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Repeating question from previous thread:
Trying to build my very own crappy linux distro. So, I compiled kernel (4.11) and BusyBox, copied all the stuff to disk image, created symlink bin/sh -> /usr/bin/busybox.
After trying to boot it in qemu-x86_64 with "init=/bin/sh" I get this. ext4 is enabled in kernel config and my image is ext4. Where did I fuck up?

>2.write a few simple bash scripts

Yes I know I could write it myself but I thought that somewhere inside those 50k+ packages I would find such basic functionality.

>>60263049
Try 4.10.14 instead

everytime I boot I have to fsck /dev/sda2
what could be the cause of this

>>60263255
Why? I don't think it's a kernel bug.

>>60263264
Is that your root partition? If so, it's supposed to be fsck'd automatically every time you boot, in case you force shutdown your machine last time and the filesystem didn't have time to unmount.

>>60263266
4.11 wasn't working for me. It complained ext4 was an unknown file system despite me having support for it (I used the same .config forever without problems). I then compiled 4.10.14 and it just werked.

>>60263314
Alright, thanks anon, I'll give it a try

>>60263300
I use the shutdown command everytime I shutdown or I use reboot

>>60263328
Right, but the fsck is there just in case you didn't. If you did, it's harmless, it should just say "/dev/sda2 is clean" and keep going. But you should never have to do it manually.

>>60263264
>>60263328
If it doesn't take too long then I would just ignore it as it isn't causing harm. You could try running an fsck from a livecd and see if anything is actually wrong with the filesystem though.

>>60263300
>If so, it's supposed to be fsck'd automatically every time you boot
I thought it's every x boots. My dmesg certainly doesn't have fsck logs every boot.

>>60263351
mmh okay odd
>>60263376
alright I'll try that when I get home thank for the tip

>>60263328
As already mentioned it's done automatically on boot to ensure the file system isn't damaged. If you REALLY want to get rid off it you can add fsck.mode=skip to your kernel parameters. You can either add it to GRUB config (easiest and quickest) or you can exclude fsck when generating the initramfs. Normally should be of no problem but if your drive does become corrupt in some way it might result in data loss so given how rarely you reboot your computer and how quick fsck is I wouldn't recommend removing it. You can use suspend to RAM instead of shutdown when not using your computer so that you don't have to go through the boot process every day. For a distro using systemd (which you most likely have) the command is systemctl suspend.

>>60263049
Did you copy all the necessary shared objects?

>>60263552
Only copied busybox binary to /usr/bin and created symlink to it.

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>60263049
>BusyBox
why would you do this?

>>60263774
Just to build some basic environment for testing before making something serious

>>60263049
what happens when you run sh?

>>60263049
Is BusyBox statically compiled?

>>60263012
blacked

>>60263863
Oy vey, seems like I'm a full retard, forgot to disable dynamic linking in bb config. Thanks for pointing out.

>>60263744
You need to copy the shared objects used by busybox.

ldd busybox

>>60263989
I know, I just thought I had compiled it statically.

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So I am installing Manjaro with full disk encryption, and I have a few inquiries. I have it set up is that I have /boot on a flash drive. Should this be encrypted too? Also I am wondering how encrypting swap works. I set a different passkey for the swap and for the main partition but it seems that either key is accepted. Should I even use swap?

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I'm trying to make a private subnet with a firewall+router on an Ubuntu based server I've got. My current plan is to use UFW firewalling/masquerading traffic and dnsmasq for DHCP and DNS. Any thoughts or better ideas, aside from "use pfSense instead"?

also any tips on killing fruit flies? these fuckers will just not starve off.

>>60264257
>tips on killing fruit flies

Vacuum cleaner. Approach slowly from below. They are hard-wired to evade threats from above, but neglect slow movements straight towards them, when approaching upwards.

No better ideas on the firewall-router side, so just try it out, is all I can suggest.

>>60264065
>Should this be encrypted too?
You won't be able to boot if it is. But grub supports encrypted boot, so you can have everything but bootloader encrypted with grub if you set it up.
>I set a different passkey for the swap and for the main partition but it seems that either key is accepted
You're doing it wrong, read a guide, like the Arch wiki. Ideally, you want encrypted swap to be remade on each boot, as a plain dm-crypt container using /dev/urandom as key. You do NOT want a persistence swap.
>Should I even use swap
If you don't think you'll be suspending to disk, then no, as you can make a swap file of any size later on.

TL;DR: I accidentally disabled all my monitors and now I can't see shit, what do?

So I had a second monitor plugged in, and while using it I disabled the first one. Then I switched off the second monitor, which for some reason disables it. (this seems to be "normal" behaviour, I just forgot about it..)
Replugging the HDMI/DP cables or power cables to the monitors had no effect.

I could ofc just reboot and it'd probably fix it, but I'm trying to avoid that because of some programs I have running.

This is Xubuntu on a desktop with Radeon 270X and the default drivers (not from AMD)

>>60264992
COuld you just restart the X server?

>>60265012
Yeah well... how would I do that. I guess I forgot to mention I'm clueless.

>>60265046
Can you connect by ssh to your computer?

>>60265103
Nope. I'm disabled it one day when my tinfoil hat was itching...

>>60265153
>I'm disabled
looks like I got something right...

>>60265153
So do on virtual console (ctl-alt-f1). DO that shortcut many times to be sure you have switched. After that login and password.
And once logged (blind)

pkill -KILL Xorg

but it will kill all graphical application.

Next time keep your openssh server open.

It's so annoying every fucking cheap VPS seller still pushes openvz. I know why, they can easily overallocate and/or use fake specs but its just really annoying. No one should be forced to use kernels that old.

>>60265218
Hey I can see the terminal just fine. Can I just xrandr -somethingsomething or some shit?

And yeah the SSH business was pretty stupid. I'm slowly learning to not mess with stuff unless I have a very good reason.

>>60265277
Do

DISPLAY=:0

and after that try xrandr

if it's not the good display. Find the pid of one of your graphical process (ps -ef)
and go in /proc/PID (you replace PID with the pid), and check for the value of DISPLAY in the file environ

>>60265277
no wait i just tried xrandr with no arguments and it said "Can't open display".

>>60265244
If you can't afford $5/mo for Digital Ocean you have serious brain problems.

>>60265324
>DISPLAY=:0
>and after that try xrandr
Same result as before. I'll try the rest now.

>>60265380
You export the display? ie export before setting the variable?

When the fuck will we get some distros that ship with wayland?
I don't want to use fedora, as it's shit.

>>60265412
I have no idea what that even means.. I'm feeling quite lost.. maybe I should stop before I mess something up worse...

>>60263049
Out of curiosity: What did you use to compile it? What other software are you including?

>>60265456
did you do?

export DISPLAY=:0

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Can somebody help me? just got through to my first arch install, but the only acccount is root, and when I try to open account settings it just closes the settings window, other settings work just fine, how can I make a new user so I'm not doing everything as root?

>>60265527

man useradd
man passwd

>>60265527
man adduser

>>60265527
>running browser as root
Enjoy your malware. Oh wait, you already installed Arch :^)

>>60265490
I compiled it with a hammer and included some nails.
>>60265502
No.

I feel like I'm at a point where I should look up what this stuff does before typing it in...

>>60265366
I need more than a basic shit server. I need a shit server with some bulk to it. I dont need god tier SLAs (and the cost associated with them) to protect me. I've got a couple cheap lxc and kvm servers and they've all got 98.8-99.9% network uptime. Good enough for me.

>>60265601
>No.
Do it. xrand should work after that.

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I'd like to interject for a moment, in most cases this thing you call GNU/Linux, although the Linux kernel is running on a GNU system is so far from your values of free software and again in most cases they call them selves open source, can we not just call it Linux?

>>60265622
Hey indeed it seems to work. At least it lists the displays and resolutions.

Now how do i see my desktop again...

testing

>>60265712
You have to enable the correct desktop and mode. Example my display is eDP1:

#!/bin/sh

xrandr --output eDP1 --mode 1920x1080

>>60265769
it says "configure crtc 0 failed"

I tried both monitors. (DisplayPort-0 and HDMI-0)

Is Slackware just for aging hackers who don't care about Debian, etc.?

>>60265868
ANd if you go back to your opened Xserver (ctl-alt-f7 or try another number)?

>>60265542
>>60265552
So a new user was added, but when I log into it it directs me back to the choose user screen

>>60265887
Everything goes blank in "f7". Other number give terminals like "f1" did before.

>>60265889
if your user if foo

echo exec xterm >/home/foo/.xsession
chmod 0644 /home/foo/.xsession

and retry

>>60265911
Sorry, I don't know what could fix your problem. It's beyond my skills.

>>60265913
/home/user/.xsession: no such file or directory

>>60265925
No problem, thanks for trying. I already learned some new things so it wasn't all wasted.

How stupid is it that the monitor gets disabled when it's turned off and does not get enabled when it turns on? How does that seem like a good idea... Well I'll just reboot in a moment if nothing comes up...

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>>60265678
The expression “the Linux kernel” can easily be misunderstood as meaning “the kernel of Linux” and implying that Linux must be more than a kernel. You can avoid the possibility of this misunderstanding by saying or writing “the kernel, Linux” or “Linux, the kernel”.

Create the home dir of the user before, and try to log in with the user, it it fails create the xsession

mkdir /home/user

>>60265992
So I rebooted and everything is fine now. I won't be disabling any monitors in a while...

>>60266210
How does it feel to talk with yourself?

>>60265751
>>60266242
stop

>>60266255
for >>60265963
Ho shit, i'm tired

http://aziz.tn/technical-blog/how-to-become-a-free-software-hipster.html

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>>60266424
I loled so hard

>>60265913
>>60266255
>>60266409
I did all three of these and I still can't log in

>>60266518
Is xterm installed? If not install it right now, because that's the fucking ultimate terminal.

>>60266548
It's installed, should I have Ben running these from xterm? Does it matter?

I'm installing Manjaro XFCE, is this a good choice?

>>60266424
>Mohamed
R E M O V E

>>60266581
Try to log in a virtual-console (ctl-alt-f1) and to write startx from there.

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>>60263012
Ok so I just switched to xubuntu. I have some screen tearing even when just on 4chins.
I tried the nvidia made driver and my computer would not boot. at the unlock prompt any characters I typed would just show up on top of the boot screen and nothing worked.

wut do? any good drivers?
I have an NVIDIA GeForce GT 740

>>60266581
>>60266629
Or maybe your user does not have right on its own home folder
Run the following command by replacing user by the user name

chown -R $(id -u user):$(id -g user) /home/user

>>60266640
install compton

>>60266424
Wow Mohamed Aziz, don't flip out

>>60263012
B L A C K E D

>>60266671
thanks, pornhub looks great now

>>60266581
>>60266629
I created another user using the method, worked just fine, might have had something to do with me naming the user "user" thanks for the help guys

>>60266818
happy jerking

>>60266845
You named an user user?

>>60263755

apt-get moo

>>60266860
Yeah, is there something wrong with that? I've done it on all the other distros I've used, didn't think it'd cause problems

>>60266907
I don't think so.

what is the best distro for doing normal things?

>>60266928
ubuntu

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What are some cool USE flags?

>>60264257
if you hang water in a transparent bag, fruit flies don't approach.

don't ask me why.

Do any free distros offer rebootless patching/hotfixes? Only ones I've found are paid products from (Ubuntu/redhat/oracle/suse)

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Couple of questions:

1. Why does my computer only see 53 gb of memory when I have at least 230gb?

2. Why when I change the file name of a program, Linux seems to "forget" that it exists and I have to fucking uninstall it and re install?

>>60267417
>1. Why does my computer only see 53 gb of memory when I have at least 230gb?
partition
>>60267417
>2. Why when I change the file name of a program, Linux seems to "forget" that it exists and I have to fucking uninstall it and re install?
what?

>>60267417
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about for #2.

For #1 it says "/", which means it's not giving you the entire size of your HDD, it's giving you the size of your root partition.
If your root partition was supposed to be 230 but is somehow only 53 then that shouldn't be happening. Or maybe you made a mistake when partitioning your disk?

>>60267306
USE="my DICK"

>>60267417
>>60267539
Adding to what I wrote, if you have a separate partition for /home or something then I wouldn't worry about it.

A lot of people say 30-50gb for your root partition is enough and that you can just assign the rest to /home or something.

>>60267306
USE="just-fuck-my-shit"
disabled by default

>>60263012
I'm trying to copy/paste from one file to another using vim and the methods outlined in the vim wiki don't work.
Say I try ' gg"+yG ', pressing g twice in normal mode just goes to the top of the file and clears the "input buffer" (not sure the proper name)
And having 'set clipboard=unnamed' in ~/.vimrc doesn't work either

>>60267677
Any advice on how to do this properly would be much appreciated

>>60267677
post output of

vim --version | grep clip

What's the fastest booting distro for a server?

>>60267907
Unironically Gentoo

sh -c "sh -c \"sh -c \\\"sh -c \\\\\\\"sh -c \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"echo \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"botnet\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\"\""

Ok so basically, I want to "try" GNU+Linux, I have a server so I know some.. But all these distros! Basically 50% are copies of Ubuntu...
Would it viable to download the last kernel, install x, install some DE, and then get all software by compiling source... How much is this time consuming?

>>60268153
>trying to escape the botnet

Have another challenge:

Try to "echo" the string "-n".

>>60268188
Go with ubunut and lurk. When you're experienced enough you'll know what distro is the best for your special snowflake needs, until then it doesn't matter to use a special snowflake distro.

I need a patch for my spes 350n jacket - give me weaponized autism or Stallman face or some suggestions please. It's currently all black and I'm some no name that needs an identifier.

>>60268228
>ubuntu
I'd rather recommend Debian. Literally the same thing without Canonical dick.

>>60267735
-clipboard +job +path_extra +user_commands
+eval +mouse_dec +statusline -xterm_clipboard

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>>60266868

>>60263012
I want to install that : https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kcm-wacomtablet-frameworks-git/
can someone tell me what the fuck i am supposed to google to get a tutorial on how to install this, please? (or tell me right here but I assume it takes more than one or two commands).

>>60268261
You have no clipboard support. Install vim-gnome.

>>60265419
What do you have against fedora?

>>60268425
When I'm too euphoric to use Ubuntu, I use Fedora.

>>60268398
I left my PC for a bit and suddenly this works. I'm probably just retarded and I just don't know it yet
>>60268412
Thanks. Pretty stupid of me not to read the entire wiki page.

>>60263755
screenfetch

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what is the best terminal browser?

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>>60268230

>>60268685
>i'd like
>not i'd just like

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I installed Krita from the repositories. Why it appears multiple times when I look at
open with > other application

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a must read book for people who want to get into linux

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Is there something wrong with this device from this screen shot? It's a TBS6221 TV tuner card and as far as I know it's supported under Linux. I've installed the correct drivers but it just will not recognise it.

