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/nrg/ - Nyaa replacments general

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This thread is for the discussion of the possible replacements for Nyaa.se

News
>Thanks to the new Uk streaming laws nyaa is taken down by his founder. No database was left.
>Some anons in the last thread actually believed that you could put a bitcoin miner inside a .mkv or a magnet. Everyone went nuts. It was confirmed that it was just a stupid bait.

Sources
>https://nyaa.pantsu.cat (db is up to date with nyaa)
>https://sukebei.pantsu.cat (db is from 8-15)
>https://nyaarchive.moe (hosted on a russian website,the db is most uptaded one and it has descriptions)

Local Client
>An anon made a local client in case the online sources are down: https://yanju.moe/nyanner/0.5-Nyanner.zip
>In order to use it you have the download these files and select them when you first run the program
>sqlite3: https://mega.nz/#!kloQmQSS!kRXUjT2i4Lqwmdf3IhAhzkkN2MoS-WL9fMpkjOMegcQ
>.txt: https://mega.nz/#!RpZkCDKC!-rjgVDLrClPrLdugtvyfFLrS91TXhz87ZYZR063yBF4
>Source Code: https://yanju.moe/nyanner/0.5-Nyanner-src.zip

FAQ
>https://pastebin.com/Gq9MrJN5

Development and discussion channel
>https://github.com/ewhal/nyaa
>#nyaapantsu on Rizon
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First for bitcoin botnet shenanigans

You guys making these back-ups are doing Lains work.
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Did that complete nyaa mirror that vacation anon posted ever turn out to be legit?
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is the irc channel down? can't login with rizon
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Have you removed the bitcoin miners from the magnet links yet?
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>>60226845
he tried to put miners inside mkv files and shit, it wes a fake
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>No database was left.
What the actual fuck how spooked can one euro get
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why do you people try to use nya when there is already and has been even before nya been a perferctly good alternative/mirror?
try looking up tokyotosho
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>>60226793
Man /g/ is really dedicated to bringing nyaa back arn't they?
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>>60226876
Collective autism brings greatness into this world.
Also RSS feeds support queries.
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>>60226876

EU can take our freedums but they ain't taking our chinese cartoons
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>>60226876
Anime is serious fucking business.
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I'm not much into tecnology, can someone tell me what is the "DHT" that the pastabin talks about? Google only tells me about some molecule.
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>>60226923
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table

tl;dr: magic that makes it possible for torrent clients to find peers to download from using only the infohash of a torrent (contained in a magnet link), without needing any tracker sites
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>>60226829
>>60226854
>>60226860
Stop that shit.

>>60226845
He tried to extort money then put adfly links into his garbage which was just random nonsense.

>>60226793
>nyaa is taken down by his founder
It should say nyaa was voluntarily taken by down its founder.

>Everyone went nuts. It was confirmed that it was just a stupid bait.
Those people going nuts were baiters as well. Only a few legit people got spooked. Everything else was obvious bait.
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>>60226943
Are magnets magic? Because they feel like they are.
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>>60226966
yes, magnets are magic
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>>60226889
through dick unity

>>60226966
magnets were magic to begin with, magnet links are advanced magic, 7th year stuff
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>>60226962
I'm one of the ones who got spooked by it but looking back on it I find it pretty funny now.

The vacation guy was a bit of a cunt trying to get money for his "work"
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>>60226873
It's only an aggreagator, you still need to upload the torrent somewhere for tokyotosho to work, you could use one of the torrent caches like http://itorrents.org/, but not convenient, plus I don't even know if TT supports udp trackers
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I'm getting a 502 error that the site is down but only when I make certain searches
Is the site actually going up and back down or is this a problem?
I'm trying to search for the urara meirochou manga raw
I accidentally searched all categories but that worked
Searching under the literature category didn't work
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>>60226927
(Continuing from last thread)
Moving to a unique topic makes sense, to lessen the burden on individual users.
The exchange would look something like this:
—User sends a search query that looks something like this, to "the_index":
{
query: "anime op flax",
cat: "Music",
limit: "50",
page: "0",
topic: "kkbj32b"
}

—User subs to topic "the_index-kkbj32b"
—Bot subs to "the_index-kkbj32b", and preforms query.
—Bot sends search results, that looks something like so:
{
client: "Qm....",
results: [ ... ]
}

—User reads the result, and publishes a confirmation message, before disconnecting from pubsub.

Thus the user doesn't need to listen to everyone else's queries while he waits on the bot. If the user doesn't "Confirm" he got the message, the bot will try to send it again a few times before giving up. All the while, the bot is still connected to the_index.

There may need to be a bit more to the spec though. The bot can only identify people through their Peer ID (the IPNS hash) but this would be the same for people accessing the site through a public gateway like ipfs.io or glop.me
So maybe throw in some extra session-data type stuff in the initial search query.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure how we could prevent trolls from injecting their own results.
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>>60227065
yeah it is, devs are applying changes to fix bugs
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>>60227070
>Unfortunately, I'm not sure how we could prevent trolls from injecting their own results.
Actually nevermind. Just make it so the client only picks up search results from approved peers. Not sure why that didn't come to me as obvious.
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>>60226815
Just thought of something, how would we capture the normie audience that don't want to do anything special they just want to access the site grab what they want and go. How many people would actually want to sit down and install ipfs or maybe like a searcher in electron or something. Pretty sure that was my original thinking for an actual web server handling queries in the first place.

AFAIK the pubsub will not work browser side for ipfs.
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>>60227089
Normalfags are irrelevant though, this would be an easy to use archive for dedicated anons to have, so that we can avoid a retard deleting everything again.

Just attach a guide for illiterates to use in case they want to use it.
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I'm poking around in that fusion.sqlite3 file directly and the descriptions are some weird mush of undisplayable characters

what format is that and how do I properly view it?
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>>60227089
That's why I picked go and kept sane defaults.
Normies will be able to download a db and then just run nyaa.exe and go to their browser.
All we need is a scraper and bam everyone has their own nyaa clone.
>>60227119
probably zlib
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>>60227129
I am a peasant, is the scrapper exclusive for each torrent? If so we would have to wait for HSL friends to make a move and see what they came up with.
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>>60227089
>how would we capture the normie audience
Who cares
It would probably be beneficial for us to keep it low profile enough so that it doesn't get too much attention.
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>>60227141
Well I plan on scraping their site anyway.
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>>60227070
This is my exact thinking, the confirmation is good thinking never thought of that.

>>60227115 Yeah I guess that's fair, it's just that the normal fags would be the ones who would help the adoption.

>>60227129 Normies would be able to download a database through IPFS easy, the public gateways are open to anybody.
>download a db
>run nyaa.exe
If they end up downloading a db and running a program, having to run a program that does all the IPFS stuff for them (which is the aim from the beginning for me anyway) they may as well use IPFS.

I'm thinking longer term, with future up to date uploads.
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>>60227129
>running an external executable when I want to dl animu
How about no? This sounds awful and extremely unlikely it will be adopted by average users.
If average users don't adopt, why would fansubs groups?
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is Nyaa Pantsu eventually becoming the official replacement site?

if so, god speed anon.
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>>60227188
>>running an external executable when I want to dl animu
>How about no?
So why do you use a torrent client then?
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>>60227172
Sasuga

>>60227178
They are too retarded for that.

Remember, this is a database, not a tracker project, you only need a small number of anons keeping it on for it to work.
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>>60227089
>AFAIK the pubsub will not work browser side for ipfs.
It'll work if the IPFS daemon is running with pubsub enabled (it's currently an experimental feature) and if their config is setup right.
ipfs config --json API.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Origin "[\"*\"]"
ipfs config --json API.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Credentials "[\"true\"]"
ipfs config --json API.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Methods "[\"PUT\", \"POST\", \"GET\"]"

(Note, this allows usage of the API that runs at localhost:5001. Potentially risky)

So yeah, it may be a good idea to offer an Electron package with an IPFS daemon onboard. But we can leave that to someone else, if they really want normalfags to use it without going through setting up IPFS on their own.
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>>60227197
Maybe.
But it'll probably be replaced with a completely distributed version of the site instead.
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Clear your cache anons if the new site design doesn't appear for you.
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>>60226793
i would like to know how to embed bitcoin miner into mkv.
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>>60227198
The torrent client has more purposes than deal with a single torrent site.
I would have to have a torrent client AND another pantsu-exclusive executable.
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>>60227218
It's all apart of the sub cartels plan to make a profit off people who illegally download anime.
Daiz strikes again
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>>60227188
>>running an external executable when I want to dl animu
>How about no? This sounds awful and extremely unlikely it will be adopted by average users.

I don't think users should have to download a server/client to download shit.
There's nothing wrong with one person hosting a webserver for others to open in their regular browser.

