>We designed our workplace to reflect the future we are creating

>>60066709
fuck this open space bullshit memeing
cubicles and offices are the way to go people work better when theres no distractions

pretty neat desu

>>60066709
Dot com bubble crash 2.0 when?

They can't keep huffing Javascript paint fumes forever, can they?

>>60066709
>not a single monitor in portrait orientation
What a joke

>>60066709
>We spent all our money on chairs and monitors and had none left for walls and a ceiling.

>>60066709
>implying I dont see that black lives matter bulletin board on the right

>>60066797

motherfucker beat me to it

>>60066818
I am the 2012 where's waldo champion.
You never had a chance.

>>60066797
And no black people in sight

>>60066709
Anyone else triggered by the exposed wiring and vents on the ceiling?

Zuck couldn't afford a nice drop ceiling?

>>60066797
Ant yet not a single nignog in that office. Damn sometimes i really feel sorry for you westerncucks

>>60066876
Dude it's meant to reflect Facebooks hacking culture and shit

>>60066709
What a nightmare

The other harmful meme is working more than 30-40 hours per week. Productivity drops significantly after 6-7 hours, if done on a regular basis, not counting isolated exceptions.

>>60066905
This isn't even the worst part.
Working OUTSIDE of company time because you're being paid a salary and not an hourly wage and this means they literally own you and this is in your contract.

>>60066934
I've seen contracts like that.
Fixed salary for """40 hours"""***
*** overtime is expected but not paid
Shamelessly verbatim in the contract

>>60066709
this is the most cramped-anxiety-inducing-hell-hole I have ever seen

>>60066874
>>60066887
We support your cause, b-brothers! *black power fist*

Oh you want a job? fill out an application... don't call us, we'll call you.

>>60066709
If my workplace looked like that I'd fucking burn it to the ground hoping that they would get it right the next time

>>60066975
Requesting that "white people made computers too hard" pic

>>60066975
HR literally filters your resumes if your name looks black or spic.

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re: no black people, do pajeets count?

>>60066709
>all in ones
what a waste of money

>>60067189
pajeets don't count because they aren't filtered by hr like mexicans and black people

>>60066970
No wonder this is where those bloated malware tracking apps are produced.
Fuck the jews.

why would you filter a mexican

>>60067405
they just assume you're an illegal immigrant and you're going to cause trouble later because your SSN is stolen or forged

>>60066785
this

>>60067586
What does he have on screen? Jira left and some IDE on the right?

>>60066709
Not on of these people looks healthy

imagine the smell

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>>60066709
>So many macshits
I'm trembling pls i need an adult

>>60066763
they all have imacs, which literally cannot be put into portrait orientation

>>60066709
I wouldn't trade the projection room I work in with constant 65dB background fan noise to any of those seats.

>>60066785
>Trying to focus
That seems impossible in there

>>60067261
You mean pushed through by hr?

>>60067617
Maybe even phabricator on the left

>>60066966
Got that in my contract, I assume it's fairly standard.
Not actually put under pressure to work extra though

>that one guy in the midst of despair on right
Lol

>>60066966
So?
If you have a salaried job then you're probably making good money. Stop complaining

>>60069149
Are you blind? There are plenty of Dell monitors in this pic.

>Everyone's making fun of them and talking about how miserable they must be

These guys are making well over 80k a year.

I hate that bullshit. I've turned down jobs that had this open-space bullshit.

I need to not be distracted by retards, and sometimes I need to visit personal sites for 3-5 minutes to clear my head. Can't do that when everyone is constantly viewing my screen and I have the constant reminder that people are watching me.

>>60069338
Yes, stop complaining, wagie,
Mr. Shekelshtein needs the new yacht he's laid his eyes on

I see a bunch of college aged employees.

Where are the experienced old guys?

>>60066966
In the first world there is this amazing stuff called "human rights" that indicate, among other things, that you cannot sign you rights away and such clauses are illegal and non-enforceable. That's also why EULAs are illegal and essentially wet paper around here.

This horseshit all started when GabeN decided to get rid of cubicles but the key factor that all the other companies are missing out on is Valve gives employees the ***OPTION*** to do this shit

>>60069399
>Where are the experienced old guys?
Smart enough to avoid hipster start-ups where everyone is "family" and gets "free" ice cream, but is expected to work 80 hours a week .

>>60069388
Facebook employees earn 100k+.
Yacht costs $350k

You could buy your own yacht within a few years of working, anon.

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>>60066709
>/g/ - """""Technology"""""
>""""""""""technology discussion"""""""""

>>60069404
Companies are banking on the fact that you do not know your rights, and even if you did, have no time or money to fight them in court.

And if you are, you're not taking the job anyway and some other poor schmuck is.

>>60066709
Why the fuck are they in an office? They should be working from home communicating through group skype calls video streaming their screens.

Waste of time and effort, a modern software development firm doesn't need to be geographically rooted in some gay silicon valley warehouse, just imagine the upkeep on that shit.

>>60069432
>Facebook employees earn 100k+.
and they have to live in expensive areas where 100k is as much as 50k elsewhere

>>60069453
>have to live in expensive areas
Menlo Park, CA cost of living isn't that high. If they're smart they'll just rent a cheap apartment, then they can probably retire by the time they're 35.

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I work in an office with 4 people and it's already noisy enough

If two people are on the phone, the other two cannot talk to each other or even on the phone

We all have headsets and what usually happens is whenever we have to make an important call (all the fucking time) we get up and move to one of our two meeting rooms for privacy and silence
In the meantime, our PCs, notes, printed reports and all the useful stuff are back in our office desk and we either have to remember all the important details or rush back to the desk mid-call to see something important

It's such a shitty design, and my boss wants to make us move our desks even closer in the future

>>60069494
this is why the laptop was invented, so you can carry it with you when you have an important call that has your important notes, reports and useful stuff with you.

fucking 1st world problems

>>60069533
Literally adult daycare

>>60069533
>every college kid thinks their first job will be like working at google with ball pits and overly lavish lounge areas

>>60069427
dis

>>60069432
minus living expenses, minus taxes, the only way to afford a yacht would be to spend absolutely nothing for several years

also

>come on you wage cuck, what's a few years of slavery for a yacht?

this attitude is cancerous, especially considering fuckerberg earns enough for a new yacht and another summer home every time he goes and takes a shit

>>60069717
>bitching about how your boss makes more money or what he does with his money

The point is that if you have more than enough to afford a comfy safe life style, then you shouldnt be complaining. The rest of the world has it far worse.

>oh no i have to work some overtime even though I'm just going to be sitting on my ass in a comfortable office with A/C

Ok, give me your job.

>>60069492
>cost of living isn't that high in the Bay Area
>cheap apartment in the Bay Area
>there's available apartments in the Bay Area

Basement dwelling NEET detected.

>leave all wiring, piping, insulation exposed
>call it modern

>>60069852
>save thousands and thousands in the process
Dumb fucks

>>60069852
Studies have shown that people work better in an open ceiling environment.

>>60069822
>nobody is allowed to complain about their boss for any reason
>only by sucking the cock of our feudal lord will we ever have a chance of not being one of those filthy disgusting subhuman poorfags
>the pinnacle of life is sitting at a desk with air conditioning getting yelled at to stay until midnight just because someone else fucked up

you are everything which makes the wagecuck attitude cancerous

>>60069367
Yeah but is it worth it if you hate your job?
Like, I seriously wouldn't do a shitty job that I hate even if it would mean I'd by financially safe for the rest of my life. You just get so fucking miserable and depressed after a while that it's hard to go on.

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>>60066719
Judging by your grammar, you'd work better as a technical writer sourced in China. LOL

>>60069533
Do they also have designated ballpit hours depending on how many hours you work a week?

>>60066709
>>60066876
I like the aesthetic of the open ceilings, desu. I would fucking kill myself with that open office plan though, at least segregate by department or something.

>>60069954
>Yeah but is it worth it if you hate your job?
>80k a year
>worth it
Yes.

I have no family/friends, so with that kind of money, I could do anything I fucking wanted. It's only for a few hours a week.

Suck that shit up and stop complaining.
Fucking ungrateful 1st worlders.

>>60069903
Show me one of those studies. I'd believe it if you mean people like high ceilings since that gives the impression of the room not being as cramped but open and exposed ceilings tend to make me feel uneasy.

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>encourage casual attire, never wear a suit
>call it hacker culture
>pay hoodie level wages not suit level wages

>have the work place arranged so it looks like a factory floor
>pay blue collar wages

Is Zuck a genius or what?

>>60066709
>>60066785
And that's the reason why the fucking USA is stealing all tech and stuff from other countries by spying like 3 year olds. Fuck you amurrica, the whole world hates you.

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>>60070066
>>pay hoodie level wages not suit level wages

>>60070066
No. I'm sure this is the culmination of lots of ideas coming from other people. What you posit sounds believable but I don't buy that it came from Zuck. He's only smart enough to have listened to the advice.

I received an invitation to apply at Facebook last week. Relocation paid for.
Have not responded yet.

>>60070025
no, you have never worked at a tech company so i'm giving you the benefit of the doubt why you don't understand how working at a company like that can be shit, the work is depressing and mentally exhausting, once you finish your 80 hours of work per week you go home on sunday night and there's nothing to do but sleep and wait to go back to work on monday morning

>>60070117
No you haven't.

>>60070105
I just saw a post on HN today titled something along the lines of "six-figures is low income" in SF.

>>60069579
kek. New offices being built at work, and I swear that those storage drawer things are the exact ones that they have on show (as a sample)

>>60070117
>invitation to apply

wowitsfuckingnothing.jpg

>>60070127
Sure, if it keeps you at ease :)
I'm not interested in working for them anyway.

>>60069852
You do realize that Suckersperg is a Jew, right?

>>60070125
>the work is depressing and mentally exhausting
That applies to 99% jobs, except most regular jobs are physically exhausting too.

>once you finish your 80 hours of work per week
You're not working 80 hours every week, dont even lie. More than likely, if shit needs to get done or someone massively fucked up, then sure you make up for it. Probably happens once a month

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>>60070066
speaking of hoodies

>>60070066
Average Facebook salary in Irish headquarters where they employ thousands is 150,000 euro+

>>60070134
>"six-figures is low income" in SF
No.

>>60070186
Hardly, must not be software then.
Software salaries are shit here

>>60070188
>not deferring to the HN groupthink
Someone smells unemployable.

>>60066709
Jesus, it looks like it'd be hard focusing in that kind of environment. I'm sure the company has enough money to at least clean the place up and maybe put a ceiling in to cover up the pipes and shit, and install a neat wall to cover up the huge beam with H24 written on it. It's like they found an abandoned space, cleaned it up in the most minimal way, and thought it'd be good to just randomly throw shit in there.

>>60070202
If you make 6 figures, you're not low income. Doesn't matter where on the planet you are.

Simple as that.

>>60070197
Most Irish "IT" headquarters like facebook and google are mostly advertising or business.

How do garbage men and street cleaners survive in SF?
... both of which are far more important than 80% of programmers by the way.

>>60070175
Link?

>>60070197
In Ireland? Google pay even more, where did you graduate from and what degree did you get? Most coders can't code for shit so ones who actually know what they're doing get big money. Did you ever go to the IOI or ACM?

>>60070220
They live outside the city and commute

>>60070220
>How do garbage men and street cleaners survive in SF?
like everyone in hugely expensive cities

long commutes

>>60066709
It's facebook.
What could these programmers possibly be stressing about.

>>60069533
>wanting to work with literal manchildren

>>60070246
>>60070240
Sad. People should be paid by their importance to society. Nobody needs the next hipstr meme app, but everyone needs clean streets and garbage disposal.

>>60070219
That's wrong. We've got way more data centers per capita than any other country. Also check this out http://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/google-in-dublin-for-the-engineers-not-just-the-back-up-and-tax-breaks-1.2876835.

>>60070216
Repeating yourself is a microaggression.

>>60070264
>Nobody needs the next hipstr meme app
Welcome to capitalistic society.

If people want pointless apps, then that's where the money is going to go.

>>60070264
People are paid by their worth, anybody can clean streets, it takes study and intelligence to code.

>>60070251
About which new poop emoji looks the best.

>>60070219
They are only here for tax reasons, same as every multinat here

>>60070233
UCC (currently ranked #1 college in the country, if you aren't familiar, for whatever it's worth), BSc in CS. First class honors.
Don't even know what IOI or ACM is

I don't see how anybody ever gets anything done.
Everybody is crammed together, all of your work in full view of the entire office, everybody talking around you + no walls or ceilings = sound carries throughout the office

I know people shit on cubicles, but they're great compared to this.
Work in privacy, get your own dedicated space, walls to hang stuff if you want, drawers to keep snacks...

>>60070232
D8 interview

>>60070169
>comparing facebook to mcdonalds
false dichotomy perpetuated by filthy wagecucks

>You're not working 80 hours every week, dont even lie.
clearly you have never worked anywhere where the work followed you home and was insidious, this is par for the course at tech companies

>>60070270
Saying "Smells unemployable" doesn't give me anything of value to respond back with aside from another repeat/shitpost.

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>>60070278
>>60070280
Ted Kaczynski was right
The only way out is to nuke everything and go back to primitivism.

>>60070292
Thanks

>>60070307
So don't.

>>60070288
>They are only here for tax reasons, same as every multinat here

Cept there are many many other developed countries out there with lower corporate tax rates and our personal tax rates are literally the least competitive for skilled workers in the world. Also unsure how you managed to not get a decent job after getting a first class honors degree. Have you tried Google, Facebook, etc? Usually they reach out to students who do particularly well.

>>60070326
I'm a dropout and they contacted me
Actual graduates must be swamped with offers from Google and Facebook

>>60070288
No it is not, UCC is third.
Trinners is first and UCD is second.

Not that it means anything, I go to a shitty IT and their comp sci course is better than Trinitys but having Trinity on your CV will get you anywhere.

>>60070289
>I don't see how anybody ever gets anything done.

Well I mean what do you think they're supposed to be 'getting done' at Facebook? New VR app? Tweaking their algos?

>not a single chair with a headrest

But at least they have a slide and a vintage pinball machine, right?

>>60070343
Companies like Facebook or Google have multiple development projects going at all times, trying to find the next 'big thing'. And no, VR isn't it, at least not in the near future.

>>60070343
Over 300 vacancies at Facebook Ireland alone
https://ie.linkedin.com/jobs/facebook-jobs

>>60070372
Google I can understand, but I rarely see anything new coming from Facebook. Then again perhaps it's because I actively ignore anything related to it.

>>60070343
Is Facebook not a company?

I assume some of these people write code.
I assume, somewhere, they have systems administrators who maintain their vast infrastructure.
I assume they have a marketing team, HR, finance, legal, plus a research department.

Facebook is a massive company. They will always have something they need to be done.

>>60070343
Those companies' main cost is server hosting and data centers. So if you can increase the efficiency of some code by 10% you could save millions. This is why they still hire so many people.

>>60066785
reminds me of halt and catch fire

>>60066709
Did anyone else realize that getting to your chair in the back would be hell?

Fuck this "open floor plan" meme, that just means that chairs are gonna be pushed back into the walking area.

Cubicles aren't degrading, they were designed with fatasses and walking in mind.

>>60066758
Too big to fail, only a correction happened when people were predicting a crash about a year ago.

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Microsoft does it right, everyone gets their own private office there

>>60070340
Guess it depends on who you go by, not sure who is the most respected body for deciding that stuff, but here is what I was refering to:
https://www.ucc.ie/en/about/uccnews/fullstory-709490-en.html

>>60070326
Only tried MS for placement, so I guess I shouldn't bitch so much unless I actually try interview with some of them.
I am surprised that they pay that much, none of the stuff I looked at said they pay so much (mainly Glassdoor), so I didn't even bother applying, as the cost of living in Dublin would negate the bumb in salary vs my current job

I can accept shared offices with 2-4 people
Just don't put marketers or customer support and programmers in one room

>>60066758
Google's stock will keep increasing as cost of storage goes down.

>>60070424
I thought Microsoft used to do this then switched to open floor plans.

>>60070392
>increase the efficiency
>facebook
They aren't Google.

For the most part, I'm willing to bet their main work involves methods for aggregating personal data from its users to be sold to third party companies.

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>>60070450
>then switched to open floor plans

>>60070424
that looks super comfy.

The local community college does this for the adjunct professors.
I would totally teach there if they gave me a comfy little cubby hole like this to work in.

>>60070436
Try it, make sure you prepare for them though, they're tough.

>>60070450
Yes
http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20140911-open-office-victims-push-back

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>open plan office

>>60070424
maximum comfy
There is nothing better than having your own enclosed space that still has enough space for most things.

>>60070465
Thanks Anon, I will begin to prepare

>>60070436
Slightly unrelated, what's your opinion on the Comp Sci course in UCC? Worth doing?

>>60070175
To be fair, the woman should've just let him keep the hoodie to himself. What was the point in taking the hoodie from him? To feel empowered?

>>60070035
no need. would you browse 4chan in an open space?

What would /g/'s ideal office have?

>>60070541
?

>>60070551
designated shitting floors

>>60066785
>women are too loud
>these stuffed animals keep falling on my desk
>one of the nu-males keeps trying to rope me into his office charity work excursion
>its too bright in here and my head hurts
>just trying to get my work done
>I want to die

>>60070551
Four walls, no door.

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>>60070105
Still underpaid, at least in sf that is.


Anyway, what determines how much should people in certain profession get paid? Everyone expects lawyers, doctors, people in finance, upper management to expensive. These groups have extremely long traditions of being paid well behind them. Software engineer or a data scientist is something new. I think engineers have a history and are step below lawyers etc. but but software engineer doesn't wear a hard hat and walk around inspecting things for example like traditional engineers did. Right now nothing is set in stone. Is it a blue or white collar job? Should they wear suits or are they hackers? Zuck wearing hoodie to suppress wages sounds crazy, but can't escape the fact that people who wear suits, have their own offices usually get paid more than those who don't.

>>60070439
Who the fuck does this?

>>60070534
If you get the grant, so it's free, then maybe.
It's not impressive, there are some good lecturers, some average/ bad, some terrible.
I haven't went to any other college(s), so I can't give a decent opinion. Might just be a 'grass is greener' thing though, everywhere might be the same. There was an Erasmus student from Paris that said it was way harder than in Paris, so who knows...
I can privately send some notes/ slides if you are interested

>>60070219
Not true, I worked in Sandyford where Microsoft have three big offices, two of them are sales and support. They have a smelly office building outside the fancy business park which is where they shove all of the engineers and there are a lot of them.

Two of the three flatmates I had in Dublin cut their teeth as software engineers with MS

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Post comfy office spaces

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>>60070768

>>60066758
Facebook is either gonna collapse big-time or Zuckerberg is gonna become cyberpunk emperor of Earth. Outside of that, only fairly utilitarian sites/apps like Youtube and Snapchat will survive (and MAYBE Tumblr because like it or not it has a hard to replace cultural niche).

>>60066709
15 years ago, in Italy, in my class, i could not drop my bag in between 2 rows tables, because it was against the safety laws for fire emergency.

I hope a fucking fire stats out in that place.

>>60066876
Honestly it's one of the less objectionable things there, open ceilings can make for a pretty chill "underground" vibe. It doesn't work with anything else in that pic, of course.

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>>60069533
Whoever has the time in the day to do this shit at work has a non-job.

>>60071016
This kind of stuff is for brogrammer startups where you never go home.

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>>60070551

>>60070424
>that mouse

>>60069427
This whole Silicon Valley "cool" workplace thing is really coming around to bite everyone in the ass, I almost suspect Timmy Turner wished for it.

>>60070649
Yeah that'd be good man, send it on to [email protected] whenever you can, thanks

>>60070551
My address, so I can work from home and not get memed into unemployment.

>>60066785
Looking at those stuffed toys makes me want to set them on fire, and I'm just looking at them in a picture. Up close in your face mocking you how can anyone even work.

>>60066785
I'd buy noise canceling headphones and cover myself and monitor in a sheet.

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FOR WHAT PURPOSE

>>60066709
Been to the facebook data center near me and it was much cleaner and nicer than this mess. There were developers on site and they had more private workspaces.

>>60071329
Sounds about right. This is the News Feed team, and I'll tell you it doesn't look half as messy as the average newsroom from a real journalistic organization.

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>>60066709

>>60071360
>real journalistic organization

For example? Like CNN or something?

>>60071047
I'd want a toilet too but That's about it.

>>60070317
>>60070292
>>60070232
>>60070175
HOLY FUCK HES NERVOUS KEK
seriously holy fuck

is he always that nervous or was it really just privacy shit getting him riled up?

>>60070551
Isolated room with no normies and some snacks and coffee

>>60066709
is that the ADHD factory floor?

>>60066874
the toilet cleaning engineers are (not pictured)

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>>60071323
Go further and get a couple tarps and 2x4s, wall yourself off. Course if you have dosh, grab a couple cube panels ideas

>>60066966
if that's your contract, chances are you're getting paid pretty well

>>60069608
I worked at a place like this for my first job after college (Very large US HIT company). This was the environment at the campus I was at...little work got done because everyone was goofing off or too busy getting massages/snacks/foosball during "work." Then they end up working at night/weekends to make up for it. I left after a year and a half and got the same salary with better benefits

The worst part is this meme is bleeding out into other industries outside of tech. I mostly work for civil engineering firms and some of the more recognized names have moved to open office plans only to realize what a meme it is. Most assholes end up putting in headphones and tuning out the world anyway. What a crock of shit. All is lost, the marketing fags and business swine have won it all.

>>60067012
That's from The Onion fyi
It's shocking how many people present it as genuine.

>>60071016
>If your employer complies with the law you have a non-job
que?

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>>60069933
>wagecuck
>wagecuck
>wagecuck
normalfag pls

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>We live in a day and age were the Office space environment is preferred to contemporary open office design

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traditional offices die

>>60069903
thanks, you're are the top contribution to my audible laughter from this thread

>>60071047
actually a great setup

>>60073146
Am I the only one who hates when anyone who knows anything about computers is known as a "hacker"? I get that it might have been an old school term some people are trying to bring back but it's used too much by media to refer to the people who send phishing emails.

>>60073154
I believe him. I'd much rather work in an office with a high ceiling than a low one. Smaller things have been shown to impact work ethics.

I can't even begin to accept that this is real. I want to die. is this really the world? it cant be why is it this way why did this happen kill me kill me kill me kill me kill me kill them

>>60073171
I work a blue collar job and asked my boss to print off some personal documents for me from my thumb drive

>This isn't some kind of virus or hacker thing on here now

>>60073171
What, you don't want to be called 4chan, the hacker?

>>60070105
adjust to CoL and see how nice those numbers look

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>>60073171
>Am I the only one
You're on /g/, retard, most people here agree about that

>>60072985
>open tarp
>see some fat neckbeard jerking off to anime
Never be bothered again.

>>60070005
>designated ballpit hours

Nobody got your reference but I enjoyed it, anon.

>>60073257
dashcon?

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>>60066709
Why is the Applel upside down.
>Android with problem glasses

>>60070105
>Data Scientist
I'm shaping this to be my """"career""""". I can't believe I'm going to be a walking, breathing meme.

>>60070135
the colored top really gives them a humin edge don't you tink?

