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Just ordered an i7 7700k. I currently have an fx6300.

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Just ordered an i7 7700k. I currently have an fx6300.

What am I in for /g/?
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>>60240247
A CPU that is faster than your current one. Seriously what else is there to it?
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>>60240247
Housefire
>Very original post plz no h8.
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Temperature spikes. Pls don't overclock.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCoP2W4v2v8
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>>60240365
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>>60240247
buy a better cooler to prevent burning even if you don't plan to overclock
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>>60240411
>pay extra for unlocked CPU
>pay extra for overclockable mobo
>pay extra for capable cooler
>4.5 GHz? what do you need 4.4 GHz for?
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>>60240435
>meanwhile at AMD
>Hey can I overclock to 4.3 ghz?
>"4.2 ghz, what do you need 4.1 ghz for?"
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>>60240247
Faster.
But stuttering mess in many games for some mysterious reason. And a housefire just because you opened up a web browser.

Maybe you should cancel it and get a 1600X. Runs so cool and quiet and smooth.
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>>60240442
Dat damage control, fucking KYS
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>>60240448
>But stuttering mess in many games for some mysterious reason
>'many games'
>this meme based on one video of a bunch of neckbeards finding framespikes in one game, gta V, that nobody has been able to replicate so far

Yeah..no
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>>60240442
at least poojeet delivered on the coares.
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>>60240462
The truth is rough on AMD tards
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>>60240470
What's hard about that?
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>>60240480
I dunno, ask Intel why they want a megashekel for a 3.70 GHz 8 core.
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>>60240503
The 8 core of Intel was always a terrible purchase
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>>60240517
that's the joke.
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>>60240523
It's not funny
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>>60240517
>The 8 core of Intel was always a terrible purchase for poor people

FTFY
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>>60240543
>spending double of what you should on a product makes this a great purchase for rich people
You mean for dumb rich people
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>>60240435
yeah, same applies to AMD poozen if you haven't noticed
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>>60240247
Change housefire for another housefire, topkek.
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K stands for overclocked, not unlocked.

It's overclocked out of the box. You shouldn't be overclocking it past the default clocks.
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>>60240619
Wait then why did my i5 4670 and a i5 4670k have the exact same clock speeds, but the latter costed 20$ more?
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>if only Ryzen had better singlle core performance, intel would be dead

Why AMD? You were so close
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>>60240731
>500 bux for an underpowered cpu

no, they were not close
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>>60240731
Because multi-core is the future.

Only thing holding it back is Intel offering benefits to companies to use Intel tools that make it hard to utilize multicore well, but it doesn't matter because single core is "good enough" for most of these tasks.
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>>60240804
Gaymers are the biggest costumers of enthusiastic cpus, meaning single thread performance is still important.
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>>60240247
>What am I in for /g/?
A lot of fun - if you have games to go along with it. Also low encoding times for h265.

>>60240435
>>60240442
Overclocking is over-rated and stupid. You kids will learn that soon enough.

Having a stable computer that just works and doesn't randomly crash because you're overclocking it is valuable. Having a few MHz more isn't.
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>>60240731
The single core deficit will be gone with Pinnacle Ridge in Q1 2018( anywhere from 5-15% faster IPC) , so I have no idea what excuse Intelfags will have then
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Disappointment, because you bought a quad core inferno, instead of ryzen
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>>60240731
Oh no, I'm only getting 195fps instead of 200fps
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>>60240247
cancel it immediately
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>>60240804
>Because multi-core is the future.
Yeah Adoredtv has been saying that for 5 years now, and yet high clockspeed, high IPC i7's still dominate the gamemarket
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I was wondering... should I got for an i7-6700k or 7700k?
I already got the Z motherboard so Ryzen is out.
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>>60240285
this
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>>60240247
>What am I in for /g/?
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>>60240731
It's an entirely new architecture made for a process AMD hasn't used before, with a fraction of R&D funding Intel has available. Given that in all other respects Ryzen is pretty great, lower OC potential seems a pretty small tradeoff.
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>>60241276
As opposed to high clockspeed, high IPC pentiums or i5s? Has everyone forgotten that just three years ago the overclockable pentium was considered a terrific CPU because games didn't use more than 2 cores anyway? Now many games won't even run unless you have at least 4 logical cores.

Games ARE moving towards multicore, even if it isn't happening as quickly as it maybe should.
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>>60240247
>What am I in for /g/?

A CPU that puts AMD's $600 flagship to shame
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>>60240247
one of the best value for money cpus, as much as ryzen shills hate it. it's still faster in like 80% of real life scenarios than any ryzen.
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>>60241372
OP wants something that's best RIGHT NOW. This is what you fucktarded indian street shitters don't understand. The future is right now, that 7700k DESTROYS any AMD cpoo in any game as of 6th of May, 2017. Nobody with higher than 1 digit IQ cares about 2030 when games will use more cores, because by them, both Intel and AMD will have already released CPUs that shit on your ryzen
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>>60241419
by then*
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>>60241419
>both get over 60fps minimums
>neither is good enough for 144Hz

But no, you're right, the 7700k totally DESTROYS the 1700x.
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>>60241433
That 7700k pushes 50 more FPS while operating on half the cores. It doesn't matter how hard you try to defend that indian piece of poo, anyone with a brain will see that Intel is the superior product.
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>>60240247
I hope you play CS;GO at 800x600
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>>60240891
It's hardly unstable if you actually test it for like a day MAX of the multiple years you'll be running your overclock, lets just completely ignore all the old Intel CPUs still competitive today because of their actually ability to maintain a stable overclock.
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>>60241461
Irony is that cs:go benchmark is here lmao>>60241394
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>>60241455
Oh, so you don't understand math. Explains why you'd defend Intel. 99% of people have 60Hz CPUs, so by your own logic there's ZERO reason to spend $300 on an overheating piece of shit when you could get a 1500x for less than $200 and still get more than 60FPS minimums in all the games the 7700k "destroys" Ryzen at.
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>>60241481
>99% of people have 60hz monitors
Source?

