Another washing machine broken in less than 4 year, which

>>60459453
How about fixing it first.

Any make will do, you just need to disassemble it enough to get to the $1 electronic control circuitry and seal it better against moisture and it'll last you for 20+ years

>>60459461
>called the man for the job
>bearings are now part of the washing machine basket
>can't fix unless changing a 270€ part

It's bullshit, but what can I do if they make all in one shitty product with shitty build quality.
Also

>the man got paid 35€ for his "service"

>>60459453
My mom just the other day complained about this. She said the oven they bought in the 70's lasted until like 97, but he next two ovens only lasted less than 10yrs a pop. We just got a new oven. My mom's fourth. Same thing with washers and dryers.

Also who says it is only $1 to fix these things. We replaced two parts on the oven, one was $60 and the other $40. Next thing was replacing the entire top module because it is all combined. It's not like one easy capacitor to find and replace like a computer motherboard. Beyond that all the burners were going bad. We also replaced an ignitor but the burner itself starts to go bad where it ignites. And replacing those burners is almost $100 each. Not worth it.

>>60459574
>called the man for the job

cuck

>>60459461
Factories do everything possible to prevent fixing it, especially at home with their shitty "certified" boards.
>>60459453
Give up on automated crap or be a good customer.

>>60459683
you sound unemployed

>>60459453
Get Miele, Electrolux or Bosch.

Whirlpool - not even at gunpoint.

>>60459735
>Give up on automated crap or be a good customer.
You mean living without washing machine? Like, going in the river to wash my clothes?

>>60460187
Mine is Hotpoint, and worked fine till now, I might try one of those, it's not the first time I've heard they're good

>>60460202
water and basket.
it's actually simple, a lil bit tiring.
are you spoiled or what?
>how to life for dummy

>>60460202
Automated means it's have programs.

gorenje or miele

>>60459453
dont get anything from weird chinkshit brands.

>>60459453
Samsung side loader might work.

Electrolux or Miele are almost guaranteed to be quite okay, but they tend to cost more.

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>>60460585
Now that you mention it, there's this thing here.

Too bad it's expensive to ship to most places.

>>60459453
we had the same problem with Whirpool's electronics falling apart shortly after the warranty expired.
I bought Gorenje with less electronics and automation. It's okay for now. It also doesn't feature any "water saving" technologies, so it actually gets my clothes CLEANED.

>>60460676
Why wouldn't water saving machines get your clothes cleaned? I've never had any problem with them, and they're very widely used in this part of Europe.

I wonder what kind of trash does that "Whirlpool" brand sells.

>>60460676
Yeah, fuck water/energy saving features.

Had a benchtop dishwasher, worked for over twenty years before the plastic parts started getting brittle. Did its shit in half an hour or so.

Get a new machine, all programs except the quick one take three hours each.

get a miele, they last literally forever

http://olgaslaundry.com/2016/01/19/miele-w3038-washing-machine-review/

>>60460722
they work better when all energy & water saving/low temp shit is off

>>60460722
>>60460726
idk, but my mother was unhappy with the cleaning and she was blaming it on the "water saving" features.

>>60460982
Not really, I've used >10 machines (front loaders from pretty diverse brands) and 20 to 40 degrees celsius & water saving automatics will virtually always do the trick with regards to cleaning the laundry, with typical cheapo granular detergent in sufficient quality.

>>60461015
Couldn't tell you if it's your water hardness (machine automatics can often partly compensate for this if the setting on the machine are right), insufficient detergent (liquid detergent can be quite a bit less concentrated per weight, from my experience - but it depends on the brand. I basically always use dry granular detergent anyhow). Or just her imagination.

I don't know if she could be convinced otherwise or if there's even a point in trying to do so, but I hope you test your own laundry + machine rather than just relying on her word.

Get some ancient used was´hing machine that can be fixed with a hammer.

>>60459453
My AEG has been working for 15 years or something without ever needing repairs. German quality™.

>>60459453
>/g/ complains about forced obsolescence
>the board is still full of right-wing libertarian retards who defend capitalism at every turn

talk about cucked. sad!

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>>60459453

Spin to win.

>buy the cheapest clothes you can find, like $1 t-shirts and $2 shorts
>wear them for a week
>throw them away

do the math and find that you will actually be spending less money (if you're paying for the laundry detergent and utility bills in your house).

>>60461550
>live in socialist utopia
>not allowed to own a washing machine for environmental reasons
>must wait your turn to use the communal washing machine in your apartment complex
>your weekly ration of laundry soap isn't enough to properly clean the clothes
>the clothes actually smell worse after coming out of the washing machine because you're forced to live in the same apartment building as niggers and beaners
>can never move out because there are no economic opportunities

>>60461681
What is this bullshit?

>>60459453
> Anime
Hi.
Welcome! I really liked your image, desu.

>>60461681
Wat. Where is that supposed to be?

>>60461886
LA?

>>60460187
get a load of mister moneybags over here

>>60460585

But everything is made by Chinks in current year.

>>60461570
Spin it!

>>60461603
>wearing newly bought clothes without washing them
I like the idea, but the fact that pretty much all clothes you buy have been tried on by someone else and then put back cause they didn't like it.

>>60461681

T-thanks Obama.

>>60461898
> LA / California
> Socialist utopia
Pretty sure that region and the state of California are mostly governed by US democrats?

That's not really much socialism, they're very centrist overall. Basically like ALDE or EPP in the EU parliament.

Social democrats (S&D) or even democratic socialists etc. (GUE/NGL) are rather damn far from US dems. Never mind the more full radical left socialists.


Sounds more like a simply retarded attempt at water & soap conservation or something.