>>60073267
yes

>>60067189
They do not. Indians generally work hard and are at least semi-qualified for the work they do. They're hired for cheap labour as opposed to affirmative action.

Indians who can speak english intelligibly are excellent.

I dunno how anyone can do this shit. I would have killed myself long ago if I had to sit in that hell every day. Thank god I work for myself and don't work in the tech sector. More people need to do their own thing and leave this shit work to Pajeet.

>>60066797
Hahahaha true

>>60066709
What they couldn't afford an actual ceiling or what

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>>60066874

>>60070280
>it takes study and intelligence to code
ahaha

>>60070949
>Tumblr culture

>>60070389
there isn't much room for growth
it's an advertising company with social services

they spend time eating up smaller social services normals use like Snapchat

>>60070551
no doors, windows, or dedicated light source

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>>60072985
WOWOWOWOW

> that feel when no cute asian gaming girlfriend

anon are you trying to make me feel sad?

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>>60073551

>>60073146
Suuuuuuuuun ;_;
All I wanted was a commercial UNIX with the dev community and support level of Windows

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>>60073551
Have some more

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>>60073551
Or a housewife
Src: http://www.redflava.com/2015/cgirls/yan-ke-ke-barbie-ke-er/

>>60073171
they're technically misusing the original term less than the shitty media
>>60073293
it's on a meme stand

>>60066966
It's a salary, your being paid to complete a job as opposed to being paid to be there.
Find a high paying job that cunts go to work and clock in/out.
It's for minimum wage jobs.

My office fell for the open space meme.

Most people generally don't like it. There are too many distractions. People walking by always catch my eye and it takes me 5-10 seconds to refocus on what I was doing.

We're moving back to the "cubicle" campus at the end of summer so I'm pretty hype. Cubicles are underrated as hell. Fuck whoever started this open space meme.

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>>60066709
>everyone has 2 2560x1600 or 4k monitors and fancy laptops
>meanwhile i have to scavenger empty offices in my corporate slave dungeon for some shitty 10+ year old 1280x1024 monitors for my ancient pentium 4 machine
>make pocket change compared to these hipster numales while jews still make millions
tfw not smart enough to work for facebook

>>60070072
t. butthurt europoor

>>60073623
actually its any job below $47,500 now thanks to the labor department

>>60073293
It's a stand for the MacBook you dip

>>60073647
You're a part of the system man
Youre a slave to the cubicle culture man
You have to open your mind to progress
Black Lives Matter

>>60073121
>>We live in a day and age were the Office space environment is preferred to contemporary open office design

We really don't. Most people, including tech companies, love the open space meme.

/g/ is pretty bitter though. Including myself. There was never anything inherently wrong with cubicles until, as you mention, Office Space came out and everyone started hating them for no reason.

>>60073717
>There was never anything inherently wrong with cubicles until, as you mention
it's a generational trend of pseudo intellectualism culture that will follow any idea as 'progressive' as long as it's different from the norm. I would say it's a toned down version of contrarianism

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>>60073664
I make six figures and my person computer is a ThinkPad T400 that runs Libreboot and Debian. I dock it and use a 1280x1024 monitor. I don't need anything else for personal use. New technology is a meme and it spies on you.

>>60073647
>not just gitting gud at focusing

>>60066905
>working more than 30-40 hours per week
Do you seriously think that's a lot? Have you graduated past kindergarten?

>>60073763
Politically correct contrarianism is progressiveness

It's supporting what major institutions, international corporations, your peers, authorities, and governments endorse while opposing what your dad likes.

>>60073171
>Am I the only one
Yes, you are, you special snowflake.

>>60073551
>>60073570
>>60073586
>>60073602
>500 plastic surgeries later

>>60070535
>What was the point in taking the hoodie from him?
He was sweating and he probably smelled like shit because of it. Women tend to care about that.

>>60066785
He is on his phone. He has no fucking privacy at all and can't have anything private up on his screen or like 50 people will wonder what he's up to.

>>60073966
Am I the only one who thought this too?

>>60066709
Tons of Pajeets and slants up in that distraction chamber.

I can smell the curry and rotten fish from here...

>>60066709
I work in a NOC with about 100 people on the floor and a NASA mission-control style layout.

It can get a bit annoying at times, mainly when people used to be able to put their phones on speakerphone and blast the whole fucking space with whatever conversation, but ever since speakerphone was disabled it's been manageable.

When the talking gets too loud I just stick in some earbuds and I'm good.
I think the main difference between where I work and that zoo in the OP is the people. I work in a relatively professional environment, where people won't bother you unless they need something from you.
Most of my coworkers just shitpost or browse reddit whenever they want a break from work, so it stays pretty quiet. We also have a clearly defined mission, which if it begins to be hampered, the boss shuts everyone up real fast.

I don't think the layout itself is that terrible, because libraries have a similar open layout and are quite productive spaces. They are, however, quiet.
You can just look at that picture and know that it sounds like a mall food court in there.

>All those Macs

/g/ BTFO

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>>60073918
Yes, yes, good wagie. Be proud of working 60+ hours a week, you are very highly valuable asset to the company and surely cannot be replaced by anyone else. Keep it up, maybe you can ask your boss Goldberg about that promotion. Oh wait! He's on vacation until next month. Unfortunate! Well, I think it's time for you to get back to work. Chop chop, Goldberg is looking forward to buying another Ferrari.

>>60073664
I know that feel. I'm a journalist, I make shit for salary.

Thank God for rich parents.

>>60066785
How many water bottles does a Facebook employee need?

>>60069427
>Facebook
>hipster startup

lmao

>>60073918
There really isn't a reason to work more than 40 hours per week.
Putting in those 70 hour weeks is both harmful to your health and it's very likely that many of those hours are not really productive.
In the end, you're just wasting your own life trying to kiss ass and look good so you can maybe get that promotion.

>>60070551
I doubt my hypothetical company would ever employ more than 15 people
It would be just a normal fucking office, not with cubicles since I won't be able to see what's going on, but each person gets his own 1.5m long desk
Break room has maybe a ping pong table and a darts board, no pool table because pool games last way too long.

>>60066905
Are you stupid? That's a 9-5, 5 days a week.

I'd understand if you said 10 hours every day for an employee is unreasonable but even 40 hours per week (9-5) still includes breaks. You're going for a few hours, have a short break, go for a few more hours and then break. If you can't be productive in that environment then you're a lazy fuck.

Successful entrepreneurs may work 12 hour days, 7 days a week if it's something they're passionate about.

>>60074764
>Having to watch your employees constantly
Why? If you assign them work and they do it in the allotted time then what's the problem?

Cubicles offer a sense of privacy and discretion. People can concentrate on what they need to do without distraction like their boss looking over their shoulder every few minutes.

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>>60070551
Depends on the purpose of the company.

I'd enjoy sort of a cube farm, but with people in little pods of 3 or 4, if I had a lot of people. Management would get their own offices.

With a smaller staff, probably something like pic related, where it felt more open but still was private.

>>60069842
Seriously fuck that faggot. I couldn't even find a shitty sublet in Oakland.

I dream of offices that are truly open. No walls or ceilings.

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>>60075171
All this except in an open field and only a hole in the ground to poop in

>>60074957
My company is like that, but only because we have 50 employees and teams are small.

>>60075171
>that
>truly open

>not the open vacuum of space, where no gravitational forces or solid objects are there to oppress you

My office just went to Open.

I have ADHD so now my productivity is at zero.

I bought some Bose QC15's and now I still can barely focus.

All of the nu-males surround my desk and talk for 4 hours a day about random shit, mostly about how much they hate Trump.

I fear I'm going to get fired because I can't focus.

I'm fucked.

>>60075409
How are your coworkers not fired if they spend the majority of the day doing nothing?

Start sending your resume my man, 10x easier to get a job while you're still employed.

>>60066709
>women engineers all have CHAD boyfriends
>report the autistic male devs for sexual harassment as soon as one of them nervously says hello

>>60075409
>plot twist: you and all of your numale coworkers are diversity hires and your entire work output is completely ignored because you're just a seat warmer for their diversity tax writeoffs.

>>60075409
just up your adderall prescription bruh

>>60074900
>Successful entrepreneurs may work 12 hour days, 7 days a week if it's something they're passionate about.
Successful entrepreneurs don't work. They make "passionate" idiots like you work for them and make them money.

>>60075480
I think you mean user-system-design engineering scientist doctors

>>60075537
huh?

>>60074900
Protip:

If you own your own business, you're working for yourself. Hopefully one day your business will be worth millions.
If you're working those hours for someone else, you're being had. You'll get a check for your time, they'll reap the benefits in the long run.

>>60075409
Same. Half height cubes are not the same as regular cubes! I can't get anything done. Just did an interview with another company though so there is still hope out there! Apply elsewhere!

>>60070949
>Outside of that, only fairly utilitarian sites/apps like Youtube and Snapchat will survive (and MAYBE Tumblr because like it or not it has a hard to replace cultural niche).
how do i know you're underage

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>>60070949
>Utilarian
>Like youtube and snapchat

>>60071326
One/both of those are a Cinema Display

>>60075476
I've been applying. I need to go before they can me.

>>60075499
I'm Greek so I don't offer anything diverse.

>>60075507
I got addicted to that and had to get off. Never again. I was up for days and wound up in the ER.

>>60075788
That's my plan! Also hang in there, another job will come along man!

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>>60070216

Well if you read the article, that was the household income for a family of 4. If you're single and making six figures and that's "low income" you're doing something wrong.

my work has an open arrangement, but we've slowly been adding more and more dividers

soon we'll be feudal again

>>60070960
Yeah I am wondering how this is up to fire code considering how exposed the cabling looks and how fucked everyone will be during an evacuation due the general arrangement of everything.

>>60076011
Ugh
Greek diversity hires were so 1980

We're now hiring Somalis and East Timorese. That's what really fashionable.

>>60076094
The exposed cabling is basically just the same as how cabling looks if you were to take off the ceiling tiles in any other building. It's just ugly, not dangerous.

I agree about the arrangement of things, being a massive hazard.

>be Todd
>work under AC unit in the mobile app bloat department
>hear the unmistakeable shreik of a nu-male
>african made organic coffee grinder catches fire
>"emote" division immediately goes up in flames
>burning iMacs release the smoke of 6 trillion burning Steves
>4 feet visibility, everyone is making a mad dash to the one marked exit
>trip over Stephanie's cultural plushies
>smack head off ergonomic standing desk
>burning abstract hanging art falls on you, sealing your doom
>Facebook, Be Discovered™

>>60066966
>>60069315
It is?

I'd never sign a contract with something like that

t. blue collar worker

>>60076315
you've never worked in an air conditioned office

>>60076315
It is. Then you get people sitting at their desk for 60+ hours a week, thinking they're somehow accomplishing more than those who go home at 5, when in effect, they're committing worse and worse source code, or none at all, as they get tired.

>>60074682
Completely agreed. There are many successful software companies without insane hours, some even LIMIT the hours you are allowed to work.

>>60066785
>They dont check for guns when I come in.
>should I live stream it?
>what will 4chan say?
>Tomororw I Hero Up.

>>60075409
>Bose QC15
Enjoying your spying headphones?

>>60076328
I have, actually

I was an electrical engineer before I switched to my current vocation as a truck driver

>>60070072
>Fuck you amurrica, the whole world hates you
there is a reason a lot of americans dont have passports.
we dont care about the rest of the world.
your hate and the worlds hate is completely irrelevant to us.
and you likely only hate our government. join the club.

Why do Millennial companies always have such long ass hours, like 9-7 or 10-8?

What does working 10+ hours a day accomplish?