Also
>why do u need a 220mph Bugatti when the Prius can do 90mph, u shouldnt go faster then tat anyway i shit in da street xd

Kill yourself pajeet
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>>60241496
>I still don't understand math
You're just butthurt because you bought a housefire. Kill yourself intelshill.
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>>60241496
Don't you have homework to do. You only show up after school lets out in America.
You could really use the further education.
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>>60241506
Talking about math when you shit on the street. Leave STEM fielda for white people, it's too complex for your poo brain
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>>60241514
Nice changing subjects to some random poo when proven your indian cpoo is..well..poo
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>>60241531
As expected. You keep stuttering. Can't have that for any serious game. Leta-lone encoding. Random crash much?
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>>60240247
delid this
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>>60241516
Said the filthy jew.
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>>60241407
Flip that around. The 7700k beats the ryzens only in gaming. Ryzen 7, hell even ryzen 5, destroy the i7 in anything else.
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>>60241615
>7700k beats the ryzens only in gaming
Even then not by much in most cases.
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>>60241621
>300 more fps in cs:go, overwatch, dota, leage of legends
>over 40% more fps in any other game
>indian mathematicians
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>>60241635
Yet it doesn't report the dropped frames when it stutters.
https://youtu.be/gUNAvkY6Ops?t=414
So the performance is actually much lower than what's reported.
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>>60241681
>same single benchmark in gta v which no one's been able to reproduce

You already posted this 5 times just in this thread poojet
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>>60241701
That hippie at Gamers' Nexus must have stopped being your hero when he admitted the i5 line is dead, huh.
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>>60241701
No I haven't. And it's reproducible.
You suck at this.
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>>60241712
Even that incompetent fuck Salazar caved in.

Tom's still going strong I see, but Tom's isn't a individual
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>>60241713
>january benchmark

Nice day 1 results you lying indians
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>>60241336
24% load 85C wtf?
My 1600X stays under 50C when it's at 25% load on 50% more cores.
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>>60241744
He didn't delid it yet
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>>60241713
Never mind lmao

>The 2500K overclocked did OK because its average stayed close to 130FPS or below, but going over 160-170FPS causes stuttering.

>needing to show a cherrypicked benchmark of a 10 year old i5 to prove your indian cpu is worth a shit

You are sad
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Does this guy ever sleep? Or is it a bot?
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>>60241742
The i7 stutters, schlomo. And the benching utility's in GTA don't report the dropped frames.
This is like measuring someone's height while they have still got shoes on and wearing a 10 gallon hat.
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>>60241772
Stop giving him attention you retarded shit, you're being played with.
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>>60241764
>we did this with i7's and blah blah blah
SAME RESULTS
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>>60241772
Source? All you have is indian lies and a video of a 10 year old i5 that stutters only at over 150 fps
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>>60240247
>fx6300 to i7 7700
Confirmed a upgrade, have fun and forget what everyone said.
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>>60240480
Everything. Dumb goyim pay for 4 cores. $330 vs $1000 for 8 cores. AMD designed ZEN as a server chip with high efficiency and thus they won't clock high. If AMD decided to create a desktop housefire like the 7700k we could see 8 cores drawing 500w @ 5ghz too. Just need some LN2 and a container.
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>>60241336
Aircooled 7700k here
I have never seen mine go over 62C under load
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>>60241828
Except that shit catches fire and turns into a shitshow (literally) if you try 4.2
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>>60241836
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>>60240571
Unfortunately true, but at least the new ones burn brighter.
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>>60241842
>t. butthurt NEET with Athlon II
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>>60241372
Can this meme die? I believed it and brought the FX-4100 years ago.

As for OP. he's in for a processor that he won't even have to think about, it just works, seamlessly does anything he needs it to.
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>>60241836
Maybe if you actually used it the paste would have shit its self by now.
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>>60240731
Who gives a shit? Only gamer kiddies do, I won't be losing any sleep over getting 5 fewer FPS in muh vidya gaems while it shits on everything multi-tasking that Intel can offer
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>>60241853
define "actually used it"
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>>60241850
It's not a meme anymore, just look at how i5 compares to i7 in recent games. Games ARE getting better threaded, it just happened too late for Bulldozer family.
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>>60241848
I have a 1600X. My heatsink is cold to the touch.
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>>60241862
Banging it at 100% usage for 3-5 hours a day.
Mind you these are still now. It's only time before yours drys out.
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>>60241836
Delid it and install a NZXT Kraken x62, you might hit 5.3 ghz, if it doesn't work go for 5.2, it will be 100% stable
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>>60241871
>heatsink
P E A S A N T
E
A
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A
N
T
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>>60241879
Why the fuck would you do that? There's useful software in the world that makes a pc stress like that. I can play vidya like GTA 5 for hours on end making it go from 60% to 80% and temps stay in the low 60C
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>>60241871
So is my 7700k
What's your point?
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>>60241880
>58.9FPS at 65% CPU utilization
>at 5.3GHz
why is it so garbage?
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>>60241880
That's the most homoerotic benchmark I've ever seen.
>delid
Then crush the die installing the cooler. Thanks Intel!
>>60241898
Because there's people that top out their usage with other things in between gaming.
Tick tock.It's only time before yours becomes a housefire.
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>>60241904
You got lucky.
No one has a problem where they need to delid their Ryzen. Tons of people have problems with the 7700k STOCK.
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>>60241924
If you have hardware troubles why the fuck would you be a smartass and try to fix it yourself. just RTS and you have a new one. Just because you can doesn't mean you should
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>le poo meme xD

Is that all you spew out?
t. Wolfdale Corelet
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>>60240247
A way faster CPU in every way, but also house fires. The FX series do suck a lot of power, but they weren't particular hot running. Kaby Lake on with other hand...
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>>60241920
>crush the die
Are you retarded?
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>>60241954
Crush, chip, destroy. All the same thing resulting in broken silicon.
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>>60241920
>using gaming CPU's for heavy duty tasks
In that case you're asking for it. If you really need that much computing power invest in a good server CPU
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>>60241948
>The FX series do suck a lot of power, but they weren't particular hot running.


