/wt/ watch thread

>>60260812
wtf is that?

>>60260817
For many years dominos pizza had an internal policy of awarding a rolex to office staff who had either been there 25 years or had completed a certain amount of deals. I forget which.
Either way, it's an award.

You see them for sale. Don't know who buys them.

>>60260817
http://www.highsnobiety.com/2016/11/03/dominos-rolex/

>>60260817
dominos air king senpai

>>60260817
a dominos rolex of course, as a reward for managing staff
the more recent one have the logo on the strap.
more companies have done thazt as well.

>>60260840
>>60260843
>>60260844
>>60260852

I mean, that's a great reward. But who would actually wear that with the dominoes logo on it?

>>60260871
people who earned it

>>60260871
>But who would actually wear that with the dominoes logo on it?
Someone who worked hard to get the award I guess.
They litter the net, and are (or should be) cheaper than an unmarked dial because, like I said, who would want to buy one of these 2nd hand? On the stores I look at, these things sit there for years and years in inventory, same with those gulf arab crest rolexes.

>>60260910
I just looked on ebay and they only have the Domino's logo on the bracelet and case back. Are those fake?

>tfw only way to afford a rolex

>>60260960
The article anon linked shows that they abandoned the dial decal for bracelet icons. Dunno about casebacks.

>>60260965
2016 Datejust 36mm so it has the 3135 movement.

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I am waiting for this to come out. I like the look of it, and unlike some of the other prospex divers it isnt too big.

>>60260871

I would unironically buy it, put it on a NATO and wear it ironically.

>>60261234
>le ironically being unironically ironic
gb2leddit /r/watches land of nomos and remember to
~W E A R I T I N G O O D H E A L T H~

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I appreciate the anon who was randomly posting nice pictures of watches in the last thread.

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>>60261272

>Existing within a single layer of irony

>>60260812
Daily reminder that mechanical watches are just jewelry for trannies. These watches can't keep proper time, have abysmal power reserve and might break if you clap too hard. And don't forget the necessary 'servicing' to keep them fuckers spinning.

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Do pahtek have the best ads?
>beautiful parents
>photogenic future-model kids
>pulling heartstrings for that "muh heirloom" spiel

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>>60261379
Nothing about the technical achievements or accuracy, just fluff.

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http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/prospex/sea/giugiaro

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>>60261399

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>>60261419
I must admit I admire whoever came up with is ad campaign of theirs. It must have been super effective.
Too bad the watches are now riddled with technical and quality issues lol.

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>>60261450
Historical "shitter".

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>>60261469
>male or female

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>>60261536

>>60261410
But why?

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>>60261546

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>>60261201
Torn between that and the black transocean.

>>60261546
is this real

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>>60261379
Nope

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>>60261399

>>60261721
yes

Why do normalfags love Daniel Wellington watches so much? Literally the apple of watches

>>60261739
>Literally the apple of watches
that would be the apple watch

>>60261739
marketing

>>60261728
LOL
You would probably miss the meeting because the mechshit failed to keep proper time or lost power because to forgot to wear it for a day.

>>60261450
I personally hate it.
>durr hurr you never own what you bought

>>60261700
love that desu

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>>60261957
Had it on the wrist at a local store, I really love the proportions of the bracelet.

Though I really hope Seiko releases a rubber strap or something.
Or someone figures out a way to use nato straps.

>>60261739

Some people like things some of us don't like

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-Patek-Philippe-Geneve-Steel-Stainless-Menss-/122480503337?hash=item1c84682a29:g:JBkAAOSwrhBZDEGC&vxp=mtr

>>60262176
>buy it
>get it checked
>paypal dispute
>keep the fake and get your money back
>strip the fake and learn horology

>>60262176
>Car & Truck Parts>Transmission & Drivetrain>Differentials & Parts

>>60262235
That actually sounds like a reasonable idea.

>>60260812
>all i wanted was a rollie rollie with a dab of ranch

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Where do I buy a thick 2-piece nylon watch strap in Europe that isn't flimsy shit?
Something like this guy has on the top right watch.

>>60262406
Just assuming that is Nylon.
Feel free to correct me.

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my daily work watch
I use the chronograph to time how long i take a dump for at the office. I try to finish before the 5 min mark. anything over 5 mins people start to get suspicious and know you are taking a dump.

anyway, all of my watches are timex. I love timex. Eventually I want to get a nicer more expensive watch, but for now my small timex collection are my dependable buddies.

>>60262419
you should get a vintage mechanical timex

>>60262419

>he cares about what people would think if he poops

anon, plz

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>>60262419
>people start to get suspicious and know you are taking a dump.

>>60262419
I have a cheap timex expedition, picked it up for 50€. Love the look of it. The only thing that bothers me is that the seconds pointer is abit off.

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>>60262440
any recommendations?
i'v never seen mechanical timex when I shop around.

heres my most expensive timex. I really like how it looks.

>>60262509
Yes I have experience this as well in a couple of my timex. My autism goes off the charts I wish i can open it up and fix it but I know i'll end up ruining it.

>>60262525
they don't make any mechanical ones anymore. an anon here has an old camper.

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1/8 speed video of the rattrapante action

>>60262588
sick

>>60262588
Very cool, Anon.

>>60262406
Watch Band Center has a big selection and is in Germany. Pay attention especially for the EULIT canvas straps.

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>>60262419
Everybody poops, didn't you learn that in kindergarten?

>>60262667
Can't find any canvas straps by Eulit for 18mm lugs.
Only perlon and leather stuff.
Thanks anyway!