If people want to host their own tracker / webserver, then of course they will need a server of some type
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There was this distributed sqlite thing on hackerjews https://github.com/lmatteis/torrent-net that could be useful if it wasn't OS X only
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>>60227213
table content is still broken
I'm the css guy from the irc chat a while ago
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>>60227082
>underestimating trolls
What if a trusted peers decides to troll?
I think you will need some of paxtons algorithm.
I got it from a book called "distributed systems" where its explained in detail.
OTOH: Each node is "judged" by its peers i.e. before making a connection with that Node (A) the Node (B) asks its neighbors (using the distance function of the underlying hash algorithms) of their opinion about the node.
If most agree that its trustworthy then it is considered as such.
The trick is to use a time dependent exp function which you can tune to either assume new nodes (who of course have no transactions in the past) to be untrustworthy until proven otherwise (can be hard to do since no one will wnant to connect to them) or assumes the opposite (may lead to some trolls at first but they would dissapear quickly since they would be considered untrustworthy almost immediately)
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>>60227243
Gee, thanks for that red curve, wouldn't have noticed otherwise.
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>>60227205
I was referring to if we just setup a site on IPNS that used the client side JS api https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-api and did all the searching that way.

But yeah I guess if all the hardcore users want to use support it with their good servers etc it'll be fine. If someone wants to make their own frontend site using our backend they can, nothing is stopping them.

>(Note, this allows usage of the API that runs at localhost:5001. Potentially risky)
Is it possible to just disallow usage to other api endpoints? IPFS is still new to me so I'm learning as I go basically. Is there actually any risk, does IPFS already have safeguards?
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>>60227251
yw
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>nyaa pantsu
>not nyanpasu
talk about dropping the ball
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>>60227207

ah alright I'll keep my eye open.
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Well...
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>>60227218
you cannot. It would require an exploit in the VLC player that starts interpreting the malicious code in the .mkv as operations which mine bitcoins.
This assumes that:
1. The user wont just stop the program if it hangs for more than 2 seconds
2. Using off the shelf hardware instead of dedicated ASIC farms is still profitable in 2017

Hiding miners in the magnet is even more impossible.
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>>60227277
A+ alignment
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450GB hentai collection: https://volafile.org/r/bkwwhj08

Downthemall: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/downthemall/
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The only thing pissing me off about nyaa going down is that I went though all the trouble of setting up the rss downloader in qbittorrent to download the newest anime I've been watching.

I can still download the anime, that isn't going to change, but the automated convenience is gone for the time being.
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>>60227277
wtf i use opera and it looks good
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>>60227277
I don't get it (Chromium here)
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>>60227300
No need to spam this stuff on every thread, make a thread on one of the porn boards.
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>>60227309
me

disregard what I just said, I suck cocks and found a way to rss again.
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First for fuck deluge

rTorrent soon™
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>>60227273
I like it.
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>>60227247
The system we're planning relies on IPFS's pubsub feature. When you publich to pubsub on a topic, It basically "announces" to the world (or at least everyone listening to that topic) what you want.
IPFS identifies everyone involved by their peer-id, so as long as the query results come from a peer-id that is white-listed, it should be ok.

Should. But what do I know?

>>60227257
>I was referring to if we just setup a site on IPNS that used the client side JS api
Yeah, that's what I had in mind too. If we set things up like this, other people can just create a different front-end tied to a website.

>Is it possible to just disallow usage to other api endpoints?
I... think there might be. I'll ask on their IRC.
Because the above 3 lines can enable malicious IPNS sites to pin and rm whatever they want from IPFS, so I assume there should be a configuration to only allow certain API features.
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>>60227353
--enable-pubsub-experiment
Is the launch option they specify here https://ipfs.io/docs/commands/#ipfs-pubsub but I'd imagine it would be doing similar, if not what you said before?
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>>60227277
how about now?
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>>60227277
what browser? Screen?
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>>60227277
>>60227310
>>60227316
in the end he solved the issue with responsiveness adding an horizontal scrollbar
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I will make an irssi-autodl .tracker file if u niggers want


What channels though?

and I will need the logs for their upload bots
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>>60227375
found a minor thing
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>>60227375
with the overfow rule enabled you are safe for now. don't bother too much if a new theme is coming in the next days
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Why not just use ThePirateBay and just collect the magnets on some random deep web site?

That shit will never go down.
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Looks like Nyaa but modernized.
I like it.
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>>60227405
you can solve this increasing the z-index for nav#mainmenu from 3 to 4
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>>60227400
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>>60227372
Yeah, to enable pubsub you need to run
ipfs daemon --enable-pubsub-experiment

But because modern browsers protect against "Cross Origin Resource Sharing" in most cases, you need to set up your config so that when you use IPFS through your browser, the page can call the API (which is actually run on a separate port)

To enable CORS, there are these three lines:
$ ipfs config --json API.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Origin "[\"http://example.com\"]"
$ ipfs config --json API.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Credentials "[\"true\"]"
$ ipfs config --json API.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Methods "[\"PUT\", \"POST\", \"GET\"]"

But again, this opens up the entire API.
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Non-Webdev here:
Is there a reason why sukebei is run in a separate instance instead of being namespaced to /sukebei/ or something?
Seems like it would be easier to create a copy, as you would only need one instance instead of two.
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>>60227375
It's fixed now.
>>60227379
Firefox Nightly on any screen.
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>>60227452
Separate is better
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>>60226962
What the fuck?
He had a bitcoin link in the original post, right?
Was he not happy with not getting money for it?
Did he want some up front without proofs?
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>>60227449
Ahh I see. So, what if we just ditch the web browser sites like you suggested ages ago and instead go for a local program that has it's open webui, using the Go and Node libraries. If a website wants to make a front for it they can still use this exact program.

Wouldn't have to worry about CORS then.
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> date 2017-05-01T17:37:00Z

Pantsu pls
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>>60227524
Using Go or* Node libraries. My bad,

I use Node so I'll be no help to anything Go.
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I guess ordering by downloads is useless?
Or was the value in the db
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>>60227601
>Or was the value in the db
Yes
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>>60227524
>>60227536
Yeah, at this point using a web browser page seems like it would put users at risk.
Over on #ipfs they said that if I run a website, I could put the API behind a proxy, but that would only help for a possible front-end. I might still set up a front, but I don't really want to run it on my server.

In the meantime, I should probably focus on setting up a guideline for how our system would work, create a bot to manage and update the database, and then petition the big sub groups to adopt our plan.
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>>60227300
Can't you put them all in a torrent since the ones on the website keeps getting deleted.
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>>60227633
Quick question on getting the backend setup, will you be using the Node implementation they have or Go, would be nice to know for future referencing.
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>>60227633
Ahahahahah

Sub groups live for attention
They want the normalfags

They will never agree to obscure ipfs
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>>60227667
If obscure ipfs works and their normies can get to it easily I'm sure they would think about it.
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>>60227667
I'm in a subgroup and I don't want the normies
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>>60227686
Negro my normalfags friend can't even learn torrents
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>>60227697
Then they can stick to their shitty kiss/9anime
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>>60227661
I'm more familiar with Go. I honestly haven't touched Node in any serious manner.

>>60227667
IPFS is just a backend.
Normies can have a website that's easier to deal with, but IPFS would insure the database is open for anyone to backup.
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So, I already completely downloaded a certain torrent and shut my PC down yesterday, which I do quite often. I seeded a bit yesterday evening after it was finished and hit "Pause" before shutting it down.
Today I started up the client again and hit "Resume" but now it's downloading it again.

I don't want to redownload the torrent files, I want to just seed them, as I already have the files available.
What can I do?
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>>60227710
Probably be better to use Go anyway since it's the more up to date and feature rich version.

I couldn't get the node implementation to compile on the latest version so I had to downgrade to the latest stable version, which is fine, but I'll miss my async functions, poo.

Well anyway, time to start prototyping something.
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>>60227070
>>60227089
Can someone give me a quick rundown on what is this pubsub thing and what are you thinking to do with IPFS? Thanks.
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>>60227743
Use a good program
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Do any of the backup sites allow you to upload your own magnet links?
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Is there anything I can mirror on IPFS right now that would help? My node has high uptime and speed, I only take it down when I play video games and I'd like to assist in hosting.
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>>60227743
Set it to the same download location and/or recheck torrent
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Fuck, now I have to deal the stupid bullshit that is bakaBT. I hate those guys.
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>>60227778
There's this thing from a previous thread, downloads a 50mb sqlite db and allows search from browser
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/Qmc5K4pAxcTBWWkrMyz8mSdiMVqhGx4MwG8A65k8tiis63/
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>>60227792
is that place still alive?

I just get cloudflare website offline message. same with TPD

is it my ISP?
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>>60227752
PubSub is a system that lets you listen (SUBscribe) to events, a server will PUBlish events whenever it needs to and anyone subscribed to those specific events will receive them.

Say the user subscribed to the topic 'foo' when the server sends out 'foo' it can attach data to it for example like what was posted earlier:
{
query: "anime op flax",
cat: "Music",
limit: "50",
page: "0",
topic: "kkbj32b"
}


Thats a quick rundown on PubSub.

A very quick summary of what we are thinking about doing with IPFS is having sub groups run their own node where they will release shit and people will listen over PubSub for new content. There were also talks about having a frontend page like Nyaa/Pantsu (which is still possible) that can also listen and display it all on an easy to use normie site.

