Hey anon, I'm back to give you YET ANOTHER CHANCE to explain

>being poor

>>60126599
Building full system is expensive goy

>>60126614
Why would you upgrade if you don't need to

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>>60126599
>Ayymd

Sorry not even once.

>>60126661
>intel
>don't need to upgrade
4c/8t is obsolete.

>>60126599
Is there anything apart from intel/amd?

>>60126686
some gay nerd shit like 2 people use

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>humans are still using silicon as foundation for their computer chips
Humans are fucking retarded creatures. Guess we'll be back in 100 years when you'll actually stop being fucking retarded.

>there is absolutely NO excuse not to upgrade!
Except that I future-proof and dont need to upgrade from an i7 5820k for a good while

>>60126599
Intel is better clock for clock so why would I change from an intel processor to a shitty AMD processor that performs worse.

>>60126599
I want Ryzen but

NO
MINI-ITX
BOARDS
AVAILABLE

This a good enough explanation for you??

>>60127097
Except ryzen has better performance for half the price, goy.

You gave money to jewtel and now you're shilling to justify it.

>>60126599
Because my Intel CPU is so good that after 5 years I feel no need to upgrade any time soon.

>>60126599
Because I can't justify buying a new laptop just yet, and ryzen hasn't hit mainstream in that respect yet either for me to get a decent machine.

I'm waiting with bated breath for a ryzen based laptop to drop so I can buy it, but I will probably have to wait til the apus come out.

>>60127522
you don't seem to understand that when 5820K came out AMD was non-existant in the cpu market aside from low-end FX-6300

I want to build a new computer, but I haven't looked at computer hardware in three years.

And all I see is shit flinging over who likes what logo better.

>>60127291
Except it doesn't perform worse because it has double the cores and threads.

>>60127291
IPC wise, Ryzen somehow managed to pull ahead, so you're wrong

>>60126599
>still using a desktop

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>>60127408
>He hasn't cut his own mATX board into an ITX board

Fuck off plebian shit

>>>/r/eddolit

>>60126599
They're cheap. I got a G4560 for 60$. It's powerful enough for my need and has a adequate for my uses integrated GPU. Should last me a couple of years.

>>60127751
>voiding warranty just to buy AMD

Fanboyism this extreme should be treated pharmacologically

>>60127751
I've done it before, but it was on boards that were out of warranty. For Ryzen I'd be getting new parts.

>>60126676
t. I-57 babby

Hackintosh
I'm smart enough to make mine work but not smart enough to want to hack it to accept an AMD processor

>>60126670
oh yes shilltell has mind controlled all the goys into buying their overpriced crap, definitely makes it better

>>60127780
>Being tech illiterate

It's not hard to cut your motherboard without fucking it up retard

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>>60126599
once again, i have :^)

>>60126599
AM4 mobos suck ass.

well i got a 6 core sandy so...

>>60128111
AMD are shit why would you buy them

>>60130457
AMD are the shit currently

>>60130457
>monopoly-like billion company gets btfo by almost bankrupt poor company
>not shit

>>60126614
not
an
argument

>>60126670
>(((steam)))

>>60131114
True; it's a very good reason.

>>60131040
>the fact that intel is billion corporation and amd is poor somehow makes ryzen better

>>60131234
how doesn't it?

>>60131578
Because people that want to get unbiased info compare processors and not companies that made them or histories of those companies.

>>60126599
I got no reason to
no point in spending 500 for an 1800x and another 200 on a good motherboard to get 10 less seconds in premiere rendering

>>60131770
Why wouldn't you want less time when it comes to rendering ??? Are you thick or something

>>60132134
Spending 700 dollars isn't worth 10 seconds
Thought you guys were all about price to performance

>>60132134
I think you are the thick one why would you buy a new CPU and mobo for only a few seconds of less waiting time

>>60132182
I thought AMDumbfucks were good at waiting anyway

>>60132380
Hahaha, so true

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>>60126599
Because I'm not an insecure little faggot who gets impressed/intimidated by some dumb nerd on the chinkshit subforum of a fresco appreciation site

Nice dubs though, I'll give you that.

>>60132843
Thank you for making my day

>>60128475
It's also not hard to void the warranty on a brand new board in case it's DoA or breaks in a couple months retard

>>60132380
nice reddit post

>>60132154
In order for the price to matter you'd need performance :^)

>>60133574
Jewtel fanboy back at it again

Can someone explain me one thing. I asked it in building pc general but got no answer so far. 1600x has 12 threads vs 4 of i5 7600k.
In a game that uses 8 threads - ryzen shows same fps, although load is much smaller. So, one would expect that if we test it with 2 1080ti in sli, 1600x would show much better fps than i5 that is already 100% loaded with 1070. But in reality fps stays the same, gpu is not fully utilized and ryzen stays underutilized.

So why doesn't 1600x win 4 threaded i5 in a 8 thread optimized battlefield 1 when there is no gpu bottleneck?

>>60128488
>GAMING

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>when you thought anon was raising a valid point about Intel's Management Engine, but it turns out he's just another ironic shill

I got a 3570K and motherboard and RAM for free, why would I spend money to upgrade for marginal gains?

>>60126599
If I was in need of an upgrade I'd definitely purchase a 1700 but my 4770k is suiting me fine
Perhaps if I did more render heavy work
Maybe when Zen 2 rolls around

Fuck off AMD shill.

>>60126599
I have a fully functional computer that does what I need to and will do more if the need to arises. Why the fuck would I build a new computer, wasting money, just to appease some NEET faggot neckbeard on /g/? Fucking retard, just fuck off.