Rrrrrright.....

p.s x4 810, 1050t, 6300 owner
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>>60241879
why would you use a cpu in such a way that it takes 100%? thats like going max RPM with your car in first gear
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>>60241419
Do I read it correctly that the 97th percentile is just shaving the very highest frame rate moments off the data sheet so as to get a more accurate representation of what the experience is actually like?
And that the top 3% rates are so high they completely blow up the numbers.
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>>60241971
Just pointing out why these problems are starting to come up now. Before the rush happens of people complaining about 7700k's hitting 90c wat do /g/, in a month or two.
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>>60241948
Intel doesn't consider the CPU hitting 80C at 25% load as an issue covered under warranty. You can't just keep returning dozens of CPUs to the retailer until you get one that works correctly without them telling you to fuck off.

>>60241990
this is screenshot worthy stupidity.
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>>60241971
A "good" server CPU is a 12+ core which run at abysmal clocks, not to mention grossly overpriced both mobo and CPU, there are benches out there against dual 10 core Xeons with Ryzen beating them in tasks that scale up to 500k cores like NAMD

Server CPUs can't be judged by consumer CPU standards.
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>>60242003
/g/ is filled with morons who think they know hardware because they can read newegg specs and read benchmarks, while having the slightest idea of what the cpu's designed to do.
They're the kind of people that blame their car for being too fast when they get a ticket
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>>60242009
If you're so smart, prove me wrong.
Show me something that is you NEED to do that makes your CPU go 100%.
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>all this falseflagging and shilling.
I hope you guys really get paid.

I bought the shitty 7700k on a whim but never intended to overclock before i hit the 100 percent usage. So i will see what happens. But keep shitflinging niggers.
And fuck intel for such a statement.
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>>60241394
>only 300 fps
>AMD bankrupt and finished!
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>>60240247
It's a good chip
Get a good cooler because that TIM is going to be overworked, and will need all the help it can get
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>>60242050
No need, unless you're getting payed.
But at 100% you're getting shit done sooner rather than later. Something today than something finished in three.
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>>60242050
Why would you buy a CPU like that if you don't actually plan to use it?
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>>60240247
It wont fit your motherboard.
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>>60242057
Funny because mine stays between 60% and 70% in Mafia 3 at 4k. You don't even have a 7700k you lying indian shitskin
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>>60242072
Do you drive max speed with your car?
I use it for gaming and work. I like buying CPU's that aren't completely useless in a few years time
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>kind of tempted by the price/performance of the ryzen
>then i remember im not poor
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>>60242095
Get a 6950X
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>>60242081
Are you sure faggot?
Keep living in your own world.
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>>60242083
Not everyone is a poor indian. Some people just want to most performance even it if costs $20 more. If the 7740k does 6ghz on water, I'm upgrading from a 5.3 7700k
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>>60242095
get POWER 8 or are you too poor for 8 threads per core?
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>>60242112
Kek
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>>60242112
That sounds really poor, bragging about $300 electronics.

You know what's not poor? Buying a $1500 laptop you barely use or buying $2000 worth of tools you never use
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>>60242159
You'll be poor if you continue wasting money like that
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>>60242159
Show me a single case where any CPU that exists, regardless of the price, pushes more frames per second than a $350 7700K, excluding poo in loo benchmarks with GPU bottlenecks
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>>60242177
Considering I make more money than I spend that's not gonna be an issue.
So unless VAT goes up by +40% on products overnight I'm likely not gonna become poor.
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>>60242183
>excluding poo in loo benchmarks with GPU bottlenecks

But why doesn't your 7700k push more frames with a GPU bottleneck? Are you that poor that you still play at 1080p?
GPU bottleneck will always be there, resolutions and graphic requirements move faster than GPU hardware
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>>60242202
Are you retarded or just stupid?
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>>60242183
>buy a 1080ti to play at low resolution

This is some bronx-tier poverty
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>>60242081
>at 4k
>when GPU bottlenecked
???????????///////////////////
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>>60242207
Are you too poor to get a good screen?
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>>60242081
>>60242183
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>>60242219
GPU bottleneck indeed, a 1080ti costs over $1000
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>>60242228
lol the 1700X is better than that stuttering corelet piece of shit housefire
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>>60242213
Reminds me of niggers getting a loan to buy a iPhone but live under a bridge in a box
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>>60242228
I said no GPU bottlenecks you dumb street shitter
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>>60242249
lol? How is that GPU bottlenecked. It's at 1080p

If it was GPU bottlenecked, the 1700X wouldn't be so much higher than the 7700k that can't even average 100fps.

>links far cry primal, the worst programmed game since FO4.
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>>60240247
Enjoy the real male power:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-AMD-FX-6300/3647vs1555
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>>60242234
Is that in Mongolian Dollars?
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>>60242260
Ignore the braindead shill, he has buyer's remorse.
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That retarded shill is anally devastated his housefire abortion is complete shit at everything. It's funny seeing him get so triggered.
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>>60242260
Rx 580 is a bottleneck even at 720p
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>>60242284
Your brain is a bottleneck at real life.
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>>60242296
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>>60242284
Wow.

