can someone tell me why firefox and it's variants are so

don't post OP images more interesting than your topic

its the best no botnet browser we have

>>60107990
>needs addons to be usable (ie: doesn't play twitter videos)
Works on my machine(tm)

>>60107990
>slower than chrome even with tweaking
wrong
>may use less ram but gets heavy on cpu usage
wrong
>needs addons to be usable (ie: doesn't play twitter videos)
wrong

kill yourself.

>>60108079
>applel
hello secondary
possibly even tertiary
kill yourself

>>60107990
>slower than chrome even with tweaking
I'll happily take a slower browser over a shittier one.
>needs addons to be usable (ie: doesn't play twitter videos)
The addons are the main reason to use it, there are addons for Firefox that simply don't/can't exist for Chrome.

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>>60108091
nothing? why would they

>>60108079
hello male

>>60108040
How botnet free is Firefox? Been using Chrome for far too long.

>>60107990
Can someone tell me why Chrom* and it's variants are so popular on /g/?
>looked down tighter than a nun's cootch
>RAM usage blocks out the sun
>addons are pathetic glorified greasemonkey scripts

Chrome just seems like something you have around for grandma or if you're using a CPU from 2006

how do you lads improve chrome?

>>60107990
just as fast
great addons
no botnet

>>60108104
i guess they keep it to themselves. Its autistic anon, im glad you have something you like though.

>>60108154
no bully

>>60108122
Being locked down and having a different add-on scheme really make absolutely no difference. Hell, Vivaldi proves the locked down part is bullshit as it has a completely customizable GUI

Also, RAM usage was literally already referred to OP, but you had to bring it up again. You're grasping, luddite.

>slower than chrome even with tweaking
Even if it is true, it's such a miniscule difference that I barely notice.
>may use less ram but gets heavy on cpu usage
Same
>needs addons to be usable (ie: doesn't play twitter videos)
I use just uBlock and I it's pretty usable to me. Plus, who the fuck uses Twitter in 2017?!

>>60107990
>firefox just seems like something you have around to rice
Ricing is 90% of /g/.

>>60108079
>>60108033
>illya poster likes feet
OwO

>>60107990
Because people on /g/ like feeling special, and ever since Chrom became more popular they flocked to shit fox.

>>60107990
>may use less ram but gets heavy on cpu usage
>firefox
>cpu usage ever going above 5%
you're a faggot OP

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owo

>>60108945
where did u get that picture of me

>>60108945
What's she wearing

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>>60108964
pic of me (｡>﹏<｡)

>>60109049
thats ME u baka!

>>60109054
no that's ME u baka!

>>60109060
delet this u french weirdo

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>>60109064
bullying isn't allowed here

>>60109000
the sins of her people

>>60107990
Full
Of
Shit
Software

>>60109248
Yes it is

>>60109467
global rule 3 explicitly forbids bullying

what is it with the recent influx of anti-foss posts anons?

>>60109481
current posters aren't dumb enough to fall for stallman memes anymore

>>60107990
>slower
to a trivial degree for 99% of things
>needs addons
has addons that can actually do meaningful things
>to be usable
also known as not trying to be a whole half-assed operating system and letting users pick what features they need instead of trying to decide for them

>>60108102
>shittier one
In which way?
Because as far as I know chrome/chromium is more secure, faster, more stable and has much more sane process management than firecucks. In other words it's better in every way that matters for browser.

>The addons are the main reason to use it, there are addons for Firefox that simply don't/can't exist for Chrome.
I have bad news for you, those addons will not exist soon. Embrace cuckery.

I can respect people who refuse to use chrome because of freedumbs, that's what I used to do as well before I gave up. But people who actually believe firecucks is not steaming pile of shit stuck 20 years behind chrome are either fucking retarded or deluded.