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>>60262919
Uh..

http://www.watch-band-center.com/watchstrap-p8416h308s488-Watch-strap-18mm-bla.html

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>>60262919
>>60262975
http://www.watch-band-center.com/watchstrap-p28407h308s488-Watch-strap-Tijuana-.html

>>60260871
>I mean, that's a great reward. But who would actually wear that with the dominoes logo on it?

As other anon said, people who earned it.

But even I would wear one as I don't think there's any "shame" in having a Domino's logo on the watch considering it's a factory Rolex dial, and I think it would be a fun conversation piece.

Yeah it's a little tacky but I view it more on the side of interesting and unique.

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>>60261524
>tfw no $210 sub

>>60262975
>>60262989
Forgot to mention I want a light grey one like in the original picture I posted.

>>60263205
>tfw no $1 pocket watch
>>60261469

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>>60263234
http://www.watch-band-center.com/watchstrap-p24312h308s488-Watch-strap-Saarburg.html

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>>60260812

>>60263378
What kind of reward is that?
>Hey you made $50,000 in sales in one week so we got you a shitter

>>60263459
Kek

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>>60263378

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Thinking of buying me a watch to celebrate being debt free. Thinking of either Kobold or Niall. Yeah off brands but I like them. Any thoughts?

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>>60263546

>>60261735
No wonder so many tumblr-tier faggots at /fa/ love them. Then again, /fa/ is a tumblr colony and has the highest concentration of women than any other board on this site. Women are worse shitposters than phoneposters (they might just be the same).

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>>60263536

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>>60263546
even bvlgari is better than this shit

>>60261546
oh shit I had this one~15years ago

>>60261379
>pathek
kys

>>60263602
>Maкдoнaлдc
ммммм

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>>60263610

Ah ok. So you don't know where Nialls are made. How about this one?

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>>60263546
>>60263684

>>60263684
"Made in USA" "Swiss movement" aka parts made in china and one screw added in the USA

Go ahead, it's not my money.

>>60263700

Here I was looking for someone who actually has experience with watches and instead it's just larping faggots pretending to own a Rolex collection.

Fine, I'll spend $1800.- on hookers or a new receiver.

>60263885
u

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>>60263546

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>>60263684

>>60263004
The watches were awarded to general managers if their stores mainained very high sales and 5 star inspection rating for 3 months straight. I forget the dollar amount, it was high but obtainable.higher volume store managers got theirs if they really put their mind to in, lower volume stores had a tough time with it.

>>60260871
Nobody really wore them in public, they are tacky. But corporate level management wore them when they visited stores and performed the inspections. They are also worn at some business functions. Its a status symbol.

t. Ex lower management dominosfag

>>60264140
>loseless compression on an already heavily compressed format
I really want to enjoy that picture.

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well which should i buy?

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>>60264265

> not spending $8,000.- on a timepiece.

GTFO pleb

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>>60264265
5

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I'm going on a cross continent trip for a couple of months and will be taking my old dw5600e with me, but I'll be leaving the other dw5600e that I recently bought, home. If I wanted to make sure the battery wont leak while its in my drawer for two months, can i simply take out the battery and leave it unpowered? Nothing is going to happen, right?

>>60264312
why would i spend an entire months salary on a watch?

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>>60264265
3, but go to EBay where it's $325.

>>60264378
Dude, the battery won't leak. It doesn't care that it's in a drawer. To the battery, it's the same as being on your wrist. You'll be fine.

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>>60264265
Option 6

>>60264405
a watch is a companion that travels with you through life, you should buy something with quality you can wear with pride.

>>60264518
your pants are a companion that travel with you through life
your car is a companion that travels with you through life
your phone is a companion that travels with you through life

i'd prefer to retire 10 years earlier than blow all my money on vapid shit.

Just a reminder that Buzz Aldrin is still connected to Omega
https://www.fratellowatches.com/weekend-read-speedmaster-event-london-with-buzz-aldrin/
Yet Omega is incapable of making that Mars watch

>>60264544
no you won't have any of those things for life, maybe a car if you keep it parked in a garage.

>>60261201
That is one of the less ugly divers I have seen,
Still: no crown guard.

Also: why on earth is the lume on the seconds hand on the opposite side??

>>60261399
>just fluff
Pathos tends to win over logos.
>>60261450
>Too bad the watches are now riddled with technical and quality issues
What??

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>>60264600
That's common; the pointing hand of the second hand is often too skinny (for precision purposes) for any good lume, and if you're in the dark you typically won't be reading time to the second anyways, since in the second indices aren't lumed.

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>>60264661
though by no means universal

>>60263546
>Kobold
lmao surprised they're still standing
owner should've gone to prison years ago
buy if you're retarded enough to buy shit with a warranty worth less than shit
so, if you want a large, expensive papeweight made out of standard, cheapo stainless steel, go ahead.

>>60263575
Actually, that pic is posted on /fa/ to deride hipster faggots. No one on /fa/ wears one.

>>60264265
3 is the correct answer

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>>60264600
>He doesn't know

>>60264661
No, Seiko is just contrarian. The lume does create a nice counterbalanced hand physically though. You can still measure seconds without minor indices and estimate the 0-5 result as you would any other scientific measuring device.

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>>60262509
is it this one?
t. owner of the same

>>60264726
There was a whole thread dedicated to them about 3 days ago with over 200 replies

>>60264926
Well, it's been a few years. I guess that place really does degenerate with every passing second.
Fuck.

>>60264939
I wasn't joking when I said it was a tumblr outpost

>>60264829
No, you just don't understand why there is lume on the second hand at all, and thus don't realize why it doesn't matter which side of the second hand it's on.