I think I'm gonna report you now.
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>>60240619
You're fucking retarded. The turbo boost on most of Intel's unlocked processors is weaker than the locked ones, so by not overclocking a K series you're probably wasting money.
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>>60242311
>>60242322
>the current state of /g/
You learned a lot in those /v/ threads
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1080p60 high/med = pentium
1080p60 ultra = r5 1600
1080p144 med = r5 1600
1080p144 ultra = i7 7700k
1440p60 = r7 1700 / i7 7700k
1440p144 = i7 7700k
4k UHD 60= r7 1700 / i7 7700k

There we go no shut the fuck up and stop arguing with shills and morons.
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>>60242249
>rypoo below an i3
Top kek
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>>60242401
>1080p60 high/med = pentium
>1080p60 ultra =i5 7500
>1080p144 med = i5 7600k
>1080p144 ultra = i7 7700k
>1440p60 = i7 7700k
>1440p144 = i7 7700k
>4k UHD 60= i7 7700k

Fixed
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>>60240247
>fx6300
You're in for a pretty big fucking upgrade from that Bulldozer arch piece of fucking shit.

You should have waited another couple of months though so you could see what Coffe Lake, Skylake-X offered when compared to AMD's Ryzen CPUs.
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>>60242418
JUST
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>>60242418
>>60242446
DELET THIS
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Reminder to kindly report spamming shills for the improvement of the board.
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>>60242434
>seriously suggesting that anyone should buy an i5

You're either shilling or genuinely retarded. Either way you should kill yourself.
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>>60242475
This popular reviewer recommends them too


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-cpu-review,5014-5.html
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>>60242475

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpus,3986.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpus,3986.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpus,3986.html


i5's are recommended by industry reviewers for gaming, you're wrong and he's right
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>>60242491
Yeah, because Tom's Hardware is TOTALLY known for being unbiased.
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>>60242502
I believe a industry reviewer and not a shill like you, millions of others believe them as well, you lose retard
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>No CPU currently in the market can run GTA IV without dropping below 60FPS at any given time.

My next CPU will be the one capable of this.
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>>60242514
According to the biggest "industry reviewer" that will soon update its Q2 CPU chart, Intel is dead in the water.
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>7500k shown to outperform ryzen where it matters (gaming)
>b.but you can totally stream minecraft at 200 fps to your 3 viewers while encoding videos for your 6 subscriber youtube channel

Advanced Millennial Devices
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>>60242502
>standardized in game benchmark tools are biased
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>>60242548
>gaming
>matters

This website is for 18+ only.
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>>60242491
Those comments, even their own readers don't buy their shit, and most of these comments are people who don't even know what Tom recommended when Netburst and K8 were out
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>>60242548
i5's are the best slideshow CPU
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>>60240891
Nothing wrong with a moderate overclock
Just don't go too far or power consumption will skyrocket once you require higher voltages
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>>60241336
>24% load
>85C
gosh
>a similar load, under 40C
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>>60242491
BUY PENTIUM 4 GOY
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>>60242587
p-p-p-p-please d-d-delet
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>>60242587
Gee, I wonder why witcher 3 is better on Intel
Even at highest settings and with a fully maxed out GPU, AMD is always about 5fps behind intel
I wonder (((who))) could be behind this
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>>60242587
ITS LIKE ANUDDA SHOAH
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>>60242514
Read the comments, nobody actually believes them.
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>>60242587
THIS CANNOT BE HAPPENING
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Think we're arguing with a bot? Day in and day out he gets demolished and still comes back every day.
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>>60242665
But the intel cpu is way less consistent and has some long frametimes.
Averages don't mean shit
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>>60242188
That or the company you work for realizes you're as useless as any tool that belongs to you.
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>>60242694
>Ryzen 1400

Nobody should be buying that shit and it's still better than poorfag i3's
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>>60242587
>testing CPUs
>by bottlenecking them with a poo GPOO

Only an indian could be this stupid
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>>60242709
Damn, I guess there are reasons why those X Ryzens are slightly more expensive even when non-X can overclock similarly.

Those cache differences will show their teeth in the years ahead.
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>>60240619

K is the unlocked multiplier model you faggot nigger
>>
Reminder to report filthy kikes.
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>>60242742
And smelly shitskins
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>>60242742
I agree, he already got banned a few times, it'll happen again.
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>>60242733
The 1400 is the only one with less cache.
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>thread about a guy who bought nothing telling /g/ how he bought something and asking /g/ AFTER the fact

Right
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>>60242772
There's large differences in latency between the 1600x and 1600 as well, especially the 6-8MB(which is the max of a single CCX without the last 2MB being occupied by L2 data)
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>>60242788
>streetshitter literally cannot comprehend someone having enough money to spend on a $300 CPU
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>>60242813
Mhmm, I think this defensiveness is the cause of some kind of psychological phenomenon
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>>60242813
>corelet housefire poorfag
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>>60242836
I'll chalk it up as a bot since nobody can be this desperate or masochistic about CPUs
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>>60242694
Why is Intel so shit at literally everything

Why are people defending such abortions
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>>60242841
>kaby lake hits 60c at 4.6-5ghz so pajeets call it a housefire


And what temp does ryzen hit at these clockspeeds?
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>>60242867
9000 kelvin
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>>60242867
-200c. Currently the record holder for clock of that chip type.
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>>60242867
MOAR GIGAHURTZ
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>>60242867
I suppose the accusation is that at least the Ryzen chip can be cooled when clocked as high as it can go.
>It can't even reach those MHz
No no Intel wins that no doubt. But what about when it can and Intel is still using tooth paste for TIM
You're all a bunch of shills who have good points and no points at the same time
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>>60240731
btfo
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>>60242954
clocklets btfo
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>>60240731
>R9-290x_breakfast
That's clearly not an R9...
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>>60242954
hoe-lee-chit
ayymd btfo
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>>60242985
Fermi
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>>60240465
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>>60242985
It's a GTX 480
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>>60240891
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>>60241276
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>>60241394
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>>60241419
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>>60241455
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>>60242260
you are actually retarded
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>>60241496
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>>60243021
>making fun of intel overclockers
>when your chip can't even reach 7700k base clock without suicide voltages

