/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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how can I access my email using TempleOS?

install Void

Hey guys, I'm new to GNU/Linux and have a few questions.

I have read a lot about ubuntu containing telemetry and being the 'Windows' of the GNU/Linux world, yet a good friend of mine who works in netsec and regularly attends Defcon tells me that they all use ubuntu. I'm interested to see what you're take on the matter is.

Is there a reason it is so widely used compared to distributions such as Fedora and OpenSUSE?

>>60015226

>telemetry
That's a Windows buzzphrase, stop using it.
Ubuntu is a normal distribution, like any else.

>>60015226
Just use it. The whole 'ubuntu is spyware' is just a meme. At one point they did have a thing that sent your search results to Amazon, but they haven't done that since 16.04.

I'm sure some anon will sperg out to you about that.

Just stick with Ubuntu, Antergos, Mint ,etc if you're a new user. Then you can branch out and learn other stuff.

>>60015254

You use the same programs and can "learn" them on any distribution.
Only idiots use different distributions to "learn" things. Knowing how to use a package manager, which is the only distribution specific software, is non-specific, almost useless knowledge.

Would it be possible to run linux on top of windows (vm or other method) with relatively good performance? Dualbooting is a hassle and this would make sense imo.

>>60015332
Doesn't Windows have Ubuntu on Bash or something.

Anyways the better route is to use Linux, Install QEMU and then set up GPU passthrough (It's not hard to set up don't listen to people saying it's hard) so the VM uses your main 'gaming' GPU.

That way you get full performance in a VM

Hello guys. I decided to give linux a shot after all the shit bothering me was windows specific. So I went for Debian, dunno if it was a good or bad decision, I'm not complaining tho; got everything to work properly so far. I've got a question about the drivers tho, sorry if it's retarded. When it comes to AMD drivers, on their site they provide distro specific drivers for new cards. How does that work? I tought that drivers should work on all distros the same like nvidia ones.

Does that mean the new cards wont work on debian at all? I'm curious because I wanted to switch to Vega when it comes out (wanted it for rendering)

>>60015364
I am aware of this method, unfortunately, my processor doesn't support VT-d.

>>60015367
Of course the AMD drivers work fine on Debian.
this should help:
https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo
>>60015375
darn

>>60015397
Yeah, but anything I do on my linux partition is strictly browsing, media, etc. So I was wondering maybe a VM wouldn't throttle the performance too much if I set it up right.. Well that's the problem, I don't know what method to even try and was wondering if anyone knew.
(and no, I don't want to run ubuntu through the windows 10 bash thing)

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What happened to HTML5 media controls on Firefox?

>>60015424
If you're just browsing stuff on the web and listening to music, then it should be perfectly fine in a VM. but gaming, rendering, etc is a no-go.

>>60015397
Thanks, it's strange there are no official drivers for these

>>60015367
Get the drivers from your distro, not amd.
Checking that the distro supports your hardware generally is a good idea before choosing it.

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Holy shit.
I just installed debian in a vm, becaust I wanted to test something. Why is it running an ancient kernel? What the fuck?!

>>60015765
debian

>>60015765
Enable the unstable repository if you want the newest kernel.

/sqt/ is dead, what is LVM? Should I use it for my partition?

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Ooh. A friendly GNU/Linux thread. What a nice initiative.

Running Ubuntu 16.04/Mate on server. Accessing with X2Go.

Trying to upload files from my Nextcloud Webdav accessed folder. (number 1 in pic).

Would like this Webdav folder to always be accessible at bookmarks in file upload window (see digit 2 in pic).

I am confused as to why this network location is not there as a link already. TL;DR How do I add link to 1 at location 2?

Tried navigating to the var/www/nextcloud/data folder from inside the GUI, but can't due to some permissions issue. Thought I'd try mapping this webdav location first.

Lame question, I know. I use Ubuntu every couple of years. Stop using it, then I have to relearn it all over again.

Thank you in advance, Gentlemen/scholars.

>>60016019
Logical Volume Manager of the Linux kernel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_(Linux)

You don't need it for everyday, normal home use.

>>60015932
>unstable repo in stable

don't.

Use backports, the kernel used in sid is usually backported.

How hard is it to do day to day tasks on Linux without GNU or any of the GNU coreutils?

>>60016360
>>>/p/lebbit

>>60016360
I don't use gnu. I do everything with emacs in virtual console.

>>60016019
>>60016059
Only two features are useful for everyday home use:
The ability to encrypt many partitions in one disk at once. So you only have to type the password once.
Snapshots for system recovery.

>>60016360
>How hard is it to do day to day tasks on NT without Windows or any of the Windows programs?

>>60016416
>I don't use gnu
>I use gnu emacs

>>60016434
No. The old emacs. Before it was a gnu app.

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>>60016450
>app

>>60016427
I think she means with equivalent software but not from the GNU project.

Richard Stallman is a crook! He wants all software to be free so he can modify and redistribute it for a profit!

>>60016514
Why do you care about usage of equivalent words? I would have used the word soft you would be happy? Are you retarded?

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>>60015023
>Activate Maccy D's WiFi

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>>60016543
Friendly reminder.