>>60264658
>>Too bad the watches are now riddled with technical and quality issues
>What??
Have a gander at the usual BWC sites and you'll see some very unhappy chappies, and a plethora of collector oldfags who have seen the decline firsthand and know what their talking about argue against thirsty nouveau riche whores who have latched on to the brand recently and will defend it to the death.

Fact: over the past 7 or 8 years Patek's production has doubled. They did this to keep up with the chinese market (but uh oh! that gravy trains slowing down! better lower them prices in slow markets! - they did in North America, last year).

Comparisons between patek's most basic movements (215/240's) shows very sloppy (relatively speaking; still miles ahead of the lower tiers of horology) finishing that doesn't compare with competitors in the high end.
There was a time when Patek didn't cheap out on their basic stuff. Apparently now they only put really effort into high end complicated models and the like.

In 2009 PP decided to no longer bother with the Geneva Seal, something they've adhered to and trumped up for like 120 years.

The seal was a mark of excellence awarded by the Canton of Geneva to watches made in the canton. The seal had to do with attaining fabtabulous levels of finishing mainly, and didn't really worry about performance.

>>60264265
Cock Tail

>>60264661
>>60264600
The purpose of a lumed seconds hand on a diver is to tell in underwater darkness if the watch is running or not. I believe it's even required for the ISO diver rating.

>>60264974
I'm not even surprised. They strike me as far to worried about their image and not worried enough about the underlying horologically by which that image should be earned.

Notwithstanding VC's lack of a brand identity, I do respect the concerted effort they've been making to reaffirm their horological credentials in the last 10 years.

>>60264970
>implying
It serves to quickly demonstrate the watch is working in dark environments but that doesn't mean you can't also measure with it. Seiko's design is fine for field watches but it makes sense less on other models.

>>60265031
*Underlying horology.

>>60264974
Abandoning the Seal:

Basically, it was Patek, Vacheron and a few smaller others that had this seal for ages and ages. Along comes Roger Dubuis to fuck all of that up. Their watches got the seal too, not a problem in itself, but they basically caused its decay into worthlessness. When Dubuis was suffering in the mid 00's, they started pumping utter shit that was PRETTY, just to maintain cashflow and stay alive. Basically, watches they KNEW would fuck up pretty soon, but were finished well enough to get the seal because the seal doesn't account for performance (because it's a fucking given, isn't it?).

This degraded the reputation of the seal, and by association cheapened the other makers that did live up to the spirit of things.

Dubuis was "rescued" by Richemont at the verge of death. Apparently the final straw for Patek was when Cartier got the seal for their Ballon Bleu movement (made for them by Dubuis, a true manufacture).

Patek decided that it was powerful enough to institute its own seal, said fuck you to the canton and left.

After this the Canton decided to tighten up requirements for the seal and actually make it less prone to abuse: now not only about finishing of the movement, it included the whole watch and performance, better than COSC standards I think.

Anyway, why I mention the seal is because Patek now have no independent authority giving their shit a once over before it gets sent to the customer. Advice I keep seeing is that, if you can get a pre-patek seal variant, get that one because it's less likely to fuck up. Don't know how much credence to give that.

But now Patek apparently does all the extra QC the seal givers used to give the movements.

There are so many accounts of horrible screw ups that this cannot be the case. This is not fucking JLC we're talking about, this is Patek fucking Philippe. There shouldn't be this kind of fuckup, consistently!

>>60265146
So, they double production since the abandoned any independent scrutiny of their production, but where are they going to get all these extra watchmakers from?

They don't get trained in a fortnight. People speculate that they've scavenged from their repair staff which would explain the horrific service times of months and months (and then, if you read the accounts, shit STILL comes back fucked, or worse).

So, making more watches, too many for them to handle, at worse standard so there's more service calls and because all the repairers are off busy making shit the service ques get backlogged to fuck and back.

They announced recently that they're scaling down production a bit. Hmm, could that be because that faggot CEO sees the light and that he's ruining the name of a company that's been a hallmark of horological excellence for nigh on a century? Nope, just because fewer chinks are buying them and shit just ain't moving.

I was reading a conversation between some HK collectors that were surprised that a recent Patek model (usually in demand) was so easily attained by one of their members. "Sign of the times" they called it (watch sales down in HK for 2016 by 30%, and asia as a whole is 53% of all luxury watch sales worldwide in 2016).

>>60265265
Just a few threads I bookmarked because I thought that they might help anyone who might consider forking over the cash for one of these watches one day, look around and you'll find more very easily:

$50,000 watch here:
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=434013

(same faggot, problem not resolved)
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=453629

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=523057

These accounts (and there are many more) do not inspire much confidence, in my opinion, not when such large amounts of money are being asked.

I mean, this is just online, talking with oldfags in person who are into watches and they've noticed a real drop.

JLC is worse, but then again JLC aren't asking the very highest of prices and not as much is expected of them.

I advise any anons interested in JLC to look at some of the bullshit that has occurred with them before making any substantial purchases.

Do your research, asses the risks. How many of these guys are coasting along on old reputations?

>>60264977
I am all for a well lumed watch. Adding a "tail" to the seconds hand in order to place lume there seems just like unnecessary clutter.

>>60265265
Fascinating stuff. This subject piques my interest enough to do a little looking into some of the haute houses and the talk surrounding them.

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I've been lurking here for the last few weeks trying to decide on a nice dress/business watch and I've narrowed it down to these two. The look/aesthetic is most important to me but the materials and fit and finish are important, too. Anyone have any thoughts on which of these I should go with, or any recommendations otherwise? I really like the Seiko Dolce on the right but the Tissot on the left is also nice and is about 1/3 the price.

>>60265427
I know you've mentioned before that ALS still had an excellent QC and service reputation, and I've seen your criticisms of how JLC handles servicing. How are VC in the QC and servicing departments these days by comparison to ALS, PP, and JLC?

>>60265449
I think the Tissot really shows its relative price.

>>60265146
Interesting.

I have been looking for a new watch and since my tastes are more along discrete complications I have been mainly looking at PP and JLC. Since PP took the plunge in quality, how then is JLC holding up?

>>60265449
If you don't mind the size, I'd go Dolce 100%. It's a much better quality watch.

>>60265433
>necessary lume
>seems unnecessary
Kid, I just explained it to you.

>>60265427
>I mean, this is just online, talking with oldfags in person who are into watches and they've noticed a real drop.
One suggested for me to look at Lange instead of Patek. I'm reading this more and more, but it's hard to see through the usual fanboism (on both sides) any enthusiast's discussion forum generates.

>>60265031
>Notwithstanding VC's lack of a brand identity, I do respect the concerted effort they've been making to reaffirm their horological credentials in the last 10 years.
Indeed. I've been looking a lot closer at VC (and Lange) after reading about all this BS.

It really makes me think that haute horology really is a fool's game.

>>60260812
why are these shitty watches so expensive? a $10 clock will work better than these and does not require maintenance that costs thousands. theres no reason to buy a $100k clock that needs to be adjusted every month when there are much cheaper alternatives that can keep right time as long as the battery is not dead.

>>60265449
The funny thing about a lot of the cheaper Tissots is they look like fake chink stuff even though they are original.
Go Dulce.

>>60262419
Have the same, love it. I use it as hiking/third world tourism watch. Looking for something better that looks like it, maybe smaller.

>>60265577
>clock
We're talking watches here, bud

>>60265577
where are you getting those Grand Seiko 9F movts. for 10$?

>>60265464
>I know you've mentioned before that ALS still had an excellent QC and service reputatio
I've heard that, though there were problems like 15 years ago, they're better at it now, and apparently (at least in most markets) Richemont don't lump ALS together with their other brands under the same service centre. That's a plus in my eyes (do some reading on richemont service centres).

>How are VC in the QC and servicing departments these days by comparison to ALS, PP, and JLC?
I have been looking. But it's actually kinda hard because they're just not as popular and there's not as much talk about them. I've read about horrible service repuation, but that's at least a decade or more old. I can't find any more reliable info on them in the last say, 5 years. I see gripes about service times (that's not unique in the slightest) and bitching about richemont service centres (in some markets), but as for general QC? I don't see the same kind of out-of-the-box/only-one-week-of-ownership fuckery I've been seeing when looking at JLC and PP screwups.

In person: VC isn't very popular where I live, and the collector oldfags I talk to don't really care for them, so no anecdotes from that front either.

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>>60265470
Are you suggesting it looks cheap? To be fair, that's a glamor shot of the Dolce—it's a pretty simple and "boring" watch (but I do love it).

>>60265482
>If you don't mind the size
I think it's similar to the Tissot. Thanks for your input

>>60265583
Will probably do

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>>60265471
Were you the one that wanted a Calatrava? Check out independent watchmakers like Roger W. Smith

>>60260871
At some point they started using a stock dial and moved the Dominoes logo to the bracelet.

>>60265577
Genius! I'll just duct tape a clock to my arm! Think of the convenience, having such convenient access to an accurate measure of the time!

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Its real nia hours. Just post godtier watches!

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Post your collections anons

>>60264405

Lol pleb.

>>60265843
chinese watchbox?

>>60265705
TITS AND GTFO

>>60261450
Pandering to noveau riche because they didn't inherit shit from their parents.

>>60265705
Calatrava's are 20k. Smith are 130k minimum. Not exactly in the same playing field.

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German cars and Russian watches, anything else is pleb tier.

>>60266138
Is that your father driving? Say hello from me wristlet

>>60266149
It's my brother driving my dad's new car. I may be a wristlet but the watch fits percetly on my wrist.

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My new Komandirskie arrived today. I love the dial, it looks very detailed (for a slav piece) irl.
The original "leather" band is phucking absolute nasty garbage though.

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Thoughts on the new alpinist?

>>60266195
Classless fuck now. Pandering to them Airplane enthusiasts

>>60266138
>staring into the face of China

>>60266206
It's about as classless as your average Sinn, I think.

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>>60266219
Gimme proofs that the dial is Chinese made fagget

>>60266223
Yes thats true, theyre uglyfucks too. Honestly they didnt even need to change it.

>rolex
>not quasi rich quasi Swiss german poorfag garbage.

>>60266253
Ok, faggot
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f10/meranom-help-needed-1098050-post8583642.html#post8583642

>>60266195
Hideous

>>60266132
fugg you're right

Can anyone give me a run-down on Seiko's "diashield" coating? How does it affect polishing the watch?

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Look how odd this pallet fork is. Anyone know anything about these ?

>order a perlon nato strap from tower.time (ebay)
>20 days later it still isn't here

did i get memed on /g/?
besides eulit, who makes quality nato straps?

>>60266195
Absolutely disgusting. The fucking prospex logo is showing up even here now?

>>60266523
It makes the watch scratch less. LESS, not completely scratch proof. My SARK005 has very small and tough to see scuffs after 5 months, usually I'll have significant desk diving marks by this point. Don't fucking polish watches at all, much less one with diashield.

>>60266641
>Don't fucking polish watches at all, much less one with diashield
Why not?

>>60266676
Because it ruins them, all the lovely sharp lines become dull and ugly.

newfag here, been lurking for a while but now looking to purchase first watch..

does it make sense to get an automatic watch for daily use (especially if its a first watch)? looking for something <$150

>>60266691
So patina+shit or bust in your opinion?

