>AMD GPUs are futureproof! >Every driver update improves

>>60119285
>I wish I would have gone with a 970 over a 390
said no one ever

dunno I'm pretty happy with my 390

wish I didn't fall for the 'build a pc' meme though

I'd rather have a 3.5GiB piece of shit too, my negroid.

>>60119285
>I'm ok with being lied too
>I hate extra vram 3.5 is more than enough

8 gigs of memory is great for eth mining come at me no coinerz

>>60119285
>>8 gigs of RAM is necessary!
it wasnt 2 years a go it is now (well may be not 8 but more than 4 is)
>Every driver update improves performance!
not every but radeon usually gain in preformance while gforce lose
because radeons are biffier in hardware

>AMD GPUs are futureproof!
no gpu will ever be trully futureproof!

>I wish I would have gone with a 970 over a 390
are you mentally challenged?

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>>60119285
>970

>tfw dodge the 390
so thankful i picked the 970. it's been doing me wonders

>>60119317
Why would you not build your own pc?

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>>60119285
>I wish I would have gone with a 970 over a 390
Obviously lie. So many of my friends have a 970 thinking it was 390 performance for $250 and regret it so hard now.

>>60119916
Lmao! My 6 year old 7970 gets 4x the minimum framerate and almost double the average as the 970.

The people that make these OPs are just baiting people to post shit like that and embarrass the 970 buyers. It's what happens every time.

>>60119916
Wtf happened to the 970?

>>60119942
They purposefully used settings that maxed its VRAM.

>>60119970
*purposely

I shouldn't write while listening to nightcore

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>>60119942
Same thing that happens to every pre-Pascal Nvidia GPU when it runs out of VRAM, only worse.

Nvidia GPUs were a scam from 2008-2015. They have planned obsolescence built into them beyond any simple not being powerful enough difference compared to newer GPUs.

>>60119331
>>60119285

as a 970 owner, I don't agree. It's shit. It's fast as fuck but when it hits 3.5 gb the performance plummets like crazy. like literally from 90 to 12 fps.

total buyer's remorse here. at least for 3440x1440 the 970 is simply shit.

how are you AMDlads doing?

>>60120043
>how are you AMDlads doing?
Still enjoying my 7970. There hasn't been much reason to upgrade for the first 5 years of owning it.
75% of the 970 performance when the 970 is actually working correctly. 2-4x its performance when something is using 3.5gb of VRAM (even though my 7970 only has 3GB itself, since AMD cards don't shit themselves when they run out of VRAM except for the Fury sometimes)

And even when Nvidia cards run better, it's often because the fucking driver fucking forcibly degrades rendering and anti-aliasing quality.
It's bullshit when you put two displays side by side, one AMD and one Nvidia, both on the same settings in game, yet one looks very noticeably worse by changing render quality falloff over distance and shit.
The only time AMD drivers degrade image quality over what you set is by downgrading the Tessellation to a reasonable amount like 8x or 16x(which generally looks no different than 64x), which you can still override.

Hoping Vega turns out much the same. I've never stopped being sick of Nvidia since the whole PhysX fiasco that swore me off of them to begin with, so I can't really simply buy an Nvidia card.

>>60119285

I regret my 390 as well. Not a good decision and the last time I give AMD a chance.

>>60119285
>Every driver update improves performance!
implying first release driver is always unoptimized shit

The 970 gets sub 30 fps on a lot of newer games because of RAM issues.

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>>60119424
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>60119285
>all the trendy reviewers say sapphire is shit
>its one of the best binned next to the ass us rgb tax
In my lifetime i hope social media replaces neanderthal shit like books

>6970 until 480
idk worked for me, I probably could have held out for the refresh even

>>60120221

Good for you man.. Sadly I bought into the whole physx thing because I'm a sucker for "features". I'm looking at the currently available cards but sadly anything worth upgrading to is out of my budget right now.

God damn I would be completely satisfied with the 970 if it didn't shit itself while playing fucking modded skyrim.

>>60120404
huh. Why do they say Sapphire is shit?
Their RX470 and RX480 cards weren't as good as their usual stuff, but they weren't Gigabyte-tier and their RX500 cards seem great.

>>60120623
>tfw had a 1GB 6950

Ended up getting a 390, but I wish I'd just payed the extra $30 all those years ago to get the 2GB version; I'd still be using it today. Don't fall for the "games will never use more than x vram" memes, guys.

>>60120757

P.S. by "shits itself" I mean going from 60 to 40 outside for no reason other than reaching 3.6 gb and dropping to low twenties when a horde of bandits shows up swinging inefficiently textured weapons.

>>60120757
Yeah dude I had a 9600 GTX. I was like
>whao.. the newspapers are flying around through the air in Modern Warfare. This is neat.
But the card was a fucking lemon. I replaced it with a 5770 that ran way better and 10 times quieter. Then I play Modern Warfare again and.. no fluttering pretty newspapers.

I find out that was due to no PhysX.
Then I further find out that PhysX actually runs better on the AMD cards with their superior compute performance, but it's arbitrarily disabled because of proprietary bullshit.
And while Nvidia limited some effects to proprietary driver bullshit (that ran perfectly fine, even better, on AMD hardware), it at the same time was fudging image quality, particular model quality at distance even if someone sets render distance to the maximum and antialiasing quality.

And now does their driver has spyware, and their software forces you to log in for stuff you shouldn't need to log in for.
Just fuck Nvidia; they're worse than Apple.

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>>60119285
>I'd rather have a card that long ago went from competitive with my current GPU to a complete joke

>>60120817

Physx would run just fine on CPUs if ageia / nvidia didn't gimp it to some archaic instruction set on CPUs that renders it unusable.

Either way I'll wait for Vega and see how the prices change over the next couple months - maybe I'll afford a replacement for this 3.5 meme.

>>60119285
Fuck you.
I was SOLD on the 970.
Let me tell you something about my path
>8600gt
>275gtx BLACK
>470gtx (this was kinda a bad deal for the temps but it was fast as fuck)
>570gtx (little improvement +-10% but it wanst a fire hazard like the 470)
>970gtx
...
4 gigs should be enough for everything right?
WRONG
WRONG
nigga thats 3.5

Nshit you fucked me for the last fucking time.
I pledge my future builds, my gf's builds, my future kids builds and else to amd.
you dun goof

970 seems to hold up well in recent titles according to recent testing.

>>60119410
Post the version where the gif slows down at 3.5gbs

>>60119285
Are you stupid? The 390 outperforms the 970 in 90% of games made in the last 2 years.

I have a GTX970 I bought back in December 2014.
When the whole 3.5GB fiasco came out I was really worried but in practice I never have come across any issues so I just laugh about it.

I remember that Assassin's Creed screenshots that were circulating around with performance tanking but it was fucking clear the Anti Aliasing has been increased in the screenshots that showed power performance.
You couldn't trick me, I often help out in the Guru3D NVidia Anti-Aliasing Guide thread.

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nVidiafags somehow disabled the last 512MB yet?

>>60123009
Nah, it works just fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrBlkz-sQYY

>>60123066
>Nah, it works just fine.
I'm no expert but it looks to me as if it's not reporting dropped frames.
Time link related.
https://youtu.be/BrBlkz-sQYY?t=117
nVidia magical cureall.

>>60123143
Resident Evil 7 is always loading the level as a whole area, there are no loading screens.
This stutter happens in all games where vram usage reaches the limit in all hardware.
Here, happening in a 380 2GB.
https://youtu.be/uRfSgDFgRiI?t=185

This has always happened since forever I don't know why somehow people started talking about it as if it's something that never happened before the GTX970 even more shocking that people in /g/ think that it is indeed the case.

>>60119312
First post exactly my thoughts.
Sage for OP's simpleness.

>>60120392
Pc games have settings that give you control over how much ram you use.

>>60123228
Probably because it wasn't a regular case back then since most games are PS3/Xbox360 ports and those console only have like 512mb of video memory.

>>60120043
>970
>3440x1440
Nigger you need a GTX 1080 minimum to be able to enjoy an ultrawide 4K monitor.

>>60123331
That resolution is not 4K, it's 1440.

I concur with the rest of the 970 owners in this thread. Cucked out of life by 3,5gb of VRAM. The 970 works really well until it hits the cap and then whatever game I'm currently running becomes unplayable.

