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nyaa dying reminded me of the pitfalls of centralization

torrents are half decentralized in that even without a tracker you can sometimes rely on DHT

however, that still leaves the problems of discovery and curation

what are the latest solutions to those problems?
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gnunet is the future of sharing and the internet in general
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>discovery
Just ping everyone and index found nodes
>curation
Encryption, also used in discovery as proof-of-work disincentivizes poisoning the tables.

I think I'll develop my own shitty mesh net in a few years.
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>nyaas dying
wha......

FUCK
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>nyaa dying
fuck, I didn't hear about this. the page isn't loading. is it actually gone permanently? Where the fuck am I going to steal my chinktoons now?
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>Commie Subs @commiesubs 1h1 hour ago
>Nyaa is dead
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wtf. is it archived or something? Will it be back with a different domain or not?
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>>60167053
there's only speculation for now, but they deactivated the domain so it's not like the other times it was down
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Dunno, but at least some of what was on Nyaa is also on Anidex. Not much, but it's something.
If Nyaa isn't going to secure new hosting, perhaps they can dump the .torrent files somewhere so another site can take them up. DHT does work fine so no need to even to even convert them.

But there's still BBT and AB.
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do you guys think it's dead permanently now? What's a good alternative?
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https://twitter.com/HorribleSubs/status/859156149018402816
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rip, I didn't even notice.

I'd rather never watch anime again than use CR.
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>>60166959
>nyaa dying
Fury of a thousand weebs incoming.

Fuck tho, any good file share lost is a net loss for everyone.
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>>60167264
I'm never using crunchyroll period because streaming is for faggots. you don't actually own anything you stream.
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>>60166959
well at least now i am forced to work on my backlog.
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I regularly post on 4chan and I've never watched anime. recommend me some.
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>>60166959
I hope ya'll made an account.
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>>60167430
boku no pico
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>>60167606
that looks like creepy pedo-tier garbage anon
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>>60167430
haibane renmei
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>>60167430
welcome to the nhk
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>>60167430
Robotech
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>>60167634
looks like you should leave this wobsite and never come back
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>>60166959
>tfw desperately slapping openbittorrent trackers into the tracker list and hoping for the best
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>>60167032
>>60167053
>>60167107
>>60167151
>>60167278
Sukebei ;_;
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Good thing I just reactivated my AB account.
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>>60167390
You don't actually own anything you torrent either :^p
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>>60167978
You can't like, own data man.
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>>60167264
What is so bad about CR?
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>>60167676
this
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>>60168008
You.
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>>60166981
This, but they need more contributors.
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>>60168166
A few of us have intentions to flood it with music and anime as soon as the next version is released.
We've been waiting patiently for months now.
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>>60166959
Vuze freenet i2p
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>>60168915
if only there were something that made up for the all shortcomings of freenet, i2p, and ipfs
some sort of, best of all worlds, minus everything bad
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>>60167430
Rurouni Kenshin. Japan was changing after the shogun era and samurais became errand vagabonds, this anime tells the story of many such individuals.
Fullmetal Alchemist (+ Conqueror of Shambala). The original series depicts a version of its own, a tale of tragedy and powers beyond our science, our dreams, and our nightmares.
Cardcaptor Sakura. The magical girl that inherits a zodiac of powers, also has to catch them all before they run rampant.
Sailor Moon. Main character is the reincarnation of a moon princess, battles the forces that killed her while trying to maintain a personal life.
Slayers. In a world ruled by magic, Rina Inverse is a traveling wizard looking for fame and fortune, then he met Gaudi, who possess an incredible weapon, and some very powerful enemies.
Yu Yu Kakusho. A student killed in a car accident is given a second chance, he must stop supernatural entities breaking into our world, but the an ever increasing powerful groups are more than a challenge.
Sola. Between romance and drama this can be quite sad and shocking about a boy and a girl, can't ell you much without spoilers but the supernatural part plays a role of getting in between the story of its characters.
Robotech (the saga by Harmony Gold). Epic space opera, consider watching the Harmony Gold version, there is so much going on for particular characters who are part of a major event but never for a minute you lose grip of love story or the action. With the invasion of aliens the only hope for mankind is an alien ship that crash landed years ago.
Saint Seiya. The legendary saga of Athena and her warriors is a cosmic fight here on earth. Mystical powers and a good plot is a classic you must not miss.
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>>60169025
How does gnunet work? Does it have IRC, torrents and email like i2p? Because that is what we need
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>>60169025
What does "serve unlimited data" means?
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>>60169104
I am more concerned about the meaning of "redundancy"

Goddam, that leaves me with a lot of questions
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>>60168006
>various arrangements of electrons on a circuit board
>a tangible possesion
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>ctrl + f
>no demonsaw

fucking tech illiterates on my /g/
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>>60169104
means you can't easily push everything on your computer to freenet, while you could with everything else mentioned there
>>60169136
means that multiple and changing people can send you parts of the same files and your client can't tell and doesn't care
some of these people can leave and new ones could show up
if someone completely unrelated publishes the same file, it will just join the pool based on the hash or something

>>60169068
gnunet is a replacement for the entire internet protocol
you could conceivably write anything to work over gnunet
it is a suite of protocols, not a program
they also have one of the few remaining pleebnet navigable wobsites https://gnunet.org/
very informative if you have any questions
if something isn't answered for you there, you might have luck in their room no freenode
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>>60169180
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>>60169025
if only it had any users or content
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tokyo toshokan still works right?
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>>60169337
i prefer https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd
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>>60169345
Nah dude, I think they died last year or so.

Well, fuck. I regret letting my animebytes account lapse like 3 years ago, I had a healthy library and was just working on currently airing stuff so I downloaded nothing new there for a few months and got kicked. Sucks.
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>>60169444
animetorrents.me had open sign up not long ago, they're not too bad.

Also if you just want new release fansubs a lot of the fansub groups have their own RSS with torrents.
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>>60169393
oh my god thanks
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>>60169235
Thanks for the link, I see if they have a brief review on the protocol, if is anything like what you say I am favoring gnunet over anything else
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I sometimes use perfectdark for weeb stuff.
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>>60167430
Last Exile
Mushishi
Saikano
Kaiba(don't let the art style fool you)
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Okay guys, after looking at how GNUnet works I am fucking sold

forget Tor and even i2p, we need to have this shit up and running for email and torrenting
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>>60169874
don't bother, it's a honeypot
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>>60166959
Where the fuck am I going to download My Hero Academia now?!
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>>60169990
fuck off CIA
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>>60167430

PLANETES

moot himself personally recommended me it and it was the best Chinese cartoon i've ever watched
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>>60169874
I have been waiting for like 8 months for the next major (supposedly not backwards compatible) version to be released.
When it finally does, I will be putting up 3TB of anime, 2TB of (non dead) music, and 6TB of Grateful Dead recordings.
I don't know about making clients that actually do important things like you're talking about, but at least I can make the network more appealing and interesting contentwise.
What we \emph{really} need is someone to overhaul their terrible stock GUIs - If anyone can into gtk and is looking for a project, please help.
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nyaa died? what the fuck!
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>>60170273
Same here. I got a shit ton of music I got from what.cd before it died. I think I'll set up gnunet on my home server and start sharing it. It's not like my home connection contributed anything to my ratio anyway.
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>wow 70gb for victory gundam blurays? shit thats a fucking pain I'd have to check if I have enough space and whatever, plus I haven't even watched F91 yet, I'll deal with it tomorrow
>get back from work and nyaa is KIA
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>>60170273
>>60170348
I'll be dumping too, goddam, music, movies, documentaries, ebooks, even videogames, have near 5TB between that

I understand the need for GUIs, but I want to use my CLI clients for mail and torrent

I mean, I'll be happy to use mutt and something resembling transmission-remote-cli, and maybe even have the chance of using irssi if IRC is available
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>>60169345
>>60169444
they changed suffixes but they're still up
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>>60170481
The gnunet cli interaction is baller, but I'm looking out for pleebs who just want it to look and behave like Transmission or whatever.
I have no desire to cater to wangblows users, but some people just want guis and this will never be viable unless we get more people using it.
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>Think this isn't much of a big deal
>Suddenly remember that's the place where i get Illusion games once a year
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>>60170591
Yeah fuck off, forcing people into cli just screams 'muh autofellatio autism club'
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>>60170625
Hongfire is still full of autists who painstakingly translate and mod every one of those games, a magnet will be posted there at the very least.
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>>60168403
>>60170273
>>60170348
>>60170481
Forgive me if this is a stupid question but why are you guys waiting for the next release? Why not now?
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>>60170642
>Yeah I'm gonna eng patch this game but fuck these loli scenes you don't get those, I'm removing those.
>You're also not allowed to complain >:(((((
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>>60170641
did you even read that post?
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>>60170750
Because I heard that it will not be back compatible with the current version.
I figured there was no point in trying to get people to use it if everything they put up would just be lost in a couple weeks[months].
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>>60170591
I just hope they make a middleman to work with my cli applications, take irssi for example, it can work with any port you throw at, is enough flexible to not need more than an intermediary and probably is among the easiest things to do with gnunet, and IRC is so much good publicity than gnunet will benefit too

I dream of the this working anon
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>>60170921
Were you the one in their freenet room talking about IRC over gnunet?
If not someone is making this happen for you anon, rejoice!
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>>60170942
s/net/node/
god dammit
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>>60167430
Azumanga Daioh
Lucky Star
K-On
Yuyushiki
Nichijou
Non Non Biyori
Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka?
Kiniro Mosaic
Yuru Yuri
Minami ke
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>>60170942
Oh god, it wasn't me, is a glorious day anon!
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>>60170642
Hongfire is THE worst page in the whole internet to browse or look for content
>Hurr let's use Bulletin Board System to list content
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>>60170962
just search the name of the game after seeing it pop up on getchu.
it's not hard.
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>>60167430
We made a chart about it. Also, Legend of Galatic Heroes or Aria.
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>people actually answering an anime request post truthfully
>faggot not being told to lurk more/harder
>only one boku no pico
if it wasn't obvious before, this site is officially dead
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>>60171078
this isn't /a/
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>>60171278
ANIME WEBSITE
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>>60171078
>people responding with content instead of shitposting the thread to death

site is more alive than ever
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Can anyone make sense of this? I ran dig on nyaa and another domain I found in the record but I don't know anything about DNS. To me it looks like whoever they registered the domain with is having issues if registry-default.nic.se is having an identical problem, no?
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>>60172553
Whois indicates that the domain has been deactivated.
It's dead.
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>>60167665
I watched that and I have no idea what it was actually about
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>>60167430

Great Teacher Onizuka
Salaryman Kintaro
Golden Boy
Mushishi
Natsume Yuujinchou
Mob Psycho 100
The Original Dragonball
Fist of the North Star

Someone rate my taste
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>>60173930
Shit/10
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>>60173889
It's not really "about" anything, it's just some nice characters and seeing what goes on in their little world.
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Is IPFS going anywhere?
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>>60170953
>Yuri SoL shit
You have terrible taste. Never post again.
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>dont mind us were just pirating this torrent
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>>60170060
who?
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>>60174708
Don't bully him and fuck off.
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>>60174708
>hating on Azumanga Daioh
How does it feel to have a giant horsecock shoved in your underage asshole all the fucking time?
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>>60170953
Forgot to add Aria, Sora no Woto, Kemono Friends, and Gintama.
>>60174708
It's like you don't like girls or something.
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https://torrentfreak.com/anime-torrent-site-nyaa-goes-down-after-domain-name-deactivation-170502/
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>>60174708
If you watch anime for any reason besides cute girls you are doing it wrong.
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>still using torrents and not XDCC
unforgivable.jpg
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>>60176756
i only use XDCC if i need to, for the benefit of the XDCC servers
torrents are generally faster and they reduce the load on the source
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>>60169254
>Some combinations of atoms
>Produces a naked child

really makes you think doesn't it.
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>>60166959
> nyaa died
FILL ME IN
> tfw I just set up all my RSS feeds for this season
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>>60177013
>FILL ME IN
nyaa died
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>>60177013
regex will work on any tracker,the file names will be the same, just replace the tracker you're using
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>>60177033
I'm using the deluge plugin but you're right
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>>60166981
Windows binaries when?
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>>60167430
Anything made by KyoAni is a masterpiece
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>>60174800
>not knowing moot
get out
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>>60177711
>falling this easily
I'd say nice dubs, but you're a fag.
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>>60177728
Different anon, but to be fair, there are more and more people these days unironically not know who moot is.
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>>60177711
"who is moot" has been since the day he left us.
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>>60178013
just a newfag who thinks reading about 4chan on wikipedia is a substitute to lurking
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>>60178013
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>>60178300
Now for something /g/ related.
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>>60167264
I mean, HorribleSubs literally just rips straight from CR so unless you're watching old shows w/ well done fansubs you're probably watching CR subs + video quality anyway
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>>60177176
>wants to use freedom respecting privacy software
>on windows
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>>60167430
Jojo's Bizarre Adventures (2012)
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>>60166981
that's a funny way to spell urbit
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>>60179185
with this attitude you're only looking like an elitist

it's better that people use free software on proprietary shitware than to not use it at all

users are power for the movement and for the quality of network dependent programs
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>>60176958
You can physically possess discrete[0] atoms, though. You can't possess the concept of a binary choice.

[0] don't even try
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>>60171078
Go back to /a/
/g/ is where I got my first recommendation 4 or 5 years ago
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>>60182609
I would rather spend my time with someone who actually cared about freedom but happened to still use nonfree software on occasion for work or something, than someone who only used free software because it is better/safer or something and didn't really care about freedom.
As a developer, I have absolutely no interest in catering to what windows users want/need.
What I implied was simply rational, not elitist - There is no semblance of reason in someone wanting to run anonymizing software on top of a proprietary OS.
I don't have a problem with elitism though - The industry and internet went to shit pandering to casuals, retards, and normalfags.
If you can see how based GNUnet is and want to be a part of it, you can step away from your harmful unusable manchild prison and join us in the beautiful frontier playground of freedom - We'll be more than happy to help.
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>>60184711
>There is no semblance of reason in someone wanting to run anonymizing software on top of a proprietary OS.
obviously it's counterintuitive but offering it helps people on proprietary platforms realize its benefit

I don't support it too much because I don't think developers should prioritize proprietary OS support and waste too much time. However, having proprietary platform support helps open the free software movement to more people (something we desperately need)

I think the stance they have taken with Emacs Windows binaries was great for the FSF for example

It's hard for most normals to jump over OSes and afaik GNUnet is only as good as its community of peers
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>>60169045
>Robotech (the saga by Harmony Gold)

YOU NIGGER
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>>60170953
>forgetting Manabi Straight
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>>60185698
cry me a river, they edited really nice
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>>60167430
GTO
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>>60167430
Kill la Kill
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Seriously, does anybody here even believe that even 1% of /a/utists will go out of their way to adopt GNUNet just to distribute their weeb stuff?
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>>60187047
>yfw with the way the social and political winds are blowing globally in regards to witch hunting, profiteering, and censorship, not just weebs but everyone everywhere will be forced to use things like gnunet for anything
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>>60166959
Now that weeb manchildren have all the time

