/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

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cueb.de delibering to australia?

>>60444421
australia is a keyboard dead area.
no one is delivering here

source: kangaroo

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is lubing switches a meme? where can i find a guide to do this?

>>60444429
China does

Always bet on China

>>60444441
It's entirely unnecessary unless you're a MAXIMUM SMOOTHNESS autist from Geekwhack

REMINDER

compact keyboards are meme shit

>>60444499
hard to argue with those digits, but i'd like to state that compact keyboards are utilitarian

>>60444441
I've lubed switches and it's worth it if you have the time.

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>>60444499
Best layout.

>>60444499
>>60444543
to have the keys bunched so closely together is retarded useless if the board is 60-65% or less.

compact 75%? autist
96key? autist
compact fullsize? autist

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>>60444499
I agree

>>60444651

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>60444650

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>>60444698
What? Don't pretend that you never got a compact memeboard and then ended up making a numpad for it so you could do actual work.

>>60444650
Oh I thought you were referring to 60% as compact.
But yeah, nah, I agree, 104-key compact is retarded

>>60444650
But muh sexy 1800 layout

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buy it

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>>60445037
It's ugly

>>60445037
Why?

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>>60445120
no it's not
>>60445121
because i said so

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>>60445151
Yes it is, it looks live every other floating keycap chinkshit board

>>60445151
My mummy told me not to listen to strange men on the internet

>>60445037
no

>>60445234
But this one has an acrylic ring in the middle of the case halves for rgb sideglow

>>60445234
show me one chinkshit that looks like it and has similar features
>>60445242
im your mummy
>>60445250
k

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>>60445258
And an ugly-ass bezel to go with it. They should've given it a proper case at that price point.

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>>60445258
>rgb sideglow
When did /mkg/ come to be about bling and stupid shit instead of typing bliss?

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>>60445258
>rgb sideglow

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>>60445279
Anything that magicforce makes looks very similar, minus the plastic bottom case. The whole RGB and floating keycaps stuff makes it look like cheap chinkshit.

I don't see what's so alluring about that board, it's just a TKL with RGB lighting. I'd rather get a ducky if I wanted fancy lights. Sure this k-type thing has some nice features, but that doesn't stop it from being overpriced and ugly as shit.

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>Be me
>Shitposting on 4chan and using my cellphone
>Open pokemon go!
>Then, trying to catch a charmander spotted on my desk
>ButterFingers.webm
>Cellphone fall like a stone on my keyboard
>Shiiiiiiiiiet
>Check damage control
>Press Z and not be able to hear that delicious "click"
>But the key still working

Did I broke that switch? Exist any way to open that little shit to check it, but without rip the welding? Help.

Also:
At the last thread someone post a video related with nigger(brown) swtiches, the problem is that my keyboard has transparent switches like pic related. On that shit has wrote: "RGD"

>>60445568
take apart your keyboard

desolder the switch

take apart the switch

assess the damage

>>60444441
>>>ripster
He has guides on everything, I like lubing my stabs but I haven't tried switches.

>>60445234
>>60445341
whats wrong with floating keycaps? isnt it easier to clean keyboards with floating keycaps?

>>60444441
afaik it's mainly done for linear switches, mx black in particular. if you lube a clicky switch you might ruin the click.

What should I get with Yuri? I kinda want icon mods cause they're cool, kinda want a dox kit to do a dox.

By the time it shows up I'll have 3 or 4 60%, a TKL, a 96 key, a 65% and a 40%. I don't really know what other "normal" layout I even need, but I honestly don't really think the dox is that great. And if I don't like it, then I have the awesome Keyset without icon mods or anything cool like that.

What do /mkg/

>>60441872
In any hobby/interest with actual substance, you would be ridiculed for something like that. In the context of music for example - owning a very expensive instrument and being unable to play it well is seen as retarded. Particularly retarded if you talk about it and draw attention to that instrument. It's cool if a kid inherits a nice instrument from their family member or something, but a dipshit going out of his way to buy something expensive because he feels he needs it before he can string a few chords together is ridiculous.

If said dipshit said something like "I can afford it, why the hell not?", he'd still be ridiculed, because musicians know how useless the advantages of a good quality instrument are in the hands of someone who plays poorly. If he actually resorted to something mind-numbingly stupid like implying that these dissenting voices are "jealous poorfags" -- well, I know of some circles where said dipshit would be deemed so intolerably stupid so as to be promptly beaten up.

But in the world of mech keebs, you got a 60 WPM snail diving straight for a topre board and this is seen as completely normal. Congrats man! Nice cop, wish I had one! Typing speed and consistency is rarely even talked about, it's like a sideshow to what really matters - buying shit over and over again with barely any idea as to why.

Meanwhile, most typists barely even care which keyboard they're using, they'll type on whatever. Probably unaware of the zillion-and-one dumb layouts, unaware of custom keycaps and their various profiles and certainly unaware of "artisan" caps, which is something even 4chan dweebs renounce as incredibly stupid. How many typists know or care what a fucking "zealio" is? There are grannies out there out-typing you on scissors switches and the most they could muster at this bizarre hobby is a confused smile.

Got respect for peeps who make their own boards, the rest of this scene is quite evidently a passing fad with no real value.

Since GMK carbon is dropping after yuri, my worry is that they will jack up the prices since it was the most popular gmk set.

>>60445777
Were did you spill over from? I'm gonna say geekwhack. How about you take your generalizations and go back there.