Here's hoping Vega will have a flagship GPU with 10gb+ so that I don't have to worry about this shit ever again.

>>60123439
the new driver update gave me a big performance boost

>>60123439
3440x1440 was first marketed as 4K ultrawide and I will continue to call it as such until it is marketed as otherwise.

>>60123480
No it wasn't, its marketed as ultrawide QHD

>>60120934
>PhsyX uses x87 codepaths that were introduced in 1989
CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP SENPAI

>>60119285
I can't speak for AMD cards, since I haven't owned one since I tried to crossfire dual 6950 2GB's back in the day. Fucking sucked more ass than faggots on mardi gras.

I will tell you that my 970 is fucking junk. I almost regret it more than my 6950s. Almost. Less than 4GB of VRAM is pretty shit even at 1080p.

>>60120043
That gpu and screen res. Yup a fucking moron detected.

>>60123537
Just play at 720p, who needs 480p? 240p ought to be enough for anyone
144p is the optimum

>>60119285
>half the vram

Oh, wait
>less than half the vram

>"I wish I would have just taken the jew cock in my mouth"

Bought a sapphire 390 on sale for $300 a while back and I am fucking glad I did, my friends who went with 970's even though I was recommending the 390 are now upgrading to shit like the 480 and 1060 while I'm just sitting comfy with better performance than the cards they're looking to buy from the same gen they're upgrading from.

I almost wanna get one of those $260 fury's that I keep seeing on amazon and newegg but I don't feel thats a large enough upgrade.

>>60119312
fpbp

>>60122008
My man

>>60123850
Fury isn't worth it honestly and I say that as am amd bro

>tfw 390 and r7 1700

Temps and clocks are great

>>60123928
same

only intel part in my PC is my NIC

>>60119399

I use 1080ti, it's the best GPU for 144 1440p monitor. Noticeable improvement, less lag

I got a 390 instead of 970 at the time

Still have it, it doesn't max out games unfortunately but oh well.

>>60119409
I define future proof, at least in computers, in one simple way.
The next major shift does not dick you over.
For games, that was vram, see re7 for a hilarious example where 3.5 shits the bed because it needs 4gb, and every 4gb card is fine, and because am has 8gb, it can play with higher settings then nvidia counterparts, while not shiting itself.

>>60120043
wtf? I don't even try to do that with my SLI

>>60119285
>8 gigs of RAM is necessary
Nvidia's 3 gig cards are already starting to see their limits as new games start asking for higher VRAM requirements. You can be fine with 4GB right now if you're doing just 1080p but by next year's slew of games you're gonna be pushing that upper barrier constantly.

>>60119285
>I wish I would have gone with a 970 over a 390
said no one ever

t. 970 owner

>>60123009
They actually did disable the last .5GB in the 970 like a month after the stories were coming out about it. Worst thing about the whole event was that nVidia never once rectified the actual problem, they just fucked over everybody who bought the 4GB model.

>>60124620
I too enjoyed my 30 dollar rebate.

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Waiting on my RX 580 MSI Gamer edition as we speak. Everyone shat on me for using an APOO 5800k, but jokes on them. I got that baby OC'd to 4.7 gigglehertz. Check out the benches boiiis.

>>60124620
You're right because I would never pick AMD trash in the first place and went for 970 right away.

>>60119312
Dunno, my R9 390 is almost hot enough to melt the plastic on my pci lanes. 310 fucking watts.

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>did my research and went for an r9 280 instead of a gtx 960 even though all my friends told me amd was shit
>decided that instead of buying an i5 i could wait one more year on my $50 celeron, which led me to buy an r7 1700
i love amd, i would've had such a bad rig if they weren't so good

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>>60124682
I too am waiting on my RX 580. I went with the Sapphire one because I like the design better. This is gonna be a big ass jump for me, the last gaymen pc I had was running an 8200 GS and it could barely run Oblivion unless I played in a tiny little window.

>>60123228
>This has always happened since forever I don't know why somehow people started talking about it as if it's something that never happened before the GTX970 even more shocking that people in /g/ think that it is indeed the case.
Because most games handle VRAM intelligently. Unused VRAM is wasted VRAM, so naturally they try to use all the available VRAM to improve performance and reduce loading times. This means that a game that would run just fine on a 3 GB card can still stutter on a 970 because the game sees 4 GB of VRAM and tries to use all of it.

>>60124748

that is a 570 in the pic. You're gonna shit yourself. It's a whole new world and you won't want to go back to the old one. I had a 480, but sent it back and got the 580 cause the Sapphire Nitro 480 sucked. Look out for the greedy tactics some partners use. My nitro only had 7ghz effective memory instead of the normal 8 that comes with the 8 gig 480s.

>>60124682
Already have mine. Seems great in the first few days. Makes me realize that the CPU is the bottleneck on some games now. 8350 only has another year in it

>>60120043
>how are you AMDlads doing?
RX 480, overclocked to 1350, undervolted by 100mV. Less noise at full load than the idle coil whine of my old GTX 560. Pretty good.

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>>60119285
>I wish I would have gone with a 970 over a 390
Novidya shill spotted. I have a GTX 970 and I regret getting it over the R9 290x. I prefer housefires over the 87.5% usage of VRAM

>>60119285
390°X owner here. grabbed it for $165 off craigslist last year. no ragrets

>>60122791
Here you go anon

>>60124907

Thank god I bought my 970 on Amazon. When Nvidia lost the case and had to pay every 970 owner a 30$ rebate, Amazon took my GPU for the price I bought it for back (360$). Bought a returned Fury X for 300$. Loving it.

>>60125039

Fury X is cool, and local microcenter still has them. I wanted one bad, then talked myself out of it because of the power draw. Went with a 580 powering a 1080p 75hz freesync monitor instead.

>>60125067
Why didnt you get a 480 instead? I mean 7% more power for 30% more power consumption sounds pretty bad.

>>60125084
you can always downclock a 580 to 480 spec.
only the best 480 at max clocks can match a 580 at stock clocks. no reason to get a 400 series unless it's on sale.

>>60125111
Oh okay didnt think of that. Enjoy your card.
Also the Fury X still holds up pretty well on 4k gaming if I only use FXAA for AA instead of MXAA and drop from ultra to a high/medium mix.

>>60119970
Why shouldn't they have?

>>60119970
So? The 390 is a simialrly powerful card, yet it can achieve above 60fps at 1440p max details
If the 970 cannot, then it's a bad card

>>60124701
So dissipate your heat better you fucking mongoloid.

I wish I went with an R7 360 instead of my 750 Ti tbqh

>>60119285
Reminds me of the daily 970 shill threads we had in here and on /v/

>>60119285
>>60119317
If you bought a 290 you are lucky. Lasting so long a still viable...
>>60119992
Why does the 7790 get more FPS? It also has only 1 or 2 GB.

770s are really shit nowadays, but 7970s are also on the verge. Even for 1080p...

>>60126660
>7970s are also on the verge. Even for 1080p...
Hello no man, if you're stupid and run everything at ultra settings yeah, but otherwise disable unneeded gpu heavy settings and you're good to go

>>60120043
R9 290 here
Bought the sapphire Vapor X for 320€ when the cheapest 970 with shitty cooling was 350€
Runs everything really well at 2560x1440p
Will probably upgrade once I can get more than twice the performance for around 300€

>>60126677
You ALWAYS maximize textures. Textures give the heaviest optical impact compared to anything else. 3 or 4 GB are often sufficient, but won't be in one or two years.

>>60119285
>970 over a 390
Lol
What a retard.
You can trade a 390 for a 970 and get like 50$ on top of the deal.

amd hires armies of street shitters to shill their products while nvidia lets their products performance and price do the talking

i know which brand I'll chose everytime

>>60124701
>almost hot enough to melt the plastic on my pci lanes. 310 fucking watts.
>Almost
>Almost

So this is almost a problems, right?
Who cares how hot it works as long as it works?
If it doesn't shit itself from heat or anything it's all great.

>>60119992
What's the bottleneck in the 770?

