After yesterday's happening, why haven't you left Windows

>>60371675
I'm a trendsetter. The new trend is staying on Windows.

>>60371675
Because every "free" user is a cunt about it. I don't want to be associated with that.

Call me when Linux has any good CAD software.

Most don't care.
But in a semi related note. What happens with the ATM's?

>>60371675
At best they will move to OSX. Linux has no place in the office unfortunately.

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>>60368028
hey anon i found it

>>60371675
Because my time isn't worthless like yours

It's totally impractical if your a semi normie that uses Adobe suite alot in there job
>Inb4 Gimp
Fucking terrible

>>60373217
Oops. All you're .psd has been encrypted.

>>60371812
>what is draftsight
>what is autocad being the buggiest shit on earth

>>60371812
Check these out.

http://alternativeto.net/software/autocad/?platform=linux#

>>60371675
I keep my windows updated.

>>60371857
>he doesn't know about all the executives running Linux

The game development industry practically revolves around Windows.

>>60373290
I sure don't.

>>60373283
That's an impressive amount of shit.

>>60371675

I embraced the botnet 10 and it updates fine, so no happening for me.

also linuxfags experience fuckups too, they just see it as something usual and act cool about it.

>>60371675

"yesterday's happening"???

https://intel.malwaretech.com/pewpew.html

fucking n00b piss off and stop spreading fake news

>>60371675
Because I installed the march patch for that. Why should I switch if I don't get viruses?

>>60371675
I'm downloading Ubuntu right now, wish me luck /g/!

I just did.

society is about to collapse!!

PANIC!!! FOR CHRISTS SAKE PANIC!!!!!!!

>>60371675
>Video editing
>Photo editing
>Digital art
>Music production
>CAD
>3D modelling/animation
>Circuit design/simulation
>Video games
Some of the stuff Windows has an advantage in. I'd like to switch completely to Linux, but it has shit for software support.

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>>60371675
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>60371675
Linux can't play HD video without screen tearing

>>60371675
Linux has no games.

>>60371675
I already did ~10 years ago

>>60371675
Linux doesn't have a good shell like Powershell.

>>60373590
>Video editing
DaVinci Resolve

>Photo editing
GIMP

>Digital art
Krita

>Music production
Bitwig

>CAD
FreeCAD

>3D modelling/animation
Blender

>Circuit design/simulation
CircuitMaker

>Video games
PlayStation 4 Pro

>>60373703
Linux has Powershell.

>>60373703
Wrong.
https://github.com/powershell/powershell

>>60373703
>powershell
>good
Winkeks everyone

>>60373730
>Video games
>PlayStation 4 Pro
What did he mean by this?

>>60373760
He meant use the game console to play games.

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>>60373760
E X C L U S I V E S

>>60373703
Bash is superior.

>>60373730
Some of those are complete shit. At best, they're almost as good as what Windows has. As a whole that list is totally inferior.

>>60373781
So is this an argument against Linux?

>>60373590
>3D modelling/animation

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/search-result/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2016/ENU/Installation-Maya/files/GUID-3E0A3A36-B1C2-4B91-994B-731C672D9694-htm.html

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>>60371873

>>60373781
>Use 4 year old laptop hardware to play games
>This is somehow an argument against windows

Video games and foobar2000.

>>60373825
bash is trash, you could have easily said tcsh.

>>60373858
If playing video games is the primary reason you use your OS you should stop coming to an actual technology forum. Dragon dildo preference is not knowledge and that's all you winniggers contribute to here.

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>>60373858
>foobar2000

DeaDBeeF. It follows the foobar2000 philosophy.

http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/

>>60373842
Cool, now support the industry standard software in every other category and people might think about switching.

Also, video game supoort. Despite what autists on /g/ think, that's pretty significant.

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Muh vijeo gaymes, as always.

>>60373590
Run it all in a windows VM with GPU passthrough.
Totally still Linux.

>>60373783
This isn't /v/ and some of those games aren't even exclusives.