Rate my PS1.

PS1='$(awk "/ma/{print\"\[\x1b[31m\]\"\"`tr '\!-~' 'P-~\!-O'<<<D9:E`\"\$2\"\[\x1b[m\]\";exit}" /etc/aliases)$ '

Got i3 for the first time, having a blast, but I get screen tearing problems and for some reason compton isnt fixing them, googled around tried some fixes and none worked. Anyone else experienced this? I'm using a shitty computer I use mostly for work with an hdgraphics integrated card if this has anything to do with it.

>>60269236
>google
https://searx.me/
>compton
compton --backend glx --paint-on-overlay --vsync opengl-swc

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>using Arch for the first time

I have quite underestimated the amount of time this takes.

For distros like Arch or Void, what kind of maintenance are you expected to do on a regular basis? Stuff like removing orphans and things like that.

>>60263012
did they fug

How do I keep my mpv window over every other window?
Ex: I have a fullscreen window of my favorite text editor but I want a window of mpv to alway be open in the top left side or wherever i place it.
Is there some picture in picture shit for linux to achieve this?

I love the GPL 2bh family

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>>60267536
>>60267539
>>60267578

So in this screenshot, if I rename IntelliJ folder to something like "IJ" or whatever I can no longer find it in my list of applications

>>60269646
shift+t

>>60269937
GPLv3+ is best GPL.

>>60270029
What "list of applications" are you talking about?

>>60269646
GNU/Linux*

cli: mpv --ontop=yes file
runtime: hit T
config: ontop=yes

>>60270141
>windows key
>search apps for IntelliJ
>nothing found

Just to reiterate this is when you change the name of the file. I'm on fedora 25 btw

>>60270336
You know GNU/Linux environments are extremely diverse right?
There's probably hundreds of different launcher programs, and just as many people who use no launchers at all.

The issue you're having is not a Linux specific issue, it is specific to whatever launcher program you're running.

The best way to ensure your programs are found on your machine is to make sure they are at a location in your $PATH variable. There are several ways you can achieve that.
For one you can modify $PATH to include the location of your program. Or you can move your program into a directory already specified in $PATH.

Beyond that I think some launchers might also locate programs based on ".desktop" files (basically like shortcuts that point to your program) and if you just rename the directory being pointed to by a .desktop file then it won't be able to find it.

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Can anyone recommend me a light linux distro that would fair well in virtualbox?

I want to make an app I created in NWJS cross platform and need a testing environment that doesn't lag the heck out.

Thank you for your kind response in advance.

I will literally install anything the first person recommends, except gentoo or ubuntu.

>>60270667
no

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>>60270679
VOID
VOID
VOID
VOID
VOID

>>60270679
Debian

>>60270667
>>60270679
You could try debian or maybe xubuntu. Just avoid gnome and kde as they are too heavy for vm use.

>>60270754
This was my issue. I installed Ubuntu in a VM and it was so laggy it infuriated me and I cut myself to linkin park for a few hours. I just didn't know what went wrong, everything was unresponsive. Then I tried puppy linux and realized I had no idea what I was doing.

>>60270667
fuck off

>>60270667
Install RHEL.

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>>60270869
>RHEL
>Red Hat® Enterprise Linux® delivers military-grade security, 99.999% uptime, support for business-critical workloads, and so much more.
MILITARY GRADE SECURITY!
That is quite the bargain I have to admit. But is it light weight?

I'm on the fence between xbuntu, debian and rhel now...

>>60270869
RHEGL*

>>60270935
>or as i've taken to calling it ,recently, 'regal'

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I was here a few days ago asking how to make my laptop pipe sound over HDMI from KMix (I use XMonad).

I figured it out. KMix makes you go to "playback streams", right-click on the relevant stream, and click "hdmi" under "move".

Just for anyone else who likes tiling WMs.

>>60270896
Use CentOS instead of RHEL, it's the same thing. Debian is good too. I don't recommend any Ubuntu flavor as the quality of their packages has declined over the last few years.

>>60271643
Did you even read the original question?

>>60270935
>>60271310
RHEL is a BRAND NAME

>>60271957
so is linux

>>60271957
why did you reply to me? you could have spent that time ending your life.

>>60271619

Kmix has nothing to do with a window manager type, as in tiling window manager.

>he thinks all "standalone" window managers are tiling window managers

I have lines like this:

a     b     c     d
1.0   2.4   6.4   9.0
6.0   2.1   5.2   2.0
1.0   4.4   6.1   1.0

I want to grep/awk/sed only the numbers of field c, e.g.

6.4
5.2
6.1

What do? I'd use awk '{print $3}', the problem is, the lines arent always in order a b c d, so when the order is b a d c, I'd get the wrong field.

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>>60272140
It does not, but it was what I was using in the absence of a toolbar with a GUI to change output device.

The headline is "Local Man Uses Xmonad, Can Watch TV From Laptop Hassle-Free Again" as opposed to "Local Man Can Use KMix".