>>60445777
>owning a very expensive instrument and being unable to play it well is seen as retarded
i'll buy an expensive instrument if i want to. who cares what neckbeards like you think about it? and mechanical keyboards aren't even expensive. you can get a quite decent one for $30-100. sour grapes much?

i do agree that someone in this "hobby" should know how to touch type, but why are you assuming that it's all about typing speed. it's more about ergonomics and customization and such.

>>60445980
GMK carbon isn't dropping after Yuri, SA Carbon is. GMK is next year

the only bigger wastes of money than gmk and other abs shite sets are artisans

>>60445777
Not all people with sport cars are racer.

>>60445037
>TKL
>2017

>>60445673
They're just fine in terms of functionality, but making them not look like shit on a board isn't easy. The k-type has ultimately failed at that.

>>60446117
>SA Carbon
Estimated release date: Summer 2019

>>60446164
Have you actually tried GMK? It's high quality.

>>60446703
>ABS
I don't care how "high quality" you say it is. ABS will always be shit.

>>60446811
So you're irrational. Got it.

Is WASD a bad buy?
I'd like a keyboard with complete blank keycaps for maximum edginess, what are my options?

>>60446887
pick almost any keyboard except for WASD and buy thick pbt blank keycaps

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Freeing-shipping-keycaps-blank-pbt-keycaps-cherry-profile-black-thick-keycap-for-mx-wried-mechanical-gaming/32797695882.html

>Budget
$300
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
The best for a combination between gaming and
comfy typing
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
Tenkeyless
>Backlight
Yes
>Previous/current keyboards
Corsair k90 with red switches, I hate typing in this shit no key feedback at all

>>60446887
WASD has poor build quality and shitty caps.

just buy any keyboard then get $20 PBT blanks from china.

or get a real force black on black

>>60446837
So you're delusional. That's okay though you're in good company here

>>60446943
Topre Realforce 45g
Pok3r
KUL
Filco

>>60444393
blue cheese keyboard?

>>60446663
looks fine to me

i prefer the ktype design over the ducky shine 6 floating key design

>>60446703
I'm sure they are until they inevitably start going to shit, like all ABS caps.

>>60446887
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1652

>>60446980
it's supposed to look like porcelain

>>60444651
Anyone know where I can cop this keyboard? It's memeshit but I love it

>>60447138
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/tada68-mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils?variant=34710238797

>>60447138
Its the tada68. You can find it pretty much anywhere that sells keyboards. Aliexpress, candykeys, originative, taobao, and KBD has them

>>60447170
>>60447181
Thanks senpai

>>60445037
>200 dollars for RGB bullshit

No, my Magicforce 68 is just fine thanks.

Finaly got Team Wolf TKL with swapable switches + bag of 90 green gaterons for 83.24$ from assdrop.
Did I do good /mkg/ considering getting mech board with any kind greens in EU is not that easy?

>>60444393
I have this keyboard and your keycaps gave me eye cancer.

>>60444393
I could use your advice /mkg/ Ive been spending a ton of time on massdrop and amazon looking at stuff. trying to find the right thing for me:

* up to $300
* low profile base (flush w/ keys) preferred metal
* full-sized (numpad nice but optional)
* mx cherry brown
* dye cast keys
* no backlight or colorful leds
* preferably a solid color
* primary use is for programming/coding

Ive been looking at some of the majestouch boards as well as leopolds and like the look of them. it would be nicer to find something full sized with a base similar to the vortex core that has that spartan look.

there is also a part of me that wants to find a model M with the numpad and some RGB keys for it but thats another story

>>60428011
>tfw I thought the same thing and got super excited for a second
Fuck that was disappointing. I'm in medical too, those keycaps would be perfect. Guess we are never going to see a second drop for pulse keycaps. Just fuck my shit up.

>>60447735
If you want a model M with RGB keys them just go buy one. It would run you like 80 bucks for a new keyboard and the keys would be another 7.

>>60447900
I know, Im probably going to just so that I have it but I still want to see if there is something modern that is more minimalist I can use at the office. i think mx browns are generally a bit quieter over all compared to the model M springs right?

>>60447967
They are, but just know that the sound of bottoming out is louder then the actuating mechanism of the switch. With your requirements:
>low profile base (flush w/ keys) preferred metal
Your browns will be even louder then a Filco with blues

>>60448034
noise level aside, are you guys aware of anything that fits the profile? Im sort of leaning towards leopolds atm

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>>60448176
there are plenty of keyboards that do. If you want something minimalistic why not get a Ducky One with dye-sub PBT keycaps?

Someone give me a list of drops that are happening.

What's happening after Yuri?

Is Laser going to drop.

>>60448264
geekhack.com

Anyone recommend a good tenkeyless mechanical keyboard? Preferrably with red/brown switches, backlit (but no rgb bullshit).

>>60448664
Magicforce 68

>>60448664
kul es87

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>>60445151
>>60445258
>>60445279
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/4dwyzn/b87_clone_from_taobao/
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/96-DIY-Kit-Mechanical-Keyboard-Customized-Set-PCB-Case-Plate-Stabilizers-Underglow-RGB-Free-shipping/32733608635.html
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/kbd75-keyboard-set

>>60444393
>>60444576
>>60444651
>>60444712
>>60445037
>>60445151
>>60448237
>>60449017
Go fuck off with your ANSI keyboard layout
ISO is better

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>>60449105
>ISO is better

>>60449105
delusional europoor detected.

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>>60449105
objectively wrong

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>>60444393
RK Pro 104

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Awaiting a Cherry G80-1800 with MX Black

Hopefully it's not shit

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>>60449105
No it's not

Is ergodox worth it?

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>>60449105
>he uses ISO

>>60449474
no there is not really anything wrong with a normal staggered keyboard layout if you know how to touch type

>>60449552
Isnt it more fatiguing on the fingers?