The freetard is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a virgin, NEET, commie, ricer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But tell him nogames and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

>>60373730
>PS4
AHAHAHAHAHA
No fuck you. If you're trying to convert others to the free software philosophy you of all people should understand why Sony deserves $0 from me or anyone else.

Because of how easy it is to completely break linux.
I tried installing Lubuntu on my old x41t. Ran great except that I got two popup messages every time I hit the desktop that said "System problem detected." and gave me literally no details as to what was broken.
Supposedly its just an issue with 32 bit Ubuntu not liking some hardware. Oh well.
I find you can install the unity desktop which I quite like, and I think its great for a tablet pc.
Install it, it comes with bloat and it defaulted to unity8 which is absolute trash and lags like no other compared to literally anything else.
Fuck it, uninstall it.
Logout, go to log back in, lightdm greeter looks like the unity theme, oh boy.
Can't log in, it just flashes black and then back to the login screen every time.
Fucking toasted, fine
Turn it off, back on again, this time i have no greeter, can't get into the terminal, but it loaded something because I have 3 new system problem messages again with no details.
I promptly beat my x41t to death, its in the trash now, along with the usb of Lubuntu

Id rather use shitty fucked up windows 10 with its forced updates and telemetry than ever use linux again.
I'm fucking tired of it, I have tried so many times, and so many machines, so many different distros and they're all shit and break randomly after installing shit.
Trying to install java, whoops, java doesn't work and neither does flash anymore, good luck faggot
Go to install xfce, guess what, now unity has xfce elements all over it and xfce has a bunch of black spots, better install compliz (hint, good luck)

I'm putting windows 8.1 on my shitbox, that never gave me any problems whatsoever

>>60374027
>free software philosophy

The post you quoted listed a lot of proprietary software.

>>60373983
>Windows VM with PCI passthrough
This is cool, but completely pointless if most of your time is spent on Windows anyway.

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>>60373848
that was alpha release edit desu
have final beta

>>60371675
Don't invite normies into Linux, normies ruin everything

Just let them keep having their data stolen by megacorps like the retarded sheep they are

>>60373848
tell me you made this using free software?

>>60374068
yay

>>60374113
Define what a "normie" is.

>>60373590
Of course you already know that the support isn't supposed to come from Linux but the software vendors that make the programs. Nobody is forcing them to not support Linux, at least as far as we all know.

>>60373858
I get the video games but
>using a certain OS just for something as trivial task as playing an audio file
You could definitely find an alternative.

>>60374114
100% gimp
altho the fattening was made by another anon

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>>60373640

>>60374167
Of course it's not on Linux to support it, but until Linux has the support of major software it won't be anything more than a niche hobby is in the consumer market.

>>60371675
Mac master race, reporting in

>>60373640
>>60373672
>>60373827
bullshit

>>60374032
> Because of how easy it is to completely break linux.

Not as easy as it is to completely break windows.

>>60374113

This man knows what it's all about.

Dumb question here

How do you pirate Linux games?

Is is just a windows game with a modified executable or a wine loader or something?

>>60374314
They won't support alternative systems if those don't have enough users. That's why it's counter-productive when people say "nobody should use Linux since they have no programs". It should be the other way around, everyone should be using it unless they need some professional software that isn't available. Then we would see more software support in the near future.

>>60374400

sudo pacman -S supertuxkart

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>>60374445
b-but

>>60373927
Here's your reply.

>>60373940
I'll have to check it again, last time I gave it a run it wasn't so great. The primary things for me are playback control and library layout. I like a nice cursor follows playback, playback follows cursor and a tree style library layout that auto adds to the current playlist.

>>60374167
lel
I'd wager that almost everyone on the planet that owns a personal computer plays music on it, I highly doubt I'm the odd one out. Maybe you think audio playback is trivial but I'd rather not be without a proper player.

>>60371675
On the path to qubes os right now

>>60374400
You get an archive with an install.sh script. Most unauthorized copying is for DRM-free games.