LMFAO
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>>60241516
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>>60241701
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>>60241742
>>
Why is it always the same fucking shit with these people

>AMD fans post GPU bottlenecked benchmarks (games that aren't heavy on the CPU) like DOOM 2016, Tomb Raider, Deus Ex MD and whatever
>performance seems to be about the same as a 7600k-7700k
>run any fucking CPU intensive game
>Ryzen bottlenecks a strong GPU like the piece of shit it is

It's fucking laughable really.
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>>60241788
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>>60241948
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>>60243059
It's almost like high core parts overclock worse or something.
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>>60243078
Because you're delusional. Please seek help.
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>>60243078
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>>60243059
>>
>>60243095
Is the Broadwell-E using TIM?
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>>60243149
Nah, but you still need a water loop to push it to 4.2/4.3 and a very beefy motherboard, bitch uses insane amounts of power.
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>>60243149
Nope, all the HEDT lines are soldered at least so far.
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>>60241419
>directx11

You said right now, not 5 years ago
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>>60243043
>5Ghz shoah
>3 times the power consumption
>requires a huge liquid cooler to prevent it from melting the socket
>still weaker than ryzen
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>>60240411
holy shit that cancer font rendering
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>>60243043
>>60243239

These tests aren't fair, you can't bench a CPU with a 1070 properly
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>>60243252
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>>60243252
Because SLI 1080's at 800x600 is very useful data, right?
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>>60243252
If it's GPU bottlenecked so hard, why are the minimum FPS on the 7700k so bad in half the games?
If there is such an extreme bottleneck, it should stay smooth.
Virtually everyone plays at a GPU bottleneck.
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>>60243265
>>60243270
Retards don't understand a GPU bottleneck!
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>>60240285
DELID THIS
>>60240543
I suppose you went for Fyre Festival?
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>>60243273
We understand a GPU bottleneck.

You're the retard that doesn't understand that games are more graphically intensive, will generally be GPU bottlenecked, and if a CPU performs better with a GPU bottleneck then it is just plain better.
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>>60243273
If you wanna test CPU performance, test it in CPU tests, not completely useless drawcall and clockspeed tests like low res games with overkill GPUs.

Fact is that nobody but CS:GO pros plays like that, you're not gonna be using a 1080ti and 1080p and you're not gonna be using a 1070 and 800x600
>>
I have an i5-6600. Would it be worthwile to get an i7-7700(k)? Or an i5-7600(k)? Or would it be too little performance gain for the money?
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>>60243273
I understand that you're absolutely retarded if you think a CPU performing at 720p is gonna replicate future performance or 1440p/4k performance
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>>60240472
cant wait to see that 3.6 coffee lake
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>>60243286
You don't tell me what I use! Radeon RX 580 is already a bottleneck at 720p for good CPUs, meaning a 1080ti is perfect for 1080p
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>>60243309
>>haha I'm gonna pop in my 6 core coffee into my $160 Z board and overclock it to the sky
>WHIIIIIIIIR
>*snap* *crackle* *pop*
>"We recommend not overclocking Intel CPUs - Intel"
>THIS IS ALL AMD'S FAULT!
>>
>LE AMD CLOCKS ARE LOW BECAUSE OF MORE CORES
>Intels 10 core CPU still clocks higher than AMDs 8 core CPU

Just sad
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>>60243334
That's not going to work on Z170 or Z270 board. It'll be a new chipset.
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>>60243383
coffeelake is not a new arch, Intel keeps the same socket for dieshrinks and identical uarch releases
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>>60243396
Intel never does 3 generations on one socket.
And 6 core just isn't going to work on LGA1151.

People need to keep dreaming and keep thinking Intel will give them something worthwhile.
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>>60243440
>And 6 core just isn't going to work on LGA1151.
why?
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>>60241755
Having to delid a "enthusiast" cpu in the first place
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>>60243440
They haven't abolished tick-tock cycle before, either.
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>yfw AMD fanboys can only resort to memes to make themselves better.

>in reality 7700k is the best gaming cpu and pretty much every benchmark out there shows it.

Well what did you expect when poozen doesn't even clock past 4.1 ghz.
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>>60243293
Get an R5 1600x or overclock a 1600 rather than getting a 7600k, and definitely get the 1600 over the 7600 non-k.

The 7700k is only better than a Ryzen if you are willing to trade away significant multi-threaded performance for absolute maximum FPS in games in the short term, and understand you are likely buying the trail-off period as even Intel are moving to 6c and 8c consumer CPUs in the near future.
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>>60243381
Too bad it's not any faster than AMD's 8-core, especially considering its maximum hebrew price. See >>60243108
>>
If you're overclocking please buy our overclocking protection

https://click.intel.com/tuningplan/purchase-a-plan
>>
whats the point of frame past what your monitor refresh is exactly?
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>>60243538
less input lag
the frame that is shown will be more recent
>>
Threadly reminder to report rabies.
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>>60243511
Yeah 7700k is pretty much corelet garbage, 1700X is much better and smoother
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>>60243545
Get a 240hz monitor, 2 1080tis and a 7700k
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>>60243540
are you a redditor or something
just leave this board man, do you even watch your posts once you've posted them?
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>>60243555
He literally has buyer's remorse.
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>>60243540
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>>60243564
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>>60243555
toplol he deleted his post
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>>60243568
Looks like get back to youtube.
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>>60243545