>>60449346
I love keyboards made by Cherry. (G80 1800, 3000, 11800, 11900, etc)
They are almost always <$100 new, come with Cherry-profile keycaps, and have no gaymer aesthetics.
PCB mounted switches so you can swap stems and springs easily if you ever get tired of the MX Blacks.

>Budget
150
>Location (continent at least)
Indiana
>Preferred switch type
MX Blues
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
Full Size
>Backlight
No
>Previous/current keyboards
Some HP I got from work.

>Budget
Around $100, maybe a bit more

>Location
USA

>Preferred switch type
Would like tactile, non-clicky, and low or medium resistance. So something like brown or clear cherry.

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
Tenkeyless

>Backlight
At least enough to see what I'm typing in the dark

>Current keyboard
Macbook Pro

Has anyone tried metal keycaps before? I think they are made of zinc? Curious on their feel and sound.

>>60449612
>>60449639
I recommend keeping your current keyboard and save the money

>>60449658
I hate this keyboards it's like a laptop keyboard

>>60449574
all the important keys sit very close to the home row. as long as you have mechanical switches (which you don't need to press/punch hard to activate) and use the right technique you shouldn't get fatigued just from typing on your keyboard.

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>>60449639
https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-GATERON-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01E57PT4A
https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-GATERON-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01E57PUNA
https://www.amazon.com/DREVO-84-Key-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B01H6DHITE
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N4A2IGN

>>60445777
So what I'm getting from this is that you get jelly of 'inferior' people having nicer boards than you. Judge the keyboard not the person.
>the rest of this scene is quite evidently a passing fad with no real value.
Truth, but its still fun for us who stick around.

>>60449948
>flipped spacebar
what an absolute madman xD

>>60450081
that's how it's done

the spacebar should be in a flat profile or angled toward you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKKEeVcvap4

>>60450119
>he doesn't know
you have to go back

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>>60450133
>everything reddit does i have to do the opposite because i'm le edgy contrarian 4channer

>>60450182
I've tried the flipped spacebar meme. Unless you're a fingerlet or type with a wristrest/shit posture, they do jack shit

Thoughts on this?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CDYB8F6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

>>60450249
the keyboard should be flat on the table, not with the feet folded out.

>>60450280
nah

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/40-AMJ40-DIY-Kit-PCB-Case-Plate-For-40-Mini-Cute-Mechanical-Keyboard-Free-shipping/32788573644.html

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>>60449017
and another one

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>>60450303
Yeah, but if your posture is shit, or you rest your wrists on the table or a wrist rest you are doing it wrong. The fact that flipping the spacebar feels better should be a warning sign.

Why the fuck is it so hard to find a white, ISO layout brown-switch tenkeyless keyboard? I've been looking everywhere but every white keyboard I can find has the ANSI layout.

>>60450913
Ducky One TKL comes in white and has option for MX Browns, but it does have increased price due to the RGBmeme.

>>60450851
fuck off, you're the one with the shitty posture. the bottom row is sculpted for your fingers, not for your thumbs. the keys should be angled away from your fingers, but if you have the posture you suggest (to align the thumbs with a non-flipped spacebar) the keys become angled toward you which is absolutely disgusting.

Does anyone here have experience with the Noppoo EC108 or any of it's derivatives? I've tried one of the Korean rebrands in 55g weight and it feels pretty damn similar to Topre, and I'd like to get one with the rgb lightings as much cheaper alternative to realforce rgb.

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Check it, /mkg/, I basically finished my split TKL case (just need to cut the bottom plate still, which will be trivial)

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>>60451157
Second pic. The plate and the 2nd layer are just sitting on top of each other ATM, so they aren't entirely aligned. I'll probably screw/epoxy them together tomorrow

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>>60451157
Niiiiiice

I've always wanted to make a board with translucent plastic. I take it you had that laser-cut?

Are you going to use a PCB? What switches will you be using?

>>60450550
I wish my keyboard had a split spacebar

>>60450119
>the spacebar should be in a flat profile or angled toward you
>limp wrists hanging so far off the kb you strike the space bar sideways

Correct your god damned posture.

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>>60451229
the sheep are starting to wake up

>>60451298
yuck, that 1u empty space is pretty ass looking

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>>60451275
do you even know what a thumb looks like

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>>60451316
it's not my favorite layout, just pointing out that split spacebars are becoming more common, but i don't think it's that bad, it's a symmetrical 0.75u gap, you won't have to strain your pinkies to reach the bottom corners and your palms can be closer to the keyboard, the corner gaps are similar to the hhkb layout

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>>60451199
Thanks, yeah, the clear acrylic looks pretty sweet. I was able to laser cut it myself, since my school gives us laser cutter access and all the acrylic you ask for (being a grad student may not bring in much cash, so I've gotta milk that for all it's worth).

Acrylic has a couple issues for keyboards, honestly. The biggest problem is that you need to use 5mm stuff for sufficient stability and strength of the switch plate, but all cherry-compatible switches and accessories expect 1.5mm plates. So, I'll need to use modified costar stabilizers, and hand wiring, since a PCB wouldn't be able to rest against the bottom of the switch really well (see the pic, where I've put in a few switches).

The other big issue is that the clips on the sides of the switches won't actually attach to the plate. Some people solve this on acrylic by using a 1.5mm plate epoxied to a thicker support plate, but I'll probably just glue down my switches (you wouldn't really *need* to secure them down, except for when you try to pull off the keycaps you risk breaking circuitry if you don't).

I'm using MX clear switches, since I type like deaf Beethoven trying to hear his piano and love a firm keypress.

On another note, before someone calls me out on it, the only reason that cheap dell rubberdome is in the pictures is because my model M is being repaired ATM...

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>>60451556
see how the thumb is angled differently than the fingers

>>60451521
How are you going to connect the halves?

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>>60451381

>split spacebar
>not using hhkb jis with an alternative controller allowing thumb shift mod

it's like you don't even want ergonomics, anon

>>60451599
I plan to use a 9 pin serial cable, and use a teensy on the bigger half with an I/O expander on the smaller half (similar to ergodox). A 9 pin cable may be Overkill, but it should give me some extra space for things like LEDs.

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>>60451736
>LEDs
>Handwire

Well, now I'm even more looking forward to see that come along. Good luck anon

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Is JTK quality good?

>>60452012
>ABS
no

>>60452080
>he fell for the "all ABS is automatically shit" meme.
i'd use my gmk abs doubleshots over aliexpress pbts any day

>>60452121
>what is thick pbt

>>60451757
I may not have LEDs in the first working version, but I like having the option later. Handwiring honestly doesn't sound any harder than having to etch PCBs that are the right shape for my design. But anyway, thanks!

>>60451907
You're not supposed to angle your wrist. Try actually typing with your hands posed like that.

>>60452184
the thumb is angled differently regardless, and your forearm will have a slight upward tilt unless your keyboard is literally in your lap which is why the keyboard is tilted toward you (but the key profiles are tilted away from you because of how your fingertips are angled)

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>>60452321
You are dense.

Looking like it might be time to upgrade. My D key doesn't work half the time. Any suggestions on a new keyboard or how to fix my current?
CM Storm QuickFire Rapid - Compact Mechanical Gaming Keyboard with CHERRY MX Blue Switches
Prefer tenkeyless and blues. No leds under $200 USD

>>60452477
kill yourself

if you don't have t-rex baby arms your forearm will be tilted upward. the wrists have nothing to do with it, the flipped spacebar works great with the wrists straight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKKEeVcvap4

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>>60452686
>>60452617
go fuck you are self

>>60452714
kill yourself fucking retard. the girl in your pic is obviously shrugging her shoulders to force the "straight" forearms for the cancerous meme pic. with a proper posture your elbows will sit lower.

>>60452757
her wrists not being rested on the desk is the point

way to miss it

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>>60452805
here the wrists are straight but the forearm and hands are tilted upward. you don't need to bend the wrists fucktard. why do you think the keyboard is angled in the first place?

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>>60452839
>why do you think the keyboard is angled in the first place?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_dependence

>>60452839
>here the wrists are straight but the forearm and hands are tilted upward.
Which is bad.

>you don't need to bend the wrists fucktard.
But your arms are no longer in a correct position.

>why do you think the keyboard is angled in the first place?
Most people don't have keyboard trays.

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>>60452889
>>60452909
HURR

>>60452932
why don't you flip the entire bottom row if want to use keycap profile as an excuse for flipped spacebars?

>>60453020
because the bottom row keys except for arrows are almost never used or they're used by your fingers not by your thumbs, and if you use your alt keys with your thumbs you curl your thumbs inward to press them in a different way than the spacebar

>>60451333
Yes and with proper posture it has no trouble coming straight down on the top of the bar, pressing it with the side of the thumb tip towards the knuckle. Space bars are even convex among this contact surface to accommodate this very motion.

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>>60453336
even if you have shit shoulder posture and your forearms are parallel to the desk, the spacebar is angled away from you and you hit the edge of the spacebar. flipped spacebar is more comfortable

thoughts on the chinkshit GK64?

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Yay! We can post pictures again. For this occasion I'll post an overpriced meme that got lost in transit for me. Probably for the best.

Those things are expensive, man.

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>>60454071
Which ones? the keycaps or the keyboards

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>>60454062
i dunno, i think it looks pretty cute tbf

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>>60454180
>gets assmad over flipped spacebars
>uses DSA profile

>>60454239
what's your point? if you don't raise your wrists your thumb still hits the side of the spacebar, on my keyboard anyway.

you just can't pretend to justify your shit posture with this profile by flipping it

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>>60454333
with cherry/OEM profile the spacebar is angled away from you quite severely. it's not as much of a problem with DSA profile. as i wrote in >>60450119, i think the spacebar should be flat or angled toward you, but not angled away from you, so in this sense i "agree" with DSA profile and you're being ignorant of the cherry/OEM spacebar situation.

>>60453477
>Concave 1u row diagram
>anything to do with the space bar

Space bars are convex and at a neutral angle relative to the case. They are literally designed specifically to comfortably fit the curve of the knuckle when you are exercising proper typing posture.

Look, it's one thing if you can't type correctly and feel the need to fuck with your cap placement but don't encourage other people to emulate your unhealthy habits.

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>>60454409
Lol you're gonna get RSI, but whatever its your body. If you wanna meme it up then be my guest.

>>60454463
>>60454476
in reality, this is what it looks like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKKEeVcvap4

and there is nothing wrong with it

>>60454489
No

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>>60454506

>>60454476
this
>>60454489
you're right. you just completely outsmarted everyone who has ever designed a spacebar

we did it reddit

>>60454533
kill yourself

>>60454476
Thanks doc.

>>60454518
nice meme posts, science is on my side too:
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=repetitive+strain+injury&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C22&as_vis=1
It took me almost no effort and already there are papers saying that putting any sort of pressure on your wrists is bad for you. That is why when you google proper typing posture almost everyone is using an arm rest, or typing with their hands over the keyboard.

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>>60454547
o-okay

https://www.poll-maker.com/results1017141x68268824-42#tab-2

the majority of respondents flip their spacebar

you're just salty that reddit invented it

>>60454597
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PUTTING PRESSURE ON YOUR WRISTS YOU INSUFFERABLE RETARD

KILL YOURSELF

>>60454605
KILL YOURSELF YOU SHITTY CUNT

SEE >>60452932 HER FOREARMS ARE ANGLED WITHOUT PUTTING PRESSURE ON HER WRISTS

>>60454489
>he has an HHKB with aftermarket caps so he must know what he's doing
Shout out to the dude in my web programming lecture that brings his HHKB to take notes with, he is a far less wise man than I.

>>60454643
k

>it's another "stop liking what i don't like" episode

if people want to flip their spacebars there's nothing you can do about it

stay triggered sperglords

oh and look at this reddit spacing

>>60454609
Lol your bad typing habits will kill you way before mine

>>60454680
do you realize that you're nitpicking about the angle of a fucking spacebar

stay delusional

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>>60454626
....and thus she should have no reason to flip her spacebar?
this cartoon doesn't even seem to have realistic proportions, anyway

>>60454730
reminder that this idiot uses DSA profile and thinks he's an expert on the flipping of spacebars

>>60454704
I'm not. My spacebar is flipped, but I don't pretend its the best way to type. After a quickly reading this thread it seems that you and the tripfag are the ones going at it.

>>60454626
Calm down please.

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>>60454741
here you go anon, it's too bad i had to draw it baby style for you, but now you should understand

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>>60455081
you're fucked in the head. you're either baiting or deluded.

>>60455173
Wrist angle is still fucked.

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>>60455173
apparently a drawing a toddler could understand is too complicated for you

maybe someone else can explain it for you

>>60455207
nope. look at the thumb.

>>60455211
(You)

>>60455173
There's absolutely zero chance his wrists are at that angle. Fucking palm doesn't even line up.

You know what causes that palm position? Hanging your elbows off the desk.

>>60455295
dumbass, that's what the palm looks like when the wrist is in a neutral position and the fingers are lightly curled and his hand is momentarily raised a bit because he's in the process of typing. if his elbows are below desk levels there is nothing wrong with it, any problem is made up by retards who want to sell you fancy chairs and desks

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Im thinking on getting one of the Razer Blackwidow keyboards, problem i have is, deciding between two i want
(ive lurked hardcore and tested switches and own a switch tester etc etc , currently using a heavily modified Non-RGB corsair k95 i got for free off a friend )

ive typed on the blackwidow ultimateb and love the clickyness, i hate the reds my k95 has and was thinking of just ordering gateron blues, although i want the full RGB experience so im gonna be a poorfag and pay around 50-80 dollars on ebay like the faggot i am

but the main question i have here is Black widow Ultimate or Black widow Tournament Edition

The Tournament edition i solely want it just because it has a standard layout and i can change the keycaps, yet ill be loosing the macros and numpoad

Ultimate Edition ill have the numpad and can still change keycaps except the terrible bottom row, what do you guys think i should do?

> plz nu bully

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stop flipping your spacebar

>>60455680
Just get a Ducky and program it however you want. All but seven keys can be set as a programmable macro, and with 5 layers that's plenty of macros to go around.

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>>60444393
Just got my Das 4, did I do good?

(It fucking feels great and I feel like I'm having a mini orgasm every time I press a key)

>>60455896
Unless you paid 70 bucks for it, you got memed.

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>>60455795
eh anyplace to find it for cheap?
being a poorfag sucks friendo
and if you had to choose between the two what would you get?

>>60444441
>>60444444

>>60455973
W-w-w-w-what about $100?

>>60456021
You can get the TKL versions for 80 bucks, but they are all sold out. The problem with Ducky is that since they are so popular they raised the prices on some of their keyboards. I was lucky and got in before, tho looks like you're gonna end up paying 100 bucks for one. If you are a poorfag then consider suicide or a chinese keyboard
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Get-A-Job-You-NEET/32807704288.html

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Faggot LED ricers make fun of the mechanical keyboard memers. Keep that in mind desu

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>>60456166
You got memed hard. There are several keyboards you could have gotten for the same price that have better build quality and more features. But hey at least your keyboard has a laser etched sticker.

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>>60456274
You forgot the gay ruler I also get

have you ever pressed down a key on a mechanical keyboard and then heard an echoing "twang" from the spring popping the key back up?

>>60456327
no cause I buy American switches and not that gay commie shit

>>60455973
>$70 USD for a DAS

I mean, just because it hasn't dropped lower doesn't mean that it's anywhere near worth that.

Granted, I haven't paid attention to them because it's a massive fucking meme and their quality dropped really hard, but if they're still using greetech you're literally just as well off buying a $30-40 chink otemu switch board, and much better off buying a $50 chink gateron board.

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>>60456350
They only have one keyboard that uses cherry switches, and that is the original 4 pro. The new mac pro and tkl one use greetech. The worst bit though is that that all have shitty thin pad printed ABS keycaps.

there has to be a way to make these keyboards cheaper
most of these prices are obscene
if I ever get a bunch of money I'm going to develop a really good really cheap switch and put a bunch of them in a basic board with cherry mounts and shitty keycaps and sell as many as I can

>>60456703
There are plenty of mechanical keyboards in the $20-30 range.

>>60456789
where?

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>>60456858
Chyna. You can get something like the tomoko on amazon for 28 bucks. I know aula has one for like 25. Monoprice has a full size one for 30 bucks, 35 if you want it with LEDs. There is this poo keyboard for 20 bucks as well.

