>get 8GB they said
Remember to never fall for /g/ memes. Get 16GiB. Ignore /g/ shills recommending 8GB. It's not enough in 2017.
12GB is enough for me.
>>60404593
4/5 poeple on g will fall for this. If you feel concerned or have any empathy for these poeple please call the number below and help safe the poeple that need help the most.
Maybe not enough to transmit your every keystroke to a Microsoft server near you
I have 4gb of ram used just for Firefox in Windows
in Linux 1.7 on average
>>60404626
RAMlet detected.
>>60404629
And TempleOS probably takes 10 MB maximum. Your point exactly retard?
>16GB is enough
>>60404665
>attempting to visualise in java your mother's asshole
kek. You'll always run out of memory.
>>60404593
Windows 10 needs lot of memory to log everything you do and send it to Microsoft servers. You should really consider upgrading to 64GB.
well
>>60404650
Windows is shit
>>60404626
Kek. there are games that take more ram than 8GB to play, let alone actual work
>>60404593
I got 32 GB for $30 a stick. The LP 1333 8x4 set is usually $90 a dimm. Working at a computer store has its perks. It's low frequency by default but handles 1600 MHz well, and is cas 10.
8GB is still fine for most people.
>>60404722
Cities Skylines is awful about this. I'm usually pulling 9-10GB. Once you add on other programs like Firefox and general system processes that's pretty much all of my 16GB or RAM gone.
Nigger I'm sitting at 6.8/8 GB used with AutoCAD, Revit, chrome with 3 tabs, excel and PDF reader, what the fuck are you doing that requires a gozilion GB ram?
>>60404630
I have 2 GB in my thinkpad x60 and 4 GB in my desktop. They both run fine with gentoo linux.
>>60404593
Recommending 8GB was a meme in 2010
>>60404902
GNU/Linux(Torvald's Kernel)
>>60404902
So, they're basically useless then?
>>60404593
12GB is barely enough.
It was overkill in 2013 tho
>>60404593
Why aren't you running a pagefile?
>>60405082
I'm paranoid about SSD wear.
Why do you guys assume everyones use case is the same as yours?
>>60405244
reeee get off my lawn normie
Literally no reason not to get 16gb of RAM. RAM is cheap as shit.
>>60405248
Fuck you, and fuck your memes.
12gb master Race here.
Just make a larger page
>>60405219
Get over it.
>>60404593
Windows is so bloated
>>60404593
>2017
>not maxing out your the limit of your mobo
32 is comfy but I wish my board could hold 64
>>60404665
>80 threads
¿que
>>60404593
fell for /g
people they said 8 gb is enough
people that said buy amd rysen instead waiting skylake-x in june.
really make you think.
>>60405389
Nope. There is no reason to use swap in 2017.
Unless you're a lelnoox user
>>60404650
are you suggesting its ok for windows to require 4gb of ram to surf the web?
>>60405502
Enjoy running out of commit.
>>60405675
Nice shitposting you got there.
>>60405754
>doesn't know about SSD endurance
>doesn't know what commit is
You don't really know much, do you?
>>60405784
>shitposting intensifies
>>60405816
>spoonfeed me
No.
>>60405841
>shitposting
>m-m-m-uh cummit!
>decreasing ssd use is baaaad! you can't just have 16gb ram and use it, you have to write data to disk! you have to because I said so! buhuuu
kill yourself. Unironically.
>>60405871
>6.7GB
>>60404593
>over 8gb of it is disk cache
>the most bloated OS in existence
>16gb is needed!!!!!!
Kys
>>60405969
You're one retarded shitposter, you know that?
How about you use actual arguments instead of shitting with worthless statements?
>>60406012
>6.7GB
>third world comma
>>60405505
1- that's not true. I use Windows too, so I know empirically you're lying.
2- Windows is a desktop OS. It's optimized for desktop usage. This means for example, preloading on unused RAM frequently used programs so they're already ready when you first open them. Linux lacks this basic functionality, because it's primarily a server OS. This means less RAM usage, but slower program boot times, for example. Chrome opens instantly for me on Windows while it literally takes seconds on Linux, same machine. This also means any RAM usage comparison between completely different OSes is flawed.