uh, no

that's not how displays work
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>>60243586
Get back to the designated shitting street
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>>60243568
Is this where we pretend corelets aren't stutttering garbage?
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>>60243594
i'm just parotting what i heard anon
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>>60241419
>OP wants something that's best RIGHT NOW. This is what you fucktarded indian street shitters don't understand. The future is right now, that 7700k DESTROYS any AMD cpoo in any game as of 6th of May, 2017. Nobody with higher than 1 digit IQ cares about 2030 when games will use more cores, because by them, both Intel and AMD will have already released CPUs that shit on your ryzen
>>60243540
>He wants something that's best RIGHT NOW. This is what you fucktarded indian street shitters don't understand. The future is right now, that 7700k DESTROYS any AMD cpoo in any game as of 6th of May, 2017. Nobody with higher than 1 digit IQ cares about 2030 when games will use more cores, because by them, both Intel and AMD will have already released CPUs that shit on your ryzen
...
You deleted the duplicate because it's obvious it's from a script.
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>>60243613
>you realized you're arguing with a shill bot
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>>60243627
No, not a bot. A fuck head with packages of responses.
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>>60243607
Eww amd
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>>60243080
>>60243068
>>60243004
Why is Intel such a stuttering piece of shit? No wonder everyone says Ryzen is better and smoother in gayming.
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>>60243613
Same stupid argument deserves same response
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>>60243494
>ss--s-s-st-stuttering is b-b-b-best
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>>60243551
>1700x
>4.1 ghz
LOL
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>>60243674
d-d-d-d-elet t-t-t-this
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:^3
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>>60243674
>l-l-l-ow framerates and 2005 c-clockspeeds a-are the b-best
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>>60243598
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Stutter doesn't exist bro


t. TPU
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>>60243681
Nice Pentium 4 logic
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>>60243707
AMD sponsored game
>>60243706
Shit resolution
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>>60243688
>1700X
Literally the most retarded choice. Why not 1700 and overclocking or 1800X if you want to waste your money?
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>>60243706
CHOKING IN MY SKIN

lol intel is shit at everything
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>>60243568
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>>60243718
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>>60243688
Unless you got that 1700X on sale you'd be better off with a 1700 and overclocking it.
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>>60243688
:^>
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>>60243722
I bought the 1700X with the mindset that it is prolly better silicon.
Some people have shown that the 1700 /can/ overclock to 4.0, but most of the time can't.
On the other hand the 1800X can easily reach 4.0.
With that logic the 1700X feels like a good middle ground, but that could just be some retarded buyer's remorse that is setting in.
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>>60243661
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>>60243707
WTF pootel is complete shit
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>>60241915
Ryzen would've have 40 fps on 30%, you decide if it's worth it with the extra cores.
>>
For a competitive CPU it sure is terrible in multiplayer.

https://i.4cdn.org/g/1494074403406.png
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>>60240442
Lel you're lucky to even reach 3.9ghz if you didn't buy the overpriced binned ones.
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>>60240247
house fire
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>>60243004
Nice cherry picking based on one test, here you go amdrone https://youtu.be/TDvk9_iTq6Y
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>>60243835
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>>60243762
POOTEL STUTTERING HOUSEFIRES
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>>60243850
Stop shitting up /g/ by responding to that faggot, holy shit you people are so easily baited.
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>>60243835
Intel stutter in every reviewer benchmark

some shill just opt to not show min fps
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>>60240891
>Overclocking is over-rated and stupid. You kids will learn that soon enough.
>you kids
Get aload of this faggot.

I've been running an oc'd 2600k stable for the last 2 years.

If you can't achieve a stable overclock on a cpu that just shows you're an idiot who's tech illiterate
>>
>>60243895
>t-this benchmark d-doesn't count!
>shill!
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>>60243929
I wish I got a 2600k instead of the 2500k. I wouldn't have needed to upgrade yet if I hadn't made that mistake.

Not as bad as the retards who bought i5-6500s and i5-7600ks and shit when it was clear that 4 threads was done with already.
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>>60240247
Never ever listen to overclocker faggots, you DON'T need to overclock and WON'T need to even in 5-6 years from now.
Just enjoy your new powerful computer doing meaningful things (atleast for you)
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>>60243943
Post pic shill, i dont want to give that fag more view
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>>60243929
>I only have my PC running for 5 hours then turn it off.

Overclocking is shit, why do you think the highest single thread performance Xeon is around 3.5GHz instead of 4.5? Because high clocks have accuracy issues and signal clarity is a bitch, not even mentioning the non-linear voltage/clock curve which leads to higher power.

So yes, only children need overclocking.
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>>60243955
So pick up a used 2600k and sell your 2500k

It's what I did, and haven't regretted it a seconds, costs you maybe 50 bucks if you sell your 2500k and it's a significant upgrade
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>>60243971
>why do you think the highest single thread performance Xeon is around 3.5GHz instead of 4.5?

Because Xeons are enterprise class cpu's that are used for other purposes than gaming you absolute fucking troglodyte
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>>60243809
>firelake
>stutterlake
>delidlake
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>>60243960
What's the matter pussy, too afraid to overclock?
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>>60243983

which is what the fuck he just said
>>
>all these memes of stuttering on the kaby lake chips
what the fuck is this shit that you guys keep flinging? How is it that on my 7600k I've never had stuttering issues yet people say it happens all the time?
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>>60243239
S-s-s-s-s-shut u-u-up g-g-g-g-goy
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>>60243972
Not worth doing that at this point. I got a 1600X.
I have the money. It was just inconvenient dealing with the 2500k becoming shitty the past like year or two while I waited for Zen.
If I knew it was going to take so long, yeah maybe I should have swapped out to the 2600k or 3770k if my mobo supported it 2 years ago.
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>>60243996
So how is that fucking relevant when 99.99 percent of the people buying the cpu's we are talking about buy them for gaming?
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>>60240247
>What am I in for /g/?
A CPU that every tech retard and their mom claims can hit 4.8+ GHz no problem
A CPU that you will lose the silicon lottery on and won't be able to go over 4.7. (It boosts to 4.5)
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>>60243997
i5's are fine, no stutter there.
>>
The 7700k is fine for now but I'd have waited for the entry level 6 core sky lake extreme. Twice the memory bandwidth, more lanes for multiGPU and RAID x4 SSD, similar IPC but more cores/threads better suited to high res textures in 4k.
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>>60244009

because overclocking isn't required for gaming
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>>60244009
Is there where the "X% of statistics are all lies" meme goes in?
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>>60244041
Nobody says it is required, but it does increase performance.