>>60456938
that's still pretty expensive
still, what should I use as a search term to find these on amazon?

>>60456959
If a $5 premium is expensive then I don't know what to tell you. Most rubber domes with similar features cost like 15-25 bucks.

>>60456988
hmm, alright

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>>60445584
>>60445584
Something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HYXsZqpHrg

The fuck is that blue thing on second 22??

I have no idea about how to solder. I just need a tin thread and a soldering iron?
just that?
how I can desolder the switch?

But tell me, if I can't listening the click, do you think that something is broke? or just a little piece out on his place? Be honest and straight please.

>>60457347
>The fuck is that blue thing on second 22??

What, the solder sucker? It sucks solder.

>>60457347
>if I can't listening the click, do you think that something is broke? or just a little piece out on his place?

The clicker is just a plastic sleeve around the plunger. It may have just gotten stuck. Depending on how the switches are mounted you may be able to open them without even desoldering.

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Speaking of soldering, would it be possible to swap out Cherry RGB for some other Cherry Switch + the old single style LED? The light spill of this shitty RGB meme annoys the shit out of me.

>>60456938
what kind of switches are in that? (I know it says "blue", blue what?)

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>>60457665
or would it be easier to just paint these shitty clear cases black?

>>60457673
Their website sland amazon says gaote. Of course if you bothered to use google or even go onto the amazon page you would have found out the answer.

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>>60457665
If the PCB has the extra pins then yes.

>>60457665
No. The SMD RGB LEDs physically take up the space on the PCB where LEDs would go

>>60457841
>>60457907
Fuck I realized Cherry RGB only has 2 pins total and since the Ducky Pocket was completely built around Cherry RGB, getting anything to work would be near impossible. I'll try to to electrical tape on a few switches tomorrow to see how well that seals off the clear casing leaking light and maybe paint over it if that works.

I'm getting my first mechanical keyboard soon but I don't know what kind of switch type to get. I play a lot of games but I also do a decent amount of typing for school, but I'm not sure if I want Red switches or Black switches.

>>60458054
Get a switch tester. Keep it at your desk for a week or so and see what you like.

>>60457907
And it's less of an issue of the SMD LEDs taking up space since I was considering swapping the whole switch out to something like a Kalih RGB switch, but everything else with LEDs added at least 2 extra pins which aren't available for anything designed with Cherry RGB.

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>>60444393
>Ugly keyboard

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>>60458125

>>60455896
>buys random keyboard
>asks keyboard neckbeards for approval after the fact

>>60456959
>that's still pretty expensive
no it's not. a half-decent mouse costs twice as much.

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>$130
>ABS

>>60457954
What do you mean 2 pins? I've opened my pocket and the switches still have the central pin thing plus two soldered contacts

>>60444651
what's that cool ass rug please link where 2 cop

>>60458647
central pin is probably plastic no? 2 soldered connections are normal cherry mx pins. old style LEDs add a minimum of 2 pins in addition to standard cherry pins like >>60457841 up to around 4 for RGB LEDs. Not possible to swap out the Cherry RGB (2 pin) to something else with Cherries with LEDs

>>60458734
You can still swap Cherry RGB for Cherry Plate Mount with the black housing, you just won't get backlighting.

"""Premium""" ABS

why do retards pay $120 for colored abs caps

>>60459562
you answered your own question anon
>retards

I bought a team wolf zhuque ciy hot swappable Frankenstein monster as my cherry popper

What switches should I put on which keys?

Outemu blues all over, they sandy and less crisp than gat blues
I got gateron yellows on wasd, my fav for gaymen so far
Gat reds on directionals for 2hu (never use them)
O ring gat browns on f9 f10 for osu (I like blues better)
Gat green on space bar
Gat blew on shift

I got 2 of every gateron switch where should I put em

>>60459745
put them in your eye sockets

>>60459562
>why do retards act like retards
It's a mystery

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>>60459782

Join the /mkg/ telegram today for a complimentary fidget spinner!

https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEGEghPcd5X2gGVwmw

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>>60460064
put this meme

Received my first mechanical keyboard yesterday... very happy with the money I paid for it. Still getting used to it, to some extent, but I'm quickly getting comfortable with it. Its mostly a matter of the fact that I used my old keyboard for the past four years, so its been a good while and the sizes are ever so slightly different.
After just two hours of using the mech, and then picking up the old rubber dome board just to see what typing on it is like, I could instantly tell the difference and understand why you all praise mech keyboards so much now.
Bloody hell, its just so... clean.

Thanks for the advice I got the other day, I appreciate it.

>accidentally pour water over keyboard
>circuits so simple that they just have to dry to work again

Happened twice to me already.

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>>60457347
>Something like this?
>Video
Yes that, but this tutorial isn't very good tbf.

>I have no idea about how to solder
https://youtu.be/aaor4o9NWr0?t=267

>. I just need a tin thread and a soldering iron?
https://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Solder-031-lb-Spool/dp/B00DHHAZ3A
(You will not need close to this much solder for one key switch, so this is just an example)
https://www.amazon.com/Hakko-FX888D-23BY-Digital-Soldering-FX-888D/dp/B00ANZRT4M
https://www.amazon.com/Weller-WLC100-40-Watt-Soldering-Station/dp/B000AS28UC
https://www.radioshack.com/products/radioshack-60w-soldering-iron
Here's a few examples of soldering irons in different price ranges. All would work fine for this simple task.