>>60076346
I will take my corporate environment and stricter dress code, because I can clock out at 4pm and work doesn't follow me home.
No bitter BS from some "team leader" that I haven't worked 60 hour weeks, and if I'm not the on-call, I can rest assured that nobody expects me to work on things at home or take phone calls.

Startups are the real meme.

>>60076386
long haul? how hard is it to become one of them?

seems like the perfect job for someone that wants to get away from everything

>>60076433
That was what my situation was. I worked from 7-7 every single day at some startup company in Jew York.

I ended up leaving at like 6 without telling because I was starving and wanted dinner. I never ate lunch because I was working so damn much.

I'm glad I left marketing to become a factory worker in the South. Less pay yes, but I get hours of my life back. 40 hours, no more.

>>60072985
who the fuck thought this commercial was a good idea

>>60076432
It's part of the startup culture.
The idea is that you dedicate yourself and "get in on the ground floor", because that automated juicer company is going to be the next twitter or facebook.
The reality is that you work 70 hour weeks, get paid shit, get a ball pit, and the company goes under once it runs out of VC.

>>60076386
Do you have a nephew by chance? If you do, hi.

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Those and several other Bose headphones pipe anything you listen to and personally identifiable information to a 3rd party data mining company that Bose uses to make their customers "experience better". Welcome to the future

>>60076437
No, deliveries with a semi truck. I always sleep in my own bed at home.

It was easy back then but has gotten harder since due to qualification requirements (europoor here)

>>60076469
Not that I know of

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>>60066785
me every fucking day even though I'm in a separate room, the assholes next door are so fucking loud since they act like literal children
can't even wear headphones because it would be awkward considering I have one coworker in the room who randomly decides to talk, 90% of the time about shit I don't even understand or bother to understand

>>60076490
>>60075409

>>60076493
>Not that I know of
My uncle was an EE and became a long haul truck driver, wouldn't surprise me if he was on here.

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>>60070551

>>60076469
That's true.

I got paid 14 an hour. I got paid such shit. I got fired but I didn't care. I feel like every company is like this now. Open office, 70 hour work weeks etc. It's fucking miserable.

But hey, free PBR on Fridays! That's worth my sanity right!?

>>60069432
$350k for a yacht lmao, maybe a 50ft boat but id hardly call that a yacht

>>60076548
I'm military now, not really getting paid that well for my work, but it's written in our regs that they have to aim for 40 hour work weeks.
Sometimes you work more, but then again we get federal holidays off (or at least comped for them).

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>>60075507
Adderall and all other focus drugs are dangerous. You trade easy focus for heart health. Recently, I came across a handful of those pills, each in high dose. I would take them and get lots of work done - and I would also drink coffee and tea while doing it, giving me heart pains and insomnia. Yes, I got lots of shit done and made some professional strides, but I had lingering heart pains for the following two months.

However, I suggest that any anons who both have not taken them and struggle with procrastination to try and get some adderall to play with. Take a pill and set yourself up to complete some coding work. You will teach yourself what it is like to focus, and then in the following days you can apply that focus that you had without the drug. This has worked for me.

>>60069852
keeping the wiring exposed can bee good if they need to rearrange, bungie does something similar but its the floor that comes up

>>60076548
Who cares what you think?

Open borders will be commonplace within the next 50 years and if you don't want to be a corporate slave, Pajeet sure will and if Pajeet becomes to cost in his environment then we'll turn to the next developing world with hungry employees willing to work for peanuts without complaint and vote for the policies we lobby for.

>>60070105
>mfw my $86k starting is equivalent to $230k in that shithole city
>and I have an office
>and me and every other engineer leaves at 4:30 and nobody calls after hours unless something has literally exploded
>get to put on a hardhat and tell people what to do every once in a while

Why do all you people want to be code monkeys, again?

>>60070372

VR not in their future?

I can only assume you just woke up from a coma or are completely retarded.

If you just woke up from a coma:

It's 2017 now. In the time you were asleep Facebook has since purchased Oculus, a major player in VR. They also have been investing heavily in VR apps, including Facebook 360, and most recently Spaces, a social hangout app for Oculus.

If you didn't just wake up from a coma and made that statement in a fit of retardation that I can only assume must be a common thing for you:

Your toaster turns into a stereo if you bring it into the bathtub and dunk it in the water. Plug it in and jump in the tub to hear all your favourite songs!

that girl is on facebook lol

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I'm pretty disgusted by the 'wage slave' rhetoric that's on this board. I surmise that anyone that spouts that garbage is a completely entitled asshole. Here's why: Everyone born in North America has it really fucking good. No one here really has to worry about indoor plumbing, starving to death, running out of clean water, etc.. So it's safe to say that North Americans have gotten completely used to a high standard of living. BUT, the problem is that we've opened the Pandora's Box of globalization, and we cannot go back: Labor prices are only going to keep normalizing around the world, and that means that North American wages are dropping. That's the truth. People in shitty countries will happily work like a dog for much less money.

And how do North Americans at large respond to this? We complain about being 'wage slaves' to the jews. It's embarrassing that we're on our last leg as the greatest continent on Earth, that everyone looks up to, and our own people delude themselves into thinking that we're being taken advantage of and we are opressed by our employers.

We make magnitudes more money than almost anyone else on the planet. Why don't we focus less on how we're getting scammed out of this, or that, and instead focus on re-cementing North America as the most bad ass continent on Earth? Why aren't we working even harder, starting even more balls-to-the-wall startups, and making more unicorns? That's how we keep afloat on a continent with an extremely low birthrate and GDP growth. Taking about how you're opressed doesn't do jack shit. Be a capitalist.

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>>60070551
lounge with pastel coloured furniture plushies coffee and stuff, maybe some kpop in the background
offices are located around lounge accessed through doors, they have windows with curtains and similar decorations

>>60076697
You make way too much sense and your proposal requires hard work and daring. This board doesn't have any of that. Sorry.

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>>60076697
>why don't we work harder
We're working harder than ever before yet wages have not gone up to match our level of productivity.

The last thing anyone should be doing is "working harder".

>>60070188
meh. my cousin pays like $4500 for a shitty two bedroom in the east bay.

that's 55 grand on housing, and it's not even a nice place.

>>60076697
> It's embarrassing that we're on our last leg as the greatest continent on Earth, that everyone looks up to


America is literally a joke to the rest of the world.

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>>60076697
>oy vey goyim, you've got 19th century luxuries like food and water, what are you complaining about?
>pajeet doesn't even need a toilet, how are you going to compete?
>no no no, you're not getting scammed, don't think about that, work harder to make the west great again!
>what was that? No, there isn't greater wealth disparity now than ever before in the U.S.
>now stop whining and get to work! My - I mean our money won't make itself.

Fuck off globalist jew. Productivity has increased for the last 40 years and real wages have not. Hour's haven't decreased. Where's that money going?
Pajeet isn't the enemy... a certain breed of merchant is.

>>60076771
To young idiots that grew up consuming leftist media.

>Americans are so dumb, they allow guns!

>>60076742
Nah, this board is a little beyond the idea of slaving your life away in hopes that your master will throw you some of the table scraps.
Nobody's arguing against work. We are against the idea of throwing your own life away to build someone else's company.

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>>60076548
I feel you. My first job was similar. A good strategy is to look for companies / industries which sound pretty boring. Mostly you work fewer hours, for better pay and more job security.

>>60076803
>Wealthy people are good with money
>Poor people are stupid and buy whatever consumer crap they can the instant they get money while complaining about averages of who's earning what for what amount of work
>Global organisations abuse foreign, cheap labour but that has nothing to do with increase in the Rich's wealth or the problem with western economy

>>60076697
t. NEET neckbeard

>>60066719
Wrong. You would rather be in a cubicle though because people are more comfortable with privacy. Many studies have been done and open-space work studies almost always show increased efficiency. People are less inclined to slack off when they know everybody will be watching.

>>60076697
>we complain about being wage slaves to the jews

i'm pretty sure most americans don't actually realize it's the jews.

also Mexico is part of North America, and they have genuine wtfm8-tier poverty.

>>60076841
Shitskins think it's the whites, whites know it's the jews, jews thinks it's the goys.

>>60076814
It's OUR company, faggot. Tesla, Uber, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Google, SpaceX, Yahoo!, Walmart and Walgreens are AMERICA'S company. They employ Americans. They fund the American government, which funds your social services (few they may be).

The CEO throws his entire life away to become the master of the current economic playing field. He works endlessly to maintain complete intelligence of the inside and outside of his companies. He understands his competitors and he retains his top talent from poaching. And YOU reap the benefits. Who is the slave now? Is it you, the worker who puts in 50 hours a week, or the CEO who puts in his entire mental and physical being to bring your country good fortune?

Jew speakers and men afraid of work will be forgotten swiftly as the 21st century changes the world forever. Even Mark Zuckerberg is a great man.

>>60069338
>>60072990
>>60073623
I have that on my contract and I only make $85k (software dev, no degree) after a year in a low cost of living area. I feel like a waste of life cuck every second I'm at work because that is in my contract.
If I was making at least $250k then I wouldn't complain.

>>60073717

People hated cubicles fucking long before Office Space.

You know all the complaining people do about open office layouts?

That's exactly how much complaining went on about cubicles.

Prior to the cube farm people had offices.

>>60076697

Plenty of capitalist places without your wage fuck mentality there bud.

Compare yourself to Europe, where you get eight weeks vacation (and four to six is the legal minimum), don't have to pay health insurance, and un paid overtime is illegal.

Stick your 'be thankful, work harder, for less' nonsense back up your ass.

>>60076830
Oh that's right! If I just save my pennies, I too can amass the $20 Million to enter the ranks of the 0.1 percent.
Just those darned poor people keep spending their money on TV dinners and Olde English 800.

Don't doubt for a second that the rich didn't rig the H1B system to get to the point where it's synonymous with Indian.
The whole thing should be scrapped.

>>60076878
>Who is the slave now?
I am. You are.
The CEO makes enough money that he could have quit 5 years ago, and retired to his beach house in Florida.
You and I have to continue to work to eat. We don't have a choice.
Unless you were gifted a large inheritance, you have rent or a mortgage to pay. If we work for 45 years, maybe we can retire at age 65 and enjoy the last 15 years of our lives.
The best you and I can do is pick a career which will minimize the impact of work on how we want to live.

Despite what your idol Ronnie said, the wealth really doesn't "trickle down".

>>60076878
>Tesla, Uber, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Google, SpaceX, Yahoo!, Walmart and Walgreens

Then why do they all do the irish triple shuffle where they pay almost no corporate taxes to the US because ireland gives them a better deal simply by setting up a small office there?

>>60076839
Efficiency at what?

A bunch of "creatives", fucking around drawing pictures and talking with other "design engineers" may benefit from this. Someone trying to program a controller for some industrial use probably won't.

>>60076697
Ironic you post someone that is notorious for being a shitty boss requiring his employees to work ridiculous hours while on regular 40 hour a week salary so no overtime is paid.

>>60076992
You understand these wealths usually come from families working for generations to amass it right?

Why do you children demand that you should be able to go from poverty to wealthiest man ever reliably if you work 9-5, 5 days a week?

EVEN IF you are black and live in poverty, statistically, you will likely enter the middle class if you: finish highschool, get a job and don't have a kid before marriage. From middle class, your children will have a good chance of going to university or starting a business.

My grandparents were dirt poor and worked their entire lives. My dad started a business and entered the middle class. Now, I'm going to university.

The system works. When my kids are upper class, don't you dare try to take ourqealth from us just because you come from a family of lazy losers. Pinko faggots get the rope.

>>60069453
All they have to pay is rent. Food, transportation, laundry, etc is all covered.

>>60076646
86k is not equal to 230k unless you are spending 144k MORE per year on living expenses (which you aren't, because I bet you don't have a wife or kids). Don't kid yourself that 86k is somehow better.