What's the point in water cooling systems when they can

>>60247486
Water cooling has its uses if you are doing extreme overclocking

Also some people get it for the looks, which is stupid, but lots of stupid people out there

Leaking is not a problem with most AIOs, but the problem is they are noisy as fuck compared to good air coolers

>>60247647
>they are noisy as fuck compared to good air coolers
Really? I thought that water cooling is supposed to be silent.

>>60247486
>>60247647
>water

>>60247664
They aren't, the pump noise makes them much worse.

There's no water in "watercooling kits" you tardos.

Nice buy. Noctua is probably the best when it comes to air cooling

>>60247673
Lower the pump speed then.
A D5 Vario has more than enough flow to move through my RX360+RX480+2x GTX680 EKWB blocks on lowest possible speed.

>>60247486
noctua is not the best air cooling solution anymore, just by the way should have done your research

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>>60247486
>tfw noctua actually snaps your mobo

>>60247827
What's better than an NH-D15?

>>60247679
C2H4O + H2O → HO–CH2CH2–OH

>>60247486
>better compability across motherboars, memory sticks, cases and so on.
>looks better
>doesn't strain your mobo

>>60247486
>What's the point in water cooling systems when they can leak and destroy everything.

For 90% percent of computer users it's pointless and possibly counterproductive just like having multiple video cards, but it makes your pc look like a science experiment and a car engine so dumb brains with a lot of money think they need it to feel good about themselves.

>>60247841
not going to spoonfeed you when you already wasted your money protip check logical

>>60247834
That's what the backplate is for you dummy.

>>60247486
Mostly just looks

>>60247913
Looks like you're retarded, there's nothing better than the NH-D15 on logical

Been running an i7 2700K overclocked at 4.5GHz with a Noctua NH D15 for 4+ years

>>60247841
>>60247960
You're the real retard for replying to him

>>60247983
Thanks for sharing

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>>60247647
>AIO
>In reference to water cooling
ishyggydiggy
They are called closed loop coolers. CLC

>>60247913
The falcon is a paid shill.

>>60247827
retard

>>60248008
Autism is one hell of a disease

>>60247841
Hyper 212

>>60247976

what will you rate the Noctua NH D15?

>>60248047
That's cheaper, not better

>>60248080
price/performance

>>60247486
To me it's about having good temps with a cooling system that's quieter than ambient

This especially becomes nice when the GPU is added to the loop

But I fully acknowledge that it's super hobby level stuff and will never be cost effective

>>60248047
Hyper 212 has been superseded by the Cryorig H7. Same price, shorter, quieter, better cooling.

>>60248047
>>60248446
>Not getting the Scythe Kotetsu

maybe next time

cryorig is obviously far superior to noctua its within one celsius and is about 40$ cheaper, any pajeet who thinks otherwise please poo in loo

>>60248319
>super hobby level stuff

Using it for your home PC is a gimmick. Chillers are about as common as blowers in the industry though.

Your dad's condom leaked and destroyed everything.

>>60247841
Thermalright Macho

>>60248459
>being a weeb

>>60248509
Not according to the benchmarks I've seen

>>60248531
>$40
>cools better than the u14s
>quieter than cryorig and the u12s

>>60248531
anime website

>>60248553
You shouldn't go after paid Benchmarks, check forums for real world usage.

>>60248619
I don't trust some random guy posting on forums, I trust real reviewers

>>60248057
Best heatsink I have ever used.Never had any problems with it.

I think I've got the same cooler in my system. It works great and looks alright but they are fucking huge and makes getting to the RAM slots difficult. Am thinking of going for a smaller one or something when the times comes to changing the CPU or mobo

>>60248483
Noctua has more straightforward mounting kits and free kits for future builds, as well as a very long term warranty they actually honor no questions asked instead of the usual trying to wriggle themselves out for asinine reasons as usual in most other brands. Most of the times you don't even have to send the faulty unit back, just decomission it and they will send you the replacement right away.

Yeah, they're expensive as fuck but you get what you pay for, not just in product quality but in the ammount of bundled accesories and support.

Protip: their cheap, no accesories included fans are barely an euro or two more expensive than other similar brands.

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Anything made well won't leak and nothing premade can beat the Kraken X62 temps and dB as a water or air cooler

>>60249311
Just looked it up, it's basically equal to the NH-D15, except it costs twice as much, and has all the limitations of any water cooler.

>>60250267
I said the best, not 2'C hotter than the best while covering half of the motherboard and rig with a massive shit coloured plastic & aluminium block
Also, real gaming loads will make internal CPU exhaust setups up to another 5'C less reliable that a decent cold air intake through a liquid rad, as the GPU and PSU are heating the air going into the CPU block

>>60250949
Meanwhile, the VRMs and RAM are being cooked.

heat pipes technically are water cooling but so much better than pumped liquids.

^autism

Water cooling can be effective and nice hobby thing for those that want to

Sure it was troll but some guy years ago said he dug hole in ground outside window w. 55 gallon drum in it w. The liquid and hoses going to it

>>60249311
>NZXT Kraken
>good
>better than the legendary NH-D15
There's a reason why no company has made anything better than it. Air cooling will always be superior to water cooling, especially when you factor in pump noise.

>>60248891
To be fair, when I had an issue with a year old cryorig fan starting to buzz they sent me out a new one no cost no questions. I use a noctua now but no complaints at all about cryorig's support.

>>60251404
Nice to know that. It's a shame their stuff is as expensive as Noctua in Europe, if not more.

>>60247664
all in ones are noisy as fuck, a good silent pump that literally is silent to the human ear when its in the case costs around the same price as an all in one cooler does on its own.

>>60251441
Yeah it seems they only really stock the bottom tier and top tier in EU, none of the better value mid range is easy to find.

>>60248446
the cryorig is twice the price of a 212, hell, 212's can be found for sub 20$ if you look hard enough, just on newegg im looking at the difference of 20$ to 40$

>>60247486
So I can see my RGB RAM

>>60247486
why are the colors like that
literally the "shit hits the fan" desgn

>>60251647
It's the best marketing idea ever. Everytime anybody shares a pic online everybody automatically know it's a Noctua fan while the rest are more often than not completely unrecognisable or plain black.

>>60247841
BeQuiet! DarkRock 3 or something like that

>>60251678
huh that's pretty clever

>>60248446
they both get BTFO by the Deepcool Gammaxx 400

NHD15 too intimidating
Buy NH U12 instead

>>60251516
>just on newegg im looking at the difference of 20$ to 40$
212 evo is 35 bucks on newegg.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

>>60248619
Yea, you know in gameing people say that batman and mad max have the deaper combat engines then ninja gaiden, bayonetta, or devil may cry...

peoples opinions on forums are worth jack shit, corroborating evidence in reviews is king.

>>60247834
thats why you dont vertical mount the hardware, horisontal master race.

I've had the same water loop, with the same water that has never been taken apart for the past 5 years.
Since sandybridge I have never had to worry about keeping an overclocked cpu cool.

Never had any hint of a leak.
Never had to take it apart and clean anything
Never had to drain and refill it
Only hoovered out the radiator once

And it has shown no degradation in performance over all this time.
It's rare to have any computer component withstand upgrades or struggle to cope as time goes on. Money well spent.

>>60248047
been using 212 from conroe gave me good overclock for E6300
when I upgraded to sandy bridge I just added a second fan for push-pull configuration for 4.7GHz overclock

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>>60247841
This

>>60251910
was looking at the 212 + as they are basically the same in performance.

>>60252213
Wtf that will snap your motherboard in half

>>60251244
correct that, better then it for a reasonable price. there are a few cases that exhaust heat for passively cooled systems, both low end and extreme high end, but you are paying for it either way.

the d15 is just simply the best air cooler hands down, got one on my computer, the gpu will turn off fans completely if its under 60c and when it does that, I have a core x9 and its included fans, along with the d15, shit is almost 100% silent. Its honestly weird as fuck having a silent computer after coming off an old old computer with a audible hdd, another old computer that had 5 delta fans for cooling, another old computer that had amd stock cooler screaming at 5000rpm near all the time, only to now have my computer almost inaudible at all times.

Hell the only part of my computer that makes an audible noise is the bluray player.

>>60247486
LEL i've had AIO's for YEARS not once leaked. you doing them good drugs babe.

>>60251204
A Lot of people do this, well, not dig the drum outside, but use massive reservoirs to passively cool water systems.

Hell, if you own a home, drill a hold the the wall, and pass the water tubs through it, with a quick disconnect, that way you exhaust the hot air into a room you don't use/are actively using... if you are attaching everything inside the case, you are a fucking retard. they make the cases with easy to access holes for a reason.

>>60252806
>>60252093
>WORKS ON MY MACHINE(TM)

I had an AIO that after a year and a half would make horrible clicking noises on the pump and struggled keeping the CPU below 50°C idle. Never again.

>>60247486
Got ot cuz it was relatively cheap compact and easy to install. No regrets!
Corsair H55 for an i7 6700K.

>>60247486
>noctua

Owning a case with four Noctua NF-F12's, I can attest to the fact that Noctua fans are absolutely whisper silent. Why, oh, why did they decide to color them beige-on-brown? Great fans. Ugliest fans.

>>60252912
Sucks to suck brah.

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>>60247486
>dude like they can leeeek lmao
>like what if the water burst at the mains and floods all of wayne tower
>dood it's stupid like XDD
>*sirens can be heard outside*
>It's not that bad man I'm onlying clocking in 90C on idle
>I'm not smoking anything mom

stay ignorant pajeet.

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>>60247827
>noctua is not the best air cooling solution anymore
it never was

>>60252978
personal taste, I love the colors.

Also, its a testament to how good they are seeing as people still buy them even though they despise the color.

https://www.msi.com/search/B250M%20PRO/product/1

which one? I'm really poor to buy something better,

because only retards let a heavy mental paper weight hang off their fragile MB slowly bending it over time before eventually snapping a rail or microcracking all over.

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I've installed plenty of CLCs and none of the units shipped out were ever reported to have problems.

I live in the tropics and the humidity is in the 80~90% with ambients at over 30C for more than 3/4s of the year. Realfeel is reporting 36C+

I personally run a Hyper 212X Turbo dual fan but it's barely adequate to cool my 1231-V3 I even had to replace the fans with 1800rpm high static pressure ones and it still hits 78C under aida 64 with only a 3.6ghz boost across all cores.

I've reseated the heatsink and replaced the thermal compound many times and this is the best result I could get with the Hyper 212x Turbo. Using a Lian-Li PC-9F case currently.

Looking into getting a 240 CLC in the future when I scale down to ITX, really really don't want to bother with the NH-D14/15 especially if I'm moving to ITX.

Loudest thing in my computer is the GPU by far when the fans spool past 50% on a load

>>60252582
212+ doesn't have AM4 support, so if someone had ryzen, they'd need the Evo.

>fuckhuge coolers that rek motherboards
what could posibly go wrong

>>60247779
This. Most DDC variants move the same amount of water at 60% PWM as they do at 100 but put off much less noise.

Dark rock pro 3 vs Le grand macho rt vs NH-D15, which is best? Cant seem to find many benchmarks that compare all 3 or even 2 of those.

>>60248446
What about the 212X?

>>60247486

Intel temperature spikes are better controlled with water cooling loops. Properly sized radiators are also cooler while freeing up room on the motherboard.

>paying near $100 for a piece of copper and some plastic.
Nah, I'd rather give that to an AIO maker.
>breaks hurr durr
Warranty. Any hardware damage they have to replace ect.

Currently the Corsair GTX h100 preforms at the same level as the nocurna shit. In both silence and heat.
It's over priced because it's currently flagship, but shouldn't be for much longer. They sell H100 V2's for $110.

I do find my V2 a bit noisy, but it's strapped to an 8350, I'd imagine corlets wouldn't have much problem, even Ryzen should be fine.
I don't plan on getting another AIO on my next build. Rather a custom loop. I'll even strip the radiator from this AIO, That almost pays for its self considering rads can be $100+ alone.
Stop overpaying for air coolers for fucks sake.

>>60254341
>spending more for a louder cooler because you think air coolers are overpriced
lel

>>60247486
water cooling is more silent compared to air coolers when at max cooling and thats important for me, so its ok to pay a premium for that reason.

>>60254364
$30-40 per fan. $30-40 per fan. $30-40 per fan. $30-40 per fan. $30-40 per fan. $30-40 per fan. $30-40 per fan.
Justify it. I'm pretty sure there's a few patents they've ripped off too.

>tfw NH-D14 going strong after all these years
>tfw it's probably the tallest cooler that can fit with in my new micro-ATX case

Anybody have any experience overclocking on Ryzen with this cooler? I'm getting the 1600X in a few days, was wondering what the results were.

>>60254417
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608026
>$20
>AIO babby still trying to justify his purchase

>>60254417
Sorry, what point are you trying to make?

Anyway, I paid $60 for an PH-TC14PE and it does about as well as any CLC, not to mention it's easier to fit in my mITX case than a dual fan CLC.

>>60254462
Fucking look at this shit.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AJ5653236&cm_re=Noctua-_-9SIA0AJ5653236-_-Product
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA85V3KW5506&cm_re=Noctua-_-9SIA85V3KW5506-_-Product
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA85V3KW3496&cm_re=Noctua-_-9SIA85V3KW3496-_-Product
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD7H5CT8933&cm_re=Noctua-_-9SIAD7H5CT8933-_-Product
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD7H5CT8933&cm_re=Noctua-_-9SIAD7H5CT8933-_-Product
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6504BW5395&cm_re=Noctua-_-9SIA6504BW5395-_-Product
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD245CA4142&cm_re=Noctua-_-9SIAD245CA4142-_-Product

Sure the 120's have dropped a lot in recent time. But this shit is retarded. Just like their customers. Cases with 'odd' fan sizes are more an more common, and company's like bequiet! are stepping up. That's why they can't charge as much as they used to.
Still even then, that amount of quiet is negligible when having any sound playing via headphones sitting on the desk at 1% is loud enough to drown out case fans from chinkshit like thermaltake.

>b-but I showed you can for $20
Yeah, $20USD. That's a fucking lot of money for plastic. Half the cunts on this sight probably have to work for several hours to afford one.
Some thing that costs all of $3 at the most should no retail that high in any case.

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>>60254649
>non-standard fans are expensive
WOOOOOW you sure showed me.

>>60254679
140mm is almost a standard . Yet it costs another $40USD over the 120mm.

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>>60254725
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dwR48d/noctua-case-fan-nfa14pwm

>>60254752
NF-A14 ULN $67
NF-A14 PWM $21-$35
Care to explain the difference between the two, and why the massive price hike is justified.

>>60254649
>he thinks the cost of products are just the materials

are you really that retarded

>>60255061
I know, there's a large social media marketing campaign. They must keep up the shills on reddit and 4chan.

daily reminder that /g/ is retarded when it comes to computer hardware. only difference between /g/ and /v/ is /g/ knows the proper names for shit but the opinions are just as retarded.

>what is mini-itx

>>60247647
>tfw i got an AIO for looks because i like how it frees up space inside the case, also maybe improves airflow a bit
>got a corsair h100i
>pump is silent, cant hear it at all
>replaced stock fans with two noctua iPPC fans, adjusted fan curves
>rig is inaudible even under gaming load
>very faint whirr from fans if it's on 100% rendering workload
i think i dun gud to be fair

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>>60247486

I find water cooling more aesthetically pleasing than a giant brick attached to my CPU like a tumor. If you have the money and prefer one to the other there's no reason not to.

>>60247486
expensive water cooling > expensive air cooling > cheap air cooling > cheap water cooling

i bought an AIO because the fan I had was doing a poor job at cooling the cpu and that it is also contributing to the heat in my room.

the noise is the same as the fan and it's ok for me and the cooling is way better than the fan and hopefully it doesn't heat up my room in the summer with this AIO

did i fucked up boys

Just picked up the nh d15 last week. Spent many weeks debating over AIO and air. Overall I'm glad with my choice. I figure if I were to go water cooled I'd rather make my own custom loop down the line.