>how I can desolder the switch?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008DJRYIG
https://www.amazon.com/WEmake-WM-SP4-Solder-Sucker-desoldering/dp/B0002KRAAG
(just examples, I don't have either)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbJh8j9qf_Y

Or you could just try heating up the solder point with your soldering iron, but ymmv

>or just a little piece out on his place? Be honest and straight please
It could be this, if you had the switch out of the keyboard you could see for yourself.
You can see here there is a white piece attached to stem on clicky switches, I'd open it up and see if something disturbed the 'clicky bit'

What board do you have anyway? Do you have a warrant for it?

Is there TADA68 board good? I'm looking for a board with Gat Blacks in Europe or from China and this is the only somewhat reputable one I've found outside of custom orders from companies like Varmilo.

Anyone have their daily drive with SA profile caps?
Are they annoyingly tall?

I'm interested in getting a set, and (apart from how difficult they seem to source) would love any ones input on how they feel.

>>60461407
I don't own one but people seem to think it is pretty good. You can get it with a plastic case for $58 on taobao or you can buy an aluminium case for another $58.

>Budget
€200 max, preferably much less.

>Location (continent at least)
Ireland

>Preferred switch type
Red/Black

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
Compact or TKL

>Backlight
Don't care either way

>Previous/current keyboards
CM Storm with Cherry Reds

Been looking at the Noppoo Choc mini as well as the pok3r. Really curious about those "silent" cherry red switches as I tend to be up to all hours and my current board is a noisy, rattly pos. Board will mostly be used for gayman. The choc mini has a very attractive layout and the only cons I can find are the non standard sized spacebar. The pok3r is more expensive but I haven't seen anyone saying much bad about it. This might be a retarded question but the pok3r is a floating key design I think? Does that make it louder when in practical use when compared to an enclosed for lack of a better word style board?

>>60461544
pretty sure tada is at least $100

Reminder to not fall for the colemak mem

>>60462086
thanks, i almost fell for it

What do you think about Anne Pro? Is it worth buying for 70 dollars as my first mech?

>>60461858
Nope 400 Yuan on Taobao at this moment.

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>>60457395
A what? Is 100% necessary to soldering?

>>60457444
>Depending on how the switches are mounted you may be able to open them without even desoldering.

Here you can see how are my switches >>60445568
The manual says "key route: 4.0 mm"

>>60461292
>What board do you have anyway?

The box where came my keyboard says:
"The PCB board is located in upper right of the keyboard, please keep it out of water".

>Do you have a warrant for it?

Nein ;_;

>>60461858
>>60461544
from taobao it'll cost extra for shipping and for proxy agent fees. aliexpress or the kbdfans store is easier to buy from and there it's $99 with free shipping for it with a plastic case and $161 with an aluminium case.

>>60462261
personally i'd prefer tada 68 or a 75% layout but anne pro is alright especially if you want a wireless keyboard

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>>60461586
there are a few ways to get the spacebar now

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Mechanical-keyboard-pbt-keyboarded-a-large-black-keyboard-keyboarded/2230037_32740037614.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/double-shot-pbt-keycap-cherry-profile-rainbow-cap-for-mx-usb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-5-5/2230037_32799680240.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Carbon-DSA-PBT-Perfect-Arc-Spherical-Keycap-White-Radium-vulture-Cherry-MX-switch-keycaps-for-Mechanical/32803021562.html

there is also the drevo gramr with a similar layout with a standard spacebar but with 1u bottom row modifiers to the right of the spacebar

>>60452121
Is enjoyPBT good?

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>>60463952
EnjoyPBT is the current memecap for good reason, anon. They look great and are cherry profile.

However, I was pretty upset when mine arrived and the numpad enter was warped and would stick. Nothing I wasn't able to fix, but it made me think that, while they're great (and I haven't seen other PBT caps with purple legends), they may not actually be worth quite $80.

>>60463952
They're just gateron keycaps so they are very good. BSP has the original cherry PBT tooling, which is better then anything GMK can make, but they don't do group buys anymore.

>>60463704
Sweet I was not aware of this at all. Do you happen to have any experience with the choc mini? I had been lubing myself up to just bite the bullet and get a pok3r shipped to euroland, but if I can save some cash and still get a good quality board I'm all for it.

>>60464138
>>60464050
Cheers anons.
Well in any case I'd rather drop 80 bucks on some questionable pbt caps than 130 on some questionable abs caps.

>>60444651
Idk if you're still in the thread but how do you feel about the wired spacenavigator vs the wireless? I kinda like the idea of wireless and it's only $20 extra but I haven't really looked up what the battery life is like

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>>60464441
>Idk if you're still in the thread
I'm always here anon

I considered getting the wireless one when I bought this one, but I don't really see much of a point in it unless you're going to use it while you're on the go. This thing is permanently connected to my computer, which doesn't get moved around a whole lot. Even if my workhorse were a laptop, I don't think there's much of a point in getting the wireless one. I don't know about you, but I think most people who do CAD aren't very likely to do it while they're anywhere else but than sitting at a desk with all their work materials around anyway.

tl;dr unless you hate wires I don't see why you'd get the wireless one

>>60464403
I've had a cap that was supposed to be scooped but wasn't on my tada (which has caps made by enjoypbt), but originative issued me a replacement free of any charge. That's just a matter of QC, the enjoyPBT sushi set I got was in absolutely mint condition.

>>60445629
Go back to red dit nigger

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Im looking for a keyboard like the VicTop (cheap and 87) but with black or red switches, anyone have any suggestions?

>>60465187
t. redditor who bashes everything that has to do with reddit to try to fit in on 4chin

>>60458900
well that completely defeats the purpose of what i want. If I didn't want any backlighting I can just turn it off on the Ducky Pocket.

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Anyone here type on DSA? What's it like compared to a more sculpted profile?