>>60266595
The hell

>>60266715
II would much rather have really good polish with some scratches and sharp case lines then dull ugly polish with rounded edges.

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>>60266702
Ray II

>>60266738
To make it better the gear train is only drilled holes no jewles

>>60266753
So all of your watches are just destined to get progressively worse for all eternity? Seems a bit extreme to me is all

>>60266821
Drilled all the way through? Or drilled partially so the bridge acts as the jewel?

>>60265561
>Kid, I just explained it to you.
Spud, you did not. Not being able to read what I wrote is par for the course I guess. Not being able to read what you wrote yourself takes the prize.

>>60266876
Everything gets progressively worse for all eternity though, that's how the fucking universe works. Having your watch polished is making your watch more worse than if you did nothing at all.

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>>60265705
>Were you the one that wanted a Calatrava?
No, that was not me.
>Check out independent watchmakers like Roger W. Smith
Very nice. And way, way out of range for me.

I like the way he brings a lot of information to the face without clutter. In this case, however, I don't like the date indicator (311). Using such a ring for a true cyclical feature such as GMT and lunar position would be more to my tastes.

Pic. related is also informative but also overloaded.

>>60266768
excuse my ignorance bc I am also a burger but does this mean:
a) automatics are fine for daily use and
b) a diver is generally a good watch choice for every occasion?

>>60266924
I'm not talking about running it through a buffer wheel, I'm talking about some compound and a cloth
>hur dur the universe
come on man

>>60266964
lolno
quartz for beater EDC and diver is not appropriate for semi-formal or above

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Anybody own this piece of shit?

>>60266676
Look up polish jobs for more expensive watches and the many problems people have had.
When getting something costly serviced, depending on condition of course, it's usually better not to request polish as there's just too many certified monkeys working at service centers these days. A bad polish job will lower the value of a nice watch, and is something to keep an eye out for when looking at 2nd hand pieces.

Here's a thread I stumbled across, and, though it's not as bad as some others I remember reading from other brands, I too would be pissed.

http://www.watchprosite.com/page-wf.forumpost/fi-11/ti-1081708/dv-true/wf.responses.open_bLoB_s-0/

>>60266821
Budget movement like in >>60261469 perhaps?
Not built to last, just designed to tell time until it grinds itself to death. This is the reason why there's so few Ingersoll dollar watches, despite being made in such abundance and reputedly more famous than Roosevelt.
(story goes that on Roosevelt's safari trip in Africa, people knew who he was only because he "came from the place the Dollar Watch comes from!" )

>>60266964
>a) automatics are fine for daily use and
yes
>b) a diver is generally a good watch choice for every occasion?
Depends on who you are and what you do, doesn't it?

If you're posting on an inuit basketweaving whisper station and asking this question at all it's likely that you live a casual enough existence that a generally sporty watch will do you well enough 95% of your life, and for the other % it would depend on the kind of diver and the occasion in question.

Just wear whatever, nobody gives a shit anymore about anything.

>>60267027
Yes. I have that one but keep it on a nato. I bought it to knock about on a seaside holiday with some foreign friends as I didn't want my nicer diver stolen. I still wear it from time to time. I like that the crown will never dig into my wrist. Only watch I've seen where where the lume dial variant is actually acceptable.

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>>60263459

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>>60266964
Yes, Orients and Seiko automatics are reliable for every day use. Divers actually can be worn to formal events, especially since they are hidden by your cuffs, so long as they're not oversized.

>>60266964
Yes and yes

>>60265843
It's like a drawer of vomit covered shit.

>>60266595
What the fuck is that

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>>60266595
Basic Roskopf, or pin-pallet escapement.

Basically the chink quartz movement of the pre-quartz era. Only most of these are Swiss. I don't think the Japanese or the Russians ever did these.

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>>60267762
I can't find a good angle but I believe this is one.

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GRAND touring

Recommended beginner watches for small wrists? Both quartz and automatic would be great. <40mm, Looking to buy one that's semi dress and one they is good as a beater and casual wear

>>60268044
Snk809

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What about a G-Shock?
I'm thinking to buy one for every-day use. I'm an EE that test and install small-medium size lan-wan.
For occasions I'm thinking at a EQB-501XDB-1AER

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>>60268104

>>60268077
And for dress watch get a white dial Casio quartz on black strap

>>60268044
SGG729/SGG707 or anything Seiko 5 for automatics

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>>60268104
but anon, the other models in that line are so much nicer...

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>>60267762
GDR

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Why do people like watches? I collect watches but I really dont know why. All my other hobbies are creative, not posessive like watches are. Modifying a watch spoils it for me, or a small defect means it goes into the trash.

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What band should I get for this

Current one is almost done for

>>60268727
Camille Fournet croc.

>>60268640
ya I don't know it's kind of dumb

>>60268727
>>60268742
eBay Vietnamese croc straps are a much better value.

>>60268640
They look cool
They provide unique functionality
They are an integral part of our culture
The tech behind them is cool
You can be creative with them if you want
I have a Seiko-branded cock shoved up my ass

>>60268640
>All my other hobbies are creative, not posessive like watches are.
Many watch collectors, especially but not limited to vintage collectors, really have an investigative and learning hobby.

People know quite a bit about history, technologies and production methods. They 'posses' more knowledge than actual watches.

>>60269063
This is precisely why I am generally more interested in vintage watches than new watches. It rewards investigative ability and knowledge even more highly than simply spending more money, and a big part of the game for me is finding watches I believe are undervalued by other vintage watch collectors and trying to find a better deal than the going market rate for a given vintage piece.

>>60269063
fuck off ninefag

>>60261399
>technical achievements or accuracy
Maybe because they've been obsolete for decades in those regards.

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So I'm sort of new to this. What do I do about the servicing of a <=$150 automatic? I hear it's just not worth it and to just wear it until it dies. Is self servicing an unwise thing to attempt? What if the watch needs "regulated" when I get it, can I at least do that myself? I've always hated the idea of having to have my technology fixed or worked on by someone other than me and watches would be no exception.
I just need to know what I'm getting into before I buy an automatic watch.

>>60269832
You can regulate your watch yourself without too much trouble. Having the tools to service your watch is not cheap or straightforward (particularly when it comes to lubricating the movement).

>>60269832
You would have to spend quite a lot more than $150 in tools and quite a bit of time to learn how to service an automatic movement.

It simply is not practical for someone to learn solely for the purposes of servicing their own watch(es).

Are Seiko Spring Drives made to last as long as Swiss mechanical watches?

>>60270059
A well-constructed, well-serviced mechanical watch will easily last a hundred years, quite possibly significantly longer.

Seiko spring drives have a longer service interval than traditional mechanical watches. Their long-term viability is at this point frankly untested, as they've only really been around thirty years. There are also concerns about future parts availability and difficulty to service - any decent watchmaker can service a basic traditional mechanical watch, whereas spring drive likely need to go back to Seiko in Japan for service.

I'd say that I expect my spring drive to last at least 30-50 years and I would not be at all surprised for it to last 100, but if I had a watch that absolutely had to work for 100 years, a traditional mechanical watch would be the way to go.

>>60270059
Why wouldn't they be?

>>60269880
>>60269920
Ok I didn't know the tools were that expensive. I guess I'd just decide if I want to keep it when the first service time comes. Will I probably need to regulate it when I get it. Will it ever need regulated again?

>>60270227
What watch is it, and how sensitive will you be to its accuracy?

Making some wild assumptions about what watch it is, you can regulate these down to 5 or 10 seconds per day with some work (and MAYBE better than that, if you get lucky and get a better-than-average movement by chance) compared to maybe the 10 to 20 seconds per day they come stock.

I'd suggesting wearing it for a month or so before regulating it for two reasons: one, to allow anything that needs to break in to break in (this is probably a fake reason but pretend it's the real reason), and two, to allow yourself to figure out if you really need to regulate it or can live with it the way it is (this is probably the real reason, but pretend it's a fake reason).

>>60270154
Thanks. Great info.

Considering Spring Drive is available mostly on Grand Seikos, which are priced comparable to Rolex, it's definitely concerning if they don't last as long since that's one of the reasons to buy luxury Swiss mechanicals. If you're going to trade permanence for accuracy, why not just go full quartz? And Spring Drives are still less accurate than full quartz watches.

>>60270440
They're not as accurate as the thermo-compensated 9F movements, but many people report better than 15s/month accuracy with their spring drives. That's well within 'good accurate quartz' range.

>>60270343
Well I'm not what watch yet exactly, just that it probably won't be over $150. Let's just say an snk809, since that's what it might be if and when I figure it's not too small for me. Whatever it might be I'll follow your suggestion.

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Currently I have this Leijona watch (my first watch ever) and a Skagen watch. I'm planning to get a proper watch that's not too expensive. Is a Seiko SKX009 a good choice?

>>60270680
It's a decent pick, just be aware that the 7S26 movement doesn't have hacking or handwinding. So if that'd bother you take a look at other pieces.

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Anyone familiar with Orion watches? How are they?

>>60270788
they look like your average kickstarter brand. NH35 is a good movement. Sapphire, 100m, NH35, I would think of as a 300$-400$ watch at most, but if you like the style, hard to find anything really disqualifying about the watch.

>>60270904
>they look like your average kickstarter brand

From what I've read of the guy who owns the brand, Nick, he's still in watch school. He's selling manufactured movements in custom cases, coming from a background of modifying Seiko watches, so he's got some chops.

Prices start at $400 and he does a lot of artsy stuff. Engraved cases like the one above goes for $1000. I think it's better value than a lot of German mid-range brands.

How much should you pay for a mint condition King Quartz penisquartz?
$80? $100? $120?

>>60271379
If it's really in mint condition then around $100 give or take is a good price.

Hows tissot's powermatic 80 movement?
Is it better than a 2824?
I got a tossit le locle with the movement as a gift.

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>Why is my watch stopping at 8pm?

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>>60271805

>>60271805
How does that even happen?

>>60271805
>oops i sent the time too far forward
>let me just reverse the second hand

>>60271833
Obviously.

>>60271842
Who knows.

>>60271853
No.

>>60271853
minute, excuse me please

>>60268104
This is probably a dumb question, but why would you want a non-smart watch with bluetooth capability?

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>>60272139
My best guess is a step counter. Would be the same reason I converted a Misfit to a keychain.

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>>60266195
Good God. Glad I got the good one (although I wouldn't be heart broke if the compass disapeared.

>>60272251
Does the army let you wear flat-faced, reflecting watches?

>>60272290
I'm in that Nat Guard, and from what I read (just transfered branches so not 100% clear) pretty much anything other than bling bling is okay. Additionally no one cares, as long as it's not some gold plated monstrosity.

>>60262419
>he doesn't deliberately take multiple extra long shits daily essentially having the company pay him hundreds if not thousands a year to sit on the throne

>>60265433
It acts as a counterweight.

>>60270788
It's literally a reddit watch.

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Please tell me I did good.

>>60272602
did you intend to buy a fake?

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Can anyone identify?