>>60126689
You can almost get twice the performance with a 1070, but the Vapor-X is a really good model
It still maxes most games in 1080p

>>60119285
>GeForce 2 MX
>GeForce FX 5600 XT
>GeForce 6600 GT
>GeForce 8800 GT
>GeForce GTX 480
>GeForce GTX 680

>AMD
>Not even once

>>60120043
Got an R9 Nano a year ago for cheaper than what the 980 was going in my country when they were on clearance. No ragrets.

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>>60126810
you're going to get a vega anon, right?

>>60126810
>MAgicMedia 256AV
>GeForce FX5200
>GeForce 6150 Go
>ATI HD 2400 PRO
>GeForce GT 650M
>GeForce GT 755M SLI
>GeForce GTX 980
>GeForce GTX Titan X
>GeForce GTX 780 Ti
>GeForce GTX 1070

Had a 7870 in the meanwhile but it didn't let me install drivers... The meme is real! I now bought a 560Ti for 10 € to run it in my 2nd pc.

>>60120757
>the whole physx thing because I'm a sucker for "features"
Physx was never more than just a couple of fancy effects for taking screenshots because more often than not they would tank your performance to unplayable levels unless you had a dual GPU system.

AFAIK that brand and Gameworks are ruined since the Batman fiasco, haven't barely heard of games using it, or at the very least advertising it that bad. Back then it was a shill fest.

Also this:
>>60120817
>Then I further find out that PhysX actually runs better on the AMD cards with their superior compute performance, but it's arbitrarily disabled because of proprietary bullshit.

Everybody with half a brain knew that Physx was fucking bullshit at best, a scam and anti-competitive practise at worst, and didn't fall for the meme.

I almost fell for the 970 meme myself, but deep down knew there was something really fishy with the nonstop shilling and circlejerk general-like threads and decided to postpone the purchase. Then a couple months after, the 3.5 fiasco happened.

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>>60119285
i'm running 3.5GB

>>60126810

>>60126936
>I now bought a 560Ti for 10 € to run it in my 2nd pc.

Oh, that's right, I also have a GTX 560 in my secondary machine, picked up a GT 730 a while back for a family member's pc, and have two laptops with GT 425Ms

>>60120043
My 290 is still good for 60 fps 1080p, but linux drivers suck donkey balls. They only really support the 390 well, fix your shit AMD.

>Aorus 1080ti out for delivery

>>60126810
that looks like, very very unbalanced meal.

>get RX480
>render a scene with LumenRT
>7GB VRAM used

Glad I didn't fall for the out of the box obsolete 6GB card meme

>>60126810
9800GT
660GTX

Will be going for Vega on my next card.

Used to be exclusive team AMD. Then I got a GTX 1070.

I feel stupid.

>>60124332
You know gigs of vram doesn't decide whether the card is powerful, right? You could have a 16gb gtx750(hypothetically) and it would still run bf1 on 45fps medium.

>>60119285
Hm
I have a 290 without the X and I'm still super happy with it

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>>60127303
>used to be exclusive team X
indeed you are

I have an R7 260X. What should I upgrade to?

>>60127328
1080 and make sure you switch to an Intel CPU if you haven't already

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>>60119424

>>60127349
This is what happens when corporations try to be hip memesters.

>>60127328
do you feel the need to upgrade?
if yes rx 580 / 480 / gtx 1060 are all good for 1080p 60 fps
also don't listen to what the other guy said

>>60123439
>Here's hoping Vega will have a flagship GPU with 10gb+ so that I don't have to worry about this shit ever again.

Vega will only ever have 8GB max except -maybe- in enterprise parts.
The HBCC is supposed to allow scaling of art assets with host DDR4 though, so as long as a single frame doesn't need >8GB data, the card can act like a pseudo-32GB card or whatever.

>>60126747
The 1070 is only about 60% stronger
I will wait for something that performs on par with the 1080ti and costs 300€
And why doesnt sapphire make Vapor X cards anymore?
They were really good and look nice

>>60127083
I looked for a 7850 first but they were too expensive I think this is the best deal possible
They wanted more than 30 euros for GT 730s and R7 250s, this 560Ti is much more powerful
>>60127228
>TFW I skipped all those great GTX and 5000 AMD cards with my HD2400 Pro
>It ran Cod4 in 1024x768 on Low with 20-30 FPS
>Can you even imagine how slow it was
>>60127407
Then you'll wait a long time... 1080 Ti performance will cost around 500 € next year

>>60126724

The owner.

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>>60127525
I can wait 2 or 3 years for it to drop in price
The 290 is still perfectly capable of 1440p gaming
Dropping to high or medium settings doesnt make that much of a difference anymore
It often is really difficult to even tell apart high and very high/ultra without zooming in on a screenshot

>2010+ gaming.
GPU card is a meme now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5ZsaavKNR8

>2 years ago, bought my used r9 290 a few months before my friend bought his new gtx960
>I paid $200, he paid $350
>got twice his performance

>>60127638
wtf why did you friend do this is he retarded

>>60124701
come back when you know the melting point of plastic you retarded fuck. your GPU will fry itself way before that happens.

>>60119312
>TREE FIDDY
kek

>>60127638
350 $ for a 960? thats retarded
the 290 consumes a lot of energy but if you arent running on a htpc its ok
just limit the FPS
I recommend my friend a CX500 and a 290, he got both for 120 €, best poorfag GPU on this planet
He plays everything on Ultra now, while his i3 bottlenecks

>>60127715
>recommending corsair CX
kys faggot

>>60127723
Using this PSU for my primary 5820K rig, so quiet, nothing compared to the three 1000W Dark Power Pros I had before.

200 vs 30 €

>>60127745
He's referencing to that psu tier list made by paid shills. On that list corsair psus are listed on tier 4 or something and it's telling you to avoid them.

>>60119285
> 8 gigs of RAM is necessary!
But it is

>>60119285
>8 gigs of RAM
>mentally ill faggot tries to justify throwing a bag full of money for piece of shit hardware he won't use

>>60127776
Then its complete shit. I would prefer the Corsair Vengeance series nowadays as its newer for lowend builds but I would not go deeper. Combat Power, Xilence, Liteon and whatever this shit is called will explode, Corsair doesn't. This thing worked better than any Be"quiet" highend PSU I had before so I keep it.

My next highend PSU will be probably EVGA G2 or P2, only because I'll somewhen upgrade to a 1070 SLI.

>>60127723
The CX might not be great and often overpriced, but its far from terrible
Much better choice than the shitty low end EVGA units redditfags like to recommend
>>60127776
That shill tier list really is terrible
According to that, my bequiet power zone is on par with the 430W/500W and 500b/600b EVGA firecrackers

>>60127924
Antec VP are god tier for low end machines
Dirt cheap and solid build quality (slightly better than the CX, especially at higher temperatures)
But a corsair CX is also ok

Corsair CX (and CXM) are not bad per se, but boy do they have the shittiest and chinkiest fans I've ever seen in a PSU. Mine started doing clicky noises that were driving me mad barely a year after purchase and had to put a Noctua in there.

It always cracks me up when I read these threads filled with AMD pajeets trying to imply the 970 doesn't mop the floor with the 390.

The 390 has FUCKALL OC headroom because it's just an overvolted 290 overclocked to its limits, whereas the reference gtx 970, which is the one we see here in these benchmarks the pajeets post, has a mere core clock of 1 GHz. However, you'd be hard pressed to find a 970 that doesn't easily reach or even surpass 1500 mhz, which already puts it in stock 980 territory. Now if you want to state that a 390 has any change against a 980, then be my fucking guest.

>inb4 500 benchmarks of ashes of nobody and doom because they are the only games where AMD trash does well

>>60128092
>game uses up more than 3.5GB
>less fps than a GTX960 and horrible frametimes
AMAZING

>have rx 470
Been thinking to get 570. Yay or nay ? I dun care muh graphics, as long i can play gamea with 60fps at 1080p

>>60128126
>b-b-but 3.5gb meme

Literally irrelevant.

Now go and show us how tech illiterate you are by posting a bunch of games that cache 6+gbs of textures to VRAM but don't come even close to actively using that amount.

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>>60128092
Nice floor mopping my dude

>>60128132
Same card with a bit more OC headroom, not worth the money.

>>60128142
>reference

Thanks for proving my point.

>>60128143
>Just allow more oc
I guess rx 470 stay then. OCing gpu not my thing

>>60128154
390 can also overclock my retarded friend. Look at 390X, which is an overclocked 390.