>>60373852
It's not an argument against Windows, it's an alternative.

>>60374027
Where did he say anything about free software?

>>60374575
If you're using GNU/Linux you must be an advocate of FOSS. If you're not you must a mouthbreathing autist.

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Because the worm didn't affect anyone who had up to date security patches.

>>60374598
Freetards are the mouthbreathing autists.

>>60371675
Gaming but I use both on 2 PCs - Pentium D 3.4 performs well under GNU/Linux

>>60374521
What I mean is the task is so simple: play an audio file. There are dozens if not hundreds of players that can do that so you can absolutely find an alternative for that without losing any must-have features.

>>60374620
>Use "freetard" OS
>call the maintainers and developers "mouthbreathing autists"
>hate FOSS
Go back to Windows or cuckOS. You don't score any coolguy points here for using GNU/Linux.

Because:

1) Quite a few of my steam games don't have native Linux support and don't work properly with Wine

2) I use Adobe products like Photoshop, and I can't just use something like Gimp because Photoshop is pretty much the industry standard.

Once those two problems are out of the way, I'll probably make the switch.

>>60374657
The task is not "play an audio file" it is "manage my entire audio library", yes I can find anything to replace playing a single file, I have yet to find something that handles everything foobar already does, even basic features like "stop after current" are missing in a lot of players, forget about library managment, searching, auto playlists, extensible via sdk, and more. For someone that listens to audio a majority of the day, it's an important aspect of my desktop and I'm not willing to settle for less.

The idea of just replicating all I need myself has crossed my mind but I haven't had the time to implement it yet and I don't see it happening anytime soon unless I absolutely have to.

>>>60373858
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PC_games

>>60374739
Use Krita and/or dual boot.

>>60374669
I don't use Linux to be cool.

>>60374764
I should mention cmus is the player I use while not on Windows, it's almost a good enough replacement.

>>60374772
I play some of those.

I really like when looneyksfags go PC IS FOR SPREADSHEETS GO PLAY ON CONSOLES but when some AAA game gets lenawks version it's WINDOWS IS FINISHED HAIL STALLMAN GNU4LYFE

>>60371675
FL Studio, Ableton, misc software for my controllers. The software runs in Wine ok but tends to show its issues the more complex my projects are. I can never get my PCM wave files to work and I cba to convert my sample library. Ive considered trying VMK passthru but then its like whats the point. LTSB works fine, i just use it for browsing and creating music.

>>60375532
>He thinks his shitty dubstep matters to anyone

Does Linux have a pdf reader as good as Sumatra?
I tried Xubuntu from a USB and the stock pdf reader was garbage

>>60375586
just use the browser.

>>60375567
>shitting on people for having hobbies
You sound like a pleasant individual.

>>60375613
I bet you shill your SoundCloud on /mu/ lmao

>>60375627
I'm not him.

>>60375586
yes
mupdf
also for android

>>60375627
I'd rather have people find it on their own.
>>60375567
Lol? Not fot me

>>60373510
You dont need luck with *buntu distros anon

>>60375383
It's almost as if different people have different opinions or something. Weird.

>>60374422
Good luck convincing people to use an OS that doesn't have any of the software or games they use.

>>60373730
Let me fix this

>Video games
Steam

>>60375824
>let me fix this by making it worse

>>60375586
You just cant judge a SO by the default PDF reader

Because The Witcher 3 is such a good game

>>60375824
Steam is a distribution platform, the problem is the lack of games available for Linux compared to Windows.

>>60375842
Explain me more, steam is worse than Sony...

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>>60375879
It was never coming to Linux. :(

>>60375889
You're right but its a better option than buy a console to play games

This is pretty simple.

Most people who still use Windows and don't want to switch to Linux use it because:

-They need an office suite worth a shit
-They need audio/video production software
-They need graphic design software
-They want to enjoy AAA games and console ports to PC
-They don't want to deal with anything else they're not too familiar with, like the folder structure from linux
-They can't deal with shit not being installed with installation wizards or to have to google why suddenly programs like Steam will download libraries they have to delete in order to make the client work properly
-They don't want issues with tearing, multimonitor support or specific hardware support (like certain graphic tablets, sound cards or gamepads)
-They use a tablet or a device in which installing linux is fairly hard because of how fucking backwards it is (also a device that should be thrown away, but still, I have one of those)
-They're afraid of terminals (I met some people that fit this description)

Most people who use macOS and don't want to switch to Linux use it because:

-They need some of the software described on Windows as well
-With some extra software that's not even available on Windows for production
-They need to have the whole experience of something that just works in most cases, with shit breaking as a rare exception and a system that's not exactly secure but still doesn't get attacked as often
-They simply do not want to deal with the system from the same perspective: they see it more as a secondary tool to get what they want done
-They'd rather pay for software that does what they want than just wait until some good samaritan does it for free, or program such software themselves
-They don't want issues with tearing or multimonitor support

Inconsistent fonts, ugly UI regardless of DE, no blizzard games, no ms office/visual studio.

>>60376321
>Ugly UI
>Blizlard
Do you enjoy being a walking stereotype?

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>>60376420

>>60373510
it's a nice OS even with unity as the DE, have fun.

>>60376479
What the fuck
Why do you think anyone should take you seriously?

>>60376524
Because I know more about computers than you and have more fun with mine than you do. :)

>>60371754
You could also try and change that.

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>>60376533
>I know more about computers than you

>>60373672
get a life

I play games and Linux is really slow no matter what distro I use.

>>60373946
>Also, video game supoort. Despite what autists on /g/ think, that's pretty significant.
Quite a great deal of them work perfectly well in Wine.

I'm unsure of whether or not Linux can run on my Macbook Air and I need Windows for Visual Studio.

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>>60374619
>force windows updates down peoples throats since vista, annoying everyone in the process
>people still manage to not have updates installed to prevent this
Failing on all fronts as usual.

Because port 445 is blocked

>>60371675
talk to me again when linux has
>proper video driver support where my gtx 960m works out of the box
>no more painfully obvious and party-crashing bugs an average user can run into by just doing "happy path" things like fucking logging in
>some unison and cooperability, unlike the current clusterfuck of fragmentation into 5000 alternatives where only ~3 are needed that it has now, with every one of those redundant things being unfinished unusable shit that locks you into its specific ecosystem
>ports of all major software - emulation doesn't count because I want my software to actually be robust and reliable, not crashing on a whim because of some unimplemented syscall

>>60376741
>I'm unsure of whether or not Linux can run on my Macbook Air
It does.
>I need Windows for Visual Studio.
Noone needs Visual Studio.

For all the whinging about the dominance of Windows OS, they fucking OWN business productivity space.

Businesses can buy Office and have their workers know (to varying degrees of 'know') how to use it, or train up every single employee on how to get things done on open|libre office.

Given what utter retards most people are, which is more likely?

>>60371675
Because I have a MacBook which runs Mac OS. And I have an iPhone. I don't need Freetard bullshit.

>>60376768
>spoonfeed me abloooboo
back to >>>/v/

I couldn't figure out how to turn off mouse acceleration.

>>60373590
>implying you are a video and photo editing digital artist who produces music while designing animated 3d models and CBs

>>60376768
Nobody cares what you demand from an OS, it's not like you would be paying for it anyway. You either use Linux or don't. It's more likely that the next generation will be using Linux since they aren't mentally stuck with the old habits and unable to change. They are learning everything from zero and that's when they can choose Linux instead.

>>60377221
GNU/Linux*

I setup vga passthrough for the first time today so i can run linux but still have my games

>>60371675
Because my laptop was designed for Windows XP, it even has a sticker saying so right by the intel atom sticker.

Because my Windows 10 installation is still just fine because I still keep it updated and the last update was the other day, I already have Manjaro Budgie 17.0.1 on my T420's secondary SSD anyway

>>60374113
>Just let them keep having their data stolen by megacorps like the retarded sheep they are

This is exactly it. We need sheep in the world to feed off. Please stop encouraging normies to migrate.

Linux needs to be made harder to use.

>>60374619
>muh patches
if Windows wasn't annoying as fuck and if patching didn't literally fuck you, there might have been fewer affected machines

still you can't expect everybody to upgrade their IT infrastructure every couple of years just because MS says so, that'd be retarded

>>60376768
How about this, the next batch of exploits fucks you and then you get your shit bricked again, and you keep whining about it on your windows forums.

ITT: mad windows shills getting mad.

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Windows is almost finished lads.

>>60377417
That name will never catch on since it doesn't roll off the tongue nicely. People will come up with a totally different easy nickname or just call it Linux since that's the part that's absolutely everywhere and it's easy to pronounce too.

I'm hoping GNU won't disappear anywhere but out of the two I value Linux more for compatibility reasons. Everything should use Linux in my opinion and we're halfway there already. I try not to even buy devices that don't have Linux.

>>60378075
>>60377417
Not only does it sound dumb, but it's just plain wrong.

>>60371675
Beacuse desktop not server....

>>60373602
It's Linux faggit, the Linus says so.

Linus > Stallman

>>60378212
Linux isn't just for servers.

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>>60378256
>blocks your path
not so fast

>>60378271
I'm not going to use an inferior desktop solution though am I?

windoze > any flavour of linux DM

When i install linux it's headless with no bloat

>>60378289
Is this the guy that said a monolithic kernel won't become popular? Linus is still the better guy.

>>60373281
As a mechatronic engineer that loves Linux, this looks great. Thanks

>>60378289

He's gonna be vindicated if Fuschia gains ground
Maybe Google will succeed with the microkernel where GNU hasn't

I don't have to? I had nothing to worry about in this "attack"

>>60378327
>I'm not going to use an inferior desktop solution though
Then why are you using Windows?

>>60371675
I use common sense with email attachments and don't dwell on a large corporate network

>>60378752
>don't dwell on a large corporate network
How does it feel to be unemployed?

>>60376643
>>>60373672
>get a life
What do you mean by "get a life"? A life when your OS is destroying itself every month? Or a life where you instead of playing games are compiling your own Linux kernel?

>>60371675
Because Linux is garbage OS you can't do anything with no matter how much neckbeard NEETs tell me to.

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>>60373858
Foobar2000 runs well on wine. Been using it for years.

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>>60374032
Turns out Ubuntu isn't a good fit for you.

Maybe try Arch or something else less hostile to customization than ubuntu.

>>60371675
If only Altium was for Linux...

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>>60373290

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Just do yourself a huge favor and switch to Linux. Do you really want corporations like Microsoft to be the ones in control of your devices? Wouldn't you rather be the master? You can always keep Windows on a partition and dual boot for when you feel like playing video games or using whatever awful software your job forces you to use while keeping your documents, nay, your entire digital life on a secure platform that works for you and only you.

I have auto update on :^)

>>60376768
wine is not an emulator

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Because the problems its on XP, retards.
Only meme companies get infected, not fucking lonly weeabos.
Enjoy enter several codes to, per example, listen to music lol

>>60379912
-1/10

>>60376770
>Noone needs Visual Studio.
Unfortunately my employer requires its usage, but you wouldn't know anything about having an actual job would you?

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>>60380335

>>60371675
What happened yesterday?

>>60374054
No reboots necessary so no broken workflow on reset.

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>>60374400
sudo pacman -S xonotic

>>60380335
>Unfortunately my employer requires its usage
This is really one of the most cancerous thing about IDEs. Since they infest the build process, everyone has to use the same thing.

Gayman, painfully.

Vulcan can't be adopted soon enough.

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>>60381176
WTF am I watching?