I'm looking to take a baby step to Linux as a daily driver. Currently using a Mac laptop so I'm very used to the "Everything just working" from a laptop perspective. I frequently dock my machine and use it as a desktop, and in fact only rarely using the actual laptop itself. In the past I have had issues with Linux display managers (Unity specifically) not being very great about switching between an external monitor and a laptop with a different PPI.

I am willing to buy a new machine if it makes it easier / less likely to have issues. I have been looking at System 76 as well as Dell XPS.

Any advice?

>>60272194

from sys import argv

filename = open(argv[1], "r")
first_line = filename.readline()
column = first_line.split().index("c")
for line in filename:
    print(line.split()[column])

>>60272320
>>60272194

Use like "script.py your_file".

>>60263012
>BusyBox
have an x220 with Mint + Windows 10 right now. Wondering if I should install Arch, Gentoo, or a BSD on it next. Any recommendations? I'm a jr sys admin btw so I want my thinkpad to be stable too.

>>60266306
I only tested once, I couldn't post my "open source" pasta.

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I can't boot into my system.
I was trying to change my backlight; since XBacklight didn't work I tried editing my xorg.conf. It wasn't in etc/x11 so I just made one using touch and typed in pic related.
This did not work so next I tried manually editing the brightness file. Using tee normally, I was denied; however I was able to use echo + tee to successfully change the value. At this point, the backlight changed.
However, upon rebooting, after getting past grub, my laptop displays
>Starting version 232
>AntergosRoot: clean, <number> files, <number>/<number> blocks.
This is normal. After this though the screen shuts off for a second, then turns back on with the altered brightness, and is stuck on the previously mentioned screen.
Any help is much appreciated.

>>60272466

Switch to a tty and remove your Xorg config file.

>Antergos
Then kill yourself for being an idiot and poser.

>>60272194
huh?

$ cat anon.txt 
a     b     c     d
1.0   2.4   6.4   9.0
6.0   2.1   5.2   2.0
1.0   4.4   6.1   1.0
$ awk '{print $3;}' anon.txt 
c
6.4
5.2
6.1

Whats a good DE intependent program for setting up hotkeys?

>>60264892
Alright, thank you. It took a while but I am pretty sure I got it figured out. Since I am doing this stuff at the command line I decided to use plain Arch. Although is encrypting this way any different than encrypting with the distro's installer (in Manjaro's case Calamares)? Other than knowing what exactly I am doing and having those options at the command line, is the end result, for the most part, same?

>>60272533
There's something like "bindkeys" I think. Not sure if that's it though.

>>60272431
English.
Why did you delete your post?

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Are the security benefits offered by Hardened Gentoo enough to outdo the relative convenience offered by Arch Linux?

For that matter, do I need to manually configure SELinux on both of them?

>>60272533
>>60272589
xbindkeys

>>60272516
Thank you very much, this fixed it.
Serious question, what's wrong with Antergos? I wanted to try arch but it's my first time using Linux so I ended up chosing between Antergos and Manjaro; the decision was mostly arbitrary.

please rec me a gui for use on a 42" tv.

i have debian on an hp i3 laptop with a brokken screen

>>60265871
I think you really sort of own and control the system with Slackware. SlackBuilds are a great way to do things. Slack could be a top-tier ricerfaggot distro but the nature of it sort of inhibits that. So yes, it is for aging hackers. But you can install it on probably any computer made in the last 20 years and it will run fine. Also AlienBOB's liveslak and stuff he does are really cool.

>>60272669
Me again, Sorry for my harsh words, Theres nothing wrong with Antergos and please don't kill youself. Have fun!

cd code
cd ..

>>60272978
Someone please post the picture so I can have it forever

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>>60273036

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>just installed Arch in a VM
>finish base and everything
>shutdown
>go to settings to remove ISO
>removed the virtual harddrive by accident

>>60273173

15 minutes down the drain.

>>60273173
>in a VM
pussy

>>60273185
Yeah about that much. It killed my motivation though. Fuck it. I'll do it tomorrow.

>>60273194
I'm running Arch on the metal too. It's a fairly recent install and I like to use a VM when doing anything that requires me to reveal my identity. I was just getting around to doing it.

>>60273173
You can just put it back though???

>>60263755
Pipe the results of ls into grep for fast checking for files

>>60273264
w-wut?

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>>60273127
>crazy_strings.rb

reasons to install gentoo:

reasons to use computer:

>>60273366
Porn, GNU & Linux

>>60273249
idk maybe I could have, too bad I already rm -rfed the whole deal

>>60266928
ubuntu fedora or arch

>>60273465
What's the difference?

>>60268295
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository

read this

or install an aur helper

or install another os : ^ )

>>60269507
pacman -Syu

packages breaking all the time is a meme

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>>60273524
>fedora

>>60265419
arch + gnome

>>60273537
>9 hours later
>>60273555
>12 hours later

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Should I just give in to the systemd?

>>60273571
yes

>>60273571
Yeah. There's nothing wrong with it. Detractors are mostly too stupid to understand that it actually makes things more simple. Besides that 'systemd' isn't just an init and it never claimed to be. It's a suite of tools. 69 individual binaries last time I checked.

