Do the fuckers behind this think they're doing a good thing?

They lost when they made ads obnoxious

All those site can go and get fucked

I have never disabled my ad blocker because a website asked me and I never will

I don't give a shit.
If advertisers want a war I'll fucking give them one.

marketers can get fucked, scummiest people on the planet.

>>59964712
There's a whole one site that I see ads on: nyaa, and that's for a simple reason: they host them directly themselves, not linked through external third parties, so I don't care to block them.

uCucks BTFO

>>59964783
I'd leave ads on everywhere if sites curated them like that. Google would crash and burn in such a world as well

https://adnauseam.io/

>>59964712
A feeble attempt against users with adblock in an endless arms race that they will never win

>>59964801
>false flag made by Google to increase their ad clicks and trick more advertisers to join their platform
no thanks

>>59964766
this

>>59964874
Do you have proof for your claims.

>>59964885
do you have proof it harms advertisers/google?

i've worked for a few years as an producer for several print magazines and marketers went nuts with "special ads" - gate covers, folders, wraps, shrinkwraps, pop ups, (fake) post its, centerfolds - the list is endless. i've seen magazines wrapped in so much bullshit, you have to pass 8 pages to get to the cover. and advertisers pay top dollar to make that happen.

now this people discovered online, that's why we went from "hi, i'm a static image, maybe a gif on the top right corner, if you want to, click me" to "FUCK YOU I'M A FULL SCREEN ANIMATED AD WITH SOUND YOU BARLEY CAN'T CLICK AWAY EATING UP 2GB OF YOUR RAM AND MAKE YOUR FANS GO CRAZY".

commercialized/advertized internet is their endgame, they are too stupid and too old to understand, that everyone hates this shit and that they are abandoning ad heavy sites.

>>59964897
Nuh uh, you provide your proof first.

>>59964922
right, so we're back to square one. Not using it

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>>59964945
>its a google false flag
>the burden of proof is on you even though I'm the one speculating wildly
>prove me wrong, m'lady

>>59964992
who are you quoting?

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>>59964712
>me in 2007
poor lads, that amount of quality content deserves my visits. I love RSS, and getting in touch with news and blogs

>me in 2017
fuck those clickbait faggots, shilling every product they get paid to review. they have destroyed RSS, and they provide zero value to the internet

The natural progression are in-text ads. Imagine reading an article only to come upon a paragraph selling you cutlery. Content creators already employ runtime ads. It's the next step. Fuck ads.

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I disable uBlock on sites that I enjoy and don't find the ads obnoxious on. I use adblock because I grew sick of websites with no dignity harassing me with obnoxious ads, if they want to harass me to disable adblock I'll just close the tab.

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You can hate all you want

but when the site owners sees a check for 10k+ at the end of the month, it's an easy decision.

btw you autists aren't the target of ads anyway since you don't have any money to buy stuff.

>>59964712

ahahhgsahsgahhhashGGHHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAGShahhHHH

>>59965305
Every normie who asks me to look at or fix anything on their computer gets UBO + filterlists + Reek's installed.

The more we spread ad-blocking to the masses the more times we can cut that $10k check in half. I savored the delicious tears of the first ones to feel the pinch, youtubers.

>>59965867
>The more we spread ad-blocking to the masses

the more you spread it to the masses the more drastic the publishers will retaliate with all kind of measures as more and more of their audience use adblocking scripts.

so you are just cutting off your nose to spite your own face.

>>59965892
If you're in an arms race that your opponent can't win, the proper response is to escalate as hard and as fast as you can. Advertisers can't win. At the end of the day, the user is in control of the browser, and they have the further disadvantage that truth-in-advertising laws require them to disclose sponsored content. Remember how Facebook made a big deal of their new "unblockable" ads that were being effectively blocked within a day or two? That's because they had to include the word "sponsored" in each one of those posts, which makes them easy to find programmatically.

I remember about a decade ago I didn't care about ad blockers. Most sites that I visited would have pretty unintrusive shit so I wouldn't care much.

But today ad-blocking is a necessity. Very basic websites that do not have to do anything with pirated shit or porn have ads that ruin the experience of using the web. Specially when they track your interests, because it becomes creepy.

>>59965939
>If you're in an arms race that your opponent can't win, the proper response is to escalate as hard and as fast as you can.

except your opponent CAN win.

>At the end of the day, the user is in control of the browser,

literally the same thing was said to the movie publishers. the users control the TV and the media players in their home.

and yet the hollywood publishers have won that battle and more.

get rekt

>>59965965
actually not, someone made a platform where that shit wasn't there, and users flocked to it in huge droves (netflix)

>>59965965

A computer and web browser is not the same thing as a locked-down set-top box. A better analogy would be how the movie industry has failed to stamp out piracy.

>>59965983

and netflix gives even more control to the publishers than even they could imagine.

So I guess it's a victory if you are a homosexual who enjoys getting your shit pushed in.

>>59965988
>A better analogy would be how the movie industry has failed to stamp out piracy.

haha oh wow

demonoid = dead
YIFY = dead
piratebay = half dead
EZTV = dead

the field is littered with the corpses of pirates.

>muh private trackers

haha enjoy your pay2pirate exclusive piracy club with 100 members while the hollywood publishers count their money.

>>59964712
>how much website income are you losing?
Zero because I don't fucking serve cancer ads like some kind of cheap whore.

>>59966025
because it moved on from torrents to streaming. Over a decade ago you'd be talking about how Napster and Kazaa and Limewire were all dead and the music/movie industry had won.

>>59964740
This, website owners should be happy we even visit their shitholes.

And its also the fact that its not just malvertising, they also try to shove 392847 JS scripts that only perform "analytical" and tracking bullshit.

As always, the industry needs to get the fucking stick until they fucking drop this shit.

>>59965305
that dog is badass

>>59964800
I find Google ads to be the most tolerable. The worst ads don't come from Google, but some strange-ass ad contractors, leading to surprise-fullscreen ads

>>59965867
>Have a system where the majority of ignorant and lazy people are paying for the content while most just have ads and those with adblock get it for free absolutely
>Children cry
>Convince everyone to get adblock
>Service providers start focusing on developing for phones, developing pay-to-view content and decrease freedoms at every turn
>Children cry
>"We'll block all the ads! That will show them!"
>Nope. You're blocked.
>Children cry
Really makes me think

Why is AdBlock even detected? Can't it trick the website that all its JS bullshit is running fine (in a sandbox for example) while not showing shit locally to the user?

>>59966078
>we have to appease them, and put up with their shit, or else they might do something worse!
That's never been a good argument in any dispute.

>>59966101
JS can, by default enumerate addons. They can also play tricks like checking (again through JS) if some space where an ad was supposed to load has an ad in it, or the like. Killing JS stops every last one of these dead, but they're all work-aroundable pretty easily even with JS enabled, it just needs an update to ad blocker's filters saying "Make a function called isAdDisplayed (or whatever) into a nop that always returns true"

>>59966047
>because it moved on from torrents to streaming.

streaming isn't pirating you mong. if you can't keep up with the conversation don't say something stupid.

>>59966150
Popcorn Time, a bazillion Kodi addons, whatever else the kids are using these days, I haven't kept up since that's not how I consume my media. But no, a lot of piracy is streaming now.

>>59966119
>Make a function called isAdDisplayed (or whatever) into a nop that always returns true
That measure would have to be custom crafted for every website.

>>59964712
Why are you so triggered by this may I ask?

It seems like ads are hitting critical mass for the second time in Internet history. In the early 2000s ads were fucking everywhere, constant, in your face, bright, flashing, obnoxious and chained together into some kind of inescapable hell. Then suddenly, it stopped... for years it seemed like ads went down to a tolerable level. But for the past few years ads having been ramping up more and more, getting increasingly obnoxious and invasive. The layover is the pop-up 2.0, and they're reaching levels of late 90s insanity again.

Why did advertisers move away from obnoxious/intrusive ads in the early 2000s? And more importantly, why are they moving back to the old model after having abandoned it for the last decade?

I prefer the nuclear option. Switch from uBlock/Adblock to AdNauseam.

> https://adnauseam.io

The solution to the ridiculous ads out there is to "click" all of them.

>>59966174
a.) not really. More like every ad exchange or adblock-blocker. And while there are a lot of those, there aren't nearly as many of them as there are websites.
b.) they already keep really huge lists with tens of thousands of filtered domains and regexes.

>>59965867
>fixing other people's computers
>for free
Get a load of this guy.

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>>59966196

> I don't like ads
> I hate the ad industry
> Therefore I will install an extension that will click every ad I come across for me, which will put money in the pockets of the ad industry that I hate

Fucking brilliant m8

>>59964712
>rent ad space
>sublet my rented ad space to shady af advertiser
>shady advertiser infects their ads with ransomware
>split ransoms 50/50 with shady advertiser with my clean hands
>????

ezpz thanks normies

>>59966192
One, the when the dot-com bubble burst the money train stopped. Two, that's about when pop-up blockers started seeing general use among web surfers.

>>59966171
>Popcorn Time

le special pirate club

>a bazillion Kodi addons

le no support open source DIY box with 0.1% uptake

>But no, a lot of piracy is streaming now.

it isn't, though.

>>59966215
The target is the companies doing the advertising. If they find out that 99/100 of the clicks they're paying lots of money for is fraudulent, they're liable to stop paying, thinking that web advertising just isn't worth the money. When they stop paying, the ad industry's revenue source goes away.

people who use adblock are essentially thieves. you're consuming content for free and not supporting the people who worked hard to make that content.

>>59966192
>And more importantly, why are they moving back to the old model after having abandoned it for the last decade?

because $$$$$

online ads is a 100B+ industry

even if you capture 0.1% of this, congrats you have 100million buckaroos

people are desperate for that sweet dough

>>59966237

You're still installing an extension that is expressly designed to provide ad revenue to shitty advertisers.

>>59966237
No, they'll just switch to affiliate payout schemes instead of pay-per-click.

>>59966196
>TrackMeNot
>issuing randomized queries to common search-engines, TrackMeNot obfuscates your search profile
Wow, this is also brilliant.

>>59966218
But advertisers don't even try to do pop-ups anymore, do they? They're aware of how frusterated that makes potential customers, right? So why move back to a model that's proven to fail?

The dot com bubble burst because it was overvalued, and it was overvalued because advertisers and investors seemed to think that the digital equivalent of running up to someone and screaming in their face was an effective way of doing marketing.

Is this kind of ultra-desperate marketing strategy indicative of a second .com collapse? God I hope so.

>>59966231
Every normie I talk to about piracy immediately mentions popcorn time.

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>>59966231
>if I put "le" before a statement I refute it
wew lad

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>>59964740
ads were obnoxious at day 0

>>59966215
I have it, i don't see ads and the advertisers are happy. Win Win

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Antivirus software protects you against malicious attacks that were released two weeks ago.

Adblock protects you against malicious attacks that were released ten seconds ago.

Fuck advertisers.

>>59966296
>They're aware of how frusterated that makes potential customers, right?

they don't care. pop-ups just don't work. they are associated with 'intrusive ads' even to casual users.

> So why move back to a model that's proven to fail?

because it works

>Is this kind of ultra-desperate marketing strategy indicative of a second .com collapse? God I hope so.

are you bitter that other people are making money hand over fist?

>>59966296
Marketers drink their own kool-aid is what goes on. They delude themselves into thinking that advertising is a good thing that people appreciate, because marketing naturally attracts extroverted, optimistic, enthusiastic people, and its what they spend all day doing.

If your (well-paid) job was to strangle kittens, after a few years you'd be talking about how important it was that kittens get strangled, and how it served a vital role in the economy, etc etc. People don't like the cognitive dissonance of realizing they do something shitty for a living.

>>59964712
Websites that use this don't get visited again, it's that simple. They don't get to use my bandwidth to display their bullshit partner products.

If your content is worthwhile then I'd consider paying, but forced ads instantly tell me the type of character they are.

>>59966319

>Every normie I talk to about piracy

normies use netflix so these 'normies' you talk to aren't normies at all

>>59966382

This is exactly right.

Why the fuck else would advertisers think that consumers want to do shit like "view ads to stay connected with their favorite products and services"?

>>59966382
My economics professor went on a huge rant about how marketing ruins everything and it is essentially an attempt to introduce information asymmetry into the market, which leads to all sorts of non-optimal consequences. It was hilarious because there were a ton of marketing majors in the class.

I just do sponsored content that looks like real content. And self hosted ads.

It seems to work pretty well.

>>59964792
uBlock Origin already has a filter that blocks the script. Get cucked, Schlomo.

>>59966231
>streaming is not piracy
is this bait?
you know that its literally the same as downloading it, just in shitty quality

Why do website owners expect to be compensated for their hobby? People used to pay for web servers when they were very expensive and not run ads because the owners themselves wanted to host the content, today hosting is dirt cheap and there's tons of free services as well, why are they trying to buck the cost onto the readers when in reality its their decision to host the content. This mentality is on par with someone paying to see your twitter posts or your family photos. If you want to host the content then you pay to host it, get a real job.

>>59966502
>no source

>>59966525

>you know that its literally the same as downloading it, just in shitty quality

piracy is unauthorised use of media

streaming is playing it as you receive it

they are orthogonal concepts

are you stupid?

Soon your browser will get a Google addon, that will automatically deduct 0.02 cents from your bank account when you visit a website.

>>59966548

Downloading and "streaming" are the exact same thing from the technical point of view. The only difference is with streaming you save the file to a temp folder somewhere and only access it one time before the browser deletes it for you, instead of saving to your Documents or whatever and viewing the file as many times as you want.

I don't know the difference in terms of legality, nor do I care about that anyways.

>>59964712

income and losing are so badly used, triggered accountant

>>59966502
>What is Anti-Adblock Killer
Kill yourself, jew.

>>59966604

Meant for >>59966546

>>59966245
get an actual business model like paid accounts then, you fucking mong

sites with advertisers are beggars that dont just sit around with a cup but harass everyone until they pay

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>>59966245

>Blocking me from blocking content is stealing
>IRONIC POST BEGINS HERE
If i spend a lot of time clicking on your content, i generate click money. yet i get no compensation for my hard work. why should you get all the money, when i'm the one doing the hard work.
>IRONIC POST ENDS HERE
>This is the reversed mindset of bad content creators

all bad products/services are ad-supported. if the product/service was any good in the first place, people would pay for and render the need of ads useless in the first place.
>ads are life support for bad content/creations
>only untalented creators make bad content
>stop making bad content, and you don't need ads

>>59966583
>Downloading and "streaming" are the exact same thing from the technical point of view.

nice goalpost-moving

it was piracy vs streaming and now its downloading vs streaming

try again

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>>59966727
Get off my website if you think my content is bad and don't want to see my shit.

If they had sane ads instead of malware, I might be inclined to disable adblocking on a per-site basis.

>>59966755
If you only want people who're paying to see your content, there's a way to do that. It's called a paywall. Set up a login form and only allow users who send you money to log in. It works for the Wall Street Journal.

Unless you think nobody is willing to actually fork over cash for your content. Then you have a problem, your business is fundamentally unviable, it's just being papered over by ad money. Like when VCs fund a company that never makes a profit, and the company lasts only as long as the VC's gullibility.

>>59964712
Blocking the script fixes this instantly. No need to bother with fucking around with anything else. 9/10 times sites that do this are not really worth your time to begin with. It's a nothing of value was lost if they go under.

>>59966798
That's impossible because then Google won't rank you.

>>59966814
Well that's your problem, not mine, now isn't it.

>>59964712
>ads are one of the main vectors for malware, even on non "shady" sites, just in case there are any Common Sense 2017 shills here
>when my computer gets infected with some ransomware trash I lose things of measurable value
>besides the fact that it's pretty difficult to find out what website displayed the infected ad, they're not responsible anyways, because they didn't host that shit themselves
>the ad network isn't responsible either
>the ad provider is almost impossible to find now, might not even be responsible, but a victim as well
>because I turned off my adblocker I now have a monetary loss and nobody to sue

when the websites that profit from the ads start taking responsibility for malware I'll consider turning off my adblocker
then again if they can be sued for malicious ads they might host the ads themselves and then the adblocker won't detect them anyways.

>>59966847
>>when my computer gets infected with some ransomware trash I lose things of measurable value

if they are no valuable why did you not have backups?

>>59966798
>good content is protected by paywalls
>shit content is protected by ads
imagine what would happen if pewdiepie put up a paywall for his content. he'd realize pretty fast that his autistic rants aren't amusing enough for people to pay for.

i'm definitely for paying for quality content, but ads only give incentive to make content that is "good enough"
>we don't need is not an financial solution
>we need an creative revolution

>>59966838
I'm not the one posting all kinds of retarded theories to justify ad blockers.
It's pretty retarded to judge the quality by the content by the fact that the website has ads.

>>59966868
*quality of the content

>pls disable adblock

Okay I gu...

>page hijackers, redirectors, popunders, you just won, hornymilf39 wants to fuck, jlist

On second thought, no.

>>59966866
>imagine what would happen if pewdiepie put up a paywall for his content. he'd realize pretty fast that his autistic rants aren't amusing enough for people to pay for.

which is why he doesn't and rake in 10M+ per year

your assertion is as stupid as saying "hurr if google charges $1 per search nobody would use them" no shit sherlocke

>>59966861
why is it my fault you drove over my caltrops with your car? don't you carry a replacement tire?
seriously though, backups cost time, and usually at least a few hours, if not days or weeks of work aren't on that backup. even with a recent backup it still takes a few hours to restore everything back to a working state and these hours could be spent better

>>59966889
>why is it my fault you drove over my caltrops with your car?

this depends on the circumstance it might not be your fault at all.

so this strawman dies before dawn

>backups cost time, and usually at least a few hours, if not days or weeks of work aren't on that backup. even with a recent backup it still takes a few hours to restore everything back to a working state and these hours could be spent better

then clearly whatever you lost weren't even worth 'a few hours' so nothing of value was lost so stop crying about it

>>59966884
but that's just ad money and doesn't mean anything. how much money do you think he'd make if he didn't have ads to rely on?

These days bloggers ask like 500 dollars for sponsored content.

Ads are literally becoming the content due to adblockers.

>>59966908
why would whatever is lost not be worth a few hours?
do you make full disk backups every 5 minutes?
also time is valuable too, and I'm not going to risk wasting any of it because of ads that provide nothing of value to me

>>59966912
>how much money do you think he'd make if he didn't have ads to rely on?

how much money would bill gates have if he didn't found microsoft?

what kind of stupid question is that? what are you trying to imply? why would answering this stupid question help anyone in anyway to reason about anything?

>>59964712
It's a pretty deep question, just how much are you getting paid for displaying one advert?

How many pageviews does this need to be viable?

>>59966926
To add: sometimes I ask websites if I can guest post. And then they send entire price lists back.

I read it's especially rampant in my niche.

>>59966935
>why would whatever is lost not be worth a few hours?

because if it was then you would have spend a few hours to make sure it could not be lost you stupid mong

>>59966963
>I read it's especially rampant in my niche.

which is?

>>59966976
Travel

>>59966970
so spending three hours working on something makes that something worth 0 hours, but if i spend x hours creating a backup of it it's worth exactly those x hours?
do you make backups every hour while working?
Also there are enough pieces of malware that can fuck up a windows installation so hard you need to wipe it
wether you reinstall or clone from a full disk backup, that takes an hour or possibly longer.
If your time is not worthless that's a loss that could have been prevented by not throwing those 0.2 cents into that digital paper cup by disabling your adblocker.

>>59966958
i'm implying that bill gates made products that people where willing to buy. ads is only used buy those who lack talent & skill

>>59967119
Have you seen the future of the web yet?

http://www.nomadicmatt.com

>>59964712
It's easy to block adblock, just run the ads through your servers and make them look like regular picture/videos.

>>59967029
>so spending three hours working on something makes that something worth 0 hours, but if i spend x hours creating a backup of it it's worth exactly those x hours?

what is reading comprehension?

>do you make backups every hour while working?

I have a cronjob that backup my data every hour, yes

>Also there are enough pieces of malware that can fuck up a windows installation so hard you need to wipe it

this is completely irrelevant to the point at hand

>wether you reinstall or clone from a full disk backup, that takes an hour or possibly longer.

yes but if you back up you will have your data in a situation where you will have to spend hours in either case anyway

>If your time is not worthless that's a loss that could have been prevented by not throwing those 0.2 cents into that digital paper cup by disabling your adblocker.

hint: the two are not mutually exclusive

do you even know anything about computers at all?

>>59967119

so the people who made google search lack talent and skill?

>>59965965
explain netflix and amazon, then
hollywood will be a ghost town within 20 years

>>59967191
>explain netflix and amazon, then

so making a few tv series here and there = hollywood being a ghosttown?

how stupid are you?

>>59967211
how old is hollywood, and how old is netflix

>>59964712
normies wont. they use whatever others use and most of them arent using adblock anyway

>>59967240

how relevant is this?

>>59966119
>disable js
they know about that too. you cant even see text content if js is disabled.

>>59964997
Not the same dude, nor do I usually post anything, but I just had to say that you're horrendous at arguing.

Just an unrelated jab, but, I hate reading all of your posts. I don't have any opinion on this matter but the way you all seem to articulate, or rather, lack thereof, is painful and brings me straight to the groanzone.

>>59966388
>implying that normies would stop going to their social media sites instead of disabling the adblocker
they are too addicted to their facebooks and other dumb sites to do that.

>>59966889
not only time but it will at least double your storage costs.

>>59966861
>His time has no value.
How's NEETlife working out for you?

What kind of ads are bearable than? It is kinda saddening that website owners get really low ad revenue because of adblockers. I also hate super clickbaits and popup ads but there are also some websites which just have ads on side, so please share ideas of bearable ads

>>59966467
I'm surprised that an economics professors is right about something.

>>59965289

This literally already happens. Summer fucking New York Times article I was reading had this shit.

>>59967548
Advertising is inherently adversarial. The advertiser's goal is to distract you from what you want to pay attention to, and then fool you into spending money you otherwise would not spend. There's no such thing as acceptable advertising.

>>59967185
not in the beginning, but now days google sucks, and everybody knows it. they don't censor & manipulate the internet because they oppose free speech, they do it because they need keep the advertising companies happy.

it's hard to promote friendly-family-fun products in an environment that isn't sanitized from political incorrectness, sexual content & "hate speech".

the end of a free internet began with the advertisers demanding a "safe space" for their services.

I block ads myself even though I make money through ads on youtube. Everyone can get fucked, it's only exposing your PC to risks not to disable them and I thank the suckers who are too stupid to block them.

>>59967393
>Not the same dude, nor do I usually post anything
lyl

If you, as the content hoster, host abusive ads, I won't feel bad about blocking them. Not even if it costs you money.
Criteria of abusive advertising:
>Ads take up more screen area than your content.
Easily measured using the developer tools to inspect the elements and the innermost divs which contain them.
>I can easily hear my CPU fan speed up when I disable my ad/script blocker on your site.
You're not gonna buy me a new CPU fan, so who are you to wear it out?
>The CPU time used by the browser increases in a proportion greater that of the browser's entire usage before disabling ad/script blocking on your site.
You don't get to slow down my PC more than every other site I'm on combined.
>The counter on the script/ad blocker increases to 99+ on your website.
You've successfully JUSTed yourself with 3rd party content that you're not responsible or accountable for.
>Ads play sound without me interacting with them beforehand.
>Ads play sound without being clicked, simply moused over.
Both of these are just abusive in every sense of the word.
>Ads have fake `close` buttons.
There have been attempts to illegalize this.
>`Video` ads that cannot be closed.
Actual video or flash content that won't go away.
>Ads that change size or shape when moused over.
>Ads which overlay actual content at any time, for any reason, by any means.
You literally value the ads more than your own content by covering it.
>Ads/scripts which open a new tab or window or redirect the browser to a new webpage, when NOT clicked on directly.
This is a big one on hentai sites. You click on ANY part of the site and it's overlaid by a huge transparent div that encompasses the entire page. This is called clickjacking. FUCK YOU.

>>59966861
>Doubling our storage expenses for your benefit because you can't be accountable for code executed on your own site.
"I shouldn't have to be responsible for not infecting your PC and not destroying your data. You should be responsible for keeping content I host of my own accord for my own gain from doing it."

>>59967176
i think we're missing each other's point here.

my point
>even with a backup, getting malware from an ad costs time

and malware being able to fuck your windows installation to a point where you have to reinstall or restore from backup IS relevant

>>59967176
>yes but if you back up you will have your data in a situation where you will have to spend hours in either case anyway
Or you could not serve your retarded ads that caused it in a first place.

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>>59964885

>>59964783
I block even those. My browser, my rules.

>>59964712
>visit their site
>"yea we block here too"
>block that overlay
>just werks

I know a tech news site that have no ads, but if you use an ad blocker, there is a pop-up that say roughly:
"Our system detected that you use an ad blocker. Congratulations! We encourage you to blocks ads everywhere. Don't give out!"

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>>59968235

>>59965867
>Every normie who asks me to look at or fix anything on their computer gets UBO + filterlists + Reek's installed.
I do this.

>>59967532

>projecting this hard
>failing at reading comprehension and logic

>>59964712
>website income
maybe you should make websites out of passion, not for profit
xD

>>59967873

>implying some random site is the only threat to your data
>implying they are even a threat

there should be a required reading list before you are allowed to post on /g/

>>59968392
If you have or want a job and a family then you don't have time for meme passions like making guides online.

>>59967952
>>even with a backup, getting malware from an ad costs time

without backup, getting malware costs even MORE time. so stop whining about losing your data when either if your data is valuable then you have backup or your data is not valuable so stop whining about losing it.

either or there's no 'retard's middle' for you

>>59968408
then don't

>>59968040

or I could do it and get 100k+ per year for it which i can use to feed my family and pay my bills and make my boss happy

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>>59968418
And it would be totally my fault for losing my work and having to restore backups, not yours.
Or you could get rid of your malware ads and get 200k+ per year.

>>59968453
>Or you could get rid of your malware ads and get 200k+ per year.

if i could i would have already done it

>>59968408
Why make a website then and force people to give you money?

Whatever happened to finding a whole in the market and exploiting it? Providing people with what they want or need and earning money there?

No one wants to see ads. There's no market for it. Can big companies stop with their abuse already, this is torture

>>59968560
>No one wants to see ads. There's no market for it.

demonstrably false

there's a 100BILLION a year market for it

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>>59968413
Thief is the one who goes to jail if he got caught stealing from a house with a door left wide open, not owner.
>Well, should've locked your door if you got something valuable!
>Well, you got nothing of value if you left your door open like that.

>>59968567
Yeah, because we're forced into it. It's not what anyone wants or needs.

Big corporations, stop bully pls.

>>59968643

nobody is even talking about legal liability you mong

>>59968653
>It's not what anyone wants or needs.

people want to go on the internet so they do want it.

>>59966025
>EZTV = dead
Sheit, really? it worked a month ago.

>>59965867
Haha yeah fuck those assholes for providing us with free content.

>>59968722

that's a fake one the original died long ago

>>59968701
Yeah, to look at cat memes, not ads. They just like cat memes so much they're not willing to leave the internet even while being bullied by big corporations. That's exploitation.

>>59968738
>Yeah, to look at cat memes, not ads.

and who pays the server cost of delivering cat memes?

> even while being bullied by big corporations

lol wat

>That's exploitation.

go home socialist.

>>59964712
This shit is pointless. All it will do is make someone take 5 seconds to find a site that isn't blocked instead

>>59968683
Yeah, that would be ridiculous if we fined people for putting malicious ads on sites.
>>59966889
>why is it my fault you drove over my caltrops with your car? don't you carry a replacement tire?

>>59968769
>go home socialist.
I am home, where do you think I'm shitposting from. I'm not going to go out

We're being exploited like old heroin addicts sucking off cocks for a bit of heroin and you know it.

>>59968793
I hope it becomes just as widespread as adblockers.

>>59968413
are you drunk? backups are good. yes. you understand that, like everyone else does
having to use that backup because you were infected when that infection could have been prevented is bad. baad.

so you should use an adblocker too because wether you have a backup or not, getting malware from ads sucks and can be easily prevented

>>59968806
You don't have to click on ads. And you don't have to visit website with ads.

If you want to use a website the least you can do in return is allow it to sustain itself.

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>>59964748
*cracks knuckles

>>59964712
If google webstore does not lie then there are about 224k AdBlock users, 130k AdBlock Plus users and 12k uBlock origin users. I don't know the numbers on FireFox but it can't be more then on Chrome since FF is less popular. So it's may be 500k-800k people who use ad blockers. It's less then 1% of internet users. I don't see why they are bitching so much about ad blockers.

>>59968797

>same old strawman

>no attempt at understanding opposing position

this is going nowhere

>>59968806

why don't you start an ad-less cat meme website then?

>>59968846
That does seem a bit low, it seems like everyone I know uses an adblocker.

>>59968846
The numbers analytics software of websites give are quite different. And the numbers go from 8% to 55% depending on the niche.

Especially tech websites focussed on young white males tend to suffer from adblockers.

>>59964792
The ublock origin and uMatrix combo is perfect. Also I've never been to a site that told me to turn it off. Plus this is targeting Adblock not ublock FUCK BOY hahhahhahaahahahhahaha

>>59968904
That's also one of the reasons why so many websites like to focus on mobile first. Because they have a fairly high click through rate while adblockers are rarely used on mobile phones.

>>59968873
I don't personally like cat memes myself, I was just using them as an example. I'm not going to make a website for the sake of making a website. If you have any better ideas, hmu though

>>59968840
>allow it to sustain itself.
Nah. Not interested.

>>59966231
>Piracy is dead except for where it isn't dead but I said "le" so I win

neck yourself

>>59968813
Why? So you can get 25 cent adsense checks instead of 5 cents?

>>59964874
>false flag by google
>deleted from google store by google

>>59968958
To make adblocking less viable.

But my website actually doesn't use javascript ads. And adblockers haven't picked up on my shit yet.

>>59968989
that's how you know it's a good false flag

>>59968813
And then someone will make an anti-anti-anti-adblocker. At the end of the day, the law is on the consumer's side. Ad publishers HAVE to state that an advertisement is an advertisement. As long as this is true, adblockers will win.

When they start going after the law is when we need to be worried

>>59968282
>>59964712

That shit doesn't even pop-up with no-script on.

>>59968819
>having to use that backup because you were infected when that infection could have been prevented is bad. baad.


lol no

unless you're retarded recovering form a backup takes 10 mins

>>59966215
>click every ad I come across for me, which will put money in the pockets of the ad industry that I hate

You've got to look ahead a few chess moves.

Yes, it will temporarily increase revenues -- until the advertisers start realizing that their ads aren't effective anymore.

Once the advertisers learn that web ads aren't effective anymore, they will pull out, causing the web ad industry to start collapsing.

Notice that I said "start collapsing". Once the collapse is imminent, they will completely redesign the ad industry around the single goal of defeating ad blockers. This can be done at the corporate level -- the ad industry can simply purchase and run the content web sites themselves. That will eliminate the "distrustful vendor/customer" relationship that current exists between the advertisers and the publishers -- allowing the ads to be served directly from the same web site that hosts the content. Ad blocking only works because it's relatively easy to block a domain -- but once that blacklist doesn't work anymore, it will require sophisticated AI to try to tell the difference between ads and content. That AI will be impossible to get right, because the advertisers have an infinite supply of cleverness in disguising the ads and making them seamlessly indistinguishable from the content.

The ad domain blacklist is a temporary solution. It will go away in a few years, to be replaced by the final (and inevitable) solution -- a total merging of ads and content at the technology level, plus a total merging of the ad and content businesses at the corporate level.

>>59968950
>I don't personally like cat memes myself,

so you are just another socialist SJW who makes up other people's problem so you could complain about it

>>59964766
/thread

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>>59968958
1) This shit gets widespread
2) People stop using those sites because:
2a) They block AdBlocker
2b) They have shit ads (for people who don't have or disabled AdBlocker)
3) No people to visit site means less money
4) ??????
5) PROFIT

>>59969051
>who makes up other people's problem
No, what's applicable in cat meme domain is applicable for any other topic on the internet, that was just an analogy.

It is the problem of all of us. I'm on your side, buddy, calm down.

>>59969080

>autism paradise

meanwhile back on earth

>>59969098

no you are not. you are clearly a rabid socialist that needs to be put down.

the only ads I ever had a real problem with are pop-ups and video ads, and I don't really encounter those these days, so I don't use ad blockers
so I don't really care

>Please whitelist our website on your adblocker so we can cram a bunch of malicious ads, popups and viruses down your throat.
Yeah, sure. Or...or I could just leave.

>>59969112
It pains me to hear that, friend. I gave you nothing but love and this is how you repay me.

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>>59969100
>not wanting retarded ads is autism

>>59969157
Exactly, you need to be a good little consumer, otherwise you're a rabid socialist, just like I'm getting called here >>59969112

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>>59969146
>>59969117
You see, building reputation after ruining it is very hard and time consuming work. That's why use AdBlockers, you have to be free of shady ads for a decade before people reconsider.
You already started purging fake porn sites, right?

>>59966213
>being this jew
hi schlomo

>>59966708
oy vey

MALICIOUS, TACKY OR OTHERWISE SHITTY AD IMPLEMENTATION IS THE FASTEST AND EASIEST WAY TO GET PEOPLE TO HATE VISITING YOUR WEBSITE AND THUS DRIVES THEM AWAY

HOW HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND?

Post websites with good ads.

https://www.theoutline.com/

>>59969253
http://www.phonelosers.org/

>>59968261
a link to the website pl0x

>>59969246
It usually goes like this.
>get blocked by adsense for adult content, assholes who fuck with your ads, some other random reason
>try to find an alternative
>oh shady adprovider analxpro seems to have fair revenue rates
>get uncontrolled ads with code injected into it

>>59965988
>original demonoid = dead
ftfy

>>59969501
Meant for >>59966025

>>59968728
""""""""Free"""""""" content.

>>59969009
fucking lol

>>59964740
>>59966347
I'm only 20 and I remember when ADs weren't plastered all over every website I went to. And even then, the ones that were usually were just animated gif's, still images, or google ad text.

>>59968398
People offer justification as they will. I'm not wrong because I point out that they're being jackasses.

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I'm really starting to hate these blockadblock fags. DCMA my ass.

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blockadblock.com^$inline-script
blockadblock.com###babasbmsgx

Eh?

I'm in advertising. You've all got it all wrong.
Everyone in the industry I know realizes web advertising is shit. We all have adblocking software installed on our devices because there's no use seeing bad ads. Rather, it's the clients who employ us to put up their ads who are so deluded to think banner ads and YouTube prerolls actually work. It's bullshit, because the real money is in engaging content that the target will actually seek out on their own, yet the clients haven't realized this for themselves yet. Until they do, we're stuck making banner ads that don't work yet continue to get shoved in the target's face

i don't believe in hell but I hope there is a special afterlife for marketers

>>59966070
You should partner with Eminem and SUSE and make a Rap Album

>>59968998
because no one visits your website faggot

>>59969920
Perform your telepathic call NOW and we'll throw in this FREE, that's right FREE, bottle of halo polish worth 29.99, but only if you call within the next 30 minutes.

>>59968418
Which is why so many have zero qualms about blocking every single ad they see, and have no sympathy for the people complaining about it.

>>59965867
>Every normie who asks me to look at or fix anything on their computer gets UBO + filterlists + Reek's installed.

I do this not to stick it to the man, but because 99/100 times their computer problems are just a ton of malware they got from clicking on popups.

>>59965956
>want to read simple new article in 2002
>page was a continuous article with an ad banner at the top, and maybe a single add on the side

>2017
>3 rows of ad banners, adds on both borders and at the bottom
>article broken into 7 "pages" that you have to click through seperately, and its body is broken up by blocks of adds. Certain keywords are also underlined and hyperlink to sponsors.

>be part of certain sports forum
>complaining about ads is against user rules
>they start showing a new ad which literally links to malware that will fuck your computer up if you click on it
>people note this in the tech support subforum and get banned for pointing it out

>>59969822
>be american
>not looking at adds is illegal

>>59969117
>video ads

Pretty much all the major news sites still use video ads. The fuckers always wait a few seconds before loading too so you can't just click them off at the start. They wait till you are already halfway through the first paragraph and then start blasting their shitty pop music for a detergent ad.

>>59964712
Adblocking was a mistake
The normies know about it, the advertising Jews know about it

The fucking cat it out of the bag

For sites I use frequently and enjoy, I'll pay the sheckels. (4chan pass, donations, whatever)

But fuck them if they think invasive tracking and resource heavy ads are acceptable. Furthermore, businesses get my money anyway, so I have no problem with disabling allll of their shit.

This whole thread is because you people get annoyed of the ads that pop up when y'all are watching furri porn and trap porn that kills ur little boners hahahahaha pathethic just pathetic.

>>59964792
uBlock Origin already has anti-adblock killer, just enable it in the settings.

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I live in Europe where pirate bay is blocked and you have to use proxy/mirror sites. All of them have those fucking annoying 'on-click' popups where as soon as you left click the screen it'll open another bullshit scam browser window and open a popup saying 'dont leave this page shit head'.

Why doesn't AdBlock block these? Is there a program I should be using that can block these?

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>>59966025
>demonoid = dead
>YIFY = dead
>piratebay = half dead
>EZTV = dead
oh sweety, if you thought these were anything but ip honeypots you need a spanking. bless your heart.

Get rekt MLG style

>>59964712
These services aren't that reliable. I prefer using custom javascript to detect freeloaders and then introduce css errors so that they're compelled to try again without the adblocker.

>>59966025
my private site has around 50k members and everything you could possibly want and much much more, its actually a staggering amount of stuff

>>59974083
oh and I didn't pay for shit, just got an invite from an old friend

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>>59966245
The internet is a pull medium. I simply refuse to request ads.

Get fucked Jewgle

>>59965867
>I savored the delicious tears of the first ones to feel the pinch, youtubers.
Good feeling.

>>59966548
>he thinks he's not pirating by requesting copyrighted material from an unauthorized vendor and without compensating the creators.
Cool story. Tell me about the one where Tryone butt-fucked you in prison.

>Piracy: the unauthorized use or reproduction of another's work
You're watching it, even if it's only through streaming rather then requesting a copy(downloading), is still technically piracy because you are using it, but in an unauthorized manner.

Get fucked Davy Jones.

>>59964712
>obnoxious ads that are bloated at best and malicious at worst
>wondering why people have had enough
>BlockAdBlock

I'm sure gatehouse media is on board with this.

>>59964766
That would be HR, followed by marketing, followed by leftist MSM

>>59965305
t. marketing scumbag

>>59968392
There can be profit without being obnoxious about getting it

Realistically adblockers will die when bitcoin goes mainstream as a method to access content online. Still a long way to go though but it'll be glorious and we can finally ditch these shitty adblockers which actually don't stop any of the fully annoying popups, and we don't have to look at giant flashing video ads for tampons while browsing stormfront.

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>>59964712
Fuck those corporate faggots. I will not submit to their bullshit and they can't force me to either. Stop my adblocker and I'll stop coming to your shit site.Impede my browser and I'll impede your website BITCH. So be warned!

>>59966750
If your argument is that piracy can only be downloading, showing how downloading and streaming are basically the same thing is very relevant.

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>>59967176
Nigger, You're ignoring his previous statement
He shouldn't have to make a backup just because of an Ad that provides nothing of value to him

He'll start tolerating them when they don't have far more trade offs then benefits. