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Windows 10 S was launched today, and you know it'll eventually be their only version. Question is, why are you waiting for in order to switch to Linux?

> Due to the low price of Windows 10 S OS, there has been made the limitation that you cannot install software into it by the normal ways. Nothing you have programmed yourself will install into the 10S for example. Instead you need to download all the required software from Microsoft Store (TM).

> Windows 10S can only use Microsoft Edge browser and the edge browser uses Bing search instead of Google.

> Office must also be downloaded from Microsoft store so its not possible to install previous Office licenses you might have laying around as volume licenses, into the machines powered by Windows 10S.


http://www.tivi.fi/Kaikki_uutiset/microsoft-julkisti-uuden-windowsin-halvan-hinnan-vastineena-tiukat-rajoitukset-6645873
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Ubuntu 18.04 with gnome
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>>60188438
>you know it'll eventually be their only version
Nigga you high? Windows is used in business for two reasons; mass management and software that needs it. If you remove the ability to install the software you need what's the point of it? You think businesses are going to want to ditch their Office licensing to install it using the store interface when they can SCCM/PDQ Deploy it there silently? How about Autodesk products and those million and one stupid bits of software the Revit guys are always finding?
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>>60188469
offline capable systems are offline for a reason
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>>60188469
>>60188473

Oh yeah. "Windows 10 business" pay a $500 license. Otherwise use Windows 10 S for free!
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>>60188438
GNU/Linux*

Linux is just a kernel
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>>60188482
go back playing with trisquel or debian stallman
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I'm not switching to Linux because Windows 7 exists
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>>60188502
until 2020
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>>60188513
What that support thing I honestly thought nobody on /g/ gave a shit about Microsoft's official support
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>>60188513
(incidentally the year india becomes a superpower)
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>>60188519
It's not getting patched. Any 0 day vulnerabilities will remain 0 day FOREVER.
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>>60188481
Business get pro versions for as low as $20 and any sane end user would just pirate it.
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>get Win10S laptop on the cheap
>pirate Win10 regular

I'm a NEET so this shit doesn't affect me.
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>what does the S stand for

shit. It's completely garbage. Fucking microshit jewing us with Windows 10S
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>>60188543
Just wait until they want to enforce Windows 10 S and you'll require proof that you're a business to get any business version which actually allows you to install stuff.
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They didn't copy the 'S' from the iPhone right?

iPhone 4 S?
5 S?
6 S?
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>>60188438
I think this will replace the free licenses they were giving to the cheap as shit laptop manufacturers but Pro isn't going anywhere.
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>>60188565
Or just pirate it.
Sure your "They will force that version" will work the same as the successful RT version right? Oh wait...
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Is this version designed for ARM processors, similar to Windows 8 RT ?
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>>60188438
>>60188438
downloading as we speak!

whos got the fastest internet? currently loading with 640mbit
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>tivi.fi
The fuck is wrong with you ?
You know you can upgrade from S to home or pro right?
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Windows 10S will not be the only Windows version available. Otherwise, what platform would developers use to create Windows software? You download Visual Studio, you compile your program, you try to run it, and it gets blocked because it's not coming from the store.
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>>60188653
oh no!
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It's literally the same shit as windows RT, just this time with x86 support.
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>>60188526
But no one will be targeting them because all the normies will be on 10 S
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>>60188565

>require proof that you're a business
No one does this. Even if they did, it's trivial to create a fucking shell corporation to manage the fucking licensing. Are you a business? Yes. What do you produce? Nothing. How much do you make? Nothing.
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https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/859502015935905792

Tim Sweeney tried to warn you about this, but you wouldn't listen
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>>60188438

>Comes pre installed on the new Surface Laptop starting at $999.

A cool grand on a device which can only run software from the shitware filled wasteland called The Microsoft Store.
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>>60188456
They are actually switching to gnome soon
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>>60188721
Yes I know, confirmed for 18.04
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>>60188688

Protip: Lots of normies have Steam. Steam is no longer on 10S. They're not gonna switch.
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>>60188438
<3
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>>60188732
>Steam is no longer on 10S
So it was?
I haven't really been following
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>>60188686
Yup MS is clearly retarded
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what the shit is Microsft doing?
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>>60188482
GNU/Linux is Linux. It's too late at this point, the damage is done. No matter how hard you niggers try, it's always going to be referred to as Linux.
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>>60188748

Ach, I may have been reading things wrong. Steam is still available on Windows Store, but you cannot use it to play Steam games. So it's basically garbage.
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>>60188802
>Steam is still available
>but you cannot use it to play Steam games
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>>60188565
See >>60188700
Just register a fake business. It's not only helpful in your dystopian future but some ISPs actually have business-only plans which are cheaper.
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>>60188818

In other words, you would be able to keep more of your Steam library by switching to Linux or Mac OS X than by switching to Windows 10S.
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>>60188802
Steam is an app store and gamer monitoring tool.
What is the point in steam if you cannot install applications with it?
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Calm the fuck down.

Win10S is just Microsoft's attempt at reviving WinRT because they want to pump life into their failing app store.

Windows exists because we can run third-party shit on it; that feature isn't going away any time soon. This is mainly going to appeal to poorfags and schools, as well as have it used on their lower-priced Surface refreshes that just came out. You'd have to be a gigantic idiot to be "surprised" by the disabled third-party application support.

If you aren't getting audited, pirate the better version and stop crying.
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>>60188876

Talking with people who have Steam installed.

That's... really the only practical thing about it.
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>>60188438
>Question is, why are you waiting for in order to switch to Linux?

I am switching to OpenBSD because it works better for me, doesn't have garbage like pulseaudio or systemd and my hardware supports it.
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>>60188526
W7 is already like that since you can't get security updates without spyware
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>>60188521
Pajeet's plan has matured
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>>60188617
No, the Surface Laptop has an i7
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>>60188653
You need special developer (((permission))) to write programs
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>>60188961

Psh, whatever happened to DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS?
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>>60188438
So what's the point if this OS then???
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>>60188521
india becomes a super pooer
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>>60188438

>and you know it'll eventually be their only version

The day they do that is the day they lose the entire desktop market. OP is a retard
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>>60188438
>Windows 10S can only use Microsoft Edge browser and the edge browser uses Bing search instead of Google.
Who the fuck would install this?
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>>60189115
You don't.

You get it with your laptop and realize you are cucked and have to deal with it
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>>60189051 >>60189051
>>60189051 >>60189051
>superpooer india
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>>60188568
nah, means schools.
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>>60188469
>>60188473
So, tell me why I shouldn't just be using Debian on my PERSONAL computer and just use Windows on work computers.
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>>60188438
So, it's basically they version of Chrome OS?
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>>60189680
Yup
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>>60188438
But /g/ is mostly consisted of Linux users already. Why do you still feel the need to constantly shill Linux? It's annoying and insecure on your part.
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Lincuck is shit, obly autistic weeb and gay manchildren use it to rice it to anime and watch child porn cartoons, even tho it doesnt even have a good media player for it
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>>60188438

>you know it'll eventually be their only version

This us what Linux Witness actually believe.

Go ahead and add that MS will also automatically make PCs with Linux explode and police will make raids on houses of glorious underground FREEDUMBZ FIGHTERS.
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>>60189726
No, only a local minority uses linshit who constantly need to annoy people by telling how good linshit is because they k ow its shit, so they need to justify their own shit choice to themself
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>>60188742
thank mr skeleton
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>>60188742
Thanks mr skeletal
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>>60188438
>What are you waiting for in order to switch to Linux?

A file manager that doesn't slow down to a crawl when trying to view image thumbnails through MTP
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>>60188438
I'm still surprised Microsoft is actually trying to kill x86 like this when the idea is fucking stupid and will only hurt them in the long run.

>why are you waiting for in order to switch to Linux?
DX11 Games performing at the same level or better than Windows, that's it really.
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Windows 10 M was a mistake
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>you know it'll eventually be their only version

Just like how Windows 8 was going to destroy all Linux distributions with Secure Boot
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>>60188438
> Question is, why are you waiting for in order to switch to Linux?
I'll wait till games will be ported to Linux along with Windows release. Other than that, I mostly ready to install Debian when the time comes.
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>windows store apps only
It will fail tremendously.
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>>60189728
>>60189735
>>60189743
>triggered wincucks
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>>60188653
>Windows 10S will not be the only Windows version available. Otherwise, what platform would developers use to create Windows software? You download Visual Studio, you compile your program, you try to run it, and it gets blocked because it's not coming from the store.
You open up visual studio cloud, write your shitty app in C#, press compile and it builds on azure servers then windows S downloads it and installs it in the hidden app partition you can't access. After you run it on your surface laptop you can submit it to the windows app store, after an automated malware scan that somehow takes two weeks your app will finally sold on the app store and MS will only take 30% of revenue.

If you make a GPL program or make anything capable of browsing 4chan your app will be deleted from the store.

How many times does the MS CEO have to publicly state MS is a cloud and mobile first company before dummies notice it? They hate home windows PC users, the windows licenses don't bring in enough money to keep them happy. They will burn the entire home PC ecosystem down without hesitation.
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>>60188727
Nope. 17.10!
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History repeats itself: this is why IBM failed so bad. They made a computer that was exclusive with some program but the problem was that you had to replace every computer since it wasnt compatible with older versions of the program. So most companies said fuck it we stick with the old system even if the newer one have better specs. Or something like that, cant remember exactly.
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>>60190586

Truth hurts, right, Linux Witness?
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>>60188438
>Windows 10S can only use Microsoft Edge browser
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>>60188438
So does 10 S actually gut Win32/Win64?
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>>60188785
Fucking poor people, that's what the Bill Gates Foundation is all about.
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>>60188653
>you try to run it, and it gets blocked because it's not coming from the store.
Then Microsoft can rest in peace. No one will buy it other than plebeians. They seem to challenge Apple but forget that most hardcore Windows users aren't Apple users at all.
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>>60188438
>Windows 10 S
>you know it'll eventually be their only version

So Microsoft has the muscle to force every single piece of enterprise software to be purchased and installed through the Microsoft Store? Like Oracle? SAP?

Every single one of those companies will tell Microsoft they can go fuck themselves with a rusty switchblade.

Actually, if Microsoft tries to resist, it might be the best thing ever. Then Wine would finally get some serious corporate funding.
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I'll switch to Loonix if it does become a forced switch
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Serious question, /g/:

Who do you think shitposts more? Pro-Windows fanboys who can't stop talking about how much Linux sucks, or pro-Linux fanboys who can't stop talking about how much Windows sucks?

Do you think they'll ever find happiness, or is their fate just to endlessly circle the drain of depression in a vain attempt at meaningful human interaction?
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>>60188438
>linux

kek, no thanks.

This is clearly a Chromebook counterpart, I'm not worried about it at all.
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>>60188473
oh I have no doubt it will eventually be the only Windows version - even though all your points are valid. Businesses won't switch to Windows 10S or want it. It's no like it's possible to force them to use Windows 10S today. But eventually doesn't mean next week, more like 5 years from now. In the meantime they will simply not upgrade or pay for the "Pro" version.

On "Pro", btw, I really dislike how "Pro" has gone from meaning "something extra for professionals" to "non-crippled versions that barely have the essentials the base model should have".
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>>60192462
>oh I have no doubt it will eventually be the only Windows version - even though all your points are valid.

>even though I can't refute your points, i refuse to believe what you are saying
>what i believe is based on FUD, but i'm going to stick to it as if it were the gospel truth

Come on, anon. Skepticism is healthy, but what you have is the opposite of that. You are refusing to believe something because it is counter to your insane pre-existing worldview.
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As of yet the only thing that runs this shit costs over $1000. Who is this even meant for?

My guess is that they are getting desperate to have a larger customer base in the store app, and the only way they could figure out how (besides making an actually decent marketplace) was to force the suckers who never realized that they didn't buy a real windows copy.
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>>60188521
They moved the date to 2030 recently.
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>>60188555
Why not get the laptop without an OS then?
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>>60192595
I don't think 7 is staying until 2030. Do you mean 8.1? Its original cut off year was set to 2025.
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>>60192146
Yeah I'm actually hoping Windows makes such a stupid decision so everyone will move to GNU/Linux.
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>>60190318
You should check the latest Steam catalog.

It's amazing compared to what the situation used to be. Now about 50% of new games are available for "SteamOS" which means GNU/Linux in addition to Windows.

I know this probably isn't good enough for Windows gamers. And perhaps not that impressive. But for someone who made the switch back when Windows 98 was popular it's impressive and amazing just how fast it's changed and how far it's come. 2 years ago there were basically no games available. Now there's plenty to choose between. Again, I know those who are using Windows may have some favorite game that doesn't exist or expect a lot more in general but to me the current variety is just fantastic.

I think Valve was/is expecting Microsoft to cause problems for them. Steam is essentially a competitor to their own appstore.
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>>60188438
>Nothing you have programmed yourself will install into the 10S for example. Instead you need to download all the required software from Microsoft Store (TM). > Windows 10S can only use Microsoft Edge browser and the edge browser uses Bing search instead of Google.> Office must also be downloaded from Microsoft store so its not possible to install previous Office licenses you might have laying around as volume licenses, into the machines powered by Windows 10S.

PFFFFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!

Are these dumb niggers serious?!
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>>60192625
>laptop without an OS

Good luck with that. Not only is it impossible to buy one, last time I tried they offered to remove the pre-installed Windows OS for a fee. That's right, it wasn't "sure you can have it cheaper without Windows", it was "we'll sell you the laptop and charge you $100+ for the service of formatting it so it doesn't have a OS on it when you get it".

It's easy to avoid that crap with a desktop, just buy the case/motherboard/cpu/RAM/PSU and build it yourself and install the GNU/Linux distribution you want. But good luck buying a laptop without a Windows-version pre-installed.
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>>60188709

You do realize Epic was partnered with Microsoft in the past and these days they're partnered with Ten Cent right?
Epic also provides it's engine to the MIC.
Sweeney's a hypocrite, although I don't think he realizes it.
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>>60188438
>Windows 10 S
Oh fuck off, you tinfoil cunt. It's just the MS version of Chrome OS.

As if they're just going to wipe out all offline versions and an entire fucking market segment.

If you think this then you are literally brainless.
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>>60188555
I bet they'll lock something
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>>60188481
nah I got it for free with the upgrade, have fun spreading your FUD shit tho
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>>60188438
fucking CIA niggers
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>>60188742
Date me Yuliya oohhhh your proprietary software makes me so hard.
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>>60193098
you should stop calling it GNU

it confuses people and is pretty hostile towards new users
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>>60193188
https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/laptops/
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>>60192836
>everyone will move to GNU/Linux.

Well, realistically, it will be GNU/Linux + Wine.

There's just way too much Win32 software out there to expect it all to get rewritten for POSIX with a GTK or Qt interface. Some kind of transitional phase is necessary (at least 10 years), and that's the job of Wine.

I really think it all comes down to how much progress they can make on Wine.
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>>60193188

>Not only is it impossible to buy one

Really? Because in my country, its very common to have laptop coming without OS simply to reduce price. Everyone and their mothers have free keys for Windows from universities anyway, why paying extra for something you already have?
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>>60192340
Windowsdudes in full damage control. The year of the linux desktop can't come any sooner.
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>>60194588
NEXT YEAR FOR SURE
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>>60194588
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>>60188438
>> Due to the low price of Windows 10 S OS, there has been made the limitation that you cannot install software into it by the normal ways. Nothing you have programmed yourself will install into the 10S for example. Instead you need to download all the required software from Microsoft Store (TM).
Every day we take a step closer towards a brave new world.
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>>60188438
>why are you waiting for
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>>60188438
You can upgrade from S to pro or whatever.

Its just a free version of windows to make laptops cheaper.
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>>60197646
Let the plebs have their locked down operating systems, there will always be alternatives for people that care
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>OS will only execute programs signed by MS
>blatant attempt to monopolize it's own platform like apple does with iOS
>instantly deprecates every single piece of software ever written for windows
>existing applications were the only reason to even use it
>mfw

I hope you're trolling me OP. For Microsoft's sake.
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>>60188898
one rational post and the only one that gets totally ignored lol
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>>60188438
Why is windows the only os that still costs money
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