>>60265433
It is literally a requirement for ISO certification to have lume on the second hand. You're not actually reading the second hand, but you need to quickly, even in relative darkness, confirm that the watch is operating even just at a glance.

Also, a second hand generally has a tail, it wasn't added just for that. Have you seen many watches? They're generally not lumed though except dive watches.

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>>60272696
Looks like an Omega Constellation of some sort...

>>60272664
Yup

>>60272700
fuck off ninefag

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Isn't this a lovely chronograph movement?

>>60267996
that's a big hole

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You guys think the price is going to raise or drop after release?

>>60273581
depends how many they make, but you can still find those rider spirit guigaro limited editions at retail price for example

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>>60273581
On one hand each color is limited to only 2000 pieces. On the other hand it uses a shitty, entry level quartz movement, the 7N36 (the original had a way better quartz movement) and plastic case parts.

I hope Seiko realizes they dun goofed and make like a mass produced Prospex quartz model. But probably not, seeing how every Giugiaro reissue is inferior in some way to the 80's original.

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>>60273457

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>>60272602
>buying a chronograph diver
>buying a fake chronograph diver

>>60266195
I like it.

Larger and sportier than the SARB017, so not as useful for formal occasions.

As if any of you ever attend any formal occasions.

>>60260812
>using pastebin for a guide

Use the fucking /g/ wiki. That's what it's for.

wiki.installgentoo.com

Put your guide on there

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>>60266195
Not a fan of the numerals or hands and the compass bezel looks off in a contrasting colour.

I like the old white Alpinist the best but they go for a fortune.

>>60274815
No. Pastebin is much better than your paranoid stallman communist wiki.

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>>60272602

>>60274892
No hope at all.

Pros of using the wiki:

- Info can be updated by multiple people
- Is searchable, and in a wiki full of other useful information on tech
- Has super clear formatting
- Doesn't track you
- Has page and edit history, with diff functionality
- Is a familiar interface to anyone who has used Wikipedia
- Users can find the page outside of the watch general

Cons: Literally fucking none

>>60274934
>>60274892
I know he's trolling because he has realised he's wrong, but use the wiki! It will save so much hassle

>>60274934
nobody cares. this was written by one anon half a year ago and nobody has ever used it or updated it.

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My local department store is selling these Seikos. Wtf I thought they were JDM? We Nippon now??

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Thoughts on this?

so what do those "jewels" do in watches? not even one manufacturer explains that but everyone will always say how many jewels their watch has.

>>60275271
They're used on the pivots of moving parts, due to their low coefficient of friction. Basically they make the watch last longer.

>>60275258
Old alpinist looks better. That and it had a 6R15 instead of a 4R35.

>>60275288
Are there less jewels on quartzes because they have less moving parts?

>>60275271
A jewel is a ruby jewel. They're cut and polished, and then lubricated to provide a nearly 0-friction contact surface for pivots.
A "jewel" can only be stated if it serves a function within the watch. As dictated by swiss laws, and just accepted by others as it makes sense.
During the 1920s there was quite the explosion of watches with "56 Jewels", which just had ruby jewels splattered all over the dial.

>>60275338
Generally yes.

>>60275338
There can be, and tend to be in higher end quartz movements. But not in cheaper, "throwaway" quartz movements, which is 80% of them.

>>60275338
yes, but a good quartz would still have a few jewels. most quartz movements have no or very few jewels.

>>60269920
Is this true, though? How much time are we talking? With as much derping as you (we) tend to do about watches as a hobby, it seems plausible to me that it it could be worth it for some.

>>60275326
It's not an alpinist though.
The green version just looks like the SARB017 a bit.

The SARB017 was also more expensive when it came out I think.

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Is there a watch that looks like this with similar materials/fit/finish to the Seiko in this pic but without the 10SPY premium? Just curious before I take the plunge ($400 shipped from Japan and doesn't really hold its value well from what I see). If I can pick up an older Seiko with a similar aesthetic I'll probably do that instead, but I'm having a hard time sorting through their older quartzes. So far I see some King Seiko and "Seiko SQ" models which look nice enough but most of them have hooded lugs which is not really to my taste. Anyone have any recommendations?

>>60271717
It's an ETA 2824-2 with the best rate lowered to 21,600bph and with the balance wheel cut by laser at the factory to crudely adjust and regulate the mechanism without the usual human labor necessary.

ETA themselves regard the movement as disposable and would likely replace it in its entirety if you brought one for service. I'm not even sure if they sell parts to independents for those movements.

>>60275184
This year's Baselworld was the formal global launch of Seiko's Presage line, so it is no longer a JDM line.

>>60275258
A lot better than the green version.

>>60275574
Just buy the Dolce. It is of far better quality than anything quartz you will get for less than $400 new and doesn't require you to learn enough about or have enough patience to find a vintage Seiko quartz in decent condition.

>>60275793
>and doesn't require you to learn enough about or have enough patience to find a vintage Seiko quartz in decent condition.
Well, I'm not unwilling to do this, and it's a bit fun. I'm not in a rush—just figured someone here might be able to give me a jump start. I'll probably get the Dolce, but it's fun to learn and window shop.

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Fakewatchbusters of /wt/, tell me is this Day-Date ref. 18038 Bark Diamond 18k real or fake and why?
I'm trying to bust him.

Can I have a watchmaker remove the seconds hand on this Tissot, btw? >>60275574

Will it look stupid? I think the seconds hand looks shitty and cheap. It's also a bit too prominent compared to the minute hand which makes quick glances harder.

>>60275903
i have no idea if it's real or fake, but if i bought a solid gold watch with diamonds and the end links didn't fit the case i'd be pretty mad

>>60275903
Magnification looks right. I also don't see any steel showing through the gold indicating it's plated.

However if you look the bezel looks notably off center which is something Rolex would never allow. Also the luminova dots look wrong. Could just be a shit custom job though, and not factory Rolex.

>>60275398
If you're truly interested, look up the timezone watch school and then scrutinise their parts and tool kits for their courses supplied by Otto Frei.

When I was looking into this shit years back, it was commonly suggested that if you wanted to bother paying for one of their courses, then it would be cheaper to source to parts on a piece by piece basis from elsewhere to save some dosh.

I don't know if it's a case of the Frei part actually being quality tools etc., and just being expensive, or it's then ripping course takers off or whatever.

If you do subscribe, be sure to upload the docs and instructions here :D

Sharing is caring. I'm going to look back into it ;there may be a better alternative these days to learning a crash course on simple movement service that I don't know about (been like a decade since I bothered).

>>60275903
First off, the cyclops is misaligned. Second, I don't think Rolex ever released any Presidents with diamonds on the bezel.

>>60275903
Doesn't look fake, but it does look like a hack job.

>>60276024
You can find similar Rolex bezels on president daydates. They are not misaligned like this one though.

The owner claims that this one is from 1992, if that helps.

>>60275814
Oh, if you are actually willing to learn that's a different story. I'll see if I can dig up some useful reading material on vintage Seiko quartz watches for you later.

>>60276094
>The owner claims that this one is from 1992, if that helps.

Yeah because that's definitely not an original dial. Until 1997 lumed Rolex dials read "Swiss T<25" to indicate they had a radioactive material. "Swiss Made" did not appear until the early 2000's when they switched to glow-in-the-dark Superluminova dials.

This just looks like either a fake or an incredibly shitty custom job.

should i buy this?
http://ebay.com/itm/302277449548

>>60276168
Wow, thanks for the info. It's possible though that some idiot owner switched the dial if that's not a fake, it's supposed to be a 25yo watch after all.

>>60268138
I'm sorry my tastes harms you

>>60272139
I like the quadrant, I have a miband2 for steps/notifications. Does exist a version like that without Bluetooth?

>>60276240
Actually your taste is so bad it harms us all.

>>60276396
I can't stand "high-end" watches...
The only one I like is the submariner

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>>60276421
>I can't stand "high-end" watches...

There must be something wrong with you my man. Rolex, Patek Philippe, JLC, etc. all make beautiful watches.

>>60276455
I think the lens on the date is horrible, for example

>>60276455
why say that and post a picture of a terrible watch

>>60276221
Up until there early 90s I believe, faddy for jewelers to supply modded diamond dials in wacko colors to datejust/daydate models (esp ladies stuff) . That may have extended to bezels and bracelets too.

Rolex decided to tighten up their brand (no more Bond product placements etc.) in the early 90s and this is when they started coming down hard on ADs tried to pull a De Beers and strictly control retailer pricing and discounts. To help maintain brand image they also effectively disallowed these modded monstrosities by absolutely declining service to any watch that did not come to them as it left the factory. This policy stands today and many a dumbfag has been turned away because of nonstandard parts being present on their watch due to unscrupulous sellers, independent repairers or whatever (Might be Rolex parts, but if they're on the wrong model, e.g. hands, bezel, dial or whatever, then you SOL and have to go to an independent). Jewelers promptly stopped adding these decorations to the new models they sold and they're now confined to the dustbin of horological history.

>>60276505
I dunno about that watch in particular, but I will just add that I think that it looks like shit.

Remember: "diamonds are a girl's best friend" . I don't care if standard models still come with diamonds "for men", the only people I see wearing them besides grills (and those are bought for them) are old gay queens: flaming homos whose halcyon days of buttfucking are long over. Crinkly and dry with gross old balls you see in the county club changing rooms, swinging by a single tendon, and festooned with liverspots, all the while the miasma of corruption and decay from having lived a life of excess surrounds them, figuratively that is; these guys usually wear really nice cologne at least.

Some of these can be cool dudes, but I dunno if you'd want to ape them.

Unless you're in that demographic, or want to be associated with it, avoid diamonds on your watch. Unless you're mainland Chinese or Arab, because you have no taste anyway and dgaf what others think.

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>>60276396
>>60276455

I have this Breil, I like it, but it's really heavy

>>60276546
you mean niggers?

>>60276577
shitter

>>60276590
It's a gift I like it
Suggest something then

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>>60276577
D A D C O R E
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>>60276632
?
I'm 24 yo and absolutely not a dad

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>>60276421
I think high end watches only work well when wearing suits or smart casual. Wouldn't wear it with a hoodie

>>60276683
>>60276683

>>60276579
The few real American niggers I've come across weren't of the wealthy rapper/showbiz type that could afford this kind of thing, but yah I guess that if it was within their reach they'd surly reach for it (along with the owner's wallet and car keys)

>>60276676
I know
I wear a suit only for particular occasions, not during my usual days.
I really like the edifice lineup and I was only asking for help. Noob in watches here

>>60276632
nothing dadcore about a thinkpad faggot

>>60277308
that's just a silly collage made by a teenager, probably a product of a single-mother household or something, doesn't appear that he actually knows what dads would wear

>>60277368
>>60276632
This is like midwestern working class dadcore, and even then it's not completely accurate.

>>60276209
At that price, if you kike the looks, y not?

>>60277308
>>60277368
>>60277378
I grabbed it after 3 seconds on Google, I did not make an extensive search for the perfect image

>>60277705
well your laziness will not be rewarded in life, kiddo. If you want to troll you gotta make it count.