>>60107990
>Plays twitter videos
>Don't use ancient CPU or CPU hungry OS
>Open in 2 seconds for me with all my tabs from previous session

And I'm using a 5-6 year old laptop, no SSD

OP stop being lying, shilling faggot, thanks.

>>60107990
Firefox used to be good long ago and autists cannot deal with change, also
>if you're concerned about privacy
Most retards on /g/ also ignore current age Firefox is also a botnet so always prefer the alternative firefox variants if you go for it

>>60109486
>current posters
what did she mean by this?

>>60109533
>firefox is also a botnet
[citation needed]

>>60108079
Wife material right here

>>60107990
>doesn't play twitter videos
You should just update to a version later than 0.0001 that was released in 1995

>>60108040
Probably.

>>60108078
Oh but it is way slower than chromium/chrome, specially on javascript-heavy sites. This is why I use it, Firefox is simply too slow on a few of the the web services I use regularly. It really is.

Firefox also suffers from the single thread syndrome. One javascript-heavy tab will slow the entire browser (all windows and tabs) to a crawl. Chrome really is way better in this regard.

>>60108122
Because it's a whole lot faster.

>>60108259
Well, Chrome really is a total disaster when it comes to RAM usage. Leaving a few windows open for a day or two makes Chrome sometimes use 12-14 GB RAM. Doing a chrome://restart reduces that to 1-2 GB - with the exact same windows open.

>>60108945
>>60109049
Nice. Very nice.

>>60108091
Who honestly gives a fuck?

I have some dude in my class with the fucking brazzers logo as a wallpaper and 70 icons all over the place, most of them linking to the stupidest early 2000s shit you could find.

>>60107990

Chrome was great when it came out, but they somehow made it bad. When they removed stacked tabbing I was out.


Firefox is OK performance wise, and there are just so many good add-ons, i.e. VimFX or Firebug. If you compare VimFX to something like Vimium, you'll notice that Google does not allow Vimium to run on this Chrome Web Store page and throws some alarm messages. Also I think Firebug is a tab better than the Chrome DevTools.


Last but not least:
I don't really feel a big differnce in terms of performance. It was a big differnce some while ago, but nowadays both browsers are OK-tier. If I didn't have enough RAM I'd rather use something like Midori or even Lynx.

But there isn't a big differnce between FF and Chrome..

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>>60107990

>>60108079
same im also a girl lol

>>60107990
cute feet

>>60111159
agreed

>>60108945
how to achieve this look?

>>60107990
chrome pros:
fresh start is faster
chrome cons:
crashes constantly in script or multimedia heavy sites like /gf/ /wsg/

firefox pros:
never crashes under any circumstances
firefox cons:
fresh start takes a while

The browsing and fetching speed is the same as in chrome when using https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firefox/Tweaks

I take stability over constant dead tabs, thanks.

>>60111315
VERY rough sand paper and a lot of Vaseline aftercoat.

>>60107990
>firefox just seems like something you have around to rice or if you're concerned about privacy.

Answered your own question, you muppet. Firefox is /g/'s browser of choice because of customisability, and privacy. Only Chromium comes close, and that only becomes usable when turned into a botnet itself.

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>>60109564
I don't know if it's opt-in or opt-out but it definitely has a fair bit of botnet in it.
I do not mind helping the quantum project though.

The past few weeks of performance updates were amazing. My session with hundreds of tabs now restores in just a few seconds.

>>60111328
I've never had Chrome crash on multimedia sites, it does have worse vp9 playback performance, but no crashing.

I use Firefox because it lets you not install a updater service.

>>60107990
>slower than chrome
stopped right there. firefox even with addons loads faster than chrome on Win7 and Win10. It's also faster on android which is Google's own OS. day of the rope cannot come fast enough.

>>60108079
>>60108087
>>60108090
>>60108104
>>60111018
Faggotry of this caliber deserves the rope.

>>60111641
All except the Firefox Health Report is opt-in, and that has a massive notification pop up telling you it's enabled on every fresh install.