>>60465828
I like DSA on nearly flat keyboards, it's real nice on my Pok3r with aftermarket case.

>>60458519
I want to see what other anons think of it after I've tried it out myself, is there harm in that?

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>light up keyboards
For what purpose? It certainly isn't for visibility because if you can't find your way around a keyboard blindfolded by now than you shouldn't be on here, so is it just to look cool?

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>>60466008
Coloured backlighting has the same purpose as colourful aftermarket keycaps, it makes the board look cool in their view, which is fine to me.

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>>60466008
You're going about it the wrong way. The more meme points you have the better and more successful you'll be. Its a fact, just look at Donald Trump.

>>60466008
I honestly can't stand light up shit, my keyboard has no led lights but my mouse used to, got so pissed one night I opened it up and disconnected the LEDs.

I just can't stand lights while I'm trying to go to sleep, and even if the smallest of light hits me I can't fall asleep.

>>60466096
>numpad to the left
What?

Captcha: reek cock

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>>60466065
Yeah, I'm like >>60466130, I don't like things being lit.


>>60466096
I get my meme points another way...
>pic related

>>60466182
cringe

>>60444576
oh man. i should have gotten the masterkeys m.
i love my ducky but i think a tkl would have been a better choise-.

>>60466483
fullsize fags BTFO yet again

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>>60466135
How else are left handed people supposed to type?

is Unicomp the only place I can buy custom colored keycaps for my IBM Model M?

>Budget
Around 100€, but don't mind going overboard that (a bit)

>Location
Greece, Europe

>Preferred switch type
tactile, non-clicky, low or medium resistance.

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
At least enough to see what I'm typing in the dark

>Current keyboard
Razer Blackwidow Ultimate.

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>>60466454
You sound frustrated

>>60467415
if you're left handed why don't you mirror the whole layout

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>>60467429
Yes

>>60467638
thanks, I wanted to replace a ton of keys, looks like i'll just be on the order page for a while lol

>>60467415
>that terrible color scheme
>probably paid over $100 for those 3 hideous "totally unique"™ skull artisans
>$130 ABS caps
>"Code" key
>hipster layout for no reason

This is probably the worst looking keyboard I have ever seen.

I keep hitting the wrong buttons in vidya when im not in home row.
I wanna try converting my keyboard to braille, anyone got an suggestions how I would do this?
They dont appear to sell keycaps online but could i put droplets of super glue maybe?

>>60467677
You could just order a set of white keys and dye them yourself. It would save a bunch of money if you wanted to color the entire keyboard.

>>60467782
fck u faggt

>>60467415
Same way your using your right hand

>>60468012
https://www.amazon.com/Braille-Keyboard-Stickers-Visually-Impaired/dp/B001BPYJQO

>>60469009
>https://www.amazon.com/Braille-Keyboard-Stickers-Visually-Impaired/dp/B001BPYJQO
thanks

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>tfw ISO cuck
>tfw no keycaps
>tfw have to build my own keyboards for anything that isn't vanilla mx brown shit
>tfw no gf

when will it end?

>>60469388
just embrace the chinaman and get a varmilo, dyesub pbt for lot of ISO languages and options for almost every cherry switch on the market and gateron too if thats more your speed

>>60469614
I'm thinking about going for the mx silent blacks/reds, but I'd like to try them on a switch tester first before outright buying a whole board.

>>60469388
Just get fucking ANSI. I made the switch, and couldn't be happier.

>>60469837
this

>>60469654
>mx silent blacks/reds
why not lubed gateron black/reds with o-rings

the benefit of the silent blacks/reds is dubious and once the rubber goes bad you can replace the o-rings for a couple of bucks

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>>60469388
Once you give up on ISO.
All I wanted was some PBT blanks in ISO, and I couldn't find goddamn anything. Admittedly, there's far more ISO support than there was two or something years ago, but it still sucks. Just get ANSI, not only will you have a greater selection of keycaps, you will also have a better layout to type on.

>>60468422
interesting, i had not considered doing that. I'm going to guess that its a relatively easy procedure. I saw that unicomp sells full unprinted sets. Id have to figure out legends I guess or just stob being a typing pleb

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>>60470384
google "dye unicomp keycaps"

>>60470694
why the fuck would you do that

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Probably gonna pick up a cheap ass Drevo gramr. Should I go with the outemu blues?

>>60471596
yea boi

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>>60470694
there are much better camos for shitposting

>>60450851
Where can I buy this exact keyboard, as configured?

I wonder how much more it would cost compared to Matias for a manufacturer to clone complicated ALPS switches.

New thread: >>60472692

>>60472599
Considering how those switches almost bankrupted Alps electric, I'd say quite a lot more

>>60472831
but now you have autists and fags with a keyboard fetish who will pay top dollar for anything "new" that has to do with keyboards

>>60455896

Not bad but overpriced at $150.

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Which one would /mech/ buy?

>>60473447
they all look really chinky i hope you're not paying too much for this

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>>60473705

$100 (2nd one from the left).

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im getting this. already know /g/ won't like it. looks comfy to me though.

>>60473775
at least it's not fullsize and it's not impossible to get aftermarket keycaps

>>60473812
i'm just so lost. i think the keyboard i linked looks better than anything else posted on here. everything else looks pretentious.

>>60474047
if you want TKL you have plenty of options

look at cooler master masterkeys pro S/M

this has rarer switches like mx clear and green:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/87-keys-mechanical-keyboard-TKL-tenkeyless-gaming-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown-blue-red-87-compact/32285359058.html

>>60473775
That tramp stamp looks ugly. Just get something like a cooler master or a ducky.

>>60471400
Hackers (1995)