>>60404593
Somebody forgot to turn off some of the telemetry on install and probably has 100+ tabs and shitty add ons
If you're using over 2GB RAM on startup you're doing something horribly wrong
>>60406155
tfw MEGA-TASKING
>>60405502
If you had 1/3 of that RAM there was no reason to use a swapfile on Linux even 10 years ago.
Windows 10 has mostly caught up with Linux' overall awesome memory management capabilities for desktop usage, but only mostly.
>>60406205
I'm 2-pass IVTC'ing one series while editing subs/splitting/remuxing/writing ordered chapters/watching another while shitposting and torrenting.
>>60404593
>telling you to spend less is now shilling
Ok
It depends on what you do with the PC you gigantic retard.
AAA games on max will obviously need 16GB.
>>60404593
>cached 10gb
You're a fucking retard.
>>60404593
I've got 20GB of RAM
and I can say.. 8 is enought
fuck dat RAM faggotry
>>60406887
The cache doesn't have anything to do with anything.
>>60404593
I happily use 8gb, if your using more than that at idle and aren't happy about it one of two things has happened:
1. You misunderstood what you wanted and needed out of your computer in the first place, in that case you shouldn't be building them yourself, because you clearly don't understand what your doing.
2. Your running enormous amounts of processes that you don't need, which means you don't understand how to effectively manage your computer, and don't understand what your doing.
Time to go read a fucking book my friend.
>>60404593
I nearly cap at 16 now too depending on how many firefox tabs, if I have a VM running, adobe after effects etc
So ill likely up to 32 soon
>>60404593
barely even use up 200mb idle
>>60407010
>your using
>your doing
>your running
>your doing
>Time to go read a fucking book
>>60406435
he's got a pretty good point there
>>60406953
Yes it does. It's how much RAM your OS has data cached in for quick access. It's not in active use. You could get 64 gigs of ram and if you use your computer long enough, it will fill that up with cached data.
I have 8gb, the only time I've seen a memory warning was on playing just cause 3, the game draws just about all the ram it can.
Game still runs with zero performance issues, can alt-tab to windows on a dime, open browser and do shit in the background.
Like I need internet memers to tell me about things.
>>60404593
>Not getting 32gb and never worrying about RAM again
>>60407613
It has nothing to do with his problem. Cache uses unused RAM and doesn't count it as anything but cached.
>>60406371
>>60407873
Literally what in the fuck are you even talking about?
>>60407206
>>60407819
>32G is the new 640K
Wew lad
Ignore winplebs. 40 MBYTES is all you need.
>>60407873
>cache uses all the RAM to "improve performance"
>run out of RAM because of that
>have to resort to using the page file on the fucking disk as a result
"Improving performance" muh fucking ASS
>>60408726
Windows 98 could get by with the same if not less, and was more useful.
>>60408774
Nice meme, but alpine is certainly more useful than any windows
I have 2 GB DDR2
>>60405871
You do realise the data will have to be committed to the disk at some point and that not doing so somewhat regularly will increase your chances of data loss, right?
>tfw running 8 gb just fine
What are you autists doing with your OS?
>>60404593
>fill memory
>oh GOD!! it's 2017!!! 8gb is not Enough!!!!! Xddd fuch /g/ _I_
>>60407010
What are you smoking, you stupid bitch?
It's a laptop. I didn't build it myself.
>enormous amounts of processes that you don't need
Except 99% of these processes take maybe 1GB of this RAM. Rest is used by chrome, transmission daemon, two vms, windowed gmod and mpc-hc handling 1080p movie.
Nothing fancy, huh?
>>60404593
4GB is enough.
>>60406887
Except cached ram is on white. This "10GB" is actually Modified Memory.
kys
>>60404593
>DDR3
>1600Mhz
>2017
>>60408960
If windows doesn't have pagefile enabled it won't cummit anything into disk. It will simply show me a warning box that I'm running out of memory, and then close something for me if there is less than 100MB of memory.
And guess what, this NEVER happened, because windows can suspend it's functionality in background to free up memory, and samae goes for mpc-hc and gmod which frees up memory if needed.
The only situation when windows closed something for me was using dell venue 8 pro with 2GB RAM with pagefile disabled, and only when running chromium with 10 tabs, thunderbird and watching sh0ta in movie player.
>>60404593
tfw
>>60404593
Really makes you think
>>60409208
>Memoria
yep, really makes me think. Get a job jamal
>>60409024
>Xddd fuch /g/ _I_
>>60409243
*Memória
*João
I'm working right now :^)
>>60404593
>Ignore /g/ shills recommending 8GB. It's not enough in 2017.
Learn how to work with efficient software then, dumbass.
>>60409276
I don't care, Joao Almeida. Get off my lawn.
>>60409362
>lilnoox
>efficient
hahaahhaha, especially GPU drivers. hahhahaah
>>60409362
>390MB
I rarely went over that on XP. What are you doing?
>>60409371
João da Silva, retard.
Had 16 GB in previous build (4x4)
Thinking about getting 32 (4x8) in next build.
I have no idea when it comes to choosing ram but I know speed and timings are important. I'm sure getting 16 gb with better specs will be better than 32 with worse specs. Any anons want to chime in?
The problem is that windows uses ~2,5gb just idling.
>>60408796
>Windows 98
>can use Office 97
>can use lotsa games
>can use Internet Explorer / Netscape Navigator to get on the web
>can use Napster/Winamp to get and listen to music
>can use Outlook Express to read and send email
>and much more
>Alpine Linux
>can open terminal to run some commands revolving around showing system info or moving files around or dicking around with just the system itself for the sake of just dicking around with the system itself and not much more
>can edit and run scripts achieving more of the above
>can read manpages on these commands/scripts
>can read text files
>that's about it
wew lad
>
>>60409635
Troff > Office
bsdgames > windows games
surf > IE
curl/ffplay > napster/winamp
mail > outlook
and much more with the power of unix
>>60409721
>bsdgames
Yea. Cowsay is particulary exciting, isn't it.
>>60404902
>2GB
>4GB
>loonix
>gentoo
KYS
>>60405467
Probably just two regular 20 core 40 thread xeons.
>>60405410
>So bloated
>So bloated that it actually uses maybe 4GB the rest is a RAMDisk partition.
>>60404593
I'm ok with 8GB.
>>60410000
>soooo bloated
>>60410128
>soooo third world he doesn't know it's a sarcastic reply.
>>60410128
Fuck off sebastian.
When will ramlets learn
honestly 8gb is too much for me, thinking of downgrading to 4gb
>>60409044
> You misunderstood what you wanted and needed out of your computer in the first place
>>60409548
It doesn't.
>>60404665
>look at my office's server!11!!1!!!11
>>60410646
You should be running LTSB.
>>60413589
Yeah I should, it was the only copy I had on hand when I was installing it though
>>60404593
How do you even use this much ram
Just close the shit you're not using
>>60405502
>Nope. There is no reason to use swap in 2017.
There is, due to how most OSs works. You can't do a memory dump of a BSOD in Windows without a swap for example.
>>60414400
>Not just remote kernel debugging
Lmaoing at your life
>>60404593
Something misbehaves in your system, check what consumes memory. I have only 2.2gb consumed with all the shit running.
>>60414400
That dump will do nothing but waste the disk space.
>>60404593
What the fuck do you people even do with all that RAM?? I can run all programs I want at the same time no problem with 8GB (browser, antivirus, some productivity software).
The only time I ran out of memory was when my PC had a memory leak desu
>>60404593
> Using Windows
gtfo
>>60404593
>windblows problems
Rarely break 3 GiB, most hover below 2, and that's with many tabs open in Firefox.
>>60414400
Except my windows 10 never BSODs, so I don't give a shit.
Using 1.4GiB right now on my Mint install
>>60413812
I just reformatted today. LTSB has almost none of the garbage the Enterprise versions have. No Cortana, no app store, no edge, no candy crush. It still has one drive but that is easy to remove.
>>60414686
Does it still have the winstore calculator?
It's very well made 2bh, I use the programmer mode every day
>>60414723
It has the regular one with programmer mode, pic related.
>>60414874
Oh that's good enough then, thanks
>>60409208
you could do better you know
>>60413315
It's actually >look at this image I found by searching Google
>>60404593
I run Windows 10 ltsb just fine on my laptop with 2gb ram
tfw paid $140 for 32GB ddr4 3000mhz
still need more though
>>60404593
>t's not enough in 2017
umm.. yea it is