> can never move out because there are no economic opportunities
Eh, you have the whole USA and a decent chance to get to Europe or elsewhere, don't you?

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one of these if you want something that lasts

I have a Zanussi from the 90s, its still keeps chugging on even though there`s quite a bit of rust on the exterior. Bearing was changed at one point, was a simple enough repair.

>>60459453
It's probably like a $15 DIY fix

>>60462066
No, you don't get it, any leftist policies at all are literally holodomor tier communism to the hysterical far right.

That said, California is a place that elects ((Feinstein)) every two years, so it's safe to conclude the city-dwellers at least are retarded traitors

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>>60462106

Chinese cartoon bulletin board.

>>60459453
Speed Queen

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>>60460187
This, i have an italian shitter Indesit, it broke twice already and still sounds like a russian gunship lifting off when it spins anything heavier than my shower curtains.

>>60462110
>literally holodomor tier communism to the hysterical far right.

First they came for the Nationalists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Nationalist.

Then they came for the Traditionalists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Traditionalist.

Then they came for the Whites, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not White.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

>>60460005
You sound incapable of watching half an hour of youtube videos and looking at it with your eyes for one minute

>>60460187
Old whirlpool direct drives are fucking amazingly repairable.

>>60460254
Hand-washing everything is only thrifty if you time is worth fucking nothing.

>>60460607
>buying a Chinese Government spy washer

>>60461550
Libertarians are not right wing. They're shills for the globalist elite. They are leftists

>>60462110
> No, you don't get it, any leftist policies at all are literally holodomor tier communism to the hysterical far right.
Hmkay?

Well, energy / water efficiency measures are more often left-initiated in Europe too, but certainly they have a high level of support with the center and even a decent level of support even into the pretty far right.

Ultimately, you loose nothing even in just the medium term if you don't allow devices that warm up 5x more water to 3x the temperature required to clean the typical dirt off clothes. It works with, you know, just the right amount of water, at a sensible temperature.

And you can use optical sensors to guess whether you need to rinse once more, and you can use weight sensors to guess if you have tumbled the batch enough or if you are still getting water out, and so on. Generally does not have any drawbacks with regards to the result your laundry machine produces, it's just more efficient.

> That said, California is a place that elects ((Feinstein)) every two years, so it's safe to conclude the city-dwellers at least are retarded traitors
Don't know your politicians in enough detail to really get what you're talking about.

>>60462515
Hi.
Thank you for the time wasted on replying.

>>60459453
Advice from landlord here:

1 - subscribe to consumer reports and follow their advice. Invest the $25 subscription fee to save thousands.

2 - don't buy your shit from lowes, walmart or best buy or any of those kind of stores. there is a reason they are cheaper - ie: lower grade plasics and metals, flimsier seals, etc

3 - I have had good luck with sears in general and kenmore brands in particular, but since they have been having troubles, wtf knows who is making their stuff now, so - see #1

4 - even though every financial advice mag, rag and blog will tell you never ever ever buy the extended warranty, I always do. Its usually a 20% add on to get to 5 years. I had a drier they replaced 4 times, once about 3 weeks before warranty expired. The model had been discontinued by then so they brought me a new model that has worked for 7 years now.

5 - take it easy on your machines. In general, we tend to wash our clothes way more than they need to, esp pants and towels.

>>60462215
This might be the stupidest post I've read all day. Thanks for giving me cancer.

>>60462698
The only reason you have to have water efficiency measures is you give all of your state's water to Nestle for almost free.

>>60462927
Consumer reports is a shitfest. They don't update often enough, they don't put their magazine content on their website in a useful format(only scans of the pages) and they basically only show the top couple brands(where top is defined as biggest advertising budget.) Never making that mistake again.

Extended warranties are gambling. The house always wins... if they were worth it on average nobody would sell extended warranties.

>>60462927
>4 - even though every financial advice mag, rag and blog will tell you never ever ever buy the extended warranty, I always do. Its usually a 20% add on to get to 5 years. I had a drier they replaced 4 times, once about 3 weeks before warranty expired. The model had been discontinued by then so they brought me a new model that has worked for 7 years now.
That might work for you as a landlord since you don't have to wait for the service guy, but for regular people it's good advice not to buy it. Remember that once you buy it, you have to use them if you want your shit fixed. That means you wait. Service companies will service cash-paying customers first before warranty customers. So when you call and they say they'll be out in three weeks, you either wait or go find someone who you need to pay to come out.

Never buy extended warranties.

>>60463100
I have not had the same experience with Consumer reports as you. Looking at their site right now they have 113 washers for comparison and several ways to sort them.

Also, they do not accept advertising, so not sure what you mean by the advertising budget part, especially since they have ...113 models for comparison.

I agree on extended warranties. Just saying that my one experience paid for every extended warranty I ever bought. Also...piece of mind. As a landlord and home owner, I have up to 25 major appliances at any time. odds are, I will have an issue with at least one of them every quarter. If its in the first 5 years of purchase, I just call them up and they do what they have to fix or replace. The best part is, they almost always replace. And they cover the shitty $75 "service call fee."

Lastly, all this is negotiable. If you tell them you will buy the extended warranty, they will often deduct half the cost of the warranty from the purchase price of the appliance. why? because they get a bigger spiff on the warranty than the machine

Not saying a single homeowner should buy the warranty, just saying I do for the reasons above.

>>60463253
This could well be true.

I usually can have the service call within 72 hours. Sometimes it is specified in the contract.

>>60462155
I just can afford to value my time and attention more than you. It's okay though, I'm not looking down on you because of that.

>>60459453
bump

>>60459453
My LG is 10 years old and still going.