I've probably missed a lot of content in between, look back on the previous thread and you'll find more stuff.
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Can we recover most of nyaa or all of it?

Some guy said in the previous thread that we can only get like 50%
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>>60227834
https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/faq
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>>60227505
It was fake anyways, so it was a good thing no one was retarded enough to give him money without any proof.
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>>60222779
If it is an append only database, think redis, then you don't need to download the whole thing again, just the new chunks.

I've toyed with IPFS in the past and it is good as long as you don't care your up linked to chunks of data the same way it happens with torrent.

Since it's for a torrent site in the end, it doesn't matter. Clients can connect from behind your if they want.
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Fuck where can I download the latest fakku rips now?
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>>60227831
it's down for "maintenance" and will be back online soon™ just wait a bit.
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>>60226876
Don't take away a man's Chinese cartoons.
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>>60227129
>>60227178
>>60227198
You have to understand, that normalfags will take the path of least resistance to get what they want. And if it takes too much effort, they might just drop the whole thing altogether, or start being streaming retards if they aren't already.
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>>60227277
note how this only affect people using Mozilla browsers like myself...haven't tried Chrome yet.
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>>60227752
PubSub is is an experimental feature with IPFS. There are certain "topics", and people can "subscribe" to these topics, and others can "publish" to them. When someone publishes to a topic, everyone who's subscribed gets the message. No need to connect to a central server or anythings.

The current idea goes like this:
Keep a database of torrents on an open IPNS address.
A bot will listen to a certain topic, and subgroups can publish announcements (following a certain format). The bot will then append the new information to the database, and push the database to IPNS.
IPNS is like a "website address" for IPFS, unique to every peer, so if we make the IPNS address public anyone can make a backup. At the same time, Subgroups would be encouraged to run an open IPNS node with a published json file with all of their releases till now.

Meanwhile, we can set up a different topic, with the same bot (or a different one) subscribed to it. Users can make search queries to this topic, like how you might do so with IRC bots. The bot will return your search results, and you can unsubscribe to the topic. This feature can be used with a website as a front-end that dynamically shows you the results you want.
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>>60226889
Can we have json besides ROSS for future archival projects?
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>>60227877
Not him and I don't use bakabt but wasn't that like 2 days or more ago already?
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>>60227833
Can this be used to make sort of a database sync in real time?
Like, the user subscribes to ALL topics and receives everything that is published in the nodes. With standardized behavior you can have multiple backups of db without necessarily explicitly making backups.
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>>60227905
Yes they will be back pinky promise.
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>>60227852
So how much do you think we can recover from Nyaa? 95%? What about sukebei?
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I can't....
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You can download nyaarchive.moe's databases from http://66.11.126.121/.
>>60227833
Why not just a standard DHT network?
>a torrent is uploaded to a central server
>the central server hashes the description, infohash, etc and signs it
>publishes it to a node
>the node publishes it to all its neighbors, with the signature intact
>everyone now has a complete database backup kept up-to-date
>can search in it locally
>can run web frontends on cheap VPSes
>central server can get taken down without any harm being done
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>>60227834
we don't know until the dates of this website is bloody fixed, can't measure how much was recovered until we know the date it goes back to
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>>60227833
>>60227899
Sounds like an RSS feed.
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>>60227910
The idea is to have everyone on their own database using releasing from sub groups they want.

My idea was to have the nodes run by the sub groups publish a topic with a generic name when a new release is out that alerts anyone subscribed so they can add it to that database.

Of course, there will be somebody who will try to subscribe to every group there is, and that person may also build a front end of his database that
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>>60227910
Yes, that is entirely possible. I'll be running a bot to always listen on the new releases topic to keep an up-to-date database, but really anyone else could make use of the system to save a local database.

>>60227948
That's one way to look at it. A very public, distributed and decentralized RSS feed.
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It was all about sukebei. You can get anime anywhere but sukebei was a porn gold mine.......
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>>60227945
The dates are okay, lrn2iso8601.
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>>60226876
They will not take my animu from me.
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>>60227833
Neat. How is pubsub available for the browser? Is there an API exposed locally via the IPFS daemon, that can be accessed like localhost:port/API whatever? Or do you intend to use the gateway (if it supports)?

>>60227899
I don't quite get the last paragraph. Can't you do that with the IPFS client already (searching in the IPNS nodes, if this is what you meant)? You would need the client anyway. Or the bot runs IPFS and it acts like a "front-end" to it, and you make HTTP requests to it?
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>>60227974
I ain't, see screenshot, they are all the same
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>>60227970
I agree about sukebei but most of the content is originally taken and uploaded from anime-sharing and chink forums, better to just go to those places and make an account, people are willing to upload deleted files if you ask.
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>>60227964
>>60227967
That's exciting.
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>>60227991
That is because at the very beginning of the old nyaa database a lot of torrents were registered to the same moment. Looks like an artifact of an old database migration. 2008 sounds about right.
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>oh whew at least my JAV torrent website still works
>download torrent
>the tracker is nyaa

just fuck my life up
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>>60228027
use DHT
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>>60227743
>What can I do?
Use qbittorrent
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>>60228033
Or even one of the many public trackers there's tons of those.
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>>60228023
So you're saying nyaa.pantsu.cat has almost 100% of the torrents?
That sounds too good to be true. It means that it has torrents from when nyaatorrents started to 1st May 2017. thats like 99% of the sfw section
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>>60227964
Sounds like a lot of work for the groups, considering with nyaa they just had to enter the website and upload their torrent. Will need graphical clients or something. You can build web applications in IPFS so generating the formats can be done using a web form.

Is the subscription handled by the IPFS daemon or do you need to subscribe yourself? Also last time I looked, the files were duplicated when you added them to ipfs since it keeps it's own copy of the files in it's data folder when you pin them. Did they fix that?
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>>60228037
>unironically recommending qbittorrent aka the indonesian leecher kid's torrent client
transmission master race.
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>>60228039
for JAV? like what
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>>60227986
As far as I can tell pubsub on the browser is either not possible YET, or is just a big pain in the ass. I was thinking of using the gateway but after realising it isn't really supported the idea went out the window.

The idea now is to have, I guess a client for lack of better word, that interacts with IPFS then displays it's own webui with the data. At the moment the only finished implementation of IPFS is in Go, but there is one in Node (which I am using) that is incomplete but has the functionality I need, so far, and one in Python that has only recently started. So the client application will either be packaged with Go or Node depending on how this pans out.
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>>60227998
>people are willing to upload deleted files if you ask.
If you are lucky. Many of the unloaders don't even have their original files. Most of them uploaded the files for the initial downloads and then relied on sukebei for archival. Plus its a time consuming and tiring process to PM people for stuff.
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Whats this whole Nyaa and why should I care?
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>>60228056
The things missing are mostly sukebei. And some guy said he had a 1 month old dump of that, so there's probably 95% of stuff available.
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>>60227862
Dolphin porn?
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nyaa.pantsu.cat is missing some stuff compared to nyaarchive.moe
Compare:
pantsu:
>[Golumpa] Attack on Titan (Shingeki no Kyojin) S2 - 02 [English Dub] [FuniDub 1080p x264 AAC] [MKV] 2017-05-01T17:37:00Z 1.5 GiB
>[Golumpa] Attack on Titan (Shingeki no Kyojin) S2 - 01 [English Dub] [FuniDub 1080p x264 AAC] [MKV] 2017-05-01T17:37:00Z 1.5 GiB
>I My Me Specials [anime_fin] 2017-05-01T16:50:00Z 202.5 MiB
nyaarchive:
>[Golumpa] Attack on Titan (Shingeki no Kyojin) S2 - 02 [English Dub] [FuniDub 1080p x264 AAC] [MKV] Magnet 1.65GB 2017-05-01 12:37:00
>[Golumpa] Attack on Titan (Shingeki no Kyojin) S2 - 01 [English Dub] [FuniDub 1080p x264 AAC] [MKV] Magnet 1.65GB 2017-05-01 12:37:00
>[16 torrents]
>[ISLAND]One_Piece_786_[VOSTFR]_[V1]_[10bit]_[720p]_[BE60D888].mkv Magnet 298.51MB 2017-05-01 12:36:00
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>>60228063
An index website is not a tracker. Please do not confuse the two.


You can usually attach these two public trackers to most public torrents to find some peers

udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80/announce

udp://tracker.publicbt.com:80/announce
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>>60228027
Can you share the name of this JAV torrent website senpai?
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>>60228074
You shouldn't, just go away.
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>>60228072
Are you aware almost all the content that gets uploaded is actually legally acquired the uploaded, right?
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>>60228079
Okay. A guy has said he has 1 month old of the Sukebei dump, so why hasn't he uploaded it?
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>>60228079
If thats true than its all good. The stuff uploaded in the last month are still fresh releases and can be added again. Many of the older releases don't even have the original files anywhere else, just dead links.
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>>60228088
Done that with obscure German movies and it actually worked.
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Whens the sukebei replacement ready? I need my porn, sadpanda doesnt have uncensored animu
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>>60228057
Obviously the plan will be to make it easy for the groups, no harder than adding a torrent to Nyaa. But we'll get there when we do.