>>60273683
In the beginning systemd was just an init system.
This is why it was supported so rapidly.

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Anyone else having problems with ksysguard? Looks like I'm having an old problem with old solutions that don't apply.

>>60273741
Why do you have 2 of them open?

>>60273774
Left to show the default tab, right to show that manually added sensors work.

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>>60273730
-not systemd-
>sysvinit, start-stop-daemon, inetd, cron, dbus, and a big mess of other stuff thrown together all implementing their own schemes to do things

-systemd-
>code paths for everything is shared
>less code
>fewer places for mistakes
>less memory
>less cache pressure

If you had to buy an enterprise linux for use in the workplace, which would you get? RedHat? SuSE? Oracle? Ubuntu?

>>60274166
Buy? You know that you can use RedHat for free right? Anyways, I'd go for Ubuntu.

t. Arch user

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Eh? Why can't it execute /usr/bin/bash? ldd says it requires ncurses, libc and libdl.

>>60274272
Are the path correct?

>>60274280
Yeah
/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin
All libs seem to be present

>>60274303
I am talking about the lib path.
could you ldd bash and check that each lib is at the correct place

>>60274209

I know this isn't a good place for people with corporate experience, but a lot of places are risk adverse and require support from someone like RedHat, even if it is purely as an ass covering exercise.

>>60274357
As I've said, all libs are present.
/usr/lib/libc.so
/usr/lib/libncursesw.so.6.0
/usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
/usr/lib/libdl-2.25.90.so

>>60274386
>/usr/lib/libncursesw.so.6.0
And it's not in /usr/lib but in /lib
look at the picture >>60274272

>>60274386

what doe your conf file look like

cat /etc/ld.so.conf
# ld.so.conf autogenerated by env-update; make all changes to
# contents of /etc/env.d directory
/lib64
/usr/lib64
/usr/local/lib64
/lib32
/usr/lib32
/usr/local/lib32
/lib
/usr/lib
/usr/local/lib
include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf
/usr/lib64/qt4

>>60274401
/lib is symlink to /usr/lib in my system

>>60274414
I don't have such file

>>60274427
you need one

>>60273275

ls | grep -i mp3

Also to search a file quickly and efficiently:

cat file.txt | grep -i stuff

Also a neat trick to iterate over files securely:

for i in `ls`; do something; done

>>60274437
Alright, so I just put /usr/lib and /lib there?

>>60273562

>not reading the whole thread
>missing out on things

Let me guess, you only bother posting in threads that aren't older than 2 minutes.

>>60274450
yes

>>60274455
Weird, even with ld.so.conf "no such file" error appears.

>>60274475
ldconfig -v
read the output for any errors

>have an exfat partition, all's good
>one day it decides to fucking die
>recover what i can, reformat
>call it Storage, just as last time
>automount now irregularly mounts it to either Storage or Storage1
how do i fix this? it appears as there were some records about the last partition from last time and it solves conflicts like this

>>60274508
I'm running it in qemu (with glibc built from sources), but seems like paths are broken in my build.

ldconfig: Warning: ignoring configuration file that cannot be opened: (path in host filesystem instead of guest): No such file or directory
...

>>60274551
Now I'm trying to rebuild glibc with --exec-prefix=/
Hope that'll work.

>>60274551
did you copy a static qemu build to the device?
I'm at a loss though

>>60274595
Well, that didn't work (obviously). How do I change these paths (ldconfig) when building glibc?

>>60274635
I just fucked up paths so ldconfig in my guest system points to host filesystem files that don't exist.

>>60274548
check fstab

>>60274671
fstab seems fine so i dont know

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
# / was on /dev/sdb2 during installation
UUID=06b75ef7-e437-4c14-8974-adc0e5ea5c9d /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
# swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
UUID=87a46eba-651d-4d37-9a84-2f2c03f4bbd6 none            swap    sw              0       0
/dev/disk/by-uuid/206A-D1E7 /media/anon/Storage auto nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 0

>>60274843
UID in fstab
absolutely-disgusting.webm

>>60274880
wat

you prefer the /dev/sdX style? What if you swap a HDD, insert a new one, or remove one and the symbolic links point to different devices?

>>60274929
I use label.

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Should I install Arch or Fedora?

I can't decite. I broke my arch yesterday (libGL.so.1 disappeared and even full reinstall of all packages didn't help and I can't run almost any software now, I don't fully blame arch because I have been fucking with configuration lately and used a lot of pacman -Sy).

I've used both and like both. Arch has AUR and bleeding edge packages but every time I install something I have to do a full Syu upgrade (or risk breaking my shit with Sy) which is almost always over 150MB, this wouldn't be a problem normally but I'm often on a slow wi-fi connection in uni and on trains.

>>60275197
Arch user here. The fact that Fedoras bin of Chromium is compiled without support for html5 h265 videos is the only reason I won't switch.

>>60275197
>libGL.so.1 disappeared
Reinstall mesa.

>>60275256
Dude I've been fucking with it for 3 hours and tried almost everything I could think of. I literally reinstalled all packages on the system. Shit's fucked.

>>60275252
So you would switch if it wasn't for that one thing? Why?

>>60275373
Well, mesa is the package that provides libGL.

When are we going to get a better microkernel? Unless it gets basically completely rewritten, Hurd is already. It's way too coupled to Mach to be particularly performant (replacing Mach would effectively require rewriting Hurd), and both Mach and Hurd have a whole lot of fundamental conceptual limitations that are rather unnecessary and cumbersome.

>>60275443
Microkernels are shit, though.

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>>60275373
>So you would switch if it wasn't for that one thing?
Yes

>Why?
Because I use chromium and watch a lot of live streams with it and I'm not going to use another browser or mpv to do what I do. I like Fedora and what it's doing in general but SELinux is the biggest draw. On Arch It's a big unsupported mess from the AUR. I did find out that United RPMs has Chromium and it's one of their most popular packages and it's touted on the website for html5 support so I might switch when I get a new HDD.

>>60275513
microkernels aren't objectively bad. There are reasons to use them, and different reasons to use monolithic. Monolithic will always perform better, but microkernels are much more secure and stable.

>>60275550
>SELinux is the biggest draw
just firejail literally everything

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People keep saying "just install Ubuntu as babby's first GNU/Linux. But don't because Amazon"

I'm confus

>>60275607
Perhaps this coloring book will help you learn more about it

https://people.redhat.com/duffy/selinux/selinux-coloring-book_A4-Stapled.pdf

>>60275614
Ubuntu contains Amazon bloatware that used to spy on you, but doesn't any more. No reason to use Ubuntu instead of Debian anyway. It's just a shitty derivative of Debian that is slightly easier to install, because it includes proprietary firmware. Just grab the Debian firmware netinstall iso, and then it's just as easy to install as Ubuntu. The only thing to keep in mind is you need to explicitly enable proprietary repos for software like steam and Nvidia drivers etc once you finish installing, should you want to get abused by proprietary software developers.

>>60275722
>No reason to use Ubuntu instead of Debian anyway. It's just a shitty derivative of Debian
Yeah there is. Debian fucks up packages with useless patches and Ubuntu improves them with some further patching.

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What are some cool things that you wish you knew earlier?

I've been using linux for 6 years and have been using Arch for a couple and I just found out about pkill. I've been doing it like this

[user@host ~]$ pidof xfce4-clipman 
14116
[user@host ~]$ kill 14116

this whole time.

>>60276364
I use killall

Performance differences between Hyper V and Virtual box.?

>>60276446
>Hyper V
Nobody here has ever used this

Is there anything better than vnc to work on my xorg desktop from windows?

I have lubuntu on my netbook and i'd like to upgrade to 17.10, if I do that will I lose everything? or can you upgrade and keep your files?

>>60276446
vbox is for convenience hyperv is for performance

can't tell you the exact difference, but i think hyperv is made for dedicated systems that run a number of virtual machines

>>60276894
>hypverv
You mean KMS

Hey, I'd like to install some headless distro (without X, only terminal) for learning and development purposes. I looked at minimal ubuntu but it doesn't support UEFI and I'd like to start with something easier than arch.
Suggestions?

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>>60277083
Debian??

>>60277214
Is there a minimal version of Debian out there?

>>60277214
The default is minimal. Grab a net install ISO, boot it up and de-select the crap you don't want when installing it. It has a menu for installing Xorg and a DE, just untick them all if you only want a terminal.

>>60277223
oopsies
this one for you: >>60277243

>>60277243
Does it work with UEFI?

>>60277259
Yes.
You can probably work most of these things out yourself with a bit of looking.
https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI

>>60277272
>Yes.
Really?
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2017/04/msg00013.html

>>60277317
did you even read this page? it only talks about secure boot, not UEFI.

>>60270747
what did she mean by this

how powerful laptop should I buy for linux?

>>60277794
literally anything will do. linux has very small minimum requirements, just install something light like Puppy or Lubuntu.

>>60277794
unless you're gonna be using some resource hogging program then anything with a c2d and 4gigs of ram should be plenty beefy for your needs and cost you under a hundred bucks

>>60277815
>>60277826
CPU: Intel Celeron N3060
RAM: 8gigs

This should be enough?

>>60277911
yep

>>60277911
more than enough for normal daily usage.

>>60263755
!136

>>60274438
ls *.mp3

>>60278265
oh man, i thought that was a bait post!

>

ls | grep -i mp3

not

ls *.mp3

>

cat file.txt | grep -i stuff

not

grep -i stuff < file.txt

>

for i in `ls`; do something; done

for i in * ; do something "$i"; done

and fucking backticks

>>60276882

Yes, you can upgrade and keep your files.

>>60273571
Absolutely not. OpenRC is much simpler and easier anyway.

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>>60276364
Look into pkill.

>What are some cool things that you wish you knew earlier?

ps -C
grep -P
less -p
xargs -P
ffplay -hide_banner

>>60276364
info

>>60277794
It's GNU/Linux, not NT. Any computer will be OK.

