected]:/ /tmp/SSHFS ; } ## place trap here

elif (( $varMountCode == 0 ))

then

{ fusermount -u /tmp/SSHFS &> /dev/null && rm -R /tmp/SSHFS ; }

elif (( $varPingCode == 1 ))

then

{ echo ϟϟ卐ϟϟ ; }

>>60510354
sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root "$TRAP"/

http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/Richard_Stallman/en/Other/RMS-San-Francisco-Pizza-Party-2008-08-05.ogg

>>60510354
^C calls the interrupt signal, so trap SIGINT

I previously used google drive and keep, for backing up various documents and keeping notes. What's an easy way to replace these with something that I can host myself on a desktop PC running gnu/linux?

>>60510481
OK.

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Assuming I have no prior experience with Linux and have decided on Linux Mint as my first distro, what is the best IDE for C++?

>>60510530
install ubunut

>>60510413
Much Funny :)

>>60510521
owncloud. It has its own server and client software.

>>60510530
GNU slash Linux*

>>60510530
> Linux Mint
> IDE

shit anon, grow some balls. go full vim and, since you are a beginner, install debian

>>60510530
vim

>>60510476
I love him so much.

>>60510625
Me too, kinda like a grandfather

>>60510481
Just wanted to say thank you Anon. Working now :-)

I found that tlp was significantly worsening performance, in the desktop on gnome. I changed it the CPU P-States setting to adaptive-performance instead of adaptive-power, in /etc/default/tlp. This gives me the same performance and fluidity as when tlp is disabled. Problem is, with this setting my power usage is about 3+ watts higher, than compared to tlp disabled. I get good enough battery with tlp off, should I just disable it?

>>60510530
>ide
>c/c++
you honestly don't need one, vim/sublime are best editors.

>>60510777
No, keep it enabled for the placebo effect that it's actually doing something

>>60510802
Does tlp suck that much? What should I use for power saving?

>>60510920
Tlp is fine, it has a ton of useful tweaks if you need to squeeze a bit more battery out of your system. The defaults are good enough in most cases that you can enable it and forget about it. The only things most people ever have to tweak is sata power saving, which can corrupt btrfs, and sometimes the less aggressive CPU settings can take a while to get to high power. Also, the WiFi tweaks can make it a lot slower so I turn them off.

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Anyone used this? I plan on installing tomorrow.

>>60511020
Shittier version of gentoo. Gentoo has more users, more packages, far more competent developers. The developers also have the advantage of being the maintainers of openrc and eudev.

>>60511034
Have you actually use it for a day or you are just trolling?

What display manager should I use for xfce?

>>60511398
lightdm or slim

>>60508386
looks like awesome

>>60511398
Also can someone clarify the difference between a display manager and a desktop environment for me.
Desktop environment is all the programs and display manager is the gui right?

>>60511428
the desktop environment is a set of programs providing you a GUI desktop experience. A window manager, desktop manager, file manager, settings, taskbar etc. A desktop env. ships all these things and more.

A display manager is rather a login manager: you provide credentials and it starts a desktop environment or window manager (or just a plain X terminal) as your user.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_display_manager_(program_type)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment

Complete noob here gonna install ubuntu .
Never had any experience with Linux. What should I expect ?

>>60511475
-a different approach for familiar things
-programs managed from one package manager, no need to go to 6000000 sites to dl all your crap
-no kekware
-if you don't like the desktop environment, you can just install a new one. No need to reinstall the whole OS.

>>60511414
slim is abandonware.

>>60511475
Basically: most packages can be installed from your package manager, not going to the website and clicking download and then clicking through the installer. Try to use free+open source software alternatives to windows stuff because it's easier to install and works better.
Also it helps to know a basic bit of terminal stuff-
The ones you should learn at first are mv, cp, ls, pwd and cd as well as cat.

>>60511533
But wod it be faster and more ram efficient than Windows 7

>>60511755
default ubuntu? no
xubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntu mate, ubuntu gnome classic? yes.

>>60511859
I suppose I can try them all from a flash drive and see which I like best

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So my parents are on an older Windows 7 desktop and they don't use it for much. The system is slowing down quite a bit, so I've been wondering if I should install Ubuntu GNOME on their computer and back up their files?

The only programs they use are Firefox, MS Office, and the default image/video programs.Would OpenOffice or LibreOffice support everything they would need? It's mainly used as a FB shitpost machine for my dad and a photo collection for my mom.

tl;dr I let them try a Live CD demo and they seemed okay with it, but I just want to be sure about the document compatibility.

>>60511986
libreoffice will handle the type of documents they might want to make just fine.

>>60511986
libreoffice can read & write ms office formats. i've only tried MS Word <-> Libreoffice Writer personally, and it works fine

I want to set up an IRC bouncer so I can use it with Hexchat. I want to set it up on my home server, and have it available to me, even when I'm outside of my home network.
Is there a way I can do this all over SSH?

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I just configured samba on Xubuntu.
i can connect to the xubuntu machine perfectly from my windows machine, but not the other way around as i cant even see the devices on the workgroup.
I already tried to connect directly and use the 56bit encryption method but nothing is working.
Please help

>>60512191
Yes. That is what many people use irssi for.

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GUYS PLS HALP I FUCKED UP.

I installed zsh on muh raspberry. Didnt like it, because I am dumb.
Removed it then without changing the default shell back to bash. Now when I try to log in it says zsh not found.

How do I get back into my raspberry?

>>60512459
You have two ways to fix this: either run the chsh command as root, or directly edit the password file. If you can log in as root, you can try either way. If you can't, you'll have to mount your root filesystem on some other computer (just take the SD card and mount it in some other GNU/Linux computer - a different OS probably won't be able to read the filesystem).

I'll give you more details if I can but Hiro-pyon is being a faggot and not letting me post filenames and code snippets.

>>60512459
You can reset it holding shift while rebooting afaik. Everything will be gone though

>>60512459
Okay. The password file is

/etc/pas

swd - but the name isn't really accurate as it hasn't stored passwords for decades now.

The line that describes your user will look more or less like this:

anon:x:1000:1000:,,,:/home/anon:/usr/bin/zsh

Just change /usr/bin/zsh to /bin/bash.

>>60508401
get a cheap laptop/desktop put ubuntu (it has a friendly software centre)
after ubuntu -> debian ... ...
$$$

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>>60503718
Can someone upload the high-res version of GNUpepe? I want to print that shit as a sticker for my x220.

>>60513003
You are embarrassing.

On linux i get this shit in 1/2 games "Connecting to Dota 2 Game Coordinator" what do i do guys?
If i reconnect, after 1 minute i get kicked again

Why valve hates linux?
When this linuxphobia gonna stop?
How do i fix this shit

Anons with Rolling release distros.
What do you do before updating your distro?
I was thinking of setting a VM to test before doing the upgrade to the real system.

>>60512459
this:
>>60512600

just remove the SD card, connect it to a computer running a gnu+linux and edit passwd as root.

>>60513443
No real precautions, I just read what apt-get dist upgrade or emerge -avDuN world would do.

That being said packages which get into debian sid are already tested to some extent by the debian team and in gentoo packages are usually marked as stable by either the gentoo team or the devs.

>>60513504
And Arch?

>>60513443
Nothing? Why would I need to waste bandwith and time twice? It's not really necessary, if there's an issue it will be promptly talked in the community, and most of the times it'll be easily fixable. Arch sometimes changes dependencies and libraries, but it doesn't really break that much.

How do i check if i have logind enabled on Debian?

>>60513515
no testing is done at all on arch. half an hour or so after a new version is released it's pushed into the repos. they say on the site that the user is responsible for the stability of the system, so if it breaks you only have yourself to blame.

>>60513942
I'm pretty sure logind is there for every systemd system, but you can check if its dbus interface is present:

gdbus introspect --system --dest org.freedesktop.login1 --object-path /org/freedesktop/login1

What do you call that when you enter a command that doesn't exist on your system and then the repos are automatically searched and if found the output is

$ command
command may be found in the following packages:
  extra/command 4.0-2    /usr/bin/command

and if it's not found

bash: command: command not found

I enabled this on Arch, idk why and I forgot how I enabled it and what it was called.
It pisses that every time I mistype a command I have to wait for like 2-3 seconds until the repos are searched.

>>60514051
I just found it, never mind.
It was burried in my .bashrc

source /usr/share/doc/pkgfile/command-not-found.bash

don't know how I missed it.

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>>60509700
>Arch with Gnome and KDE (Too unstable)
If that's your only problem with Arch this is what Manjaro was created for.

>>60514129
DE's are shit anyway, be a real man and use a window manager
I recommend openbox (floating) or i3 (tiling)

or just use lxde or xfce

>>60514186
meant to quote >>60509700

>>60511020
I tried it in a VM, it's pretty good desu

>>60514232
name one package you wrote on it

>>60514260
I don't understand what you're asking

mp3 thumbnails on thunar - wet dream?
I remember that audiothumbnailer thing but it doesn't seem to work.

>>60513999
>if it breaks you only have yourself to blame.
Then what rolling release that provide some stability?

>>60514437
can't you fuck with tumbler so it thumbnails mp3s too?

>>60514481
gentoo, debian sid

>>60514232
Name one package you wrote on it you retarded monkey nigger. What's so hard to understand?

>>60514539
the fuck are you on about
>i tried this os in a VM & i like it
>WHAT PACKAGE DID YOU WRITE
>what??
>dumbass nigger monkey whats so hard to understand about writing packages

>>60514574
did'cha evah heard of ebuild, PKGBUILD, SlackBuild?

The reason GNU/Linux can't compete with Windows, Mac or Android(Google)

1. No competent handwritting recognition
2. No Voice to text
3. No AI assistant

>>60514633
im sure typing is faster than both those input methods. what do you really need an ((AI assistant)) for anyway?

>>60514633
>none of it matters

>>60514648
>handwritting recognition
asian language
>voice
Disabled people
>AI
Proof of concept.

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>>60514705
>AI
>Proof of concept.

C-x M-c M-cortana

>>60514633
We have Mycroft, don't know how well it works. Never used it.

>>60514186
>be a real man and use a window manager
Although i3 is way easier to do so, those window mangers require me to make my own theme and manage a gtk/qt theme that works with it.
>just use lxde
see above
>or xfce
I literally have only seen one person in existence be able to pull HiDPI off on XFCE that looks any good, and it was a random anon here who never responded to my questions.

>>60514731
>Mycroft
>not tux

>>60514633
>handwriting recognition
I would actually like that.
Something like myscript that converts it into latex equations would be cool.
Haven't seen anyone do it as a free desktop application.
Don't know why, don't seem like an impossible thing to create, guess nobody had the time.

>>60514755
What project are you referring to?
Not that 10 year old project that read your emails out loud or something right?

how to set up gdm in a way that it leaves screen on, displaying time and background and not goes to black screen imidiately after locking the screen?

>>60515175
They're both on separate timers I think, you just need to set them differently.
You can google how to change the time it takes for your screen to turn off, I'm not sure if there are any GUI applications that do it, maybe your distro already has a tool for it.

But if not you can always use the CLI tool "xset" to change it.

>>60515223
i don't really use the timeout, i always alt+L when i leave my pc, what i want is when i lock my screen manually it displays the display manager instead of a black screen

>find torrent on piratebay with 7 seeds
>open with rtorrent
>can't even download metadata as if there are no seeds
>open with transmission
>immediately starts downloading

I know I'm a pleb for using piratebay and I don't want to start a torrent client war, but why does rtorrent do this? It's not the first time I've had this problem.

>>60515316
when did piratebay become pleb tier

>>60515380
Well compared to private trackers it's pretty plebby. Getting into private trackers isn't a journey I wish to embark on though.

Why is it not possible for someone to write open source drivers for Intel wifi?

>>60515423
>compared to private trackers it's pretty plebby
lol

>>60515425
-lack of public documentation
-reverse engineering is a bitch and Intel may sue
-non-free firmware is required for the hw to operate

>>60503718
Would there be a relatively straightforward way for me to simply plug in a USB and have it image a pc with linux without any user input?

A shell script would do it, I guess, but I am looking for something with zero input at all, outside of plugging in a USB and basically rebooting it after it's done.

>>60515724
im not to sure on this method but i guess it could be a starting point:
there's a module for perl called Device::USB, i suppose you could run it in the background, wait for the usb drive to be put in and when the system notification of a new usb disk displays, it runs the shell command to write the image to it? or am i going mental with this

so after installing it fails mounting my lvm entries from fstab (timeout after 90s) and goes to maintenance mode, when i then press ctrl-d it just boots normally with everything mounted
if i boot with sysvinit everything is okay too

I think my kernel might be already mounting the lvm volumes before the systemd udev mounting thing is even started?

>>60516222
*so after installing systemd, it fails mounting [..]

>>60515490
That sucks. It's the only thing preventing me from installing GuixSD on my lappy.
Maybe I'll think about buying a usb wifi adapter or something, but that's kind of annoying

>>60514129
bug reports could be an indication of people using arch and finding bugs, whereas what the fuck is manjaro

>>60516222
the kernel dosent mount anything by its self
Double check your fstab for duplicate entries and check your udev rules

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Can i get some help?
How would I fix this? The menu bar is black and it makes it hard to see it. I'm running openbox and I don't remember what I did to do this.

>>60517129
I'm guessing it's a broken GTK-3 theme.

At some point GTK-3 completely changed its syntax for themes causing a lot of themes to just break and show up all dark like that.

Basically the GTK-3 theme is determined by a directory named "gtk-3.0" in your themes directory.
If it's not there then GTK-3 will use the defaults, but if it is there and it's a broken theme then it will show up dark.

So there's 2 ways you can fix it. Either delete the "gtk-3.0" directory in your current theme, or download/select a different theme with a working GTK-3 theme (they're hard to come by, most of them are broken now I think)

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>>60513003
got these

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>>60517524

>>60517524
>>60517536
dumb frogposter

>>60517524
Wow, that is actually nice for a sticker.

Anybody got more ideas?

>>60517716
>laptop stickers
they're only sticky and collect dirt

>>60517524
>>60517536
thank you senpai

>>60517749
you should clean your computer more often

what you think about Alpine Linux?

>>60517808
i think its the perfect question to start a new thread

>>60517808

# GNU AWK
$ awk 'BEGIN { printf "%d\n", 10240000000000/1024 }'
10000000000

# BusyBox AWK
$ awk 'BEGIN { printf "%d\n", 10240000000000/1024 }'
-2147483648

>>60517808
Good for containers, they'll have to face the end of grsec like gentoo hardened though.

>>60517845
Excellent point

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