>>60128167
>Look at 390X, which is an overclocked 390
Except it's not. The 390 has parts of its core disabled on top of being clocked slightly lower.

>>60128167

My ass it does. It's OC headroom is pathetic and you won't get much out of it because, again, it's just an overvolted overclocked 290, which is why it's a garbage housefire that dissipates TWICE the heat of a 970 and does shit like this >>60124701.

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>>60128154
give up, anon. the 390 is a clear winner and the 390x dominates it.

>>60128185

Except for the fact it's not. Try again, pajeet.

I doesn't own both cards, but I'm more surprised how reviewer rarely test new game with 970 card anymore but still testing it with the old 290 card.
When people always claim that 970 is the most popular GPU in its generation.

>Buy a 290x in 2013
>It is now only 8% slower than AYYYYEMD's top-tier card in 2017

Great investment.

>>60127703
>>60127715
it's like $270 Canabucks plus 15% tax

>>60123066
Stuttering comes from the shitty CPU bottleneck.

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>>60128308
Hey, what country are you from?
Your English is pretty poor.

It's because the GTX 970 really craps itself out due to its memory issues and in DX12 / Vulkan.
Most reviewers i seen usually focus on the latest and greatest of NVIDIA while putting older AMD GPU's on benchmarks as well because they are all the same both chipwise and perfomance wise (290/390 = 480/580), not that i hate AyyMD, but its the truth,

>>60128398

Indonesia.
Sorry, English isn't my first language.
Not even half people of my own country use official Indonesian language because we got like more than 50 different languages and dialect in one country.

>>60128424
Are you muslim?

>>60128822

Agnostic.

>>60128092
A good 99% of people buying these GPU's don't overclock them.

Even people who buy these cards and cpu's with the specific intention of overclocking, very often still don't overclock them. Just look at the performance scores of an intel K chip on userbenchmarks - you'll see a normal distribution that hits a wall just past the mean and drops off, following by a smaller normal distribution which is where all the overclockers are. All the K chips can overclock but most people buy one and DON'T.

Overclocking is a meme. Your shit doesn't overclock itself and most people are too lazy/stupid to bother (but will still buy overclockable cards/gpu's for the false sense of extra performance) What's actually relevant for the vast majority of people are default clock speeds.

>>60128888
That's why GPUBoost 2.0 exists, another reason to pick NVidia over AMD.

>>60128424
Sorry if my wording seemed like i was attacking you for your English.
Anyways, to expand on it, the GTX 900 series are already considered "legacy" status by NVIDIA, while most cards AMD has released in the past 6 years have been getting plenty of driver support.

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>>60119285
yeah, this "FineWine" that AMD faggots keep bragging out is pure bullshit

>>60122831
if that was the case that means the 390 is faster than the 480 since aftermarket oc 970's match aftermarket oc 1060's and 480's.

>>60128888
>What's actually relevant for the vast majority of people are default clock speeds.

do you spout bullshit like this daily? 99% of people buy aftermarket gpu's from both amd and nvidia with the exception being the 480 due to amd specifically selling their reference one at the cheapest prices. every other gpu of the 970 or 390 sells mainly in the aftermarket and reference ones are pretty much non existent since every vendor has an oc on their gpu.

>>60124701
>>60128184
>muh watts
>muh heat

my 390 runs at 38 idle and at most 60 under load
it's not an issue

>>60129512
A factory OC is no different from any other default clock speed.

The fact is, people are lazy and stupid and don't overclock shit themselves. Helping someone pick and choose GPU's should be done on the basis of their default clock speed performance, not what they could theoretically get if someone overclocked them.

OC headroom is irrelevant for 99.99% of the market.

>>60128184
it's an overclocked 290 with no performance increase over the 290 except for like 2fps on average lmao

>>60128996
what the cards are considered is irrelevant what matters is their current drivers support down to the 400 series

>>60129577
>A factory OC is no different from any other default clock speed.

are you pretending to be stupid?