The subscription will be done though a client application that is separate to IPFS. This will either be done in Go or Node. Atleast this is how I am picturing it, the guy I was talking with may have a different idea on how to implement this.
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>>60228060
it sucks on windows
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>>60228100
He was doing so, I left the channel after that, no idea if it was done. Go to IRC for info I guess.
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So why did he decide to take down the website? It doesn't seem like there was any pressure from the courts.
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>>60228092
Can confirm... it's sadly not free and shipping is a bitch...
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>>60228123
Faggot got spooked easily
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>>60228057
>the files were duplicated when you added them to ipfs since it keeps it's own copy of the files in it's data folder when you pin them. Did they fix that?
It's experimental but it works.
https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/3397#issuecomment-284337564
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>>60228057
Tradeoff I guess. The website (say pantsu.cat) can have accounts like nyaa and the final user uploads normally. The server pushes the data to IPFS under the hood and deletes the local copy afterwards.
The bad side is that now the fansub groups rely on a front-end that could be taken down, even though they don't have to.
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sukebeis death hit me especially hard

where am I to get the uncensored fakku releases now? do I have to bite the bullet and give jewcob my money?
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>>60228107
A separate client will be best. I was trying to do stuff simply using JavaScript in the browser directly served by ipfs and you can't do much besides static readers that way.
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>>60228145
Give your money for 1 month like $12, take all the manga, ez
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>>60228089
javjunkies

I kept getting 404 but then I turned on my free VPN extension and I could download the torrent. Things used to be so much simpler. Are the internet police taking over or something? seems like everything is broken now
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>>60228145
follow the uploader's blog/irc, most of the releases have notes left by the uploader.
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>>60228145
>Vanilla

Anyway, check /h/ they have the torrents
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>>60228088
These two trackers are dead.

These work:
udp://explodie.org:6969
udp://tracker.coppersurfer.tk:6969
udp://tracker.leechers-paradise.org:6969
udp://zer0day.to:1337/announce
udp://tracker.opentrackr.org:1337
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>>60227986
To use pubsub locally you would need to run you daemon with
ipfs daemon --enable-pubsub-experiment
, and to make use of the API from inside the browser, you would need to open up your CORS.
ipfs config --json API.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Origin "[\"http://example.com\"]"
ipfs config --json API.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Credentials "[\"true\"]"
ipfs config --json API.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Methods "[\"PUT\", \"POST\", \"GET\"]"


I'm not sure if the gateways enable it though.

>I don't quite get the last paragraph
It's about querying the database. So everything before makes a public database and enables people to receive updates live, but the last bit is about using previously recorded data.
In a previous thread I made an IPFS app that let you search the database from inside the browser, but that required you download the >50MB database, and was bad for people with slow internet or bad computers.
This idea instead lets you submit your Search to a PubSub topic, and let a bot query the database.

>>60228064
>or is just a big pain in the ass
It's this. Though, I think you can just open up a WebSocket to "http://localhost:5001/api/v0/pubsub/sub?arg=TOPIC" and that should be fine. I was listening in with
curl "http://localhost:5001/api/v0/pubsub/sub?arg=interplanetary-animu"
to test. This returns a JSON object with the data encoded in base64.

>>60228107
Yeah, I'm not sure about how I would do the client application. I'd leave that up to you.
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>muh anime
get a life

>muh hentai
get a wife
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>>60228178

Problem is with the site down I can't lookup who the uploader was
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>>60228176
Internet is over.
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>>60228064
Oh well, that sucks. It will be quite hard to make people adopt this, if they need to download both IPFS and a extra client (actually I don't think many will download IPFS at all), and also need to access nyaa.

I really like the idea behind IPFS, just wished it was a bit more secure, really. I know you can use it with I2P, but it's a pain in the ass.
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>>60228184
These also:
udp://9.rarbg.com:2710/announce
udp://eddie4.nl:6969/announce

(https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/60222560#p60225581)
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>>60228196
2D > 3D
That's how life goes
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>>60228196

a 3D wife could never transform herself into a milf and a loli on whim like my 2D waifu does
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>>60228143
Yes but as long as the data is on ipfs, new front ends can be made. But a flag front end that just works would be a good first option.

I'm thinking ipfs can be a nice tool for people who want to scrap sites to keep an archive. Now it was nyaa but we've had drama with mangatraders and boorus before. A general scrapper + archival thing people can pin for posterity sounds like a good idea for the future.
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>>60228199
I mean in the torrent folder, are there no txt files or jpg files with notes about the group?
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>>60226895
>>60227978
For the last time, it was a UK law.
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>>60227927
Nyaa should be everything, problem will be uploading new stuff.

Now in regard to sukebei, only time will tell. Maybe a nip who doesnt knows about this project yet has a more recent backup, maybe this is all we're going to get.
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>>60228210
The best is still going to be a public frontend that's easily cloned and replaced that would be easy for retards so you'll be able to keep the torrents healthy.
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>>60228210
http://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmZCH1fY8iGA6VD5v
khZXYFWomYxYCLgXq4VJC5CEauyA6

(it'll help if 4chan didn't think these are spam)
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>>60228231
>just before brexit they pass 1 shit law that fucks over the other eu countries

Truly Brits are the worst of the worst
>>
desu just rewrite the frontend in react + redux
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What is the point of IPFS instead of Bittorrent?
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>>60227661
Node is the devil.
Literally.
Use Go.
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>>60228226
>there
make use of internet archive, you might find something. idk what you're looking for in particular so see for yourself, most of the pages are accessible

https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20170407040601/sukebei.nyaa.se
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>>60228242
Make a well documented API so anyone can make a local interface for uploading.
Won't that work?
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>>60228268
I'm hipster, lemme keep my node I like i.
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>>60228254
http://www.zdnet.com/article/leaked-document-reveals-uk-plans-for-wider-internet-surveillance/
Worse than Hitler and Stalin combined. At least loli was (probably) legal under Hitler.
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>>60228261
not instead, we're talking about decentralizing indexing sites, the actual downloads will still be bittorrent
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>>60228269
also, if you happen to still have some URLs in your browser history, you can paste them here and see if it's been stored

https://web-beta.archive.org/
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>>60228268
>Node is the devil.
This

>Use Go.
Go has no reason to exist. Use C, Rust, whatever instead.
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>>60227710
>IPFS is just a backend.

This.
Users did not use the raw DB of sukebi back when it was up, they used the website frontent.
However with IPFS every non-normie can actually help presever the data. Something which was not possible with the single point of failure of a normal website + db
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>>60227833
I've been waiting for something like this, I imagine one day we'll all just be mounting our anime over IPNS and having it automatically update as releases come out. No need to do anything, files will just show up in your folder and will only take up space when you open them or need to thumbnail part of them.
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>>60228298
Write me an IPFS implementation in C or Rust, maybe I'll use it.

I probably wouldn't, but still.
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>>60228333
https://github.com/kenCode-de/c-ipfs
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>>60227890
And why would we care?
Normies keep out please.
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>>60228298
>pointless language wars
kill yourself
>>60228333
https://github.com/kenCode-de/c-ipfs
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>>60228342
>>pointless language wars
Who said this though?
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>>60228333
You should probably stop using shitty hipster protocols.
>>
I would prefer it if we all used the term normalfag instead of normie.
The term normie came about because faggots were too afraid to use the word fag as they thought it would offend people.
tl:dr normal people created the term normie because they were too afraid to use normalfag.
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Change the shitty favicon
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>>60228341
>>60227667
Please do try to keep up.
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>>60228303
>Something which was not possible with the single point of failure of a normal website + db

Why not using blockchain for this ? It's pretty good, can't delete or tamper, also you can run via TOR and have subscriptions
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>>60228342
>>pointless language wars
Blame >>60228268
Let's all use Node!
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>>60226793
Cycling like a faggit lol
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>>60228350
>The term normie came about because faggots were too afraid to use the word fag as they thought it would offend people.
I'm sick of seeing this, it's not true at all. It's simply shorthand, stop propagating this bullshit.
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When highlighting torrents, you should just change the intensity, not set it to a hard coded color.

The middle torrent should be dark green, not grey.
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>>60228303
Any reason not to use a standard like NNTP instead?
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>>60228340
>>60228342
Well then I should have done a tiny bit of researching. I shall still stick to node, it's what I know and what I like, couldn't give two shits if anyone says otherwise.
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>>60228341
Because you want the torrents to stay as healthy as possible to get as fast a dl as possible. It's not about mixing with normalfags, it's about using them to speed up the torrents. They will get their anime one way or another, so why not use them to benefit us?
Would you rather they go on crunchy and give them more money to allow them to start aggressive takedowns?
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>>60228380
https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs
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>>60228371
Don't be lazy, you don't need to shorthand normalfag faggot.
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>>60228380
>node
Why don't you just kill yourself instead? How did you even find your way to /g/?
Nobody, no fucking sane person uses nor likes node. Nobody will run a nyaa-clone using node because they will not be that stupid in order to install the node bloat.
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>>60228398
Try not to make assumptions and also try not to throw a tantrum when people do things differently than you, faggot.
>>
don't use C you will get tons of bugs
don't use node it's dogshit concurrency


Go is fine, but Haskell WITH LINEAR TYPES is better. However the learn curve is steep so just stick with Go
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>>60228283
>we're talking about decentralizing indexing sites
Why not use bittorrent/DHT for this?
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>>60228405
eh, to each his own
i personally pass on anything written in java or node, but that's just me
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>>60228397
Yeah this what I'm using, thanks though.

>>60228405
Feel free to port it to whatever language you see fit buddy it doesn't bother me.
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>>60228388
>Implying normies seed
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>>60228413
>make a polite request post
>stop throwing a tantrum
Reading too much into things now are we?
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>>60228419
>the learn curve is steep
Only if you are quite literally sub 80-IQ.
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Guys, maybe japan hates gaijins taking away their culture and hoobies. All the things we like are from them and maybe they hate that. Didn't it crossed your minds? Thats why they cuck us
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>>60228419
That's a funny way of saying Rust.
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>>60228420
DHT will likely play a part, IPFS uses DHT, for example
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>>60228432
>i am very smart
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>>60228419
>Haskell WITH LINEAR TYPES
Wait, you can use Haskell with linear types? This is the first time I hear of this.

>don't use C you will get tons of bugs
Same for most languages with a shitty type system.

>don't use node it's dogshit concurrency
Don't use anything js based ever because it causes cancer.

>Go is fine
Go also has a shitty type system, just like C. Except that unlike C it was a language that was made out of nowhere while it offered nothing new.
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>>60228433
The nips used nyaa too, so yea.
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>>60228427
It's not polite when you're spreading falsehoods.
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>>60228440
>merely being above 80-IQ is smart
I'm very sorry for you, anon.
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>>60228184
one of these is working and it says 5 seeds but it still wont download at all. what's the deal
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>>60228231
Thank God it's the last time you complain.
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>>60228433
>stop liking things that I like!!!
>muh cultural appriciation!
Yeah, whatever.
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>>60228447
Nice strawman. Don't be lazy normalfag is the correct term.
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>>60228442
>Go also has a shitty type system
I wouldn't call it a """"type system"""".
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>>60228442
https://github.com/tweag/linear-types/releases/download/v1.0/hlt.pdf
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>>60228433
I mean most of Japan doesn't like anime?

A lot of them actually think its a waste of time and degenerate.
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>>60228436
The question is: why IPFS instead of something else?
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>>60228186
So let me get this straight:
1. Can you check for previous pubsub publications? And if yes, only by downloading the database?
2. When subbing, you will get the next notifications without have to downloading the database?
3. Then, the idea of the bot is to allow you to search for the publications?

>>60228248
Kek, I know, but if the pubsub system isn't available via the gateway it won't be much use.
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>>60228442
C dogshit extends past the type system and into undefined land
>>
I don't even think you have to interact directly with ipfs other than calling commands so use whatever language you want.

Work in a standard sharing format though. And a standard structure of files/folders so that any tool can generate and read from this.
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>>60228463
Thanks!
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>>60228442
>>60228463
https://github.com/tweag/ghc/tree/linear-types
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>>60228378
exactly, i was just thinking the same... it just doesn't feel right when hovering over them up & down
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>>60228459
How the heck is that a strawman? I'm starting to think you're just after attention at this point, please stop derailing the thread just because shorthand is your personal trigger. Regardless of which should be used it has no purpose being disucssed here, feel free to find or start a meta thread if you want to discuss posting etiquette with other posters, that way it can be ignored there too.
>>
http://blog.tweag.io/posts/2017-03-13-linear-types.html
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>>60228478
Just use an implementation that has guarantees no UB.

>>60228481
Why IPFS? Why not gnunet/freenet/NNTP?
>>
Zeronet equivalent when
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>>60228473
It exists already and it is easy to use. Also there's some backing. I think they mentioned a web browser was going to integrate it, I assume that was Firefox. Don't see it happening soon but it would be a huge win.

Either way, of the others are similar, then who cares what we use now as long as we can switch to something better once that's available.
>>
This better not just turn out like every other /g/ project where we talk about all this stuff but never actually end up implementing it.
Or is this time different?
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>>60228514
Nyaa dying is a big deal internet wide anon. Might be different.
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>>60228514
There is a github repo and people are working in it. Does that count?
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>>60228514
gotta start somewhere, if we don't talk about first it it certainly won't happen
whether something actually happens though, who knows
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>>60228503
>Just use an implementation that has guarantees no UB.
Rust?
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>>60228477
If you can't check for previous publications we just setup a metadata database, which should be trivial.
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>>60228497
>please stop derailing the thread just because shorthand is your personal trigger
Maybe you should take your own advise and stop making assumptions.
>also more strawman
I'm starting to think you're a normalfag, but you're absolutely right, you're derailing the thread, stop replying to me until you start using the correct terms.
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>>60228510
>It exists already and it is
...hipster to use.

>of the others are similar
GNUNet is superior in every single way and you can actually use it with any browser with the GNS.
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>>60228514
This keeps happening every now and then. For the last 20 years. We will be fine. Porn and anime will never die.
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>>60228514
https://github.com/ewhal/nyaa

there have been tons of additions since the first launch and its still being worked on, jsut follow it a lil more to stay updated, you can hit the "watch" button top right on github
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>>60228514
I think the guy choosing Go is much more divisive than expected and it's definitely a weak point to move the project forward.
Although we really do need to replace nyaa, so we'll get it one way or the other.
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>>60228477
>Can you check for previous pubsub publications?
No, that's why the database is there to record pubsub posts. (So I guess "yes"?)

>When subbing, you will get the next notifications without have to downloading the database?
Yes. You basically just get the new announcements pushed to you whenever someone announces.

>Then, the idea of the bot is to allow you to search for the publications?
Exactly. Meanwhile, you can also choose to download the (current version of the) database at any time.
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>>60228533
I said implementation, not language.
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>>60228473
The only alternative that uses BitTorrent that I know of is ZeroNet and the implimentation isn't great, it also has some restrictions in regaurds to filesize as well as privacy concerns (pic related).

the reference ipfs implimentation has some inherent benefits over bt as well. Things such as the http gateway which provides interoperation with existing programs, mounting of content, no chunk size or swarm concerns (by default everything is a standard size and you connect to the global swarm, although private swarms and other chunking methods are possible), dynamic content is possible, and more.
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>>60228514
Nyaa was used a lot worldwide. The chinks used it a lot. A new nyaa will come out soon.
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>>60228549
I'm talking about the distributed indexer talk.
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>>60228514
Through 2D, unity.
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>>60228560
UB is part of the C language. An """"implementation"""" of """"C"""" without UB isn't C.
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>>60228563
>http gateway
This is an anti-feature.

>mounting of content
Already exists for bt.
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>>60228565
The chinks have already made their own nyaa, acgnx.se. It was posted earlier.
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>>60228514
Anime is serious fucking business, anon.
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>>60228542
>>60228503
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>>60228579
I fear that you are wrong. An implementation is free to define the so called undefined behaviour.
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>>60228594
>Posting the old GUI
Also, you can just use the browser or the cli instead.
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>>60228587
Nice
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>>60228583
What's your argument in favor of bt? I see no reason to use it over IPFS for this kind of project, it's at worst on par and at best more flexible. It aims to replace HTTP and I think it's on pace to do that.
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>>60228599
It is by definition impossible for something to be both free of UB and an implementation of the C language at the same time.
>An implementation is free to define the so called undefined behaviour.
In which case it is still undefined by the C standard. Unless that implementation is somehow magically able to change that.
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>>60227089
IPFS is a deadend:
https://github.com/ipfs/faq/issues/36#issuecomment-140567411
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Just host it on Google Drive
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>>60228642
>It is by definition impossible for something to be both free of UB and an implementation of the C language at the same time.
[citation needed]

>In which case it is still undefined by the C standard
Yes, I don't disagree. Meanwhile, it will still be defined by that implementation.
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>>60228587
only raws and baked/dead fish for recent stuff, not even horrible ... GREAT replacement
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>>60228643
Blacklists are per node, by default you don't even have one. Anyone can host a gateway too and not blacklist things. Even still the default IPFS gateway is hosted in the US not the EU so there shouldn't be anything wrong with hosting an index.
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>>60228615
>What's your argument in favor of bt?
It's the standard, it's tested, it's not hipster, it's popular, it's simpler to implement.
There is no reason to use ipfs instead. Literally no reason.
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>>60228674
>Even still the default IPFS gateway is hosted in the US
The US has worse laws concerning torrents than the EU.

Also
>We (the IPFS team) will maintain many hash lists, including some denylists, like a DMCA denylist
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>>60228677
Argument against BT, if not for IPFS: BT exposes your IP.
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>>60228689
Use it over I2P then.
IPFS is not privacy oriented anyway, unlike other projects like freenode or GNUNet.
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>>60228688
It's still per-node, and anyone can set up their own gateway and ignore these blacklists.
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>>60228677
Nobody is stopping you from writing an implementation in bt but I think that's a waste of time and would be more difficult in regards to dynamic content and content addressing. I don't see any benefit in using bt where I do for ipfs.

>>60228689
IPFS also exposes your IP just like everything else, this won't be a concern when coupled with i2p or whatever other established system you trust (Tor, etc.)
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>>60228661
>[citation needed]
Something is an implementation of the C language if and only if it follows the C standard. And the C standard has UB.
>Meanwhile, it will still be defined by that implementation.
An implementation of C choosing to provide certain guarantees about UB isn't somehow the same as "an implementation [of C] without UB", which is by definition impossible.
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>>60228587
>announce tracker with ssl support
I didn't know it could be done, cool.
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>>60228320
yeah, enjoy trolls pushing the newest releases of Boku no Pico onto your disk
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>>60228677
bt isn't an anonymous network.
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>>60228727
>Something is an implementation of the C language if and only if it follows the C standard
Yes, and implementations are free to do whatever they want on UB, even not document their behaviour or have random behaviour.
The standard allows one specific behaviour on UB, there is nothing in it that disallows it.
If you think that this is not the case, then please, show the specific section of the standard that disagrees with me. (tip: it does not exist)

>which is by definition impossible
Again, [citation needed]
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>>60228666
I only said they made one, I didn't say it was good.
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Only 4 days passed anon. Be patient.
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>>60228739
It can be used as once, just like ipfs.
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>>60228755
>only
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>>60228783
AI-chan a CUTE!
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>>60228027
>using trackers in 2017 >>60228033 this!

Never use trackers, seriously.

>>60228057
it would be good if they got an instant detox from torrent files and moved completely to magnets + dhts.
Torrent files and trackers provide needless single points of failure and should be avoided.
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>it became a general

Fucking faggots
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>>60228677
The fact that it's mature is why we know its shortcomings and can make better systems to surpass it. It's not like the IPFS team are unaware of past projects. Besides the whole point of IPFS is to be the gluecode connecting all these networks and formats together, eventually there will be a bt <-> ipfs bridge just like there is for http, if you like bt then you're in luck because you can still use it if really want to.

They're already working on handling the format
https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs/issues/779
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>>60228808
>Never use trackers, seriously.
>1 month to download an old anime episode on DHT
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>>60228829
Okay, that sounds good indeed. I am interested to see how this works out.
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>>60228419
>Haskell with linear types
kek senpai it's called Clean and was created over 30 years ago
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>>60228466
It's odd how anime consistently dominates their theatrical release charts when they all hate it.
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>>60228892
Thats an outlier. I'm talking about the average seasonal show.
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>>60228666
>not even horrible
You can still get HS from their website.
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>>60228466
馬鹿害人は黙ってろ
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>>60228333
C is almost as bad as Node.
Just use C++ or Common Lisp like every normal human does.

>>60228357
I am moderately familiar with Blockchain but I do not see where we could use a Blockchain in this scenario.
This is not (yet) about anonymity, its simply about redundancy.

>>60228366
fuck your node. Node is literally a thin layer of hipster over JavaScript. I mean: JavaScirpt!
The turd language.
The only reason why JS is tolerated is because there is no other choice for client side web scripting.
Now morons want to spread this disease to servers. Come on, are you kidding me???

>>60228379
that would be great but NNTP is even less mainstream than IPFS.
And the advantage of IPFS is that it actually exists (as in: just download and run it), so subscription to Usenet required.

>>60228405
this.

>>60228419
BS, we should clearly rewrite IPFS using Ada.
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>>60228950
nip nong ching chong to you too.
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>>60228379
>>60228953
It's bullshit that I pay as much as I do for my ISP and they no longer provide usenet access.

>not rewriting IPFS in MIPS ASM
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>>60228924
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>>60228953
>This is not (yet) about anonymity, its simply about redundancy.

How is blockchain not good for redundancy ? Whenever it's written there, it's there for good.
Everyone using it will have a copy of all released magnets.
There are apis to push and pull messages from that already.
Trusted uploaders will have their own address, making it easy to get a good release. Spammers / unregistereds will have their address filtered out.
And anonmity as added bonus.
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>>60228924
That was Ghost in the shell wasnt it?
God I have to watch it now.
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>>60228503
>>60228542

gnunet freenet... all have the focus on anonymity.
Something that is currently not needed (yet).
Because of that the speed is just horrible.
IPFS has the focus of availability and redundancy, which makes it super fast.

>>60228514
Never underestimate the power of blue balls.

>>60228655
/sci/ started something like that back in 2010 called project Rhyzome. Did not get very far also every couple of month I still see new files being added to it.

>>60228830
I use btkitty.bid a dht scraper/search engines and found some old JAVs from 2002 that way that were superfast.

You do realize that the DHT only store the information about peers, not the actual data chunks of the torrent, right?
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>>60229029
ok put that way, it does actually make a lot of sense.
Yeah that could be a good idea.
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>>60228924
one thing about distributing the files themselves over IPFS is that IPFS is deduplicated by design
the same file always gets the same address (Qm.....), so anyone hosting that file can be a peer for it
unlike torrents where there can be many torrents with the same file in it, but you can only use the peers connected to a specific torrent
for example, if i had that encode of GITS on my machine already, and i add it to IPFS, it would get the same address as yours, and i join the same set of peers, where if i made a torrent of it, it'd be a unique torrent, with only me as a seeder
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>>60228953
>>60229029
Is IPFS/IPLD not also considered a blockchain? It's not a single chain but everything is made up of blocks and huge content is linked from the previous, you can also traverse to parents and stuff like that. There was a video (at the ethereum conference I think) where one of the devs was showing off zcash transaction traversal.

>>60229039
https://ghostbin.com/paste/pf5rn
It's not available on the main public gateway though. Someone needs to complain about ipfs hashes being seen as spam.

>>60229059
Doesn't GNUnet also have horribly huge hashes?
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Noob question: what the point of trackers if DHT can solve the peers?
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>>60229103
>Is IPFS/IPLD not also considered a blockchain?
I think its actually a Merkle-DAG (directed acyclic graph) meaning you only have one "entry" in each node, whereas the Blockchain has dozens or hundreds and is (eventually) linear with no branches.

>GNUnet
no idea, just used it a couple of times to benchmark the speed, never looked under the hood
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>>60229096
I feel like this is IPFS's greatest strength and really adds to the resiliency of content. Just this week I had to download the same file from 3 different torrents and constantly move it around to reverify and fill in the gaps with other torrents of different chunk sizes despite the file being the same. It was a pain in the ass.

>>60229111
I think in theory trackers will resolve faster.
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>>60229103
The blockchain is just a line while ipld or git objects form a tree

>>60229111
Were do you list the magnet, torrents?
Bittorrent doesn't have built in search like emule or limewire
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>>60229096
-- oh, and don't forget IPFS can store directory structures as well
i could add a folder with say, that episode, along with bluray scans or something
and the episode file in that folder still uses the same address, so downloading my folder means you're still a peer for the episode file
also means "v2" and whole-season releases will share common files inherently, maximizing possible peers
(whole-season folders become free if the episodes were already added individually earlier)
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>>60229103
>It's not a single chain

That's where I see the problem is. While traditional blockchain is just one and only, and distributed equal by its clients, IPFS will only add data if you add it (i.e. it's only redundant as long as clients make it so)
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>>60229111
there is no point in trackers but apparently some anons struggle to grasp this fact.

>>60229138
>I think in theory trackers will resolve faster.
If they exist, yes,
Problem is, trackers are a huge juicy target for the criminals of the MAFIAA. See what happened to TPB and their tracker for example.

>>60229145
>Bittorrent doesn't have built in search like emule or limewire
this is why I think the new nyaa should have a built in DHT scraper. There are tons of libraries available for that out there.
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>>60229059
>You do realize that the DHT only store the information about peers, not the actual data chunks of the torrent, right?
Duh but magic doesn't exist, if dht were a valid alternative to trackers, there would be no need to have the tracker feature in bittorrent clients in the first place, guess why we have it instead? because dht is legitimately shit, unless you go find and download torrents with thousands peers and add them to your queue even though you don't even need them, then wait hours for it to find some random peer in that swarm that actually has the files you wanted.

Stop pretending to be retarded, trackers make things a MAGNITUDE faster than dht.
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>>60229111
DHT is vulnerable
for copyright troll's scraping, and tracker can offer more statics peers for website.
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>>60229103
>Is IPFS/IPLD not also considered a blockchain?
I don't think it's strictly a blockchain, but can be used to implement one.

I kinda thought of just storing the database in IPLD, but I'm not familiar enough with it to fiddle with that.
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>>60229173
>this is why I think the new nyaa should have a built in DHT scraper.
Scraping the DHT only gives you the seeders
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>>60229111
speed
a tracker helps your client by providing a swarm of peers immediately, whereas with DHT you need to find them yourself
the actual download is the same though, so once you've found peers you're at the same point
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This is a good resource for IPFS questions
https://archive.fo/ymVRe
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Is anyone working on the IPFS variant replacement? I only see work on https://nyaa.pantsu.cat
Also, I wish we had a more recent DB of sukebei, losing sukebei was WAY more damaging than nyaa. A sea worth of obscure hentai shit lost to the void... it pains my heart.
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>>60228643
>public list of interesting addresses
it's a feature
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>>60229180
Bittorrent's DHT is crippled on purpose to ease implementation, there's even a paper about replacing it emule's KAD.
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>>60228196
Where do you think you are?
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>>60228924
Not GNUnet
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>>60229059
>/sci/ started something like that back in 2010 called project Rhyzome. Did not get very far also every couple of month I still see new files being added to it.
Got a link to that or is it on their wiki?
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>>60226793
Did someone save the fap part of nyaa?
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>>60229283
>memenet
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>>60228953
>that would be great but NNTP is even less mainstream than IPFS.
>And the advantage of IPFS is that it actually exists (as in: just download and run it)
What are you talking about? Every single mail client supports NNTP.

>so subscription to Usenet required.
You don't need to subscribe to anything.
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>>60229103
>Doesn't GNUnet also have horribly huge hashes?
No
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>>60229298
read the thread
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>>60229283
>>60229313
So... why don't you do it then?
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>>60229298
>not reading the FAQ
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>>60229059
>Something that is currently not needed (yet).
It is needed, it was always needed and it will be needed even more.
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>>60229339
the opening post even
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>>60229339
>>60229346
Thats a yes, thanks anon.
There is hope.
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>>60229343
Do what? It already exists.
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>>60228905
That's some weird logic to call the mainstream an outlier. Anime is commonplace and acceptable. What isn't accepted or considered normal is being an obsessive nerd about anime. Most people will have never heard of most lasts night shows and assume you are one of those nerds if you start talking about some obscure one. They don't hate anime because it's anime. They hate nerdy losers that like obscure anime and obsess over it.
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fucking weebs
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>>60226793
>Thanks to the new Uk streaming laws nyaa is taken down by his founder. No database was left.

why the fuck would he do this? stupid piece shit swede fuck him and his faggot country
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So I set up everything with golong, but it's not displaying any torrents from the db, what did I do wrong?
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>>60229386
Okay show me the GNUNET/NNTP based nyaa site that I've been missing out on.
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>>60229343
>GNU
>ever implementing anything
What do you expect from a project birthed out of cloning other peoples projects?
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>>60229138
heh, just ran into an old index page i believe was made by a /g/ user, which includes a couple things i added a couple years ago
... and they still work, despite me not having run an ipfs node myself since then
someone else must have pinned it, and the same exact link still werks

man, i wish the web as a whole worked like that

for those curious
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmU5XsVwvJfTcCwq
kK1SmTqDmXWSQ
WaTa7ZcVLY2PDxNxG/ipfs_links.html
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>>60229433
Please read the posts again.
For >>60228924 the exact same thing can be done with gnunet via the cli, you can do that right now.

>>60228379
Was a question of why not to use something that exists and works.

There is no nyaa site replacement on either but this was not what the topic was about.
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>>60229180
wtf are you talking about.

For the last year I have been using DHT with PeX exclusively and it works great.
Trackers are still there because they were there first.
Everyone and their mom has moved to DHT years ago.

>>60229189
wrong. trackers can be taken down by copyright trolls much more easily. See: TPB

>>60229215
it gives you the names of the torrents, the seeders and the leechers.

>>60229260
source?

>>60229294
idk I dont go there anymore because of edgy atheists.
It was intended to work by linking all google docs accounts together to share our ebooks. I think at its peak we had around 3000 textbooks. But I have torrents in my client with 5000 pdfs each alone, so its kinda... cute for todays standards.

>>60229313
yeah ok, now please come up with an implementation of nya for mailclients then.
demo is fine too, I just dont know how it would work without a usenet sub which is where the nntp protocol is used.

>>60229347
its best to implement it as an overlay instead.
Focus on redundancy, the wrap that in privacy.

>>60229386
no it does not.
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>>60229413
*i was referring to the database part, i understand why he deleted the site
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>>60229443
gnunet is already implemented and it works.
Same for most gnu projects, like gcc or emacs.
Also, none of the above projects were a clone of anything.
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>>60229467
Doing the same thing but slower and with a smaller userbase and with less support and with less modularity and with a more restrictive license isn't a compelling enough reason to switch imo.
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>>60229478
>wrong. trackers can be taken down by copyright trolls much more easily. See: TPB
Yes, trackers can be taken down, but copyright trolls can track downloaders much easier via DHT.

See www.iknowwhatyoudownload.com for example
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>>60229467

>>60229313
>>that would be great but NNTP is even less mainstream than IPFS.
>>And the advantage of IPFS is that it actually exists (as in: just download and run it)
>What are you talking about? Every single mail client supports NNTP.
>>so subscription to Usenet required.
>You don't need to subscribe to anything.

>>60229283
>Not GNUnet

So how do I use GNUnet and NNTP to download my animes?
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>>60229478
>For the last year I have been using DHT with PeX exclusively and it works great.
Enlighten me, what part of DHT exactly is better than trackers and how is it not shit.

>Everyone and their mom has moved to DHT years ago.
Mean while in reality nobody knows that DHT is even a thing. From what alternative universe did you just warp?
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I missed several threads but how come most of nyaa db was saved? Who saved anime? And also, a good place to find jav is empornium
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>>60229478
>yeah ok, now please come up with an implementation of nya for mailclients then.
Why should I exactly?

>I just dont know how it would work without a usenet sub which is where the nntp protocol is used.
You never needed a usenet subscription. Moreover the nntp protocol is not used only for usenet, anyone can set up one just like any other protocol.

>Focus on redundancy, the wrap that in privacy.
Privacy should always be the first priority.

>no it does not.
Sure it does.

>>60229503
>Doing the same thing but slower
It's almost the same thing but with privacy and much more features.

>with a smaller userbase
>and with less modularity
Doubtful

>and with a more restrictive license
What are you talking about? The GNUnet software is under the GPL.

>So how do I use GNUnet to download my animes?
Exactly the same way as >>60228924

What's with all these braindead people today? Or is it just a samefag?
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>>60226793
I made this 2 days ago, is it shit?
I wouldn't know I'm no computer person.

Links:
-The thing https://mega.nz/#!kloQmQSS!kRXUjT2i4Lqwmdf3IhAhzkkN2MoS-WL9fMpkjOMegcQ
-The other thing https://mega.nz/#!RpZkCDKC!-rjgVDLrClPrLdugtvyfFLrS91TXhz87ZYZR063yBF4
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>>60229479
Because normalfags are totally FUCKING RETARDED. Anyone not /g/ certified should never again be trustworthy, this is what everyone should take away from this shitty event. If I had the time and space I would backup sadpanda because it's equally important and in the event of its loss it would be even more devastating than losing nyaa.
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>>60229563
c-could i have an invite?
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>>60226793
can you please remove the "_blank" target from magnet links? it opens unnecessary pages in the browser being a uri link
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>>60229589
>windows
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Do you need to do anything else after building nyaa with golang and inserting the nyaa.db? It won't show any torrents on the site (ui is working though) maybe no database connection or sth?
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>>60229572
>Why should I exactly?

Because you suggested it and nobody gives a shit about what you think about NNTP? If you're not going to do it nobody is going to do it so fuck off and stop shilling your crap.
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>>60229622

read the github README
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>>60229589
Just FYI the db used by nyaapantsu is downloadable and contains the magnet links alongside with the descriptions.
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>>60229606
Oh you need invite ? I have an account for 2-3 years now, i forgot how i got in. Don't even know if i can inv desu, but its prolly the best porn tracker worldwide - who isnt there is missing out
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>>60229635
Already did, after the installation there only is the systemd stuff, but that won't help with my problem
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>>60229651
Yes please, if you can.
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>>60229628
>Because you suggested it
I simply made a question here >>60228379 you dumb faggot, I did not suggest it. I imply replied to the arguments given by the others. It seems that you have some kind of difficulty participating in online discussions.

>and nobody gives a shit about what you think about NNTP
The people who replied to me seemed to give a shit.
Why are you on 4chan even? It's a weeb site for random people to post their opinions. Why are you so butthurt?

>shilling your crap
It's an ancient standard, what makes you think that it is mine or that it needs my shilling?
By the way, when will you stop samefagging?

>If you're not going to do it nobody is going to do it
Again, why should I do it? I have no need for it.
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Recommend me the best hdd. I'm gonna expand my animu backlog.
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>>60229572
You're basically saying GNUnet and NNTP are not better than IPFS yet you keep pushing for those. Heck even you, the only person who suggested these alternatives, don't give a shit about GNUnet and NNTP beyond some worthless words on an image board.
Is it really that difficult to understand? Either you do it with GNUnet or NNTP or someone else does it with IPFS instead of GNUnet or NNTP. Stop wasting your time here.
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>>60229673

what's your problem?
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>>60229719
>imply
*simply
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>>60229733
It won't show any torrents on my localhost site, I guess its a problem with the database
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>>60229732
>You're basically saying GNUnet and NNTP are not better than IPFS
No, who told you that?
Again, please stop samefagging.
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>>60229511
so what?
its much harder for the MAFIAA to go after every single client than to go after one tracker to shut down large parts of the BT network

>>60229545
>Enlighten me, what part of DHT exactly is better than trackers and how is it not shit.
No single point of failure.
Greater redundancy

>Mean while in reality nobody knows that DHT is even a thing. From what alternative universe did you just warp?
you really need to leave the noobsphere occasionally.
Maybe try something else besides WinBlows10 by Microsucks and uBotnet!

>>60229628
this!

>>60229719
>I am most definitely not a troll guyse
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>>60229720
M-Disc BDXL burner and M-Disc BDXL 128GB storage discs.
Use any cheap HDD for caching/seeding.
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>>60229774
>I have no arguments. I know! I will start namecalling!
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>>60229774
>noobsphere
>Implying nyaa isn't THE noobsphere
really maked me thoughten.
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>>60229774
>noobsphere
>WinBlows10 by Microsucks and uBotnet!
>guyse
You sound very underage.
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>>60229511
>Wait just a moment
>The page isn't redirecting properly
Great site!
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>>60226793
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmbY4Ws1iNkCU7RN
9UefTpqUfKEex479gSnNpx4SD9tpFV
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>>60229774
how long have you been here? half a month?
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>>60229793
yeah? well I fucked ur mum, fag!

>>60229817
u sound liek a faggot!
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>>60229719
Here is you answer to the question you posted
>Any reason not to use a standard like NNTP instead?
Because it's not hip and cool like IPFS.
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>>60227978
bruh, read the thread. It was not EU shilling it was UK. Nyaa just got scared shitless over a cour ruling that didn't affect him in ther slightest.
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>>60229850
since 2007 actually.
But I dont come here too often anymore. I am mostly on Lain chan these days.
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>>60229774
>its much harder for the MAFIAA to go after every single client
Too bad exactly that is happening on EU.
https://torrentfreak.com/isp-lands-supreme-court-win-over-copyright-trolls-170505/
https://torrentfreak.com/attention-swedish-pirate-bay-users-copyright-trolls-have-arrived-160902/
https://torrentfreak.com/pirating-tv-shows-and-a-movie-costs-finnish-man-over-e32000-160705/

>>60229818
Buttflare ;-)
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>>60229765
So tell me how it's different then.
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>>60229853
>damage control
>I-I was just pretending guise!!
No wondering this is coming from a macfag.
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>>60229865
>I am mostly on Lain chan these days.
Underagechan
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>>60229890
its actually quite a bit more mature than 4chan.
Not that this is saying much
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>>60229870
Already did: privacy.
There are more things of course, such as that the standard implementation is written in C, thing like the GNS and other stuff.
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Could someone upload his compiled nyaa folder? I'm too shit
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>>60229511
Wow, but it's only show my downloads from piratebay, nothing of my anime shit. Why???
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>>60230019
because its a shit system.
The guy who posted the link is just scaremongering out of his cluelessness
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>>60230019
Of course shitty TV shows is their main target, but they build "piracy profile" of your anime downloads too and show that on court .
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>>60229511
>nothing shows up
great site.
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>>60229589
>>60229618
The local client listen in the op essentially does the same without having to learn SQL and (usually) works on GNU/Linux and osx too.
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>>60230084
Like I told, they can only scrape DHT data, not torrents that uses only trackers.
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>>60230110
And what thread are you posting in?
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Why are the page numbers on the top, and not on the bottom? Wouldn't one scroll through a list before going to the next page? (Or, it should really be in both locations.)
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>>60229511
Oh shit my neighbor is a weeb too, downloaded Chuunibyou a week ago.
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>>60229589
Does it really boil down to one single table?
If so then isn't just a bunch of queryable indices that don't need to be fully downloaded + some javascript enough?
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>>60230211
S1 or 2?
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All the obscure 90s shit I want is still in the archive, this'll do for a while I suppose.
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>>60230244
The whole thing, a 36.85GB torrent.
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Did Nyaarchive parse a different database, because there seems to be more things there. And comments, too, though I suppose that probably simply hasn't been implemented yet.
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>>60229511
>have dynamic IP
>site shows a bunch of Game of Thrones and other normie shit I've never seen

Heh
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>>60229511
>scan through 0-255
>literally no weebshit
>Meanwhile I've torrented at least 300 gigs of that stuff the last two weeks from public trackers

The struggles of a dynamic ip. Funnily enough I saw some free stuff on that list, like antibirth for binding of isaac.
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>>60230158
It's supposed to imitate nyaa's design.
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>>60229478
>source?
https://hal.inria.fr/hal-00645894/file/hMuleTechReport.pdf
Bittorrent's DHT is pretty much the bare minimum, both in terms of scalability and attack resilience, which is why even an pre-release DHT like ipfs is
instantaneous.
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Anyone have any ideas how to implement a fast index for searching by title?
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>only seeder stops seeding when it's almost done

Fuck you american nigger with comcast, It's not like I wanted this torrent anyway.
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>>60230337
Do you mean this one?
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Is nyanner's anon still lurking? in v0.5 some search results (not all) don't show parenthesis, they appear as &#40 and &#41. It could be related to the database though.
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>>60230522
Exactly, how it looks right now is based on this however
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>>60230265
I2P nyaa clone?
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>>60230542
My original comment was about being able to change pages on the bottom, which is not on Pantsu.
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>>60230541
Yes I'm here, can you post a screenshot or point at an example?
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>>60230567
Oh well, looks like I forgot that the page bottom has the pagination too during redesign...
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>>60230576
Try searching "Youjo Senki HEVC2".
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>>60230557
https://25cb5kixhxm6i6c6wequrhi65mez4duc4l5qk6ictbik3tnxlu6a.b32.i2p.rocks/
Seems like it's just a random indexer, anime section is just horriblesubs
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>normally obtain LWA through nyaa
>sub group doesn't even update their own site
>pantsu saves the day
Whoever you are, anon, I love you.
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>>60230659
>doesn't update their own site
What you mean is they don't host torrents on their site, which is fair.
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>>60230659
Who?
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>>60230604
Yep problem is in the DB, the merged pantsu one doesn't have the issue, I'll add support for the pantsu-db when sukebei DB is formatted.
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Just wanted to say you anons are doing gods work. Keep it up!

I hope you guys are able to make a new Nyaa torrents. I'm already missing Superelmo's uploads.
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I'm thinking how could this "IPFS nyaa" project possibly result in everybody being salty about it forever, it seems to go too smoothly. Just failing seems likely, but boring.
My theory is that it will kill off IPFS rendering it as "this animu porn sharing protocol", and thus it will never actually substitute HTTP, so we will forever have centralised Internet. Sounds like a nice monkey paw.
Then again, at least this way somebody will actually use it daily, which is more than I can say for it now, and I don't know how likely this is to happen.

Oh well, decentralised torrents are probably worth it.
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>>60230745
torrents are already decentralized
how do you think these new nyaa sites are at all functional? the torrents themselves still work, the only thing lost was the method of finding them
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>>60230745
nahh, Its already being used to counter censorship of websites (hell the reason I got interested in it was to protect data from the SJWs during Gamergate).
And since its built uppon Git, code distribution is also one main use of it.
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What is all the difference between stuff like IPS, DHT etc?
I'm fucking clueless
>>
There is also a thread at /tech/ for anyone interested
/tech/res/743303.html
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>>60230837
read the relevant academic papers then.
Or ask on Quora or read the wikipedia articles.
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>>60230835
He means decentralized torrent indexers.
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>>60230698
No, I mean they didn't post anything about the episode release. They have the post for last week's episode, and other stuff up to the 27th, but nothing after that; which led me to question if they stopped for whatever reason. But it seems that's not the case, and I found it. Just not hinted at anywhere on their site.

>>60230714
NoobSubs
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>>60230853
I was mainly just meaning in relevance to nyaa etc
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>>60230882
I just assumed you were watching asenshi subs with that screenshot. I have no idea what the other groups are doing.
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>>60229180
>Stop pretending to be retarded, trackers make things a MAGNITUDE faster than dht.
It doesn't affect your download speed. It only affects how fast a torrent starts up. once it's going PEX takes over anyway, as it would with normal trackers.
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>>60230898
well the original nya hosted only torrent files, IIRC, not magnet links.
That means that taking down the site took down the possibility for new peers to join the torrents.
with magnets/dhts the information normally stored in the torrent file is stored across the dht, thus with only a link instead of a file, anyone could join the torrent.

This is much better of course. Even though some try to deny it.
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>page10
oi...

>>60230837
I'm no expert but from what I understand, DHT searches for peers who have the files you need, in the swarm of peers that have connected to you or you have connected to recently.
For example, you're downloading two different torrents, one has 5k peers online while the other zero. DHT will ask those 5k peers if they have the other torrent too or if they know peers who have that torrent, it repeats recursively like that and it slowly collects peers.

I might be wrong though so if someone has better understanding, go ahead.
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>>60231212
>>60231212
>>60231212
>>60231212
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>>60231052
So is the new site going to be trying to use magnets/dht's instead? and they're just as easily accessible?
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>>60231052
You cannot reseed a dead torrent using only DHT!
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