>>60277794
linux runs on every toaster
in fact, it even runs on smart coffee machines

Please contribute to
http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?group=gnubg&func=browse&set=open&msort=0&advsrch=0&morder=bug_id%3C&offset=0#results

GNUBG is a backgammon program with a GNU license. I don't mind that the site looks shit, but it would be good if the program worked.

i have an eeepc 2G surf, can someone clarify if this is how tiny core works?

i install tinycore to eeepc internal SSD, then auto mount an SD card to /home or wherever, where i put everything beyond the basic install? what if i install apps on the tinycore partition, will they be faster at the cost of loonger boot?

I bet this question is asked A LOT but what is a good, semi up-to-date distribution for developers? I want something that stays out of the way and lets me focus on my thing. Updates should not break the system.

Tumbleweed is out of question because I need Nvidia drivers for game development. Fedora never works out-of-the-box, I suspect Wayland fucks my shit up. Ubuntu's PPA hell and major upgrades scare me. Debian Stretch is a tad bit too outdated and the repository does not have everything I need.

I'm currently developing with Python, Lua, Java but I have upcoming courses for Haskell and C++. I don't think the programming language matters much for my distribution choice though.

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>60279222
install ubunut

>>60279222
ubanto

>>60279222
did you consider a BSD?

>>60279354
Yes. How well does BSD stay out of my way? How's the state of Nvidia drivers? Will I have any trouble installing the required libraries for programming?

So, last night I was installing Arch on my laptop. The root partition is ext4, but I decided to disable journaling because SSD.

Turns out, "tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/sda1" can only be run in an emtpy directory. Otherwise it throws up an error saying something like "invalid partition '/dev/sda1' on device 'install.txt'"

Anybody know why? Also I was using install media from 2013 if that makes a difference.

>>60279409
BSD is great for gaming.

>>60279438
I know this is sarcasm but I don't care about gaming. I just need the Nvidia drivers for game development. I tried with Nouveau but my game lagged like shit and had all kinds of artifacts.

>>60279409
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by stay out of the way, but installing & updating software through ports is very easy, and has a script called portmaster for easily updating everything through source. not entirely sure on the card drivers however, do look up if your card is supported by the driver port. the best way to see if it's suitable for you is to give it a go.

>>60279222
Honestly it's not simple. Manjaro? I heard they keep packages on hold for some time but dunno, downstream of arch and the other memes about it. Void? There should be everything afaik. Debian testing? Security issues might be a problem, as they don't have a fixed policy about it as of now and Sid might be too quick, but about performances it should be at the top between every other distro. Arch if you don't have many packages and don't use AUR libs doesn't break too easily, but hard to suggest it for systems where stability is a priority.

>>60277815
Don't tell people to install Puppy for their first distro.

>>60279626

I'm trying to avoid Manjaro. Something about the developers and the community puts me off.

Used Debian Testing for a while and changed to Void (which I'm currently on). These two have been the closest to what I'm looking for but I'm constantly wondering if there's something more suitable. I ran Arch for a while but software broke a bit, which was annoying.

So, should I use nextcloud or owncloud on my server? What is the difference between these 2? And is there any other options to use as cloud storage/media playback?

>>60279796
>I'm trying to avoid Manjaro. Something about the developers and the community puts me off.
could you elaborate?

>>60279796
seriously, give one of the BSDs a try. I've personally had nothing but good experiences with DragonFly.

>>60279837
nigga you serious?
"just back off the clock to access our servers lol"

>>60279796
Yeah, manjaro smells like mint to me, security wise especially. Dunno if there's more, Void is probably the closest one to the BSDs and I'm doing nice with it.

>>60279837
>ssl certs
>downstream patches and packages
Not certainly the best available option, just go with arch at that point.

>>60279850
25k packages, live USB, most DEs available. Holy shit I will give this dragonfly thingy a go.

New thread: >>60279918

>>60279416

>I decided to disable journaling because SSD
Why?

>>60279416

>>install media from 2013
You're an idiot, it does make a huge difference.

>>60279477
He's referring to the fact that Nintendo and Sony are cucking BSD because their license allows it. BSD really is great for gaming.

Any quide how I make letsencrypt automatically renew?

Trying to get a polybar working alongside my i3-gaps install, but I'm having a problem and that is the fact tiled windows are covering the bar, do I just make the gaps bigger to avoid this hidding or is there an "official" way to have i3 recognize polybar and not cover it with windows?

>>60281865
I'm using it with i3 right now, what's the issue? You set wm-restack to i3?

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>>60281902
>wm-restack to restack

Yup, yeah, got it straight off someone else's dotfiles to do some tweaking, but it's covered by the windows I have open. Tried searching but nothing really came up

Might be because it has an Y offset?

>>60281945
Hm, yes, unless there was a parameter to keep the bar always on top it should be the problem.. never had this issue so I'm not sure. Try removing it, reloading and see if tiling the windows they overlap it

>>60279256
Xubuntu

>>60282002
Apparently it was an error with the specific polybar config I was using, tried the example after a restart and it worked. Thanks for the help my dude.

>>60282106
No problem my page 10 friendo