>Helping someone pick and choose GPU's should be done on the basis of their default clock speed performance

no it shouldn't you colossal retard. if i'm looking through amazon and i see the best value 970 is an asus 970 with a 200mhz boost clock increase i wouldn't go looking for reviews of stock benches will i you idiot? i would look at benches of that specific card and how it performs compared to ones of similar price from amd and from other nvidia vendors.

stop damage controlling for the 390 at stock speeds when everyone knows the 970 is faster in the aftermarket i.e. what 99.9% of people buy. i bet you're even using an aftermarket oc gpu right now.

>>60119312
This

>>60119285

gladly switched from an R9 290 to a 1070 last year. will never go back after all the buggy compatibility and overheating i had.

>>60127308
as far as I can tell, the number 1 aspect of a game that can drastically increase visuals is textures, good textures bring more to a game then literally any other aspect sans lighting, and we are no where near real time path tracing yet.

It also just so happens that higher resolution textures have a net 0 impact on performance, either you can use them or you can't.

At least this is how I see it, and look at that, we have reached games on the regular demanding more then 4gb of ram before any of the even 4gb cards are completely obsolete.

>>60130135
There's 6 basics that are really important for game engines:

AI
Lighting
Textures
Polygons
Physics
Animations

We hit a point about 3-5 years ago where polgyon counts no longer matter much. Textures are now reaching the same point with 4K and 8K textures being added to games. There really isn't much more to be gained on either of these - you really have to go out of your way to to find the difference between a model with 250,000 polygons and one with 1,000,000 polygons.

The best way right now to make a game look good is the lighting, and second to that the physics/animations. This is where most visual improvements over the next few years will be.

>tfw 980 To
:^)

>>60130631
i think zelda, breath of the wild is the best example of how nintendo managed to push better graphics even though there are almost the same low hardware boundaries..

i mean ok it doesn't match skyrim but it's looking stunning sometimes non the less

>>60130919
Especially since it's running on a Tegra chip.

>>60130961
yeah that's right. there is no smartphone game which pushes consistent smooth and good looking graphics than what they are doing on the tegra..

afterall they have 3 times the performance of the wii u now no their hands

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>390 beats the 970
>rx480 beats the 1060

Why do Novideo shills stick to their brand so much?

>>60120764
This

used a 6870 from launch till last dec
ran every game at mid settings. only a handful of titles had pops due to 1gb vram

at 1080/60hz which the bulk of the /v/ plebs use your typical vram usage is 1-2gb because all popular games are geared towards low end hardware.

>>60131833
>1060-level performance useful for anything

>>60132163
>thinking pushing the graphical boundaries makes a game better

>>60119285

>get rx480
>works beautifully for 3 months
>decide to do updates after a month of uptime (16.12.2 -> 17)
>had played 30+ hours of ME:A and other games during that month
>suddenly after driver update 5 minutes of ME:A would cause crash
>play game of roll backs, nothing works, issues continue

Turns out lowering the fucking stock voltage and clock speed is the only way to prevent it from crashing. What the fuck AMD, this was basically your last chance.

>>60132602
i had this with my last nvidia card, the gtx 570.. would cause crashes in battelfield 3 everytime especielly on metro, unless you increase voltage

>>60131833
4.2 vs 3.6 ghz cpu

>>60124682
lol those APUs were still not capable of 60fps minimum when OC'd to 4.7GHz.
You will bottleneck the fuck out of that GPU.

>>60124726
Good choice.
Even the 280 beats the 970 a lot of times now days, whereas the 960 is total garbage in newer games.

>i love amd, i would've had such a bad rig if they weren't so good
I don't want to imagine having gotten a GTX 580 instead of my 7970.

>>60125039
Holy shit those garbage GPUs were $360 new? WHY? I thought they were $250.
They were only about as fast as a factory OC 7970 from 3 years ago, just more power efficient.

>buy XFX 5770 1.0 at launch
>wanted DX11 and nvidia was showing off GPUs with wood screws
>everything guud for 1 day
>sudden system crashes
>screen goes striped grey screen
>do research
>common issue on some 5k cards, driver issue
>takes ATI 5 months to even acknowledge an issue, another 3 to fix it

never again

>>60133501
>shit that never happened

>>60126713
hello pajeet. u need rupees?

>>60119285
my 290 will do everything on high or ultra at 1080p. Not sure what you're bellyaching about OP.

>>60126713
t. pajeet paid to shill for nvidia