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>>60016543

someone in the last thread told me to use this python script to enable "aero style window snapping to Openbox":
https://github.com/BunsenLabs/bunsen-utilities/blob/master/bin/bl-aerosnap
but i don't know what to do with it, i can't find a guide on the github page. i'm pretty noob pls

>>60016639
chmod x bl-aerosnap
then move it somewhere in your $PATH
then you can start it like any other command

>>60015461
they are fucked in 53, stay on 52esr

>>60016565
>soft
Try
Application
Software
Program

>>60016800
Ok you're an idiot.

>>60016360
Use busybox

Right, so for some reason my system's UTC time is one hour ahead.

My timezone is in DST, which makes me think there's something up with ntpd which makes it adjust the UTC time according to DST, and then my system's locale re-adds one hour for DST, resulting in the wrong time being displayed.

How can I try to debug that? Ntpd is running using ntp.ubuntu.com, and it seems to keep the minutes and seconds synced so it's kinds working. I know it's not a problem with my locale because date --utc returns the wrong time.

I'm relatively new to the Linux world
I tried many different distros and desktop environments
they share some core problems

>font
the default font on LITERALLY EVERY disto and DE I tried looked awful
why is the default font walmart tier?
why not include the font that os x uses?
and don't give me that legal crap, there should be a free version of it

>taskbar
I come mainly use windows
productivity is important to me
I need to switch between multiple programs regularly
the lack of window list taskbar on most of the DEs is disturbing
and if there is a window list then most of the time the windows can't be ordered by drag and drop
a basic feature present since windows 95 missing in 90% of DEs

>scaling
I use a 4k monitor
no DE scaled well, no matter how I fiddled with the settings
why do I need to scale the text, window, panels, etc separetaly?
why not a common dpi setting?
why must be the scale factor a whole number?
even windows 7 could do fraction number scaling

>programs
need a program that's not in the repository?
just download this project from github and COMPILE IT YOURSELF
compiling it gives you 20 warnings and 10 errors? HAHA GOOD LUCK WITH THAT
why is there no unified [click here to compile/install this program] solution?

>>60016024
Nobody?

So are there supposed to be Network Shares links in that Firefox file upload window sidebar?

Tempted to try out Sabayon Linux. Is it a decent babbys first Gentoo based distro?
I like the idea of Gentoo but I really don't have the time to set it up, so Sabayon seemed like a decent choice.

>>60015462
Alright I set it up on a wm, runs smoothly. Only small issue is that inside the vm, the output is detected as "vga", instead of what i'm physically using, (dvi). Meaning no matter what options with xrandr I use, it's still stuck at 60hz since it's running vga.
Is there a way I can get virtualbox to run at 120hz?

>>60016024
probably in gconf or dconf, gtk3

>>60016998
create /etc/adjtime with the following content:

0.0
0.0
UTC

then set your time using ntpdate and after that sync then hwclock --systohc

>>60017110
OK. Will try that. Thanks

>>60016678
sorry i'm more noob than that. i have bunsenlab installed, do i need to place that script somewhere in my filesystem or it's already included? i tried that command and it gave me "chmod: invalid mode: 'x'"

>>60017169
+x

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>>60015023
How can I change the look of these on Linux? I don't have an example of them since I forgot to take a screenshot before going back into Windows to take this but they look like complete shit.

>>60017244
Theme? If you're using FF, it handles your system's theme poorly. It's recommended to use a userstyle or a theme addon

>>60016998
stop ntpd
and after that

ntpd -gq && hwclock -w

>>60017169
You maybe want to create your own ~/bin directory where you can place your scripts in the future and add this directory to your $PATH. Your $PATH holds locations where the shell searches for executable programs. You can see the default locations by executing:

echo "$PATH"

To do this, you add a line like this into your ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc:

if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then
  export PATH="$PATH:$HOME/bin"
fi

Any script you want to run must be executable. To do this run:

chmod u+x myscript

This makes your script executable for your (u)ser.
Once a script is executable, place it somewhere in your $PATH so the system can find it. If you don't want to create a ~/bin directory, you can just place it into /usr/local/bin/.

sudo mv myscript /usr/local/bin/

But that's not good practic, I suggest creating a bin directory in your home directory instead.

>>60017244
GNU/Linux*

>>60017169
It should be already included. Just run bl-aerosnap from a terminal.

>>60017337
>if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then
> export PATH="$PATH:$HOME/bin"
>fi
No
if there is a bin in "$HOME" it must be before everything.

PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"

>chmod u+x myscript
no just

chmod +x myscript

>But that's not good practic, I suggest creating a bin directory in your home directory instead.
I agree.

>>60017396
>MUST be before everything
No, it doesn't. It can be the last one in *unless* you have a script or some shit like modifying how a default binary from your distro is run

>>60017443
When I compile a software, I don't want to use the OS but mine. Putting ~/bin after everything is useless.

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>60017463
>Useless
What if you use $HOME/bin just for random personal scripts? No son, it's not useless, and definitely not a MUST. Quit being autistic

How do I copy files with spaces read from a list?
List looks like this:

./image 1.png
./im age 2.png
./i m a ge 3.png
./ima ge 4.png
...
./imag e n.png

I tried

xargs -a list cp -t ~/images

and

for i in `cat list`; do cp "$i" ~/images; done

and both didn't work for files with spaces.

