>He buys from the company that is always second place, thinking

>he makes shit threads on /g/

Pleas kill yourself.

>>60184614
>caring where a person who has literally nothing to do with you gets their parts for their computer which they specced out to their needs.

I don't really need the performance, and I'd rather support the underdog

>>60184662
>I don't really need the performance, and I'd rather support the underdog

You people are fucking hilarious, buying AMD like they're some kind of charity.

Donate to a good cause, not some shitty corporation who makes awful products.

>>60184695
amd has open drivers nvidia doesn't

>>60184614
>it's always second place
>In imaginary race that OP made up

>>60184695
Intel price gouges to shit. Fuck them.

>>60184662
>I'd rather support the underdog
lol,this is the reason intel is on top.

If amd can't compete, they should go. they are the reason intel haven't had to make a new architecture and improve performance..

>but muh monopoly
if intel became a monopoly it'd be better, you know due to anti monopoly laws and shit. maybe then after splitting intel we could have real competition.

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>>60184775
Except they don't. They have way better price performance than AMD at almost all levels.

>>60184808
Some Jew lawyer will be like Apple makes CPUs so it's not a monopoly.

>>60184829
I base all my purchasing decisions on FPS. That's why my car gets zero miles to the gallon but I can reprogram the dash to play Doom.exe

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>>60184734
that's a good reason.

>>60184646
/thread

>>60184808
> they are the reason intel haven't had to make a new architecture
You realize they did make a new architecture and it flopped hard.

>>60184829
by that logic everyone should be buying shitty i3's.

>>60185043
ages ago and they didn't have to try again because amd couldn't compete.

>>60184695
Some of us have to take one for the team so we don't have monopolies and $2000 i7s.

>>60184614
I buy from that company because it's great to THINK DIFFERENT.

Maybe you'd like it if you weren't such a sheep.

>>60184614
Just stop it. Why are you people so butthurt over something no one is forcing you to buy, or even pay any attention to whatsoever? Don't even get me started on all the idiots who actively want anti-consumer practises to get worse...

>>60185470

They're insecure children.

>>60184635
this, for the love of God

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sure thing ranjeet

>>60184829
Why are you using 8 core processors against 2 core processors in this graph?

By that logic, no one should buy any CPUs since you'd spend $0.

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>>60184829
>"This post was brought to you by Nvidia(c) The way It's meant to be played!(tm)

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>>60184614
>He buys AMD CPUs and nVidia GPUs... for the past 17 years.

>>60185952
>>60186002
WTF ARE YOU DOING DELET THIS!!

>>60184614
>he makes the same threads every day on the same board, thinking the reactions will be "different this time"

>>60186002
Use alt codes nVidia®

>>60186002
We all know Intel is paying nVidia to gimp Ryzen CPUs in their drivers.

>>60186085
I honestly thought this shit was a meme but all the benchmarks all make sense now. I mean performance would magically get better when people switched to AMD GPUs. I know nvidia has a record of molten hot GPUs but they always make good drivers.

>>60186085
>>60186136
>Let's blame someone else

>>60186500
Problem is nvidia doesn't make shitty drivers on purpose. There has to be something in it for them to risk such a huge PR fiasco.

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>>60184614

fuck off faggot

>a8 apu
>7700 gpu
>fx 6300
Ive owned multiple amd prducts and i have always regreated it.

>>60186634
underage detected

>>60184614
>giving any fucks except for the value of your own dollar
Nigger

i buy amd because better value for money

but i cant say im not frustrated with them

>just wait dude
i swear i fell for it for the last time
i should have bought gtx 1070 4 months a go when vega was
>just around the corner

now when its 2 months away (real premiere in shoops not press presentation) i can as well wait
but if its postponed yet again i swear i will buy nvidia just out of spite

I think you meant to post this thread on /v/eddit, OP.

I don't though. Not anymore. Upgraded from an fx 8350 and r9 390 to a 4690k and recently a gtx 1070

>>60184614
>he pays premium to get cutting edge
>nobody cares
>the edge dulls getting outclassed by mid end shit next year
>gets mad
>shitposts on /g

>>60184829
>ryzen 5 is not there
>i3 better than 5 and 7
You know the best price/performance cpu?
Celeron D ffs, it rapes them all in price/performance.

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Then explain pic related Intel shills.

>>60186945
Everyone falls for the benchmarks at least once before they realize AMD is second rate.

>>60186945
the fx cpus were fucking trash.
I literally threw mine against the wall.

>>60187028
Why do they call you the clown of /g/?

>>60187019
Don't forget the way more expensive mobo for the Intel build.

> 4 hreads
> 2017
CORELETS BTFO

>>60187019
>save $40
>get significantly worse performance, especially single-threaded

>>60185164
i3s are a great value

The point is that Intel CPUs are not overpriced, in fact it is Ryzen that is overpriced.

>>60186904
>i buy amd because better value for money

That used to be the case, but it's just not anymore. Intel and Nvidia are now both faster and cheaper.

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>>60187084
I wonder who's behind this post...

Don't forget AMD lost 25% of it's market cap today

>>60187120
>still up 187% yoy
Wow, it's fucking nothing.

>>60185292
Quite literally every single new microarch of intelshills has failed other than p3

>>60187092
>>60187107
this, ryzen was overpriced.
the 7700k in fact is probably the best value for your money and only loses in to ryzen in certain benchmarks.

>>60187092
>i3s are a great value
>AMD rapes Intel in sever, power user, and mid end segment
>BUT MUH BOTTHOM OF THE BARREL
>MY CELERON VALUE!
Delid this.

>>60187019
There are 6gb 1060s cheaper than that

>>60187084
> 6 core / 12 thread
> getting worse performance to a 4 thread corelet cpu
> ever
HAHAHAHAHAHAH, keep being shilling more for Intel, I'm sure they will pay you.
ANYTHING performs better on the 1600 compared to any core i5, even games. They are just a few shitty gaymen that gets 5 more fps on the core i5, but that's it. Ryzen destroys Intel on actual productivity.

>>60187039
That's not very nice now, is it
I love my FX 6300, I got it on offer for peanuts and it does the job.

I would have taken yours and gave it a nice warm loving home. You're a terrible person.

>>60187128
It's all downhill from here

AMD stock was built on a foundation of clouds by thousands of online shills

Their fundamentals have been awful for ages, they just keep losing money

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>>60187156
God forbid you have to stream while playing vidya on a shitty intel CPU.

>>60187092
>i3s are a great value
you must have brain damage
teh moment intel gave pentiums 4 threads it made i3 ridiculous value proposition on its own


only the most barin dead retard or somone who have 0 idea about pc hardware would buy i3 now days

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>>60187156
>Ryzen destroys Intel on actual productivity.

Really makes you think

>>60187173
>God forbid you have to stream
How often does that happen? I've never found myself in a situation where I had to stream

>>60187136
>and only loses in to ryzen in certain benchmarks.
>and certain software
>and certain use scenarios
>and Dx12/Vulkan
>and multitasking
>and content creation
>and simulations
>and rendering
>literally everything that matters

Yeah, its the best in all cases except those where it's worse.
7700k - the best CPU for playing CS:GO in 480p, yeah.

>>60187174
The numbers don't lie, i3 is one of the best value CPUs you can buy.

>>60187187
see >>60187176

>>60184734
Dont forget the Radeon Pro SSG with M2 ports for 1 tb

>>60187173
>software encoding
lol'd
You literally have to find a game that loads up all four cores and then deliberately use a shit capture and encode method to pretend AMD has an advantage.

Meanwhile, libva hardware accelerated encoding exists and nobody with two brain cells falls for this retarded shit.

>>60187159
>I love my FX 6300, I got it on offer for peanuts and it does the job.
no fuck it, I had one as well. piece of utter garbage, still makes me mad to this day.

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>>60187144
You mean this single fan piece of shit? Yeah, it's about $200. Good luck overclocking that.
AMD's build still cheaper as faster though.

>>60187173
>6000Kb/s
>Software H.264
>software

lmao who made this.

>>60187183
Because you have no friends, my friends always ask if they can check out the game I'm playing.

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>>60187176
>intentionally omitting the multithreaded features of PS
>cherrypicking only the singlethreaded ones
>probably used the slow ram too

>>60187206
the rx 470 was the only gpu that mattered.
the rx 460 was shit and the rx 480 was basically a rip off.

>>60187176
>HDR Creation
Based Intel™. Thanks for bringing us many shitty HDR images, you're the hero the world needs.

>>60187162
>met EPS, up on a YoY basis
>literally eliminated all their short- and medium-term debt
>analyst median target price around $12/share
>even the most pessimistic analysts have their price target at far above what they were a year ago
>goldberg sachs still expanding their AMD position despite their analyst dropping their price target

Though you're welcome to pour your life savings into selling naked calls.

>>60184614
Better than buying insecure, backdoored hardware >>60168584

>>60187219
You really don't know what HDR is eh kid?
lol.

>>60187205
Fuck you, it tried so hard to please you but it's hard to focus on work when you feel rejected

>>60187210
>Because you have no friends
You don't have to make up things to back up your claims.

My friends play games with me, friend. They can see what I'm doing in game.

>>60187206
Why are you spouting nonsense? The single fan is perfectly fine in 99% of usage cases.

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>>60187176
> cherrypicking benchmarks
Just read this article, it was made by an Intel shill btw:
http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2875-amd-r5-1600x-1500x-review-fading-i5-argument?showall=1
Just accept it, Ryzen 5 destroyed the Core i5

>>60187232
Enlighten me then

>>60187213

ryzen needs:
>special mobo that supports the special fast ram
>which btw is more expensive
>not to mention you need aio cooling to actually overclock because once you go past 1.35v the temperature and power usage skyrockets and turns into a literal housefire
>ryzen needs all these to be 15% to 20% percent faster in certain multithreaded scenarios, meanwhile in single threaded still loses

also don't forget we've had actually ryzen performance for almost 3 years.
not so cheap after all

>>60187188
than your numbers are wrong

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>>60187192
>>60187176
I can cherrypick too

>>60187229
amd has backdoors too retard.

>>60187258
>implying
What's the source of "intel has backdoors" anyway? Richard Stallman's claims?

>>60187253
They aren't, you can look at the reviews yourself

Intel has by far the best value CPUs

>>60187258
These are proven to be exploitable to the point Intel had to acknowledged it.

>>60187203
You realize nobody takes you seriously anymore, right? Especially after THAT thread.

I won't filter you but I just want you to k ow that I think you're the dumbest motherfucker that ever lived.

HW encoding is ass and only used as the absolute LAST resort.

>>60186005
>He buys AMD CPUs and nVidia GPUs
Do Americans actually do this?

>>60187269
One good reason why i would ever EVER consider i3 when g4560 exist?

>>60187295
>HW encoding is ass

It's not though, it's by far the best for speed. It does result in lower quality video, but not by much.

>>60187303
G4560 might be even better value, I haven't crunched the numbers

Point is that Intel completely dominates CPU price-performance

>>60187307
Do 1mbps encoding with HW encoding and then on preset fast software encoding and tell me the quality loss isn't that much. retard

>>60187330
You can't just use the same settings for both, it doesn't work like that. They're completely different algorithms.

>>60187295
Are you retarded? HW encoding is brilliant for the little performance impact it has. Literally 2% performance hit for 10% worse noticeable quality. Enjoy taking a 50% hit to cpu for less than 20% visual increase, especially when YouTube and twitch compress everything to the point they look identical anyway.

>>60187307
Hardware encoding is designed to do a quick and dirty job just to get it done.

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>AMDrones will defend this

>>60187261
But it's true retard.
Any kind of hardware after 2006 is compromised.

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>AMDfags BTFO yet again

>>60187372
Just the market correcting for an overhyped stock. I'm never even bought a piece of AMD hardware, but I know poor profit margins aren't usually a signifier of low quality.

>>60187363
Tell that to my FPS when it drops from 60-70 to 40-50 when I enable HW encoding.

You've clearly never uploaded shit to youtube else you'd understand you have to use the highest quality video to get the lowest quality loss. And the quality loss when using HW is fucking HUGE at the same bitrate. Go ahead and do the 1mbps HW vs 1mbps with the fast preset software encoding to see for yourself.

rule of thumb: you must increase the bitrate by 8X to get the same quality software encoding with the fast preset will get you.

>>60187362
No shit you dumbfuck. HW is fucking ass and require 100+mbps bitrate to not look like shit.

>>60187377
Ok, I'll take that as a fact but what's the source

>>60187423
Are you just pretending to be retarded or are you really this mentally handicapped?

Also
>lying on the internet

I've recorded bf4 videos for YouTube using a hardware encoder and there's literally no noticeable performance impact so stop pretending you dropped 30% of frames.

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>>60187203

>le crashing intel cpu weeaboo man

>>60187462
He's just an ayymdpoojeet. They bitch about pascal allegedly lacking hw sheduler but promote software streaming.

>>60187462
>>60187423
>Your Anecdotal evidence is not as relevant as my anecdotal evidence.
Both of you are retarded.

I buy whatever has the cheapest price/performance. That has been Intel for quite a while now. Don't care enough to sit here and wait for an autist to debate me, just wanted to share my thoughts like a normal person, bye.

>>60184646
This, for every decision every human makes

>>60187462
>>60187515
I have a xeon E5-2470 server + GTX 780 GPU.

Sorry folks but HW encoding is ass no matter how much you deny it.

Using 4 cores to do my software encoding incurs almost no performance penalty

>>60187515
I don't even have anything against amd but this retard is trying to push his narrative that buying ryzen is compulsory if you want to do any form of recording because of muh software encoding. Maximum stupidity.

>>60187593
I have autism and you're wrong. Respond to this post or concede that AMD btfo intel.

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>>60184829
So I updated the chart with the Ryzen 5.

It fares much better than Ryzen 7, but still gets beat by the lower end i5s.

If you want to buy a budget CPU, Intel is always going to be the better deal.

Ryzen is just overpriced.

>>60187610
I never said that. All I said is HW encoding is ass and should be used as a last resort. And while ryzen does look good I don't see anything wrong with just getting a used 8-core xeon server instead.

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>>60187617
>price/performance
>by the lower end i5s.

>>60187617
see >>60187173

>>60187650
>HW encoding is ass and should be used as a last resort

It's the complete opposite.

HW encoding should be the first resort, only use software if you want the absolute best quality.

>>60187638
By your logic, the i5 should cost as much as the i3.

>>60187299
When the 6GB 1060 is on sale for $200, yes.

>>60187638
>no i7-6950x
fucking poor people ruin everything

>>60187650
HW encoding is excellent for the little performance hit it has. Most people will agree with me. Deal with it.

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>>60187250
Its a display technogly
have a look at these pictures.

can you see the difference?
HDR adds more colours anon and better contrast that is what HDR is.

HDR is the most importaint technogly since the shift from Mono crome RGB to VGA.

>>60187687
6950X performs worse than the 7700k and costs like 5x as much

Its gaming value is truly horrible, not even worth including on the chart

>>60187661
Most people DO want the best quality as well as youtube. Actually especially youtube since it butchers your uploaded video the most.

>>60187695
>still pretending reduced double-digit FPS is a "little" performance hit

>>60187715
If you are recording your gameplay, you are much better off with hardware encoding on an average system.

You'll be able to get higher FPS, which will improve the quality much more.

>>60187715
>2fps loss
>bad

>>60187739
>10GB video file vs 80
hmmmmmm

If you're gonna do anything beside play video games all day than having at least 8-cores is a requirement anyway.

>>60187769
>"If I say my BS enough times then it will become reality XD-----"

>>60187257
Not a realistic benchmark

>he throws his money at anti-competitive crooks

Ryzen shreds Intels lineup

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>>60187173
DELID THIS

>>60189128
There's literally no reason to buy Ryzen unless you do tons of video encoding and rendering.

Intel beats Ryzen at everything else.

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>>60184614

>>60189152
>use intel
>have a few programs open in the background
>fps gets cut in half

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>>60187173
>>60189165
>>60189166

>>60189152
>There's literally no reason to buy Ryzen unless you do tons of video encoding and rendering.
So, there's a shit-load of reasons to buy it.
>hurrr the only reason to buy a good cpu is if you ACKSHUALLY need a good CPU

How are you so stupid? How disappointed are your parents?

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>>60188882
>Not a realistic benchmark
>real life professional power usage scenario tgat actually demands as much power as possible
>NOOOOO DELID THIS
Corelet, plz.
I wish somebody did an ANSYS benchmatk running some sick dynamic analysis.

Too bad gay men are the only shit tgey test.

>>60189165
Source?
Is that streaming?

>>60189238
there's xeons for that streetshitter

>>60189254
Xeons are low power low performance cpus designed to minimize power bills for data centers.
And oh boy, are they getting raped by Naples? (Yes)

>>60184614
Different in what way? It's cheap and works, what's there to be different?

>>60184614
The only way AMD would compete is by sticking its ass in making APUs

That dude still tries to turn /g/ into shitfest, I think.

Once I saw that pic of all the amd employees in Austin I knew my next build would be ryzen

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>>60184614
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?DO YOU REALLY WANT CPU'S TO COST 2000 DOLLARIDOO'S?IF AMD DIES BOT CPU'S AND GPU'S GONNA COST A FUCKING FORTUNE AND NOT JUST FOR PC'S BOTH CONSOLES AS WELL.YOU MUST BE A PAID SHILL I REFUSE TO BELIEVE SUCH STUPIDITY EXISTS.

>>60184829
>Source: PC Gamer
>>>/v/

>>60187144
Yeah sure if you want your fucking house to burn down

>>60184829
>I make all my purchasing decisions based on how many FPS I get in video games so that means everybody else should too
The G4560 was made for you /v/ subhumans, now please stop shitting up threads made for discussing actual performance

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>>60189166
Intel corelets should be gassed.

>>60184614
It doesn't have always been on the second place. Otherwise AMD can also take a lot of money, just remember that 1000 € Athlon and the 7970 release. But even if you bought a 7970 on release you did good.

>>60184614
>he voted for the party that is always second place, thinking it'll be "different this time"

>>60190418
>720p
>low settings

>>60190678
But muh gpu bottleneck

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>>60187028
Kill yourself you perma-BTFO'd tripfaggot

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>>60187084
And then you woke up.

>>60187136
>A Broadwell-E competitor priced at less than 50% of a 6900k is overpriced.

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>>60187176
>Photoshop
>Cherry picking a literally single threaded application that can be run on a potato

>>60187203
Kill yourself.

>>60187251
[Citation Needed]

>>60187638
>Cost per FPS

>>60184614
What are you talking about?
Ryzen is literally better than Intel's stuff rn for anything other than unoptimized games

>>60184614
>he cares which company he buys from as long as the deal's good
shiggy

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>>60189152
Nope.

>>60190976
LOL VIRGIN

>>60191009
Not an argument.

>>60191021
dumb virgin

>>60190960
Which are 99.9% games

>>60191024
Not an argument.

>>60191009
Intel is the biggest contributor to Linux and I'm guessing they really like how Ryzen beats their 10 core CPU at 1/3 the cost

>>60191036
Now imagine what Naples will do to Xeons.

>>60191036
Intel doesn't give a shit about Linux performance

>>60187019
Don't forget the more expensive psu for the AMD build.

>>60187092
>>60187136
>double the core is overpriced
>>>/v/

>>60191063
Lmao.
They have their own popular distro precisely for more performance on Intel CPUs.

>>60191063
0/10 the worst bait i've ever seen.

>>60187784
It's not a lie though you spastic

>>60185328
AMD is the reason why Intel has a monopoly dumbass.

AMD is just token competition, Intel loves them. If AMD dies out, Intel will actually have to break up due to monopoly laws, so they keep AMD around as a retarded step child they can bully easily.

>>60191616
>they can bully easily.
Lmao.

>>60190976
Again, you are posting rendering and encoding benchmarks.

Anything else Intel wins, games, applications, everything.

>>60191629
>denial

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>>60191641
>denial

>>60191689
Oh no way everyone's are going to buy 7600k for their workstations its so superior.

>>60191689
Ah, yes, cherrypicking.

7600k is 40% faster than a 6800k

Makes perfect sense.

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>>60191704
>>60191719
The facts must make you so mad

Intel's processor that costs half as much beating AMD's in applications

>>60191737
Oh wow i will certainly but 7600k for my new workstation.

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>>60191737
I'm livid.

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>>60191737
Apparently the 6900k gets beaten by a $50 Pentium too.
Don't forget losing to Bulldozer.


Funny stuff.

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>>60191745
Maybe you should

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>>60191737
Mind if I join the cherrypicking?

>a retard ITT thinks you can replace a LCC/MCC Xeon with a fucking i5


Report him.

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>>60191772
Blender and 3dsmax? Wow Ryzen is good at rendering and encoding?

Thanks for proving my point!

Meanwhile in everything else it's getting beat by an Intel processor that costs half as much. It's just pathetic.

>>60191805
>he defends his intel purchase on an anime website

>>60191871
Sorry you don't like facts

>>60184734
Too bad they're shit

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>>60191805
>a 6900k is worse than a i5 and a 10 core Xeon

That's what you sound like.

>>60191871
99% of people here who own Intel would have bought it way before ryzen was even announced officially. There's no defending that needs to be done. It's not like the choice of ryzen was there before.

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>>60191904
6900k just like Ryzen is a very specialized processor, and just like Ryzen it fails in the vast majority of scenarios

Here it is being beat by a 7700k that costs a third of the price.

Remind you of Ryzen? It should because it's the exact same scenario.

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>>60191931
No it's not, it's a workstation CPU that's slightly overpriced.
But, like the Ryzens, it's a much better than processor than any overheating Intel 4 core.

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>>60191629

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>>60191689
>>60191737

>>60191984
Plus it has more than 4 DIMMs, for anyone needing memory it's either that or waiting for the HEDT Ryzens

The 7700k is a joke

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>>60191765

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>>60191931

>>60190848
Oh God What The Fuck Intel

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>>60191737

>>60191906
>There's no defending that needs to be done
top kek

The amount of shilling is getting almost unbearable on this board

>>60192134
Are you stupid or just trolling? How can anyone "defend" buying Intel over ryzen when ryzen didn't even fucking exist on the market when most people here bought their Intel cpu? Fuck off retard.

>>60191931
>6900k just like Ryzen is a very specialized processor
That's like saying Intel i5 and i7 are specialized gaming processors because that's what they excel at with its single core performance. Ryzen is the opposite of a specialized processor since it's good at everything you can throw at it, while Intel is slightly better in some tasks and much worse in others.

>>60192219
>arguing with a retard

That's not how it works.

>>60191772
>720p
Oh god here we go!
its 2017 we all use 240p!

I'm an idiot but I do remembering reading - and might have understood this wrong - that Ryzen CPUs are made of multiple segments of 4 cores each that work fast with one another but as the current CPUs have at least two such cores-of-four to reach the 8 cores the CPU has any transition from the first 4 cores to the other 4 cores is incredibly slow.
I also read that Intel CPUs do not have this issue as all their 4 cores are connected with a "ring bus" (the reason I remember this term is because I imagined a giant vehicle driving slowly in a loop like a very slow centrifuge and people getting on and off and me wondeirng why nobody builds spinning megastructures like that for public transportation to allow people to move goods and themselves around in cities) that makes this a non-issue.

Does this Ryzen specific issue affect any real-world applications outside of benchmarks?
Does this cause observable stutter if software is not specifically written for Ryzen - I presume video games always nicely visualize stutter, though I'm more worried about freezing/hanging work related software.

And unrelated to the above:
Regardless of my tech illiteracy I do know that most software I've had to deal with scaled well with pure clockrate on cores while not getting "faster" when adding more cores. Is Ryzen now actually good because modern software doesn't have these issues or is this this the same as with the previous generation where AMD had more cores but shit performance accross the board?

>>60184808
/real thread

that's the real red pill

by supporting shitty products you make Intel MORE powerful

if you let the shitty competitors die, then anti-trust laws will fuck them up.

AMD are a fucking cartel of patents with NVIDIA on GPUs and with Intel on PC CPUs.

you are delusional if you think AMD is a "saint".

>>60185952
Stupid tripcuck
Into the filter you go

>>60192575
Get the fuck out of here

>>60192622
> I'm btfo'ed
kys now

>>60192636
Take your conspiracy nonsense and fuck off, nigger, you've been posting the same cartel shit for the last 4 months.

>>60187173
>completely different areas
Incredible, stupid shill tripfag

>>60187638
chart needs 1600, 6800, and 6900. 6950 also for laughs.

>>60184808
>I don't know how antitrust works
just stop posting

>currently using an R7
>best consumer chip currently on the market
>completely shits over the competition
>intel babbies are mad as fuck
life is good

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>>60192929
>AMDumbfucks un-ironically believe this

>>60184614
>Preferring the exploitable Intel bot net cpu

>>60193113
>AMD market share so small nobody even bothers to try and exploit them
Would be like kicking your retarded brother

ITT: conflicting graphs and shill accusations

I just want to know which is better and this thread has only made me more confused.
Guess whoever I trust, it shouldn't be someone from /g/

>>60193156
>ever listening to /g/
>ever
You'd get a more unbiased response from r/amd

>>60193156
Very simple anon. Choose your estimated price range for CPU. Search which ones fall into to it. Google benchmarks of it that relate to your estimate workload. Choose one with better results.

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>>60193156
Basically: if you own/plan to own an Nvidia GPU and all you do is play video games, go with intel else go with AMD. It's that simple.

intel is no longer the place to go to when you want high performance especially now that 16-32 core naples chips based on the zen microarchitecture are gonna be out soon.

I'm sure you've noticed it by now but there are retards here comparing an 8-core ryzen processor to a 2-core i3 and claiming ryzen is "overpriced" despite raping intel in optimized multi-core workloads like HEVC encoding and only costing 1/3rd as much as a competing intel processor.

You can trust me because of all the hate I'm getting. Obviously these kikes don't like it that AMD is now competitive again.

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>>60193156
In fact I actually recommend the $60 Pentium G4560 if you only play video games whether you have an AMD or Nvidia GPU because AMD currently has nothing that competes with it.

>inb4 "b-hut it's just 2 threads!"
nope, intel was un-kike-ish enough to give this 4 threads.

>>60192061
DELID THIS

>>60193611
>2 cores
>Q2 2017

I'm sorry but I want more than a dedicated facebook machine

I want ryzen HEDT 16 cores (non X under 500$) and motherboards with integrated graphics and thunderbolt 3

That would be my fucking dream

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>>60193506
>intel is no longer the place to go to when you want high performance

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>>60193635
Good for you m8 and I feel the same way but my point still stands: if ALL you do is play video games and browsing the internet then I don't see why you would get something more expensive than a $60 G4560 which has nice things like HW 8-10 bit VP9 and HEVC decode.

>>60193759
These people buy consoles and browse on their phones/laptops not bottom of the barrel desktops

>>60193723
C'mon clown, it really isn't. intel blows in HEVC software encoding, blender, code compilation, 3D rendering, ect when compared to cheaper ryzen CPUs.

The only good thing intel has left is their $60 Pentium G4560. That's it.

>>60193703
Are you actually retarded?

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>>60193723
Kill yourself you perma-BTFO'd tripfaggot

>>60193703
16 cores under $500? Nah, maybe 12 cores.

And you're certainly not getting intergrated graphics (unless it comes from the mobo directly) or TB without a PCIe card

>>60193882
What a glorious day

>>60193882
Kek, this demolished whatever faint credibility this tripshit ever had.

>>60193985
You never know. AMD could release a 2.7GHz 16-core server chip for $499 just to spite intel

>>60194160
It sits in the same niche as 1800x so no.

>>60193882
AMD fags are so retarded they actually spent the time to make this picture and think it was some kind of amazing BTFO

Jesus christ people, seriously fix your autism

>>60193156
It's really fucking simple

Do you do rendering and encoding all day long? Buy Ryzen.

Do you do literally anything else? Buy Intel.

>>60191616
>intel release the pentium 4 and it's a failure
>even the pentium 3 is faster and thunderbird athlon along with the subsequent athlon xp comes out on top
>amd is now competitive
>oy vey what do we do
>lets force all vendors to use our chips and prevent amd getting a foot hold in the market

>>60194204
Jesus! what purpose do Xeons have!? GPUs can do all the rendering and encoding instead, It's almost like there's more than 2 markets where you can use higher core counts

>>60192219
You realize the vast majority of programs cannot take advantage of multiple cores

This means a processor that focuses on being multi-core like Ryzen, is going to suck at the vast majority of programs.

>>60194193
Pissphone detected

>>60191984
>gets beat by a processor that is a third of the cost
>much better

AMD fags truly do have a distorted sense of reality

>>60194291
Buy a Pentium.
I mean the only thing you run is facebook, right?

>7700k is a better CPU than the 6900k/6950X


t. completely deranged Intel fans

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>>60194331
>Facebook

>>60194349
Look at this chart and then realize how dumb you sound >>60194350

>>60194350
see
>>60189165

>>60187251
>requires a mobo that supports the new socket
>requires new ddr4 ram
>requires aftermarket cooling for overclocking
None of these are spesific to amd though?

t. 1.375v 4Ghz 50c with a 20€ cooler

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>>60194350
You need to be over 18 to post on this site.

>>60194350
you're retarded if you buy a ryzen for gayming

>>60194392
Agreed

And not only gaming, you're retarded if you buy Ryzen for anything but heavy amounts of rendering & encoding

>>60194407
>hey goy pls buy 4/4 abortion instead of 1600

>>60194407
Like hosting, virtualization, editing/montage, encryption, de/compression, simulation, analysis?

But hey, Intel is faster in GAMES by 5-10% at 720p with a 1080ti


What a joke.

>>60188882
Look whos talking. I don't think you're quite qualified to say that after the initial intel ones

>>60194407
>trades 10% ST (after deliding and watercooling and using 220 watts) for 60% MT performance and buys a dead socket


Literally a rabid dog

>>60194436
At 1080p 144hz.

>>60194462
Totally worth it. Especially the dead socket part. I'm going to be thrilled when Coffee Lake 6 cores come out and all the hopefuls with their overpriced Z270 motherboards need to go out and buy an even more expensive Z370 or w/e.

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>>60194487
Not with that stutter it's not.

You're trading some higher max frame spikes and some averages for lower minimums, you're still buying a dead socket, and you're still having to delid it and buy a AIO to cool it, and you're still using a shitload of power at those 5.0GHz and you're still stuttering.

Meanwhile you lose massive performance elsewhere for no tangible benefit other than wanting to have Intel.
Even your OS and browser use those cores, even Intel's Coffelake is putting 6 cores into mainstream, though at pretty low clocks.

Also I forgot to mention using a 2006 resolution in 2017, but that's how far you're willing to drop to have any argument so I'm not surprised.

You can continue to shitpost now, you'll be getting no more replies from me.
Enjoy your delusion that a 7700k is better than a 6900k, you'll need it.

>>60184646
/thread

>>60194507
>haha I'm gonna pop in my 6 core coffee into my $160 Z board and overclock it to the sky
>WHIIIIIIIIR
>*snap* *crackle* *pop*
>FUCKING AMD!!!

>>60194558
>le stutter maymay
Never ever got frametimes like these with my 6700k and the 7700k is supposed to be "better" so how the fuck are reviewers suddenly getting these results?
Just suddenly Ryzen is released and "oh intel has stutter problem guys look seeee"

>>60194573
Sounds like the Salazar syndrome to me

>>60194586
That's 7600 vs 1600 graph.

>>60194573
You know, I considered that this is unrealistic, but then I remembered we're dealing with Intel fanboys here.

>>60194573
Salazar leave not everything explodes you're just a moron

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>>60194586

>>60194462
AMD fags so delusional they literally start making shit up

>>60194600
Still applies
Is this limited to babylake shit? Becuase I have never gotten these results on my skylake system and it has SLI which is supposed to be "stutterfest XD sli maymay".

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>>60194436
Yup, a bunch of shit that 99% of consumers don't give a crap about

Ryzen is a niche CPU for niche use cases, it fails at nearly everything.

>>60194291
>This means a processor that focuses on being multi-core like Ryzen, is going to suck at the vast majority of programs.
Okay, too bad the benchmarks say otherwise. If what you said was true then there would be no need to buy anything other than the G4560.

>>60194643
You know all this proves is Photoshop sucks at anything multithreaded, right?

>>60194627
its limited to kabylake
if anyone wants to explain why kabylake stutters but the other XXX-lake arechitectures don't that would be helpful because I forgot why

>>60192550
Not in gayming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhj6CvBnwNk
Also you literally can make processes seat on a sinlge CCX in task manager.

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>>60194656
I guess most programs suck at multithreaded

>>60194671
>using js benches as a measure of performance
Oh holy fuck Ramesh stop embarassing yourself.

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>>60194643
>muh cherrypicking!

I also like how TPU reviewed a total of 3 AMD GPUs between Polaris 10 and Polaris 20 but over 20 Nvidia GPUs.

I'm reporting you now, other should do the same.

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>>60194682
Yes goy, it's just js benches

>>60184614
>bought 280X
>absolutely buttfucks the GTX 770 these days

really makes my spaghetti noodles al dente.

>>60194698
Broadwell-E literally worse than Bulldozer, AHAhAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>60194697
You realize your chart proves exactly what I'm saying, that Ryzen is only good at encoding & rendering

>>60194627
It's just Kabylake

>>60194698
Oh wew Ryzen is better than BDW-E.

>>60194715
You might want to re-read that chart genius

>>60194716
Only 5 of those fall under "Encoding and Rendering"

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Literally the only Intel CPUs worth buying today is the G4560 and the 7700k, Ryzen takes a big steaming dump on everything else and will take an even bigger dump on it when Ryzen 3 is released and you'll be able to get a quad core at i3 prices. Like honestly, what was Intel thinking when they gave the G4560 hyperthreading? They made their entire i3 lineup obsolete by doing that.

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>>60194734
Good point, let's go through a few of them

Let's start with Dolphin, surely Ryzen would be good at that!

Oh no...

>>60194728
Jesus christ it's worse than Bulldozer, I thought I was seeing shit.

https://i.4cdn.org/g/1493818153736.png

Oh our good friend day1 benchmark spammer is back.

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Seems like everyone recommends Ryzen besides Indonesia for gaming.

Intel pros:

8% higher average, 10% higher max
higher power consumption
higher motherboards and coolers

AMD pros:
ONLY rendering and encoding

>>60194698
>An i7-6900k is barely better than a FX 9590
Wow, what a good and reliable benchmark, you've truly opened my eyes to how much superior Intel Technology™ is!

>>60194802
Ryzen 5 is not bad for gaming, problem is that most i5s are just a better deal

>>60194827
>yes goyim buy ouy 4/4 abominations please

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>>60194823
Yes goy, surely it must be a bad benchmark, all of the benchmarks are clearly rigged

>>60194850
Delete this please

>>60194827
If you literally only play videogames, and if you do I'm afraid you got lost on your way to /v/

>>60194850
I-it's been patched

>>60194865
It's not just video games see >>60191737

>>60194850
>all of the benchmarks are clearly rigged, he says, while posting another benchmark where the FX 9590 literally beats a 6900k
Thank you for proving my point, Goldstein

>>60194827
Lol fuck no, you could make an argument for the slightly higher FPS in a i7, but i5's are both shittier in gaming AND anything outside of gaming.
Literally even the Burke and Salazar shills admitted there's no point in i5's anymore.

Good video explaining ryzen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lmEnA8pzHA

>>60189165
>almost the same fps in gta
Yeah, seems legit.

>>60194802
>Gaming:NO
>Jap, Chinese and Indonesians

How transparent, even the bleached shills at TPU and Tom's recommend it and they have a heart attack as soon as AMD is mentioned.

>>60194802
Where does it say recommends you faggots? It's a description of what was done in the review, not fucking recommendation. Indonesia "recommends" Ryzen for memory testing? for overclocking? what the fuck

>>60194986
>what was done in the review
>4gamer, gaming: no literally in the first row

>>60194656
I guess everyone now has to switch from the most popular image editing software and stop playing games to justify purchase of a Ryzen CPU.
Anons above are right - R7 is a niche product and doesn't derserve as much attention as it gets. It is all just a result of hupe. In reality there is literally no reason for an average consumer, who plays games to go R7 over 7700k.

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>>60195002
>average consumer
>buys a $350 CPU
>delids it on top of that

Hahahaha, oh wow.
You're gonna have to try harder, shekelchaser.

>>60194997
And you know why does it say that? Because they tested only 'productivity' stuff http://www.4gamer.net/games/300/G030061/20170410067/

>>60194901
>Photoshop
Oh wow, another great example of a program that makes full use of cores and threads, as evidenced by the fact that a i5 7500 is running laps around a 6800k. Why do you children from /v/ post benchmarks from program that you haven't used once in your life when you only care about video games? How about you look at benchmarks from something that actually makes use of cores and threads, like in Premiere where a 1700X beats a 6850X?

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2017-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X-1800X-Performance-909/

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>>60195043
You're gonna have to try harder than that, kike.

Gas chambers weren't enough

>>60195052
I am sorry, I guess everyone now has to stop using Photoshop because it doesn't fit AMD agenda.
You pick hardware to run software you need, not the other way around.

The problem AMD has is marketing. They should have priced 1700 at 500, 1700x at 600, 1800x at 700, so stupid maggots wouldn't bench them in games, because they are for serious ppl and muh productivity styff.

Maybe someone will stop taking the bait.

>>60195002
There's no reason for an average consumer who plays games to get anything other than a G4560, you mongoloid

>>60195082
How much does he samefag?

>>60195091
A fucking lot. He even created threads and samefagged here.

>games

You have to be OVER 18 to post on this website.

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>>60195029
>implying people don't buy i7s now.
Pic related - sales of a large german online store. i7s are way more popular than i5s

Oh fuck i know that schizo.

>>60195114
Now tell me how much people on steam have 7700k?

Иди нaхyй, зивoнeбoмж.

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>>60195114
See a single CPU over 4.0 there?

No?

But I guess suddenly steam surveys don't count

>>60195148
Этo oн пocтит IMG_ пocтoяннo?

>>60195169
Heт, этo вpoдe дpyгoй шизик.

>>60195164
>all those fucking mobile cancer chips


PCMustard race, literally play at worse quality than consolefucks