Not overclocking basically means leaving free performance on the table.
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>>60244038
You're not gonna get clocks over Broadwell on Skylake-X because of its 1MB L2 cache
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>>60244025
so is it just in like GTAV that this happens or something?
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>>60244054

>free performance
>have to pay to get it
>>
Ryzen literally BTFO'd Intel teebeeh
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>>60244064
Even in this shitty DX12 game which clearly favored Intel the i5's are terrible.
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>>60244102
>>60244025
MORE EXPENSIVE CPUS ARE FASTER WHOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAA


AMD fucking shills
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>>60243960
Gee. I wonder why a bunch of people suddenly started saying that no one needs to overclock?

It's truly a mystery.
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>>60244089
>pay 30 bucks extra for 20% performance increase
>"Oh vey I will not stand for this"
>>
I'm sick and tired of AMD indians shitting up our business here.
>>
>>60244064
Gta V are stutter fest for intel
It happen in most game, some a bit harder to replicate
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>>60244136
Actualy outside of GTA V nobody has been able to replicate it
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>>60244120
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>>60244116
You really wanna talk about price? When you can put overcock a 1600 to a 1600X easily on a stock cooler with a $90 motherboard?

What about a 1700 on the same motherboard still overclockable to 3.9/3.8 and 4.0 with good silicon on a stock cooler, again with the same shitty $90 motherboard

You really wanna go there? Want me to include delid , AIO and warranty costs for the Intel?
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>>60244136
I know its just my personal experience, but I play6 GRW, titanfall 2, Dark souls 3, Overwatch, and tons of other gamers regularly and I don't have any stutter.
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>>60244158
Frametime graphs seem to point the opposite, I guess they're all wrong.

But if you're enjoying your CPU then I see no problem, continue.
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>>60244158
>actualy taking memes seriously
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>>60244171
Alright lets see those graphs for the games he mentioned
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>>60244136
Well yeah everyone keeps saying Ryzen is much better and smoother overall.
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>>60244171
What other frametime graphs are there that prove it in games outside of GTAV and RotR that got posted here? I mean theres that one AMD picture with like hitman or something, but that's all I've seen.

>>60244172
Yeah shame on me.
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>>60244181
>everyone
No they don't pajeet
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>>60244189
Read the thread
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>>60242522
The Phenom II X4 955 doesn't have this problem.
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>>60244209
Lol, he has no graphs
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>>60244193
You don't have to be so buttmad over facts.
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>>60244152
More single thread perf = better at gaming = more sales = poo in loo pajeet AMD goes bankrupt soon anyway
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>>60244180
>Alright lets see those graphs for the games he mentioned
Nobody benchmarks those games, at least not with frametime graphs.

I'll try to find something, but in the meantime this is the i5(at 5.0GHz) situation
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>>60244230
You mad pajeet?
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>>60244236
I have no reason to be mad over pootel stuttering housefires.
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>>60244234
Holy fuck who delids a i5 and sticks a AIO on it
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>>60244234
AHAHAHHA look at the spikes on the Witcher 3 on the Rypoo cpu
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>>60244144
But you can see the effect on the min fps. it definitely there
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>>60244234
POOTEL
STUTTERING
HOUSEFIRES
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>>60244251
>Poojeet mad his cpu can't oc past 2005 cores speeds
>>60244255
Show it then
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>>60244234
>7600k at 5.0

What the fuck
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>>60244234
Why is Nvidia so shit? Literally worse frametimes on both CPUs
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>>60244292
>meanwhile in reality
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>>60244268
>Show it then
Show what, all review show ryzen getting better min. it since day one
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>>60244292
Because they dont want to waste money on R&D and would rather revisit maxwell for 15th time.
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How can anyone live in this stuttering reality?
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>>60244234
what the FUCK is a frametime
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>>60244268
Your buyer's remorse is entertaining.
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>>60244314
2014 called, they want you back.
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>>60244302
You sure about that Poojeet?
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>>60244314
Frame/Time
aka how long does one frame stick on a screen.
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>>60244234
What's going on with Nvidia's drivers lately? If I didn't know any better I'd say they went to complete shit in the last 2 years
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>>60244322
>buyers remorse
>implying I'm not running an oc'd for 2600k for who knows how many years now

Yeah...no
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>>60244309
>>60244234
>>60244102
>>60244025
Stuttering piece of shit housefire
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>>60244349
>oc'd for 2600k
What a piece of shit, no M2, no native USB3, no USB3.1.

I don't even know if that supports PCIe3.0, it probably does.
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>>60244054
Intel has already cranked up the clocks on the 7700k that OC'ing any further would be less power efficient and require substantial cooling. Then again, this is memeland and you're probably going to stick an Evo 212+ on there, right?
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>>60244349
My condolences.
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>>60244325
I say min fps not 1% fag

you can hide stutter using 1% low and 0.1%
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>>60244370
>I don't even know if that supports PCIe3.0, it probably does.
It doesn't lol
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>>60244325
According to that, the stock 7700k is faster than the 5.1 7700k and the 6700k is slower than a 7600k

Lol, do you even read the garbage you post?
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>>60244414
They probably copypaste old numbers into new graphs since they're lazy niggers.
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>>60244436
If I was a reviewer I'd do that too, but change results 1/2%+ from time to time.

My readership are idiots, so they won't care or know, even if someone calls me out on it, my dear simple minded sheep will defend me
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>>60244234
So basically crysis and witcher 3 get the frametimes drop bad. seems not so bad, Witcher played smoother than that for me, but maybe it's because I'm not using one of those GPUs, just on the r9 290. Has anyone shown the frametimes with a better GPU like the 1080 or 1070 or something like that?