>>60381373
>Vulkan [ftfy] can't be adopted soon enough.
The same thing has been possible to say about OpenGL for many years, though, and yet devs still choose Direct3D. I don't know what kind of marketing Khronos would have to do for retards not to choose whatever Microsoft jams down their throats.

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Wait, so if all I do is watch anime, look at pictures, and listen to music, then Linux is for me?

I can't decide if I would want a cute retro theme or something sleek and modern. The choices are suffocating. ;_;

>>60371675
no os is secure enough to protect a retard that runs the malware that is sent to him by email or ads.

>>60381399
animepedocucks deserve this

>>60381407
CUTE RETRO THEME
and cute anime boys!

>>60371812
Virtuoso IC Design Suite, the pinnacle of IC design software.

In electronics it is actually harder to find software that runs on Windows.

>>60371675
I can handle a PC

Do you retards actually think you can make an invulnerable OS?
It's not Microsofts fault that mouth breathers like you don't update their systems.

>>60371675
I quadruple boot already

wait what happened?

>>60381947
It's not really the fact that Microsoft specifically is bad at making operating systems, that's beside the point. It's the disproportionately large amount of malware for Windows compared to other operating systems.

>>60381969
Massive ransomware outbreak

>>60373730
After effects can't be replaced

>>60382202
https://natron.fr/

>>60371675
Because Comodo's got my back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVIhXwFJXMg

>>60377951
So Windows being at the top with 52.2% means it's almost finished?

Because my computer field / hobby / passion is to optimize, customize Windows and being very good at shortcuts. I have achieved quite a lot over the last couple of years. I can safely say my setup (keybindings, how things are set up etc) is of very high quality, and there is a lot work behind it.

I've used Linux a little bit, many concepts, ideas and design used in Windows are from Linux. A little bit mac too.

I admire Linux, but as an advanced Windows-users, I use the potential of Windows because of its tremendous software-capabillity. And no, I'm not talking about gaming and all that kind of things. But you can say, my keybinding system is somewhat similar.

It's simply not the same with Linux.
Linux works a little bit different.

If you are normal/standard/casual windows users, I recommend Linux. Linux does much more, open source and is more comfy as a programming environment for many developers. Alternative, start to learn how to use Windows better.

If you are a gamer I recommend Windows.

If you are an advanced users of Windows like me, it can be for the best to stick to Windows. For me, I honestly don't have a choice.

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>>60381987
is that why im getting ads on 4chan now? even though i had adblock on?

>>60371675
>leenoox doesn't just work
better stay with windows

>>60373730
what a bunch of shit

>>60371675
Because single - booting is for gheys

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> why haven't you left Windows for Linux yet?

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>>60382885
I mean this sincerely: go fuck yourself. I'm actually angry.

>>60382914
it's because you're using ushit

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>>60383196
Windows is more advance and more productive (in everything but programming) than Linux, prove me wrong

>>60383196
1. It's not a bait. There is no reason for you to be angry.
2. This can be difficult for many users to see, but Windows is capable of many things thanks to third-party software. If someone have optimized it, it's good for him.
3. People have different needs, interests, understanding and all OS have flaws.

>>60383437
Partly right.
The more correct term is user-friendly. Windows is made for end-users. But thanks to IDEs and the popularity, it's normally okay to program on it.

>>60379172
>secure

Do you really think Linux is safe from the CIA/NSA? Using Linux simply gets rid the of the middleman of either Microsoft or Apple.

>>60383583
There were some Linux exploits evident in the Wikileaks files, but not nearly as many as there were for Windows. Shadow Brokers stuff has been largely for Windows.

Linux is more secure than Windows.

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>>60381407
Yeah.

Don't decide. Explore. You'll eventually find sth you like.

I suggest arch for the fastest learning experience.

>>60371675
Because I don't want to keep fighting my pc and having to struggle to make basic shit work. My pc is a tool, it's means to an end, not the other way around. Linux is for neets whose time isn't worth anything.