>>60111863
Calm down there Muhammed.

>>60112067
Nobody likes fags, that's a normal reaction to your kind.

>>60111655
Yeah i dunno why that crashed for me constantly, perhaps it used the gpu for decoding and their vaapi implementation is shit. I don't have any troubles using mpv with the gpu so that's on them, i guess. I especially only installed the chromium stable branch in hope it isn't crashy.

>>60111641
>>60112043
This also applies only to nightly and beta branches. The stable and LTS one don't have that. It's literally only there for testing purposes.

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>>60108033
>>60108045
>>60108079
>>60108087
>>60108090
>>60108091
>>60108104
>>60108154
>>60108434
>>60108945
>>60109049
>>60109054
>>60109060
>>60109248
>>60111018
>>60111159
>>60111193
>>60112067
Looks like r9k's leaking again

>>60109049
me on the right o3o

>>60107990
>slower than chrome even with tweaking
Not really, no. I did some good and ol' about:config tweaks, but it's faster than Chrome on my laptop.

>less ram but more cpu usage
I never used anything when I had the browser opened except for Emulators/2D Games, but I've never felt the CPU being weakened by Pale Moon, tbqh.

>needs addons to be usable
I'm glad that I jumped off the social networks wagon desu, I can gladly say that I don't care enough about this to check if it's true or not.
Bonus: The only addon I use it's Memory Fox Next, never felt the need to install anything else.

>F-Firefox is faster than Chrome

Citation needed.

Every time I've seen Firefox it loads slow and scrolling lags to all hell.

>>60111863
This

Firefox does its job well. If you feel like it's not fast enough sell your 15 year old computer or stop running 20 porn tabs on the background.

>>60113338
It's not, it's slower at dom and style updates.
But it doesn't really matter until you open something like a graph on poloniex.

Stylo and the rest of Quantum updates should improve it to and beyond Chrome levels though.

>>60108079
shitnux users..

>>60113675
No, it's a MacOS faggot. They're mentally ill.

>>60107990
Don't worry about it, after the FF57 rolls out their numbers will rapidly decrease.

>>60107990
>can someone tell me why firefox and it's variants are so popular on /g/?
>if you're concerned about privacy.
Answering your own question.

>>60112397
>oh my god ITS LEAKING XD
go. back. to. reddit.

>>60108079
Kill yourself, faggot

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Because of tree style tabs!

>>60114181
>>60114185
>>60114192
>implying a beta like 9s could win the love of a qt like 2b

>you will never have a dick strong enough to lift 2b

>>60109536
>she

>>60107990
>this meme again
On my i5 with 4GB ram and ssd, windows 7 clean setup, chrome stutters, Firefox doesn't

>2b deleted
>but loli still alive
Mad, but relieved.

>>60108108
Telemetry is on by default and they tried to push their shitty pocket bookmark manager thing by installing the addon by default. You can disable all of this and more importantly mozilla is a non profit and is more likely to use this data to actually improve their browser than to just sell it like google would do.
Their goal is to make a good browser and to have a say in internet standards leveraging their (now shit) marketshare to hopefully prevent ad companies and commercial software vendors to push more botnet into everything.
Google made chrome to gather more data and to influence standards to be more friendly towards their business model.
Firefox would have to get really really shit for me to stop using it.

>>60107990
The only reason to use it is that it works on my Pentium II. Chrome throws a fit and won't let me install it on Windows XP.

>>60115675
I read it's because it requires SSE2. If Firefox does this, my old laptop will be PERMANENTLY obsolete.

>>60107990
>why firefox is so popular on /g/?
A U T I S M
U
T
I
S
M

>>60115705
>laptop more than 15 years old
What the fuck.

what's the best font for firefox?

i downloaded it for w10 and it looks like garbo

>>60116035
I cry to think what my old toshiba satellite pro would do when using modern software.

It's hilarious too considering I used to run early FF or IE6 while playing games like, say, Sims, something that is fairly memory heavy.
Only had 2Gigs RAM.

Now these days browsers leak memory like fucking crazy, OSes are easily using 20% RAM on some laptops just for system, not even RAM caching.

>>60109049
What image viewer are you using?

>>60107990
cute!

>replying to urslef

>>60108040
>no botnet

nice meme

>>60107990
P A L E M O O N
A
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N

>>60107990
Freetards.

Chromium is like twice as fast on my machine, just try using Khan Academy on firefox.

>>60107990
I fell for the Vim meme five years ago. Since then I've been unable to use software that doesn't let me rebind keys to do what I want and the only acceptable plugins that do that are Vimperator and Pentadactyl (no, vimium, vimfx and others aren't good enough), which aren't available on Chrome.

>>60123300
Try qutebrowser with -backend=webengine

>>60123502
No thanks. Qutebrowser doesn't have uMatrix.

>>60123300
I switched from Vimperator to VimFx because Vimperator is a slow piece of shit.
What features are you missing in VimFx?

>>60123300
>Vim gives you autism

>>60124096
https://github.com/qutebrowser/qutebrowser/issues/28

>>60124131
I set up shit so that I can play all youtube links on a single page with mpv from a single keystroke. I could also play a specific video by pressing two keystrokes (the same way following links works).
I also use pentadactyl to edit my inputs from neovim. Another feature I enjoy is that if you don't want to use another editor, you can still remap keystrokes in input fields/textareas.

>>60124672
So, still not there yet? Also, did your crowdfunding campaing works? (And I'd recommend buying glasses m8).

>>60124685
>I also use pentadactyl to edit my inputs from neovim.
You madman.

>>60124703
It's actually pretty enjoyable, especially when I need to shitpost about code in /dpt/.

>>60124685
There, if somebody is interested in my mpv-specific pentadactyl conf.

map -count -modes=n -silent v -builtin <count>;m
map -count -modes=n -silent V -ex <count>execute "!mpv --really-quiet '" + buffer.URL + "' &"
map -count -modes=n -silent <A-v> -ex playAllYoutubeLinks
set extendedhinttags=[iI]:img,[asOTvVWy]:':-moz-any-link',area[href],img[src],iframe[src],[A]:[id],a[name],[f]:body,[F]:body,code,div,html,p,pre,span,[S]:'input:not([type=hidden])',textarea,button,select,[Y]:a,div,p,span,pre,[Y]:a,div,p,span,pre,[Y]:a,div,p,span,pre,[m]:a,[r]:a

js <<EOF
hints.addMode("m", "Open link using mpv", function (elem) {
    io.run('mpv', ['--ontop', '--keepaspect-window', '--profile=protocol.http', elem.href]);
});
hints.addMode("r", "Add magnet link to rtorrent", function (elem) {
    io.run('add-magnet', [elem.href]);
});
EOF

command! playAllYoutubeLinks -js <<EOF
    io.run("mpv", ['--really-quiet', '--ontop', '--keepaspect-window', '--profile=protocol.http'].concat([]
        .reduce.call(content.document.querySelectorAll("a, iframe"), (function (regex) {
                return function (p, a) {
                        var link = "";
                        if (a.tagName == "IFRAME")
                            link = a.src.match(regex);
                        else if (a.tagName == "A")
                            link = a.href.match(regex) || a.innerText.match(regex);
                        return p + (link && link.length > 0 && p.indexOf(link[0]) < 0 ? link[0] + ' ' : "");
                    };
                })(/^https?:\/\/(www.)?youtu((\.be\/)|(be\.com\/((embed\/)|(watch\?v=))))[^ ]+$/), "")
        .split(" ")));
EOF

--
Sent from my neovim with pentadactyl

>>60124685
Yeah, uMatrix support will follow once there's a plugin API. The crowdfunding succeeded (but is running for another 19 days).

(Also, I'm wearing glasses)

>>60124822
Very nice to hear. You're doing a great job and I'm more than likely to switch to qutebrowser once Mozilla definitively kills pentadactyl, even if I'm kinda worried about security in small browsers and would much prefer to use a gecko/servo based browser.
Also, don't you think qutebrower will end up encountering performance issues since it's mostly python?

>>60124876
Most security issues are somewhere in the rendering/network/JS stack, which is all done by the backend - so using with an up-to-date backend (like QtWebKit-NG or QtWebEngine with qutebrowser, or WebKit2GTK with vimb/uzbl) is important. I want to look at Servo once there's some Python API usable with Qt over it.

There are a couple of places where performance was (or is, for some) an issue, mostly the completion and startup - but people are working on improving that. All the heavy lifting (rendering, network, etc.) happens in C++ by Qt/WebKit/Chromium anyways. There are users who tell me it's running faster than Firefox/Chromium for them, I don't see much of a difference either way. So yeah, it's much less of a problem than you'd think.

>>60124956
This is really reassuring to hear. Thank you a lot for your hard work!

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>>60107990
>why firefox
>addons

The numerous "about:" configuration pages and the accessibility to "under the hood" tinkering they provide is what makes Firefox and its derivatives so engaging. The ability to apply addons is what makes Firefox and its derivatives such a powerful browser. The quality and variety of addons is what makes Firefox and its derivatives the best browser there is. Is it perfect? No. Is is the least crappy browser? By far, yes.

I hate that every browser nowadays comes with its own video and audio player, and probably handles codecs to an extent. Has anyone tried removing that shit from Firefox and having the browser, say, open mpv with a video I might have clicked in the browser?

>>60125367
about:config --> media.<<file type>>.enabled --> false, e.g. media.webm.enabled
Next time you open a file of the specified type you'll see a download dialog where you can associate it with a program.

Why don't people use Iridium is beyond me. Fast as Chrome, all of its addons and all the botnet removed.

>>60108040
vivaldi?

>>60108040
links?

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What are the differences between firefox variants?

>>60125550
Does it also get rid of the reason why chromium takes half a day to compile? Even firefox takes a fraction of that shit.

>>60126252
Iceweasel is dead. Icecat is just a gnu fork of firefox, so it's firefox with freedom-limiting features remvoed (EME for example). Aurora is scheduled to die but was an alpha of firefox. Nightly is bleeding edge. Beta is the next stable version with a few bugs.

>>60107990
OP you forgot that firefox rapes SSD with writes

>>60126530
>rapes SSD with writes
All can be disabled.
I think someone wrote addon for that.

>>60126530
>>60126590
>Firefox literally acknowledges that Firefox is garbage in that article too

I was going to use Pale moon on my shit machine. Then I realized I didn't need it, installed links, and used it headless thru Ssh lol

Like you don't need to run a Web browser in every single device if you have many. Run whatever Web browser works best for you in the best device and don't worry about all the others - run them headless for shit. Presunably your best PC will be ur 'gaymen' PC so who the fuck cares anyways you fucking fag got retard fijcjs

>>60126530
>>60126631

I use the same ssd since 2009 or 10 and use firefox every single fucking day for hours and never had any sort of problem with this things speed. It's a debunked myth that ssd' can't take it.

>>60126530
Both Firefox and Chrome dump a shitload of cache onto your primary disk by default. The difference is that with Firefox you can disable it with an internal setting, whereas on Chrome the only way to "disable" it is with a command line argument on launch redirecting the cache to another disk.

>>60126736
how do you disable it?

i thought you just set it to a higher interval like 180000

>>60126787
There is literally a checkbox for you.

>>60125022
not knowing about chrome://

>>60126816
where lad

>>60127254
Advanced>Network
You talking about firefox, right?

>>60107990
I HAVE NEVER TRIED PALEMOON
-The thread