>>60017526
He has a point. When you create a program called "convert", you except your system to run your program instead of imagemagicks' convert.

>>60017526
SO you made two different bin in your home? Or you never compile a soft yourself?

>>60017553
I know, but it doesn't apply to all cases. They give you a *choice* to prepend aor append it for a reason

>>60017550
>

for i in `cat list`; do cp "$i" ~/images; done

why not just call the list directly?

>>60017550
while read -r line; do cp "$line" ~/images/; done < fonts

>>60017562
I've compiled shit and I let my pkg manager track it, what shitty distro are you using

>>60017580
s/fonts/file

>>60017581
you really package your compiled software? good on you then...

>>60017112
>>60017331
Thanks guys, it's working now!

I think I installed ntpd while braindead tired and didn't actually register it as a service. One reboot later and I'm sitting here expecting it to sync stuff while it's not even running. Should be fixed now.

>>60017598
Good luck uninstalling your program without an uninstall routine.

>>60017580
thanks, this worked
is there not a simpler/shorter solution though?

>>60017574
what do you mean?

>>60017598
It's not that hard? Are you this fucking /new/? Your PACKAGE MANAGER is there for a reason

>>60017616

cd "$HOME/local" && rm -Rf bin etc include lib libexec man opt share var

fucking easy

>>60017581
arch

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>>60017470
telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl

>>60017676
neat, I would use it too, but I'm not smart enough ;_;

>>60017681
>>60017470
telnet nyancat.dakko.us

hey guys, I'd like to switch to linux but there are a few things that are stopping me
1) I love to have desktop widgets such as rainmeter and I can't find a linux equivalent
2) can't get used to linux, keep going back to
3) arch linux or gentoo?

>>60017616
install checkinstall

CheckInstall keeps track of all the files created or modified by your
 installation script ("make install" "make install_modules", "setup", etc),
 builds a standard binary package and installs it in your system giving you
 the ability to uninstall it with your distribution's standard package
 management utilities.

>>60017738
Install Source Mage GNU/Linux.

>>60017738
Wipe Windows. Overwrite everything with Ubuntu GNU/Linux. Install conky.

>>60017703
>>60017681
>>60017470
telnet freechess.org

>>60017738
1) Conky
2) Learn English
3) Ubuntu is made for niggers like you

>>60017337
uuh i've done everything but i still don't have it working. i placed it inside /home/*mynale*/bin (it was already in my $PATH) then used the chmod command (it became green so i think it's executable) then i right clicked on it and selected "Execute", but nothing

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so i was trying to figure out why I couldn't switch between two analog audio outputs (headphones/speakers) and after unplugging the cords, kubuntu no longer wants to send any sound to anything that gets plugged in.

i've tried:
1) changing the device config in audio & video settings (pic related)
2)
>killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse/* ; rm -r ~/.pulse*
>pulseaudio -k
>reboot
3) (after losing all audio settings)
>sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

i also thought it might be an issue with my HDMI connection taking the output, so i pulled the plug on that. i've tried only using 1 output device (just to get sound confirmation), ive tried switching the connection port. nothing is working.

most ubuntu wikis have outdated info

>>60017814
>but nothing
create 2 new hotkeys
one for bl-aerosnap --left
one for bl-aerosnap --right

>>60017841
oh and i tried using the feature to make a "dummy" device that handles simultaneous output to all devices and i still get nothing.

>>60017810
>>60017703
>>60017681
>>60017470
telnet telehack.com

>>60017636
I usually just symlink binaries

to be honest I haven't written many rpmbuild scripts

>>60017634
for i in "$list"; do

>>60017681
>blinkenlights.nl
Theres also a BOFH excuse service on port 666
telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl 666 | tail -2

>>60017894
sorry, if sh:

for i in "${list[@]}"; do

>>60017681
>>60017703
>>60017877
>>60017910
Are these MUDs? I'm too much of a pussy to try

>>60017841
try pavucontrol, it's a quite good memeaudio config tool

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>>60017989
just finished rebooting after trying it. nothing was muted, all volume controls are up and in theory it should be working. i don't get it.

>>60017636
>implying all software belongs in a package

>>60018078
post the "configuration" tab

>>60018079
No shit, nothing is implied. Nothing is set in stone, choices exist for a reason. Fucking autists

>>60017851
looking inside rc.xml i discovered that they where already defined?? alt + windows key + right/left arrow do exactly what i want, thank you

Can zsh do this?

$ sed 1d < /dev/tcp/time.nist.gov/13
57865 17-04-22 16:36:20 50 0 0 260.8 UTC(NIST) *

>>60018160
kek, happy hacking
hope you learned something anyway

why is this:

mpv $(xsel -b)

working


and this:

xsel -b | mpv -

isn't?

>>60018250
because xsel -b | will copy nothing and mpv - reads nothing

solution: use xsel -bo to output what you added with xsel -bi

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Was never interested in Linux until a few days ago.
Now I'm installing Arch alongside my Win 7 installation to dual-boot. I'm probably gonna get lost in the commands but honestly, just how fucked am I? I'm thinking it can't be that bad.

Is rhel/centos actually good or is it a meme? If I'm familiar with Debian stable is there any real reason to use centos instead for a few servers?

>>60018098
didn't change anything but a reboot got it working, somehow. thanks for the help.

>>60018329
Everything is basically a meme.

>>60018273
starting with plain arch without some installer or antergos, having to set it up yourself and such, will be a slow and frustrating learning process if you insist on sticking to it, probably.
nothing wrong with playing with it for a bit before switching to something easier to learn on though
or sticking with it if you actually enjoy doing so.

>>60018329
Install Ubanto LTS

>>60018329
>good or a meme
Are you implying that a meme is something bad?

>>60018273
It's pretty easy. The documentation on the wiki can be a little vague and confusing so feel free to ask here for any problems you get. The hardest part is probably setting up partitions. I'd use gparted live usb to do it, and then just mount them from the arch iso. If you totally screw up the installation, just use an installer like Arch anywhere. Don't use antergos and manjaro though, they're garbage.

>>60018268
but if i do

xsel -b | youtube-dl -F -

it werks

>>60018382
man xsel

How can I adjust the font for mate's clock applet. Plz.

>>60018379
This post is garbage.

>>60018273
this should really be in the OP

http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/zesty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/

get the mini.iso and skip the last step of the installer (with the preselected package groups to choose from)
congrats now you have arch (without arch)

>>60015023
why is the GNU/Linux community not vocally opposing DEs written with python?

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>>60018404
>applet

>>60018273
>Was never interested in Linux until a few days ago.
>Now I'm installing Arch
>dualboot

you'll probably fuck up everything then become one of those autistics who complains about Linux in every single thread. Welcome

>>60018434
type users who'd oppose a DE written in python don't use DEs m'lord.

>>60018441
GNU/Linux*

>>60018273
I installed Arch as a beginner and it really is as simple as following the wiki and watching a few videos as reference for what certain things are supposed to look like. It also forces you to learn more about Linux in the process as opposed to something like Ubuntu where you could theoretically use it without ever opening the terminal

Now, getting a system that looks and acts the way you want will be a slow and painful process, but once you do get it, you won't want to use anything else.

>>60018390
which is better to use for .desktop file sensei

Exec=xsel -bo | mpv

or

Exec=mpv $(xsel -b) ?

>>60018477
mpv "$(xsel -bo)"

>>60018477
>to use for .desktop fil
Make it a hotkey for maximum comfyness.

What actual reason is there to use Ubuntu instead of Debian? The only advantage of Ubuntu is it's more convenient to install, because the kernel has blobs, but it's easy to use Ethernet temporarily and then add your WiFi blobs later in Debian. Ubuntu basically adds nothing over Debian, it's a cancer to the gnu/Linux community.

>>60018550
No need to be so butthurt that more faggots use Ubanto for their desktop than Plebian

>>60018550
There isn't a reason to use any server OS for a desktop PC.

>>60018432
what is this and why should I use this and not the "official" arch iso?

>>60018432
>doesnt come with a desktop enviornment=arch
killl urself my man

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is stallman a commie?

>>60018856
ofc

>>60018623
>go ubuntu.com / download / alternative downloads / network installer
will be the same as arch for you without wasting your time
after install/reboot apt-get i3-wm and apply you loli wallpapers

>>60018781
not just a de desu

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>>60018856
*Record scratch* *Freeze frame*

Yup, that’s me. You’re probably wondering how I ended up in this situation.

>>60018930
>netinst=arch
K
Y
S

>>60018856
Is it bad to be a commie these days?

Do I need to install some SECURITY software on my linux (using gnome). If so, recommend one.

>>60018990
>commie
>noting being a cummie
i'm disappoint

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>>60018978

>>60018999
Just set up iptables.

# Generated by iptables-save v1.6.1 on Sat Apr 22 19:32:20 2017
*filter
:INPUT DROP [978:236381]
:FORWARD DROP [0:0]
:OUTPUT DROP [0:0]
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -j ACCEPT
COMMIT
# Completed on Sat Apr 22 19:32:20 2017
# Generated by ip6tables-save v1.6.1 on Sat Apr 22 19:32:20 2017
*filter
:INPUT DROP [0:0]
:FORWARD DROP [0:0]
:OUTPUT DROP [0:0]
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
-A OUTPUT -j ACCEPT
COMMIT
# Completed on Sat Apr 22 19:32:20 2017

>>60018856
Left of center fag. 'Communist' by retarded american definitions.
>Vote for Jean-Luc Mélenchon for President of France. He's the only major candidate that doesn't treat big business as the master.

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>>60019034
>grandmother memes
no really though fuck you
>mfw debian is actually just arch with dpkg
>gentoo is arch but you compile everything
>void is arch with runit
>slackware is arch without dependency resolution
>crux is arch for neckbeards
>stali is arch but you update with git
>netBSD is arch without linux
>plan9 is arch with a rabbit and cirno memes
drink bleach

>>60019164
>butmad archfaggot=cancer
no really though fuck YoU

>>60019208
I dont use arch.
Go back to to the le upboat site.

>/fglt/ - babby fite edition

>>60019226
i do
go back to your pedo le site

debian 8, lxde

Everytime I login I need to start LXTerminal, open a couple of tabs and start editing files (vim). How can I automate this process?

Hey this might be a stupid question but how do I re-enable Networkmanager gui on debian? I tried to install Connman and it seems to have disabled networkmanager and it's gui and I feel like I've tried everything to restart it

>>60019281
https://wiki.lxde.org/en/Autostart

>>60019315
0. make sure your users is in the netdev group
1. stop networkmanager service
2. install nm-applet
3. start nm-applet
4. restart networkmanager

>>60019315
I can't connect to the Internet or any or my wifi routers

Is there a way to use xfce without Thunar and with a non-broken file picker?

>>60019338
I can't connect to the Internet, should have mentioned that

>>60019342
learn to use wpa_cli or reinstall networkmanager or re enable nm-applet

>>60019357
if you use wired:

ifconfig eth0 up
dhclient eth0

replace eth0 with the correct name of your network device.

>>60019342
>>60019342
clean install is the quickest and easiest solution unless you don't have /home on a separate partition or have lots of custom configs

>>60019382
I use wifi

>>60019321
appreciated

>>60017057
>there should be a free version of it
Depends on your definition of "free". Apple's definition of "free" absolutely fucking sucks and is not compatible with most distros' definition of free. It's still completely possible to install them though, and I think Arch has them in the AUR.

>windows can't be ordered by drag and drop
Literally every modern DE supports that, what the fuck are you using?

>scaling
Scaling is pretty shit on most DE's, I'll give you that.

>why is there no unified [click here to compile/install this program] solution?
Docker/Flatpak/etc etc. They're just not supported by most shitty github projects because it's not really worth it. Arch has the AUR and some other distros have an equivalent, but like I said some random github project will not likely have them.

>>60019507
>I think Arch has them in the AUR
Arch has "Sans Fransisco UI Display" available for download?

>Literally every modern DE supports that, what the fuck are you using?
I meant the windows in the window list taskbar
for example with gnome you can't do that

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waiting for an upgrade to 2gb. any recs for browsers? firefox is a big package (for me)

>>60015226
You're friend is correct, Ubuntu is the defacto distribution for careers in netsec (and Windows).

Just pick Ubuntu or Fedora and get on with your work, if you prefer deb packaging then use Ubuntu, if you prefer rpm then use Fedora. Both are backed by corporations and both have paid professionals working on them.

I take it you're interested in attending Defcon? If you are be prepared to use either Ubuntu or Windows. This is literally just because of comparability with drivers and having the same software version as everyone else, don't go thinking Ubuntu is any better than any other distribution just because it's used at Defcon and in the Netsec industry.

>>60019432

wpa_supplicant -B -i *your_interface* -c < (wpa_passphrase *networkname* *password*)
dhcpcd *your_interface*

>>60019570
firefox 10.0.12ESR
-full html5 support for 4chan shitposting
-VP8 webm support
-you can dig old versions of addons if you want them

grab it from https://ftp.mozilla.org/ and remember to disable automatic updates.

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so I have

spell() {
    case "$1" in
        cast)
            shift
            aptitude install "$@"
            ;;
        dispel)
            shift
            aptitude remove "$@"
            ;;
        *)
            return 1
            ;;
    esac
}

what could "upgrade" and "search" be?

How come all the desktop environments that aren't GNOME are so bad?

>>60019997
aside from kde they're all too new to have learned from their own mistakes and too stupid to have learned from gnomes mistakes

>>60018856
I don't hear a lot of commies advocate for total freedom of speech. He doesn't say software has to be free of cost.

>>60019997
GNOME have more people and resources

>>60019062
why are americans so obsessed with communism?

>>60020098
Because US is the bastion of capitalism.

>>60020098
doe to their history
in germany "it's the jews!!!"
in america "it's the commies!!!"
read some books my son

>>60020217
on 4chan "it's reddit!!!"

>>60020234
or the jews... or the commies...

>>60020025
Some of them, like MATE, are effectively older than GNOME3. (I know it was released later, but it is a fork of GNOME2). But it's so featureless. You can't even press the windows key to open the application menu. It has virtually no keyboard control. It's fucking useless. How do people use it?

>>60020234
/g/: fucking indians
/pol/: fucking shills
/b/: fucking normies
/v/: fucking consolefags
..and so on

Installing Linux for the first time, went with Debian stable, how do I get WiFi working?

>>60020373
get the driver and install it

>>60020373
apt-get update && apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi
modprobe -r iwlwifi; modprobe iwlwifi

>>60020373
Why aren't you reading the docs senpai.
https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi

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Hi I'm a n00b

I'm trying to install Arch in a VM because I wanted to test to set up the full-disk-encryption since the process looked a bit manual to me.

I managed to encrypt the disk with LUKS and I managed to install GRUB on it following the Arch docs.

What works is: it asks for the passphrase, I type it, and then the typical grub list shows up, where I can select to start "Arch Linux, with Linux core repo kernel". If I select this, I get the error message in the image.

I did google the error message but it looks a little generic to me. All scenarios that I find online are absolutely unrelated

Also the device he's attempting to find has another ID than the encrypted one.

I don't even know where to start debugging, to be honest. Any hints for me?

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>>60020537
this is the passphrase screen

>>60020537
>Also the device he's attempting to find has another ID than the encrypted one.
There's your problem

>>60020574
that was an error on my side though. I just realized that I mistook the sum of the passphrase dialog for a device ID. As I said, I'm a n00b, so the error is somewhere else

>>60017681

wget -r wikipedia.org

so you can read wikipedia offline

>>60018550
Ubuntu is Debian just with the support of paid professionals, you also get more up to date packages without having to resort to Debian Sid. Ubuntu also comes with apparmor configured and activated out of the box which is tricky in Debian and poorly maintained because they don't want to ship package policies.

So Ubuntu is a more up to date, more secure version of Debian.

>>60020702
>proprietary software out of the box
>more secure
pick one

>>60018856
He is not. He says somewhere in his website.
He says he is not a communist not an anarchist.

>>60020034
Things don't have to be free under communism either.

>>60018999
Apparmor/SELinux (pick whichever you prefer)

Firejail (for sandboxinf individual applications)

Set up iptables, install firewallD for a GUI

>>60020719
>He says he is not a communist not an anarchist.
nor an anarchist*

I haven't delved deep into Linux, but I've tried Ubuntu, Mint, and Antergos on various laptop and haven't had any issues except something weird like the volume keys being reversed.

I wanted to dual boot Ubuntu and Mint with Windows on the desktop I just built (first time, pretty proud), but it says something about not being able to recognize the graphics card, which is just a standard 1060.

Windows installed fine and the games run perfect so everything seems to be in order otherwise.

>>60020719
>He says he is not a communist not an anarchist.
And Google says they're not evil

>>60020719
>>60018856
Also he repeatedly makes analogies with communist regimes to explain bad things.

>>60020599
It says "no such device"
So you need to fix your grub, it's not grubbing correctly right now.

>>60020741
Why would he lie in this case?

>>60020718
Use Trisquel if you want a completely free Ubuntu, and why don't you just do a minimal Ubuntu install? Use the server image and only install the software you need.

>>60020739
Wipe Windows.

>>60020739
run

dmesg|grep nouveau

If the results say that it cannot handle that card/unknows card then you have to upgrade your kernel or install the proprietary crapware drivers.

To upgrade your kernel: search for linux-image-generic and choose the latest version available.

>>60020739
GNU/Linux*

>>60020718
Minimal Ubuntu install comes with no propietary software, unless you count wifi drivers. It is just as minimal as a Debian net install but it also comes with apparmor set up. So yes, it is a more secure system.

There is a reason private security companies use Ubuntu.

Is there a way I can install xfce without thunar? Or am I stuck with having it on my system while I use something like Dolphin instead?

>>60020806
Just remove it and set dolphin as default on "preferred software".

>>60020848
Will that not break shit? I thought it was integrated into xfce as a whole

>>60020806
you can probably compile xfce from source and not get thunar

>>60020871
I don't think so. A lot of people use others file managers.

>>60017470
alias le=sudo

>>60020958

alias le="sudo "

>>60021034
this is actually useful

>>60021049
why: https://askubuntu.com/a/22043

>>60021049

..="cd .."

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can someone explain why people don't like systemd? is it a botnet? if so, how to remove?

>>60021100
no

>>60021100
They are retarded manchildren.
Everyone that knows shit about OSs is okay with systemd. See: the only major distro that didn't adopt it was slackware(yet) because they are lazy(and manchildren).

>>60021134
Is Slackware still a major distro?

>>60021167
I didn't want to upset the neets.

>>60021199
you forgot to mention gNewSense

>>60021339
s-sorry

>>60020776
Thanks I'll try it tonight.

jack is giving me this:

>Your system has an audio group, but you are not a member of it.
Please add yourself to the audio group by executing (as root):
usermod -a -G audio (null)

how do i use this/where does the username go?

>>60021418
(null)

usermod -a -G audio anon

or if you're on debian/derivatives

adduser anon audio 

>>60020789
In the US, as far as I know, private security companies are mostly based around the most current Redhat release for data centres and Ubuntu for anything else.

>>60017919
>>60017894
>bad substitution

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I can access deluge-web locally by going to my browser and typing in
local_ip_here:port_here
and that's nice and all...

But lets say im getting horny from the waifu background on my phone while im in class and suddenly get the urge to download hentai.tentacle.nightmare.S2E12.torrent.
Uh-oh!
I'm not connected to my home wifi on my phone anymore!
So local_ip:port doesn't work anymore.

What are the steps I need to take or the keywords to google in order to connect my phone to my torrenting deluge-web machine?

>>60021738
>google
botnet, use a search engine that respects your benis

what is the best distro for gaming?

>>60021738
asking the right general is a great start!

>>60021785
install gentoo

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>>60021794
Latux

>>60021785
Arch, its for POWER USERS™.

>>60021794
well the torrent box is a linux machine so.... not very friendly

>>60021944
what you need has nothing to do with the linux kernel.

( )) ( | ) (( )

>>60021944
Indeed, configuring a computer that runs only linux is kinda spartan. Have you tried the GNU userland?

>>60021989
god LINUX people are such fags.

>>60022230
True. Thanks god I'm a GNU person.

>>60022289
GNU/person

>>60015226
You can also use Debian instead.
Ubuntu spyware is mostly a meme, it comes from a time where they had an option, disable-able but enabled by default, to use your search history for amazon recommendations. However, (and this shows the power of FOSS imo) this created quite a backlash and it has been disabled by default since.

>>60022332
Was that actually Ubuntu or just the Unity DE?

From the way I understand it, every distribution is exactly the same (just GNU/Linux) but with a different package manager?

So Ubuntu couldn't really distribute the base OS with spyware? Only the Unity desktop environment? Say if I installed a minimal Ubuntu using the server iso and then did a minimal GNOME install, would it contain any form of telemetry? Or would I just be using a GNU/Linux OS with the Ubuntu package manager?

>>60022420
Just Unity.

>From the way I understand it, every distribution is exactly the same (just GNU/Linux) but with a different package manager?
More or less that.

>So Ubuntu couldn't really distribute the base OS with spyware?
They could, see above: "more or less".

They could include spyware in other packages. As could any developer, but it's all FOSS.

>>60021976
three asses

good thread

>>60022548
Thank you, I'll go with Fedora.

>>60023324
That's not a ubuntu matter. Fedora can insert spyware as much as ubuntu.

>>60019830
install source mage

>>60023079
good post

I'm using Mint MATE 18, and I'm trying to recompile Caja, which is the file manager for MATE. After I download the source and run "./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr", and then do sudo make install, all my Caja extensions are gone after restarting Caja. Even when I build and install the same version that is currently running, which is 1.16.1.
I really don't expect anyone to know why though.

Anyone try using polybar with gnome shell?
How's it like? Any issues?

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>tfw xfce4 with i3wm

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Is gcc a botnet?

Are there any potential security risks introduced by using it?

>>60023846
mother of god
>package manager completly written in bash
this is beautiful

What is a good replacement for Unity for someone with a HiDPI display?

>>60024202
see >>60016606

>>60021785
a distribution that provide the most recent packages easily, because there are always a lot of improvement on the kernel, drivers, mesa, etc.

>can someone explain why people don't like systemd?
it does more things that it should and handle some things in a weird/stupid way.

>is it a botnet?
No, but some people might argue about systemd being too big, making the code difficult to audit and prone to bugs (that can introduce a security breach).

> if so, how to remove?
That's another problem with systemd. The way it is made make it difficult to replace.

>>60024328
source mage linux package manage is interesting

>>60024366
>That's another problem with systemd. The way it is made make it difficult to replace.
That's not a systemd problem. If developer of program XY decides to depend on systemd, it's the fault of developer of program XY.

Plot twist: Many programs depend on Linux.

>>60024405
GNU/Linux*

>>60023662
Yes I know, but Redhat have never inserted it into their distribution, and Canonical have.

>>60024414
>Plot twist: Many programs depend on Linux.
There's a difference between the kernel and another piece of software.
Ofc that's a matter of what the developers decides, but you can't deny systemd push them to take those decisions.

>>60019830
tried to make a sane translation, enjoy

# sorcery: Menu-driven interface.
alias sorcery='aptitude'

# gaze: Search for a package.
alias gaze='aptitude search'

# cast: Install a package.
alias cast='aptitude install'

# dispel: Remove a package.
alias dispel='aptitude remove'

# summon: Downloads a package.
alias summon='aptitude download'

# resurrect: install .deb packages.
alias resurrect='dpkg -i'

# cleanse: Self-healing of dependency problems.
alias cleanse='aptitude install -f'

>>60024816
How do I make some font 'X' use font 'Y' as a fallback before any other, under all circumstances, without affecting other fonts?

>>60025029
just install urxvt my son

>>60025029
didnt mean to relpy to that post

>>60025035
ANSWER ME FOR REAL PLEASE

I'm ricing up my Arch and I'm wondering: how can I set different wallpapers on dual monitors using feh? Other packages work too.

>>60025198
I just stitch them together with gimp myself, and put them in a 'wallpapers' folder.
though I dont really want alot of variation, so.

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>>60015023
The GNU/Linux ported games on /t/ is hitting page 9 with bump limit. You are still in time to pay your respects >>>/t/749768

What's a suckless GUI file manager? Preferably something gtk with barely any dependencies.

>>60025400
The only good file manager is CLI

>>60025400
pcmanfm.

>>60025421
CLI has no image previews. The only good file manager is ranger.

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>>60025449
>CLI has no image previews
Install terminology.

>>60025400
Thunar

>>60025400
Worker is on that line. If only ranger wouldn't use python.

>>60025512
thunar has xfce bloat. pcmanfm is better.

>>60025629
There is literally nothing wrong with python.

>>60025641
people on /g/ hate it for some reason.
actully, /g/ hates basically every language that isn't c, rust or haskell.

>>60025654
>rust
you wrong nigger

>>60025638
>uses a gui fm
>calls something bloat
lmao

>>60025664
I'm not a colored person.

>>60025638
+1 for pcmanfm

>>60025723
spacefm

just use coreutils and an image viewer like feh, sxiv. whatever, losers

What's the /g/ approved method of setting up fonts and font rendering on a new Arch install? The only font-related thing I've done so far is download noto-CJK, turn hinting to full, and realize that setting the subpixel order to RGB just puts annoying rainbow outlines on everything.

>>60025746
I'm not a loser.

Is linux really better for learning programming?

>>60025772
GNU/Linux*

>>60025754
Actually RGB isn't that bad.

>>60025754
I'm on arch too

>>60025772
Ironically, the Linux kernel is ideal to learn programming thanks to its system calls.

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>>60025812
The expression “the Linux kernel” can easily be misunderstood as meaning “the kernel of Linux” and implying that Linux must be more than a kernel. You can avoid the possibility of this misunderstanding by saying or writing “the kernel, Linux” or “Linux, the kernel”.

>>60025841
thank dr stalman

>>60025812
Is installing what you need for programming easy as well?

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>>60025754
- Creating an Infinality-like font configuration for Arch -
(pic related)

From a clean slate on Arch we can now create a similar font configuration to the infinality-bundle's without having to use the patched packages. It is now possible to easily get great-looking results with the default interpreter.

1. Create the following symlinks to instruct freetype2 to use good-looking rendering defaults
sudo ln -s /etc/fonts/conf.avail/11-lcdfilter-default.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d
sudo ln -s /etc/fonts/conf.avail/10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d

2. Modify (or create) /etc/fonts/local.conf to contain these contents: https://pastebin.com/rnDtdzt5

3. At this point your fonts should look pretty good and this is a fine place to stop. BUT we can do even better by making sure that we have all fonts on the system that were defined as substitutions earlier. To do this we need to install the packages fonts-meta-extended-lt and fonts-meta-base from the AUR which will build the rest of the fonts required.

After having done all this, restarting the X-server by logging out and back in should apply all changes.

-Screenshots-
Linux - Wikipedia: http://i.imgur.com/SM1gH6p.png
Github - http://i.imgur.com/P6ZFvJn.png
Arch website - http://i.imgur.com/NgXzDTA.png

>>60025861
distros already come with lots of interpreters like perl, python, compilers preinstalled. Other languages are just one command away.

>>60025861
You are joking right? That must like reason nº1 for programmers to install GNU/Linux.

>>60025772
much better than windows. probably a bit easier than Mac as well, because brew suck balls and installing libraries etc with your package manger is easier.

>>60025870
thanks, I think i'll replace the freetype2-infinality aur package with this.

can anyone tell me the bash version that comes with macos?

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>>60025861
Hello newfriend, legit you must be so virgin to the whole thing if you ask this

>>60025923

3.2

https://developer.apple.com/legacy/library/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/bash.1.html

What is a standard set of use flags for a new gentoo install?

>>60025963
Thanks buddy

>>60025884
>>60025934
no bully please
I figure if I'm going to learn programming I might as well learn Linux as well

>>60025973
Good question, I am not sure many gentoomen lurk around to answer, as /fglt/ often use the easier, binary based distros.

>>60026003
Language? Hopefully you answer C anyway

New thread:
>>60026032
>>60026032
>>60026032

>>60026026
Yes C probably

>>60025923
Easy: The latest version that comes with GPLv2.
That's why macOS comes with lots of many years old outdates tools.

Based GPLv3 strikes again.

>>60026043
explains why many macfags switch to zsh

>>60026090
Why? They could aswell just upgrade bash.

>>60026042
READ THESE FIRST

How to read code
>http://worrydream.com/LearnableProgramming/

How to think programming
>https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/2qznse/i_need_serious_help_learn_to_program_was_my_new/cnb1luk

Understand abstraction
>http://worrydream.com/LadderOfAbstraction/


TOOLS (the GCC guide is GOAT)

Install Atom Text Editor In Ubuntu Via PPA [32bit + 64bit]
>http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install-atom-text-editor-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.html
Also add "minimap", "neon-syntax", "neon-selection", and "neon-cursor" from
Edit -> Preferences -> Install

GCC and Make - A Tutorial on how to compile, link and build C/C++ applications
>https://www3.ntu.edu.sg/home/ehchua/programming/cpp/gcc_make.html


C GUIDES

How to Think Like a Computer Scientist
>http://greenteapress.com/thinkcpp/index.html

C Tutorial - Learn C - Cprogramming.com
>http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial/c-tutorial.html

Learn C The Hard Way A Clear & Direct Introduction To Modern C Programming
>http://c.learncodethehardway.org/book/

>Introduction to Computer Programming, Part 1 - FREE COMPLETE COURSE
https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-computer-programming-part-1-iitbombayx-cs101-1x


EXAMPLES

FizzBuzz - Rosetta Code
>http://rosettacode.org/wiki/FizzBuzz

Algorithm Implementation - Wikibooks, open books for an open world
>https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Algorithm_Implementation


PRACTICE

C/C++ Programming Practice Problems - Cprogramming.com
>http://www.cprogramming.com/challenge.html

Project Euler
>https://projecteuler.net/


C FAQ

C - For Dummies
>http://www.dummies.com/how-to/computers-software/programming/c.html

C Frequently Asked Questions
>http://c-faq.com/


To note, you might want to learn a bit of bash. Just a bit.

>>60026043
Based GPLv3 is based

>>60026110
thanks

>>60026126
no problemo

>>60026105
i just think, they are faced with an old version, shit doesnt work like it should, so they think bash is trash and install zsh instead

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>>60026110
>http://worrydream.com/LearnableProgramming/
>author uses "she" all across the text

>>60026234
stay mad memelord

>>60026278
stay meme madlord

>>60026234
sed -i 's/she/he/i'

>>60026234
what did she mean by this?

What's the absolute best reason to switch from Windows 10 to Linux?