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>>60126599
>literal shilling
>buying AMD ever
hell,
>needing to upgrade your CPU at all despite having bought one in the last four years

we've basically topped out and no one is getting faster enough for anyone to care
amd has "muh cores" but that doesn't matter because the usual intensive CPU loads aren't parallelized

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>>60126599
because my system was made before 2017 and moore's law is dead, so there is no compelling reason to buy /any/ new CPU from either rich kike corporation if you're mentally over the age of 13 and use your computer for something other than wasting away in front of shitty e-celeb streams and video games

Can someone explain to me like I'm retarded why is the i7-7700K (4/8) so much faster (around 40%) than the R51400 (4/8) if the i7-6900K (8/16) is only marginally faster (around 10%) than the R71800X (8/16)?

I have a two years old 4690K, I didn't upgraded to KabyLake why should I even bother with Ryzen.

I recently sold off my 6700k in exchange for an r7-1700X Build. Still!l pushing 60+ fps in all titles at 1440p without a single problem . The extra threads really we amazing for all !y video encoding and editing I do.

Only my server is still Intel based. It has a 4th generation pentium dual core. I'm waiting to see if AMD has any itx boards in the works, and if they'll make a cheap low power CPU. All the heavy lifting is done by my main PC, so the server literal!y just needs a super low power dual core or preferably quad core. I'm about to pickup a cheap A6-7400k and gigabyte a88xm board. Board has 8 sata ports which is astounding for a sub $100 board and I can have the entire combo for less than $150. Only issue is it's mATX, not itx. I want itx.

discord / hRV2p join

>>60138271
With Ryzen, the 1500X (4c/8t) All the way up to the 1800X is all the exact same chip with more or less threads depending on the model. They also all have the same amount of L2 and L3 cache. The r5-1400 however is an even further cut down 1500X. They cut it down by reducing the L2 (or maybe L3 cache?, I forget which it was) by half of what the cache is on the 1500X and up. These memory caches in the CPU drastically effect performance.

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>>60138359
It was the L3 cache. It's cut down to 8MB compared to 16MB on the 1500X

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>>60138359
>>60138382
Honestly the difference of a 1400 to 1500X is literally $20 on Newegg. I don't even know why the 1400 exists.

>>60134779
Because intel have been in control of the CPU market for so long games prefer higher clockes and stronger cores. Ryzen is about the same strength clock for clock as haswell or ivy- bridge

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>>60138398

Do you understand the concept of CPU binning? All the Ryzen chips are based off of the 8 core 2 CCX CPU like the one used in the R7 series. All the R5 chips are just defective R7 chips they can't sell as R7s so they sell as R5s with disabled cores.

>>60126599
> Already have an intel cpu
> this fag wants me to waste more money on something i don't need

This is why people hate fanboys

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>>60126599
Because you're an idiot who fell for cherrypicked benchmarks and Ryzen is trash in gaming compared to it's Intel simmilar priced competitor cpu's

>>60134849
elaborate?

it's actually cheaper for me to change my cpu to another intel than buying a mobo + ryzen
also this >>60140148

>>60126599

Shit bait aside, there is zero actual incentive to upgrade from my 6700k.
If you're one of the poor motherfuckers who fell for the Bulldozer/Piledriver meme, or if you do a lot of the niche work octacores excel at, then I guess Ryzen is a godsend for you, but for me it would be a sidegrade at best and a downgrade at worst, so why the fuck would I buy a new CPU and mobo?

>>60126599
no point upgrading my sandy bridge if it still works and the newest chips of intel and amd are only slightly better performance wise--

>>60140362
Why do you not want to support a company that offers the only completion to intel without amd intel could charge whatever the hell they liked for a bad processor.

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>>60126599
>tfw 2600k at 4.4 ghz

I wonder if there will ever be a moment I'll upgrade.

>>60126599
>buying AMD

have fun with your firehouse, your electricity bills and outdated motherboard.

and looks like your only argument is...
"WE HAS MORE COAR ! :DDDDDDDD"

AMD fanboys are truly retarded.

>>60140536

I just explained to you that I already have a CPU that performs mostly identically or better at everything I throw at it, so buying any Ryzen right now would be akin to gifting the money to AMD.
Why the fuck would I want to spend hundreds of dollars for no benefit at all? Are you mentally challenged?

>>60140551
what year are you
Intel are current firehouse

>>60126599
Because running 7 year old i5, why upgrade?

>>60140595
No need to bring the mentally challenged into this and why would you want to give your money to intel all you are doing is giving intel the power of a monopoly if you sold you amazing 6700k and mobo you could easily buy ryzen maybe even save some money.

>>60140595
I'm guessing you are a communist you don't seem to like the idea of a free market all you seem to want is intel having a monopoly what is wrong with you, you retard

>>60140551
AMD is now more efficient than intel , I have not seen an intel 4 core multi threaded processor running at 65watts with overclocking enabled

>>60140850
>why would you want to give your money to intel

I'm not giving them anything. When I need to upgrade my CPU, then I'll consider who I will give my money to.

>if you sold you amazing 6700k and mobo you could easily buy ryzen maybe even save some money

Oh, so you ARE retarded.

>>60140861
>if you don't buy this new AMD product even though you're not at all in the market for a CPU right now, you're a communist!

Even ironic shitposting is shitposting, Anon.

>>60140893
Why don't you want more cores you seem to just hate ryzen because you have intel. Open your eyes

I have a Ryzen desktop CPU and a Haswell i5 in my laptop

They both work well enough for me

>>60140957
another anon here
>just throw away money for ryzen because i say so
you're retarded
his 6700k will probably be enough for another 5 years
then he could consider a ryzen 2 or even 3 if it comes out in 5 years

>>60141691

Don't reply to obvious bait.