I mean I guess it stutters some, I can't tell anything like that in the games I play if it even exists for them. Funnily enough, my S.O.'s laptop has a 7700HQ and a 1060 in it and its arguably smoother.
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>>60244468
>7700HQ
That's a better CPU than your 7600k
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>>60244488
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7600K/m211019vs3885

Not sure about that, it's still a laptop part.
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>>60242249
I said no Nvidia driver gimping you Jewtel foreskin butcher.
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>>60244507
Firstly, That's a terrible benchmark site.
Secondly, no amount of clockspeed will help you when you're thread choked, the 8 threads have more breathing room even if they're lower clocked.
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>>60244538
Yeah the other would pull ahead in multithreaded stuff for sure. I think its mostly because the screen is Gsync as well, I'm just using a normal monitor.

I also think its a 6700HQ, not the 7700HQ, but I'm not exactly sure what model of laptop it is.

also why is it a terrible bench site? Not saying you're wrong, I just don't know why.
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>i5's get demolished in virgin clean Windows installs without anything running in the background

>i5's wouldn't even be usable in a older Windows install with a browser, chat, steam, music, updates etc running in the background

I've seen some i5 tests recently with a clean environment and one running normally shit you'd see on a desktop, the min frames fucking tanked by over 20%
I'll try to find it now, but it was pretty hilarious
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>>60244567
>also why is it a terrible bench site? Not saying you're wrong, I just don't know why.
It puts far too much emphasis on certain tests and its gaming tests aren't even gaming tests, but running purely off API performance without any engine glue, and anyone can tell you that's in no way representative of actual gaming performance.
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>>60240442
>tfw the stores here have only 10 shitty board models for amd
intel has much more boards to choose from..
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>>60244958
and all the available amd boards are disgusting gaming shit. i just want a normal looking board without huge gay heatsinks and stupid images printed on the board.
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>>60243892
>stop disproving me wahhh!!!
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>>60244468
>on the r9 290.
Yeah, that will get you less stuttering. nVidia had has issues for years.
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>>60244254
You mean with Nvidia gimpworks driver gimping it?
It's fine with the RX480. Much smoother than the i5 is with either GPU.

Dumbass. You have no clue what you're looking at, but you comment anyway.
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>>60241394
>IMG_
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>>60241742
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>>60241880
>IMG_
>>60242249
>IMG_
>>60242458
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>>60243568
>IMG_
>>60243598
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>>60243661
>IMG_

Go away IMG_xxxx
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>>60244468
>S.O.'s laptop has a 7700HQ and a 1060 in it and its arguably smoother.
Having 8 threads makes things smoother for most recent games, as you can see in that above tests.
Averages won't be as high, but minimums will be better and minimums are what matters.
The stock 4.2GHz 7700 non-k is better than a 5GHz overclocked 7600k on average in gaming.

But yes, BF1 is fine on the 4c/4t. It's still not AS tight as the 1600, but it's not awful like the others.
It's not terrible for Hitman either, but again: it's still not as tight and smooth.
It shows that even when it's not a stuttering mess, it's still not nearly as good.

4c/4t is just fucking garbage at the prices cucks buy them for off Intel. It's indefensible garbage.
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CPU's should be tested at realistic gamer configurations that 'THE MAJORITY' have at their disposal. Not everyone can afford a 1080Ti. Most gamers have much lower specs. If I was buying a GPU and CPU combo right now I would want to know what they run like in mid range setups (Ryzen 1600+1070 or small Vega when it comes along). Everything that is the top end does nothing to show how things would look on a mid range system. Testing should be done on 'high' preset in games without touching any of the settings.
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>>60243024
This was tested with a 970 IIRC, so okay midrange test equalling a 1060/480
It's weird how Intel is usually some 1/2% faster at 1080p but starts losing equaling to losing 5-10% on 1440p and even worse on 4k

This isn't a simple matter of GPU bottleneck, they'd perform the same in that case, it's almost like Ryzen can do more at those resolutions even though the CPU load isn't increasing.
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>>60244347
>Implying it wasn't planned to show Ryzen in a bad light.
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>>60245901
The most this will do is invite a shitstorm once Vega hits and a 1080ti is performing like a 1080 with Ryzen
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>>60245868
The 970 is the most used GPU in the last few years. It is a relevant test simply because of this and is relevant for anyone wishing to upgrade to a midrange motherboard/CPU combo without going over budget on a new GPU.
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>>60245947
It's a valid test, I'm not denying that. But I wonder why Intel's 1080p advantage disappears and it ends up losing in higher resolutions.
Generally the CPU usage doesn't really increase with higher resolutions, could Ryzen perhaps handle larger bandwidth the GPU does at those resolutions better? Could explain why the 6900k does better as well
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>>60245981
>>60245868
Ryzen has better minimums. It's more consistent. That makes it better when GPU bottlenecked (which virtually everyone is)

At lower resolutions, the 7700k gets higher maximum framerates which make up for its bad minimums. At higher resolutions where it's GPU bottlenecked even further, it can't get those high maximums even more but it still gets shitty minimums which makes its average fall behind to Ryzen.
It's very simple and it's why Ryzen is better even in gaming, not just productivity. Except for those handful of games that run shit on it for no reason like Watch Dogs 2.
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>>60246016
Watch Dogs, FO4, Tomb Raider(DX12) and FarCry performance seems to be all over the place.

Also DX12 Battlefield 1, DX11 is fine.
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>>60243024
>That Farcry res scaling


HOW!??
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>>60246042
lol. The tomb raider DX12 problem is only with Nvidia GPUs.
You can easily spot a lying manipulative shill reviewer by whether or not they do CPU tests using that game in DX12 with an Nvidia GPU.

>GREAT DRIVERS
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