Join the Nazi party and revolt

The fourth Reich will join with Japan to provide a waifu to every loyal soldier
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>>60187160
>>>/pol/
>>>/reddit/
>>>/away/
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>>60187223
>>>/c//u//ck//o/l/d/
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>>60185817
I'm gonna massugu go kill myself. Thanks for the heads up.
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anyone have a recommended i2p torrent client? preferably non-java, with a cli or web interface
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blockchain
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>>60187047
>go out of their way to adopt GNUNet
You say that like using GNUNet means never ever being able to use the World Wide Web again.

If you think of using GNUNet as installing a special kind of torrent client, what's the problem?
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>>60169874
>GNUnet
>not ipfs
once they get a good CRDT baked in you'll literally be able to have distributed webapps self manage to share files.

I was looking into making a booru like webapp for ipfs, but CRDT is a necessary first step
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>>60174502
eventually. see >>60187954
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>>60170642
hongfire got hacked and is STILL REELING from it

they're completely incompetent
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>>60187954
ipfs is a dumb maym
>anonymity as a thirdparty afterthought
yeah, no
this is the root of all the problems we're currently facing
any future network must have privacy baked into it from the get go
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>>60188004
not everything benefits from anonymity, and all current methods of anonymity have high speed/latency penalties, it's by no means free
while it would be ideal to have anonymity baked in, it's just not practical
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>>60188004
It's impossible to be anonymous if you want packets routed to your computer.

At best you're pseudonymous.
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>>60188033
>it's by no means free
it is actually in fact the only way to be free
>it's just not practical
this might have been true 2 decades ago, but not any more
regardless, freedom is more important that capability, comfort, or convenience

gnunet is the internet done right
ipfs seems to me like it will just make all the problems we're currently struggling against more prolific and worse
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>>60188089
>it is actually in fact the only way to be free
not that free, free as in "no downsides"
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>>60188082
In the context of transferring files what is meant by `anonymous' is that no one one can deduce what files you received if any.
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>>60188095
there are no downsides to freedom
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>>60188102
That's impossible, because the node(s) that sent you the file know what they sent you. Sure you can break the file up into chunks or whatever, but it's pretty easy for the government or whatever to compromise enough nodes to track you down, which Tor is in danger of.
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>>60189054
>i know nothing about this, but after considering it for a few moments i've determined that all the crypto experts are obviously wrong
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>>60189054
On gnunet, they don't know who they're sending it to.
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>>60187047
They are going out of their way to use XDCC and build ration for AB. Installing GNUNet is less effort.
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>>60190270
Get in gnunet's IRC channel and beg them to release 0.10.2 before people put too much stuff on the network.
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Hello yes how do I download the anime without getting lawsuits?
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I hope you guys start having gnunet threads of you are trying to sell me into it.
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>>60191787
Hello? Yes, don't live in unfree countries.
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Perhaps the old Legion needs to come out of hiding for a bit and pay proper thanks to CR
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>>60191859
seriously though, the last time I used a torrent was limewire in 2007 to get some touhou games. how do I torrent nowadays without getting my internet turned off? do I need to use no logs vpn?
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>>60192247
limewire isn't a torrent client, nothing to do with torrents
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>>60189785
>>60190270
>>60190282
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What now?
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>>60181124
>that's a funny way to spell urbit

It would be great if it hasn't a completely utter batshit insane design.
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>>60192285
>bittorrent client
>not a torrent client
what the fuck?
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>>60191845
We definitely need more gnunet threads
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>>60192634
it's primarily a gnutella client
though i checked, and i seems it did get torrent support later on
i'd already moved away from limewire by that point
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>>60174708
>not liking soft-shoujo-ai SoL comedies
Fuck off
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What is the the best VPN based in some 3rd world country (I don't like NSA)?
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>>60166981
hahahaha
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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