>>60256152
CLC and air coolers dump the same amount of heat into your room because heat is generated by your CPU you fucking retard.

>>60247486

whats the point in this shit having a granny-underwear color?

>>60256310
you'll be pleased to hear my gf leaves the oven door open after she bakes something so that "it heats the house"

>>60256335
Brand recognition. It's just their signature. You can get most of their fans in a more normal color

>>60256039
expensive water cooling > expensive air cooling (slightly) > cheap water cooling > cheap air cooling > Chink water cooling.
FTFY.

>>60249311
>Nice dubs

I've got this cooler, is breddy gud

>>60247486
>water cooling (AIO's included)
>fast memory
>tall memory heatsinks
>expensive high end motherboards
>sli
>crossfire
>ricey gaymur cases
>any razor products

These are symptoms an individual not really knowing what they fuck they are doing. The kind of people who buy into any of the above would likely be entertained by chasing a flashlights beam on a wall for hours as long as their friends were doing it and they had read some article about it on latestbullshittrend.com

>>60249311

3 NZXT pucks have been sent to your account.

>>60247486
Yea sometimes i also hate water coolers because i cant afford them

>>60256979
My mom won't let me buy a water cooler :(

>>60247486
noctua masterrace brofist

>>60247841
Phanteks

>>60248485
Well that's my point about getting the GPU in there.
That's when it starts to make sense in a PC.
My GPU cooler makes more noise than anything close to my office. But when it's in a liquid cooling loop that's quieter than ambient noise, I'm really happy I fell for this "gimmick"

>>60247486
What's the point
faggotry

>>60247841
Thermalright Silver Arrow

>>60247486

Well at least when talking about the AIOs, they can save up some space, that's about the benefit over air.
Still I'd say the main point for their existence is, that people keep on buying them because they think they're better.
I was going for liquid at first myself, but then decided to go for the NH-D15 after looking at the temps and noise levels.
Bro owns the Kraken X61 and while it performs just as well as my Noctua, god dammit that thing is loud even at lower speeds.
Noctua is so quiet that 90% of the time, I can't even tell if my computer is on.

Any other manufacturers that ship out free mounting hardware for future sockets than Noctua?

>>60251678
True

It's fucked up but it works

>>60252213
What the fucking shit is this shit

>>60254341
>AMD poorfag wasting his money on an inferior water cooler

You can't make this shit up

>>60247486
the intel stock fan is good. its quiet and it will not break the board unlike these heavy and huge things.

>>60256152
Better coolers just put more heat into your room

Because they are better at moving the heat from your CPU to the outside

>>60260058
Only correct answer

>>60255856
its not the fans that make noise in computers. hdds are much louder and you cant do anything to those.

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>>60260285
>its not the fans that make noise in computers

>>60247486
AiOs are great for matx
But use them on the GPU not the CPU since that puts out far more heat

>>60260313
most fans are so quiet that its not possible to hear them when you have mechanical storage devices in the computer too.

>>60260215
Take a pic of your build that isn't 15 year old AMD in a cow infested office in India.

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>>60260346
>I'm full of shit!

and how!

>>60260382
Could be one of those builds with no rubber hdd mounts

>>60247841
>what is cryorig
>what is thermalright
>what is a whole fuckin slew of others
for fucks sake, even a thermalright true spirit direct 140 comes within 1-2c of the nh-d15 despite only being a single tower

>>60260475
>comes within 1-2c

That's not better

Just bought a Noctua P12 to pair with my Corsair H55 in my mini-ITX HTPC.

>>60260504
its a single tower, at almost half the price
they have a dual tower too buddy, how do you think that does

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>>60260346
Firstly why would your HDDs be constantly spinning and secondly why would they be constantly seeking (the thing that actually makes noise)?

>>60260740
Built in nsa backdoor.

>>60260740
>buying hdds you don't actually use

Hmm...

>he doesnt cool his pc with liquid nitrogen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmSBaizEqkk