/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

For that anon who wanted a 96-key keyboard, ZZ96 group buy came outta nowhere

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfJa1_w-rRrZpD7HDDEXq1gy969SqapV0UH07rh75hAKPJIWg/viewform?usp=sf_link

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>>60170013
holy shit

>>60170013
>$300 not including switches, stabs, and keycaps.
No thx the AMJ96 is also chinese and 1/3 the price if you don't get the special snowflake case. Shame they sold out of the cheap version.

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I've never owned a mechanical keyboard, but I hopped on this drop a few months ago. What would be a good (relatively cheapish) babby's-first-mechanical-keyboard to pop these on to?

>>60170202
I should probably say TKL. I didn't get the numpad set.

>>60170202
magicforce 68 with gateron switches

>>60169989
I'd love a white iso version of the minila but it's too much monies, an hhkb jp (which has the same layout) is surprisingly cheaper.

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>>60170202

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>>60170013
>>60170186
I'll go to AMJ96.

>>60170013
I fucking missed it again!

>>60170202
https://www.amazon.com/84-Key-Tenkeyless-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01M18ADGD

>>60170254
2minimal4me, anon. I don't even have the keyset for that type of layout.

>>60170241
That doesn't look too shabby in white, but what about an 80% board? And I don't mind spending upwards of $150 at most. I just meant, no crazy $300 boards.

>>60170284
AMJ's good too

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>>60170013
What was it?

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>>60170305
But how are Outemu switches?

>>60170241
What if I want a full size keyboard? Any cheap alternatives?

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>>60170357
>full size keyboard

>>60170305
Mmm. I don't think my keycaps include a shift that would fit on the right side. Got a standard 80% layout you'd buy?

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What's the best bluetooth controller I can build into my mechanical keyboard?

>>60170565
Adafruit sells a good one, but out of stock and relatively expensive (+ infamous adafruit shipping fee):
https://www.adafruit.com/product/1535

On AliExpress there's HM-10 or HM-11 for 5$, but it'll be a bumpy ride software-wise.

Those are the only options I'm aware of.
If you end up figuring something out and getting something working, post your results here, because I'm also interested in figuring out Bluetooth.

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Does anyone know the size (in standard units) of ALT and CTRL on old 101 key ANSI keyboards such as Model M? It appears to be 1.5 like modern TAB keys - is that correct?

>>60170714
Yes. I just finished bolt-modding an old Model M so I have one in front of me and they are 1.5U

>>60170742

Thanks a lot for the info. Oh and, do you know the size of the spacebar?

why don't they make a layout that's 60% but with a function row. call it 70%

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>Signature Plastics

>>60170770
7U

>>60170853

Thanks.

Damn, that one is gonna be quite a fucker to find.

>>60170332
as much as I fucking hate you, I do like the aesthetics of those keys. Do you have a link for them?

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>>60171139
Why do you hate me?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tai-Hao-Purple-on-Dark-Gray-Black-Top-Printed-PBT-Keycaps-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-/272306898675

>>60171139
get these instead

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DOLCH-thick-pbt-keycaps-cherry-profile-side-printed-keycaps-gh60-poker-87-104keycaps-108keys/32791274444.html

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>>60170357
>full size

>>60171714
lol but seriously, the main reason i got a mech kb was because i got fed up with my huge ass membrane keyboard which kept getting in the way of my mouse. also because the rubber had degraded so the keys felt absolutely dog shit tier to type on.

Got miami dolch for my pok3r. Let the waiting game begin.

>>60169989
Can I buy a board with the switch already soldered on it and buy the keycaps separately?

>>60172424
Wasdkeyboards

>>60172445
They don't sell white cases.

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>Haven't used a mechanical keyboard in years.
>Build new PC, upgrade from laptop.
>Trusty, faithful laptops shitty keyboard is all i know
>Buy a Ducky one.
>Australian, mechanical keyboards are like unicorns here.
>tfw fudging most sentences.
>The keycaps are meant for a backlit keyboard, but this isn't one.
>Fuck you ducky.

Moving to America soon, what websites do you fellas get the dopest keycaps from?

>>60172536
aliexpress

signature plastics if you have big boy money, otherwise AliExpress got the dank knockoffs

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>>60172548
>>60172560
Thankyou cunts very much, i appreciate that.

Of all the sub-culture groups on 4chan, you guys are the least combatively autistic, and i appreciate that.

Does signature plastics make azerty keycaps?

>>60171384
>Why do you hate me?

You take terrible macro shots because you always end up zooming out too far to include muh gunz in the shot.

>>60172611
They make DSA and uniform SA profile caps which can be rearranged in any layout you'd like

>>60172666
I'm talking about the shit printed on the keycaps.

>>60172688
yeah and the profile is uniform so you can swap q and a for instance

>>60172712
We don't have the same shit printed on the numeric keycaps.
This is a pretty big deal for me.

>>60172770
Look for a group buy with an international kit then

Like go to Massdrop and search for miami dolch

>>60171384
>Why do you hate me?
I think you are very cute :333

gonna pull the trigger on a hhkb, but which one /mkg/?

How noisy are MX brown?
I got MX blue and I love them, but the noise is just way too much.

>>60173185
like a bag of sand

>>60173185
Just as loud, different pitch

>>60173185
Get reds and o-rings if you want the most silent mechanical cherry board

Are MX clear a meme?

>>60173185
Literally youtube
https://youtu.be/Rvlp6g_hNbw?t=75

Are there any smartphones with buckling spring home buttons/volume control?

>>60173353
Don't you mean blacks and o rings?

Welp, I'm converted. Always thought it was a meme to spend so much dosh on a keyboard. Only bought this because it was on sale for dirt cheap and it amused me to own a keyboard with 'Lolita' written on it, but holy shit it's changed my computing life.

So what's a good step up from here? Tenkeyless, non-knockoff blues, not fussed about RGB, etc. Hard mode: ISO plz.

>>60174032
yes

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>>60174080
Forgot the pic of my cheap shit.

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>>60174080

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What am I in for? Was it a mistake? Did I get memed on?

>>60174087
Should've gotten a Razer® BlackWidow™ 2016 Ultimate Edition.

>>60174081
which ones?

>>60174128
all of the iphones, also the 4g ipod nano

Is there any point paying ~5$ for a 100 pack of o-rings locally instead of ~1$ for a 100 pack from china? Is quality control at all a concern with o-rings?

>>60174157
its motherfucking plastic rings

>>60174157
the $5 pack is probably made in china anyway. buy from china if you aren't in a hurry.

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>Linear Zealios

>>60174192
Yeah but like thickness binning and shieeet

Don't want my travel distances to be uneven by 0.001mm you know?

>>60174214
now he's pushing it too far. at least with tactile zealio it's allegedly an improved ergo clear but this is just ridiculous.

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Jesus Christ, what the fuck?

>>60170807
Motherfucker. It's gonna be goddamn Christmas by the time they ship this nonsense.

>>60172460
There are a few chink keyboards that come in white like the magicforce and plum. While they do have keycaps on them, they are so cheap it would still end up costing less then a WASD keyboard if you buy keycaps for them.

>>60174572
What kind of switches to they use?

>>60174231
>improved
It's pretty meh, actual ergo clears are better, but gateron browns are the best ergo clear equivalent. They feel like ergo clears, but they're smooth too.

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Is Topre an edgame?

>>60174614
Outemu, gateron, cherry, kailh, greetech, topre clones, etc. Which switch type are you looking for?

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>fell for the massdrop meme
>fell for the Planck meme

My first set of after market keycaps are supposed to be delivered today. They're one of 5 or so sets that come with a 5.5 spacebar and im the only order on Ali so ill post pictures and stuff. Worried that FedEx won't leave it, don't get home till 6.
Which of these boards uses a standard layout so I have more options with key sets: ak33 drevo exclaibur and gramr, plum 84, noppoo nano?
I don't know enough to be able to just look at them and know

>>60174633
Cherry.
Do you have any links on ali or ebay?

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>>60174663
Eww. Get gaterons instead.

>>60174632

quite happy with my hhkb for how quiet it is but the obvious drawback to topre keyboards is the huge markup

>>60174681
this

>>60174663
which layout do you want anon?

>>60174714
ISO

>>60174730
60%? TKL? full size?

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Thoughts on the Anne Pro RGB Wireless Gaming Mechanical Keyboard?

Here's a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ1fsALtGXo&t

>>60174760
tkl

Hello /mkg/
I'm looking for a new keyboard to use in my livingroom for some typing and light gaming - my noppo choc mini has blue switches and is too loud, my old G11 is too bulky - I want something quiet, flat/ slim without spacing between keycaps (like a ThinkPad keyboard)
>tenkeyless or smaller
>wireless optional
>backlight optional
>mechanical would be a plus
Any suggestions? Looked up amazon and local markets but everything they offer looks like macbook ripoffs

>>60174777
I don't know if you want RGB lighting, but here is one with it.
https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32598358025.html#autostay

>>60174838
See
>>60174774

>>60174937
Not ISO.

ISO fags need to realize they're only harming themselves.
Admit you've lost and convert to the superior ANSI -- it'll be better for the world.

first for i just bought a pok3r

is this good

y/y

>>60175087
i think it's good

>>60175063
Butthurt faggot with tiny enter key.

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>>60174974
>ISO
Yuck. Go away please

>>60175135
You aren't fooling anyone. ISO is shit and I'm glad I made the switch.

>>60175135
The only butthurt people are the ISOfags who cry about getting less support from keyboard companies and group buys. You're minorities within a minority, suck it up already.

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What's the general consensus on Logitech's Romer-G switches ?
Are they meme shit ?

Can you just stop bullying me please.

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>>60175276
Gaymur's shit.

>>60175281
can i bully you, too, anon?

*bullies softly* uwu

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>>60174974
Then maybe get a Ducky keyboard. They make them in full size and TKL, and they come in pretty much any layout you want from nordic, french, german, etc.

>>60175063
>ISO fags need to realize they're only harming themselves.

iso is shit but it's mostly due to qwerty and shitty mappings of some keys, ansi manages to be shit by design

the only reason to use ansi is that you're from an ansi country, have a really shitty iso layout (like many european iso variants) or have a keyboard fetish and want the highest availability of cross compatible keyboards

>>60175167
>I want an iso keyboard
>>here's an ansi keyboard
>not what I asked for
>>yuck, go away

further proof that there's no redeeming qualities in anime posters

>>60175276
Literally all mechanical switches are meme shit.

>>60174777
>>60175439

if not coolmaster make some acceptable iso tkl cherry keyboards but they might be a little difficult to find

they even did a tkl topre iso keyboard for a while but discontinued it

>>60175485
ANSI was designed for programming, and it shows. But you're jusy a gaymer, so maybe >>>/v/ will be better for you.

>>60175513
Isn't CM ricing shit?

>>60175439
The ducky one has pretty much everything I want (ISO TKL white case and any cherry MX) except maybe for the unneeded backlit which isn't a big deal anyway, but now I want to be a special snowflake with custom keycaps and shit, so I don't know.

>>60175063
this

i come from ISO. ANSI is infinitely better for programming and better for general typing as well.

>>60175276
them being incompatible with non-logitech keycaps is enough to disregard them.

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>>60171384
Did u ever decide on a 60% to get or are you not gonna fall for the meme?

>>60174774
Ordered one with gateron browns last week. Should arrive in a couple of weeks. Going by reviews the only issue is the shitty high latency when used in wireless mode.

>>60175596
If you want custom keycaps the get ansi instead. It makes everything so much easier.

>>60175596
>Isn't CM ricing shit?

they have gaymer branding but their keyboards are fairly solid and some of the more sane options for at least uk iso and they do some nordic iso keyboards occasionally

>>60175725
Going from ISO to ANSI would be like changing the orientation of your toilet paper.

Can I convert a wired keyboard into a wireless one? Could be a fun project.

>>60171384
the gunposting is hilarious. i don't have anything against you.

>>60175773
it's more like switching from a babby tricycle to a big boy bicycle.

Do o rings work?

>>60175959
For what?

>>60176137
Reducing the noise.

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>>60175773
Its worth it, especiallly if you are a poor bastard like me. I went from an old cherry iso keyboard to an ansi model m.

>>60176148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWbQvEgWYWI

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>>60176148
Yes they do work. You can also stack multiple ones if you want to reduce travel distance

>>60175795
Yes there are plenty of blue tooth adapters. This one sold out in 1 week, luckily they came back in stock yesterday.
http://handheldsci.com/kb

Friend needs help finding a mechanical keyboard for gaming.
>Budget
£80
>Location
UK
>Switch
He has Cherry Red and wants similar
>Layout
ISO
>Form Factor
80%
>Backlight
RGB, he wants flashing autistic lighting
>Current
CM Storm Quickfire TK w/ Cherry Red

>>60169989
Recommend me a new keyboard?
Using a Razer Blackwidow X Chroma

Considering to drop the Razer sponsorship

>>60176484
kys

>>60176148
>>60176200
I wish you could get something that reduces the noise of cherries being released

That's when they're really noisy compared to a rubber dome

>>60176509
keep the hate

Why is Unicomp off Amazon?

I had a few things on my wishlist, and now they are all unavailable. If you search Unicomp on Amazon, you get zero returns.

>>60175524
>>60175615
>ANSI was designed for programming
>ANSI is infinitely better for programming

What do you even mean by that?
I like ANSI, but the big backslash key is retarded. Don't tell me you're escaping so many characters in your code to justify its size. Aside from that, I don't think there are any other "programming advantages" over ISO.

(i'm the anon you're replying to, btw)

>>60176510
Does it have to be cherry? Why not get matias qc?

>>60176796
Doesn't have to be Cherry at all
I was looking at a MAtias at on point but then they got bad reviews from a pair of separate sources at the same time.
That made me go off them a little

>>60176826
Matias keyboards are glossy trash, but they aren't the only ones who use them. KBP also has matias switches.

>>60176510
Silent reds and blacks have internal upstroke dampeners and I believe zealencios and gmk's plateless only version of those things externally dampen the upstroke too

>>60176770
brackets
semicolon on home row
etc

the \| key is pretty far away from the home row and it's on a weak finger so it shouldn't be the most important key anyway. and it's still comfy for \n and || etc

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>>60176903
>brackets
>semicolon on home row

what?
anon, have you ever seen (let alone used) an ISO layout? they're exactly in the same place as they are in ANSI.

>>60176854
Matias only has one non glossy keyboard, and its a frankenstein 75%. KBP has firmware issues, but they may have fixed them in the latest version.

>>60176937
is that UK ISO? then you don't even have a reason to use ISO because you're writing english and british/american english aren't different enough to warrant using a different keyboard layout. UK ISO is still retarded because of the tiny left shift and stupid enter, ANSI left shift and enter are much faster and more comfortable to reach from the home row

>>60176371
I would need a battery also.

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>>60176982
That's exactly why I gave up the ISO meme.
But no need to blame retarded locale's issues on the whole of ISO.

>>60176371
picrelated

>>60177018
no shit its wireless. you can recharge it very easily

>>60177070
Of course. But I need to make a port, and find a way to fit it inside.

are alps switches memes?

I have the oppurtunity to pick up a HHKB for cheap, is topre a meme or good?

>>60177559
i too, like rubberdomes

>>60177559
it's kinda polarizing
I wouldn't buy one without trying one out first

>>60177578
I'm in the UK so short of turning up to one of reddit's autistic meet-ups there is not a chance of that happening

>>60177606
do you button out your keys? if you don't, don't get one imo

>>60177613
Yes I bottom out my keys; I type like a gorilla

>>60176982
Yup. Brit here, I definitely prefer ANSI now. I don't code, I just type and use CAD all day, but ANSI is easily my favourite. I'll still switch it up with different bottom rows, split right-shift, even split backspace.. But the large left-shift and long enter key are deal breakers. I also prefer having @ on the top row.

>>60177578
I suppose I can always re-sell it if I don't like it? I'm getting it for $150

>>60177504
Fuck no. Alps are fantastic but are typically less popular as they're no longer produced (save for Matias clones), so most of the time you'll be harvesting from vintage boards, which limits your keycap options.

Try out some proper, good condition SKCM Alps switches and you'll see. The overpriced SA keysets and RGB lighting will give way to sharp, crisp tactility and clean, subtle keycaps.

>>60177559
>>60177606

the best way of describing topre/hhkb is that it's like cherry red/black or other linear cherry switches but with a slight resistance bump similar to what you'd find in something like cherry brown but it's by no means a tactile bump

contrary to what this guy is suggesting >>60177613 they're fine for people that don't bottom out (or do), unlike rubber dome switches you don't need to bottom out topre for it to activate as the activation point is about half way like on mechanical switches

the biggest issue I had with importing a hhkb was the cost, if you can get it for cheap I say go for it, if nothing else you can stick it on ebay

>>60177658
>Fuck no. Alps are fantastic but are typically less popular as they're no longer produced (save for Matias clones)

seconding this, matias quiet switches are all round superior to cherry brown and I have to assume regular unsilenced alps are equally as nice to type on

>>60177702
trying to not bottom out on a topre is super awkward imo

>>60177702
I've always appreciated tactile and linear switches (specifically MX Clear/Zealios and MX Blacks/Gat Blacks). I'll tell my friend to pick me one up then, thanks for your help.

Jesus Christ, why are aluminum cases so expensive?

>>60177400
Depending on the case you could fit it inside. Plenty of people on geekhack have done mods like that.

>>60177840
because metal housing is a meme and shitters will pay money for it

WHY ISN'T MATIAS MAINSTREAM REEEEEE
I WANT MORE KEYBOARD OPTIONS AND SWITCH TYPES REEEE
DAMPENED CLICKY MATIAS WHEN!?
AN ACTUAL GOOD LINEAR MATIAS RATHER THAN SILLY SHORT MATIAS WHEN

Any opinions on CoolerMaster Masterkey PRO? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5S9LIT-hdc

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>>60177756

agreed, my hhkb is type-s which reduces key travel even more which doesn't help, but I don't think it's comparable to rubber domes where you're basically forced to

>>60177761

pic related is about what you should expect but the actuation point should be right on/after the peak force

it's not quite topre/hhkb switch (second pic to follow) but should give you an idea compared to other switches)

>>60177840

because they're cnc milled in small production runs and because the people that will buy them will pay the markup

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>>60177987
>>60177761

I think if you like linear switches you'll like them, it's a tough switch to describe since it's far closer to linear switches because of how smooth it is over tactile switches but it's not just straight down

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You guys aren't plebs with out an official corsair dust cover for you $300 mechanical keyboard and mouse right?

>>60177987
>pic related is about what you should expect

top right*

>>60172782
fuck this looks so nice

>>60170333
Outemu blue user here, they are very tactile and considerably loud at first but seem to dampen over time. Almost Model M-level of tactility.

>>60177987
It's literally a piece of aluminum, there has to be a place when I can get one for cheap.

Does anyone know where I can find the least expensive TKL aluminum case?

Is Noppoo as a company done producing keyboards? Their website is down http://www.thenoppoo.com and the new Plum 84 with topre clones looks exactly like the choc mini. Are they operating under a new name or something?

>>60178103
this was a more up to date site but they don't seem to have any products listed any more

https://noppoo.world.tmall.com/

>>60178050
chyna has some
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mechanical-keyboard-case-metal-va87-anode-alumina-shell-keyboar-for-dc-ase/32719457013.html
Also a solid block of aluminum is expensive.

>>60178184
>>60178184
THey have to have some relation to the company "plum". The 84 looks just like a choc mini not only layout wise but the "plum" branding goes exactly where the Noppoo branding goes and they also use the same windows key and the same icons on the front side of all the keys.

>>60173185
much quieter, however they are also much less tactile, basically all you can feel is them bottoming out

>>60178216
well Plum uses noppoo switches so they obviously have a connection. Noppoo is probably the OEM.

>>60178235
I'm overly curious because I'm a bit of a Noppoo fan boy. The mini is a bit dated now I suppose but when I got it in 2012 or 2013 it blew my mind. It's more of a "gaymen" laptop than a typing one but they're an interesting company none the less so I wanted to see if they had anything new on the market. Can't keep track of these fucking chinks

>>60178050

aluminium is the cheap part, it's the access to cnc machines and tooling for small sample runs that costs you

as >>60178189 mentions china are starting to make knockoff aluminium cases but if it's not a popular case (like poker 60%) you're shit out of luck

>>60178351
wut? varmilo has always made metal cases for their keyboards, usually you find them on mass drop for cheaper, but its gonna be a while before the next drop.

>>60178007
>corsair cover for logitech mouse
>not using logitech dust cover

plebian indeed.

I swear you could make a living just importing mechanical keyboards, pcbs, cases, caps, etc through tao-bao and selling them at a slight mark up. Could get up and running with like 5k usd

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>>60176484
pick up an OLKB sponsorship

>>60178386
wow its almost like people are already doing that.

>>60178386
I'm pretty sure a bunch of keyboard companies do just that. A lot of Massdrop mech board drops are from tao-bao sellers

>>60178403
yeah well I'm going to do it too but I'm going to have a nicer website, advertise through twitch streamers by giving them free fancy keycaps and money, and then DDOS and smear the shit out of all the other vendors with mass fake reviews and muh booter

>>60174660

Follow this "guides" (there are examples in them) and compare.

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_by_keyboard
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Keycap_size_by_keyboard

Of the keyboards you've listed, chinkpoop seems the safest in that you won't need the extra keys your other examples have. While they are regular ass keys, some sets may not include them.

>>60178435
aliexpress is one of the biggest Taobao proxy service, so good luck m8. Also Taobao has their own proxy service as well.

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>>60169989
Has anyone here tried building their own stabilizer bases? I want to laser cut my keyboard's plate out of 5mm acrylic, but that's too thick for costar or cherry stabilizers to snap into.

Basically, I'm thinking of just ordering the stabilizer inserts, but either 3D printing or laster cutting (out of thick plastic) the parts of the stabilizer that actually snap into the plate.

>Out of stock
>Out of stock
>Not available
REEEEEEEEEEEE
I don't care about the price anymore, just tell me where I can buy an overpriced piece of shit aluminum case for a tkl keyboard.

>>60178676
silver or dark grey*

>>60178676
>>60178691
First of all what keyboard is it? Chances are you're going to have to buy a new one.

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Should I embrace Type C in my DIY build?

>>60178846
Really?
I thought the size was pretty much standard.

>>60178864
no
type c is a shitty meme

>>60178963
Elaborate or you're the shitty meme.

It's not that much more effort for potential benefit if Type C sticks around for a while. And it's reversible.
I see no drawbacks.

>>60176584
The way they ship shit is too antiquated for Amazon now

Why do people get custom braided mini usb to usb cables for their keyboards? I know braided means more durability but holy shit people are charging something like 20+ bucks for a custom usb cable when you can get one off amazon for like 5-10 bucks.

>>60179245
Oh fucking kill me nvm micro usb is different than mini usb duh. Its these phone charger cables that were braided on amazon.

>>60177933
>dampened clicky

Y tho

>>60179226
Unicomp is pretty antiquated in general. I wish they'd step up their website and shit. It's pathetic that so many chinese companies are putting them to shame these days. Will trump protect them from all this chinese competition?

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>>60175524

ansi key mappings tend to be acceptable but compared to uk iso there really isn't a lot of difference - for this reason I'm going to ignore mainland europe's iso equivalents because they have to butcher the programming keys for foreign characters (not that ansi variants are innocent of this, pic related is the abomination that is the standard dutch keyboard layout)

>ANSI was designed for programming

you end up with a gimped enter key in favour of a large \| key, the iso enter key retains the full amount of keys in that area of the keyboard and as a result if you try to use an ansi layout like us english on an iso keyboard you have *full* key compatibility

esc key is shit, hhkb improves this
delete key is shit, some keyboards have tried to improve this but none really hit the mark
caps lock is a dead key, hhkb improves on this by making it into a control but literally anything else is better - binding caps lock to backspace and backspace to delete kills two birds by removing one key
` key is fucking useless and the fact ansi has to shift it to get ~ is a joke
such a large spacebar is useless, can be shortened by at least a key or two allowing more use out of the bottom row

iso inherits these problems from ansi

as far as uk iso changes go, left shift is gimped since qwerty is heavily biased towards the left hand making more use out of the right shift, most subsequent changes on uk iso are because of the shorter left shift, you get an extra key out of the deal

>But you're jusy a gaymer

not agreeing with ibm's subpar physical layout makes me a gaymer now? if it wasn't obvious you were a reddit reject I'd suggest fucking off to leddit

physical ansi is shit and both ansi and iso has some dodgy mappings as I already acknowledged

>build pc
>need to buy a keyboard
>get hhkb
>can't play mount and blade without function keys

this was a mistake

>>60178864

type c is probably fine but micro has been pretty decently reliable given how much of a shitshow mini was

>>60179410
Chink capacitive buckling springs when?
We can't depend on a washed up American company.

>>60178864
You planning on 1000 extra keys?
AFAIK there's no latency difference, just much more data transfer.

>>60178864
No, use type A standard instead.

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Never here anyone talk about CODE keyboard, any reason why?

https://codekeyboards.com/

>>60179462
how's m&b doing anyways?

>>60179519
>just much more data transfer.
Yeah, because I'll be hooking up all the superspeed lines and writing code to support USB 3 for a fucking keyboard.

No, literally the only difference is the connector, and Type C is more comfy.

>>60178864
yes, doesn't make a huge difference but there aren't really any drawbacks either

>>60179609
Fuck you too. For all I knew you wanted USB ports on your board so the PC can be hidden in a cupboard.

>>60179549

looks like a bog standard slightly expensive abs backlit cherry keyboard with a slightly interesting choice in dip switches allowing for dvorak and colemak built in

if you don't need dvorak/colemak you're not really getting a lot as other keyboards have done the dip switch niche better

I do take issue with them claiming that mx clears are ultra rare though, they stopped being ultra rare when the mechanical keyboard meme became a license to print money

>>60179700
Dubs of truth.
Thanks anon

>>60179700

I will add that it's nice they do tkl as well as full size keyboards in a variety of swtiches

most brands stick to a particular switch or two and maybe offer a limited tkl edition before calling it a day and discontinuing it (looking at you cm storm green/cm novatouch)

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>>60175658
I think it's too small and fiddly for me, though I am looking for a 75% or maybe a common-tier TKL. Have not decided because my stronger passion lies elsewhere. I don't want to give up hard navigation keys, as I use them very frequently.

>>60172634
I don't think I've ever posted a macro shot in mkg my dude. This might be the closest thing to a macro, but it isn't really...

>>60179549
overpriced mediocre shit. the keycaps are what you'd expect from a $40 chinkboard. if you're looking for mx clear or something you can get it elsewhere.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/87-keys-mechanical-keyboard-TKL-tenkeyless-gaming-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown-blue-red-87-compact/32285359058.html

>>60179609
>Type C is more comfy.
Enjoy plugging that shit back in every second day.

>>60179518
I mean I like unicomp, but I'd totally go for a chink buckling spring that's a reasonable price.

>>60179694
I already hide cups in the cupboard, retard!

Shitposting aside, if I was to hide a PC somewhere, that would be inside of the keyboard itself.
I'm pretty sure even a full size Raspberry Pi can fit in a fat Poker case, let alone a Pi Zero.
Could be a fun project, I wonder if this has been done already.

>>60179776
Does it not hold well?
I only had a brief interaction with a Type C device, but I have not noticed any issues like that.

>>60178864
no
ps/2

>tfw no good tenkeyless aluminum case
It's not fucking fair. The one for the filco 87 has two stupid holes for the LEDs and will look retarded unless you actually have a Filco 87, and the one for the Varmilo keyboard just looks like shit and the keys just stand out too much.
Why do the retarded 60% compact keyboard cucks get everything?
It's not fucking fair, I need my function keys goddamnit.

>>60179813
Type C holds better than micro/mini USB without a doubt. If you have the clearance, though, I'd still say that type B or A would be less breakable.

>>60179859
fuck your aluminum meme

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>>60179748

>>60179859

MAKE YOUR OWN

>>60179859
I know this pain anon

I just want an aluminum case for my Ducky that would fit, but those LED holes kill the look.

Why are cases so common for the discontinued Novatouch, but none for such a popular brand like Ducky

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>>60174660
>ak33
cheap af
geekhack org/index php?topic=82683.0

>>60179859
>he fell for the TKL meme
use the stock case or get a more customizable keyboard you cuck

>>60179813
>Does it not hold well?
I wouldn't trust it for often plugged/replugged devices. Or with heavy cords.
Then there's anciently tugging on cords. USB C will jump out, A will require you to tug at 180, or so hard you rip out the socket with it.

>>60179922
i have type C on my phone and it seems fine. you could make a cable guide which holds the cable in place so you're not tugging directly on the plug

>>60179904
Literally how do I make my own tkl aluminum case then?

I don't care if I have to pay $500 at this point, I just want one.

>>60179999
>on my phone
And that's where it should stay.
It's not 'sturdy' enough to become a PC standard. By PC standard I mean a wide variety of environments. Other than photogenic iShit home setups.

is it worth copping a hhkb for a laptop? or am i being autistic

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>>60174381
So custom, much layout.
I ordered mine yesterday. Roast if you will.

>Budget
150
>Location (continent at least)
europe
>Preferred switch type
mx clear
>Layout
ansi
>Form factor
compact with arrow keys
>Backlight
yes

>>60175773
As someone who has been using an ANSI keyboard for the last five or so years, I am looking forward to my soon-to-arrive ISO layout keyboard.

Alright, I'm just going to buy a WASD keyboard v2 with the Filco alu case and hope for the best.
Wish me luck guys.

https://www.amazon.com/Anodized-Tenkeyless-Mechanical-Including-Detachable/dp/B01N7T4GI7/

http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/mechanical-keyboard/wasd-v2-88-key-iso-custom-mechanical-keyboard.html

>>60180605
Why not buy a Filco with a metal case instead?
mechanicalkeyboards.com has some. They also have metal cases that fit several different keyboards.

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>>60180740
>ANSI
No.

>>60180009

Look up tutorials. Basically, what you need to do is look at the seatings/screw holes/whatever the fuck you call everything that holds the shit together and then draw the same thing in CAD or Illustrator whatever. Then once you know the board will sit properly, you can do whatever you want aesthetics wise. Then you bring that to whoever cuts aluminium and that's it.

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Started work at a new place recently, and I'm working on a 2015 Macbook Pro. They provided a decent enough gaming mouse but a crappy old Microsoft wireless keyboard with spongey keys.

Took a look in my local GAME store since they have a keyboard display and have this one called a HyperX Alloy FPS. It felt pretty nice to use out of the selection they had.
Looking it up, they appear to be Cherry MX Blue switches. They might be a little noisy for the work environment I wanna use them in but I doubt it.

Anyone had any experience with this board? I'm thinking of trying it out, also have a voucher handy to knock another £5 off that discounted £70 price.

>>60180605
I don't think that is going to fit. I've never heard of Filco cases working on anything other than Filco and some Coolermaster boards.

>>60181024
will work, will be comfortable.

But most of the people here care a lot about how much aesthetics you can make them look, and gaming keyboards don't really look nice with diff keycaps.

Buy a different board, don't spend your money on that keyboardo

How do I customize the keycaps on wasd keyboards anyway?
Do I have to download and edit their layout file, or can I just do it with their built in layout designer?

>>60181330
Luckily, the alternate 1/2/3/4/W/A/S/D keys there are just that, alternates. They have a textured grip but otherwise the keyboard has regular keys on it as well, which I would probably use.

Aesthetically with or without the marked keys it looks nice enough to me, I'm indifferent to the LEDs and am mostly concerned with a comfortable nice working keyboard for the typing I do at work.

This is probably gonna be fine for me, will buy on Thursday when my voucher is valid.

>>60181376
With their designer tool you can choose the colors and predefined layouts.
If you have your own layout file, uploading that will bypass all the options except the colors.
You needn't register for getting the layout on the product.

t. asked nine times ten to the power of three plus one questions to them

>>60181496
nice, non sarcastically saying this

>>60181573
So I don't need to join a layout file if I only want to change the color of a couple of keys, right?
I'm asking this because nothing was mentioned about the layout when I was about to buy the thing.

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What could it be!?!/

>>60181615
Appreciated, it's my first time trying a mechanical keyboard.
I've been using this old ass SK-1789 keyboard for what feels like over 10 years, it's served me surprisingly well actually.

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>>60181680
Hmmm

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>>60181710
Forgot picture. Pretty sure it's membrane.

>>60181724
ah, reminds me of what i have to deal with at school, shit keyboards make me hate typing there so much

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Boxxy

>>60181633
Yeah, if you don't have a special custom layout, you need not provide one.

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Keycaps!!

>>60181787
Just open the thing already.

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>>60181913
They're packed so well I thought they'd be loose in a shit covered bag from China. +1 kbdfans store

>>60181960
whoa, thats the first time i see caps packed like that, usually just scattered or in one of those foam pad thingies

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This is the best part. Any protips for cleaning it out well? The bezel is high up so its hard to get the stuff out with my canned air.
Sorry for shitting up the thread but im excited and nothing was going on anyway

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Don't care if it looks boring, this was recommended to me by someone here and I just want to say THANK YOU.

>>60181960
You sure that spacebar is going to fit?

That's a noppo chink, needs a special spacebar.

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>>60182051
Yes im sure. Want me to link you all the says on Ali that come with the right size bar? I went through every single one.

I thought they would be thicker but they are pbt I hope. They feel really nice. I only have ABS AND POM caps so idk for sure

>>60180784
Aren't there ISO Filcos as well?

>>60182321
There are, but he thinks a Filco case will fit on a WASD keyboard, so let him spend his money.

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I like them. The profile is different than the stock caps I think. They feel really nice under my fingers.

My bad about the shit picture quality, I only have a galaxy s4 to work with.

Link to caps: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/double-shot-pbt-keycap-cherry-profile-rainbow-cap-for-mx-usb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-5-5/32799680240.html

>>60176484
fuck off you self important trip fag

Alright then you cunt, I'm going to order a filco.
http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/french-filco-majestouch-2-tenkeyless-nkr-tactile-action-keyboard.asp

I kinda wanted brown, but I don't want to wait till June.

Someone's offered to trade a Lexmark 1994 Model M for my Pok3r with clears. Is it worth it for me?

>>60183559
if you want a model M go for it, if not its pretty much worthless.


personally i'd take a pok3r over a Model M any day but that's just me

>>60182017
mech or cap?
that shit is 10/10

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>>60183664
Anon.... can you read?

>>60183689
oh shit i didnt scroll the picture down all the way lol im fuckin stupid
how is it? ive never used a ec board, except for a single key i have on my key tester

>>60182017
Now silence that shit.

>>60182017
It's really nice looking but you didn't actually pay over 200 dollars for it right?

>>60174214
he discontinued them do to unpopularity... wtf is this shit

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>sat on this thing until i received my planck
>out of stock since november

>>60182017
i literally just bought that exact keyboard and holy shit is it good

>>60182017
so it's a HHKB but without a useless garbage layout

>>60181998
protip: buy an actual camera that takes pictures instead of liquid dogshit

>>60175276
They're fine. I use a G810.

I also like Greens so disregard.

Hey, I want to make a custom 4 key keyboard for all of the special german characters(umlauts), i've never done anything like this before. if anyone has done something like this, how hard is it and where could i get the parts?

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i have a Razer Chroma and want to buy new keys because some keys (QWER) are fucking up sometimes, if I change the keys for the lower keys (BVNM) they work fine but have a diferent leverage (pic relatered) and if I change for UIOP it still fucks up sometimes.

Any recommendations on keys?

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>tfw waiting on these weeb keys

almost here!

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>what are the dimensions of a rectangular hole?
>"M2"

what did he mean by this?
it could have made some sense if the hole was square, but it isn't.

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pls help

most important country


<100


browns


full but i don't need numpad


don't give a fuck about lights

>>60185699
do they have to be national socialist audi quattro kraut space magic brand cherry mx browns or u ok with getting chinked?

if so
goo dot gl/1AK8DM

>>60185814
i'd prefer nazi science but thanks for the suggestion i will look into it

>>60185655
What the fuck are you talking about? M2 is a screw size.

>>60185916
He didn't ask about screw holes, he asked how big the mini/micro USB cutout is

>>60185934
Ah, I understand. Probably should have said "USB" to avoid confusion, the dude replying is probably full chinkular.

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>>60185699
sub 100$ and you start to get on xi jinping's wild ride

have you thought about the IKBC C87

>>60186182
is it quality ?

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>>60186754
>C87
I have this thing.
It's pretty good for its price, clicks well, feels good. The only problem is that the cable is not detachable(although it can go three directions) and it feels like your gardening hose.

>>60186754
I don't have one but

4.5 star avg with 34 amazon reviews

"PBT doubleshot" caps

"authentic" cherry switches

no branding, nkro, winlock

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>>60186874
>no branding
I wish this were more popular with expensive products, especially those people don't see like your keyboard(of all things). Does putting a razer logo on a keyboard really help them sell so many more keyboards that they have to do it?
How many times does someone look at their friends keyboard, see the logo, recognise it, and then go buy the same one? It must be pretty rare
logos take the aesthetics of a product down so much

Is mx grey a non click version of green? I love the way greens feel but they are so loud

>>60186855
if you could can you take a picture of the cable ?
and the part where it actually connects to the keyboard

Anyone know of a USB extension thay points forward? I've gotten to the point where I change out keyboards multiple times a day and I'm think of some sort of extension with a stand on the end would be ideal for doing this. I see the StarTech 5ft Desktop USB Extension (USBEXTAA5DSK) but it points up, would need it to point forward

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what about this ?
is corsair a meme ?


https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Compact-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B00DOWCQ0I/ref=sr_1_12?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1493790512&sr=1-12&keywords=cherry+mx+brown+keyboard

>>60187561

Built more cheaply then techno boards. I'd still opt for something else even at that price

>>60187561
corsair has atrocious quality control

>factory new platinum 120$ power supply fries two hard drives and a motherboard

>100$ gaymur mouse with premium aluminum scroll wheel shits the bed within 6 months

>'silent' fan develops bearing whine like a raped ape

never again

Are black switches the quietest?
I'm about to order a cheap chinese 60% board from amazon and they offer blue, brown and black switches.

>>60187625
Out of the ones listed yes, maybe think of a o ring for the key caps if you are a gorilla and hammer every key

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>>60187323
see if this helps

>>60187561
I made the mistake of buying a Corsair keyboard 5 years ago. Never again.

What is /mkg/'s opinion on MX Blues?
Is it true they cause arthritis?

>>60189625
arthritis AND gyno

>>60174774
>wireless
>gaming
trash it

>>60189625
Too loud.

>>60189625
>What is /mkg/'s opinion on MX Blues?
top tier for typing but it depends on your preferences
>Is it true they cause arthritis?
doubt it. if you're getting arthritis you're probably doing something wrong regardless of which switch you're using. all mechanical switches are probably much more ergonomic than membrane keyboards at least the membrane keyboards where the rubber has gone bad with time.

I just hate that this community is 90% reddit, geekhack and shills from massdrop.

>>60189764
You named most of the keyboard communities. What did you expect /mkg/ to be filled with?

What about Deskthority?

>>60189876
>What did you expect /mkg/ to be filled with?
Autistic people from /g/.

https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/429151
Hpw are their PBT caps?

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>>60189888
Reporting in

>>60189764
>geekhack
Last I checked we weren't defending companies that sell products despite not having fulfilled previous orders for the same product or bawwwing about affordable Chinese clones of awful artisan keycaps because they'll ruin the absurd artisan economy

>>60174145
no those are normal buttons

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>>60190009
Alright, but the home button on the S8 is actually buckling spring.

>>60190118
I don't believe you. isn't s8 haptic?

>>60190139
>>60190139
>>60190139

>>60173185
The sound you hear is from bottoming out. The actual difference in loudness between switches is negligible. They sound different, but are just as loud.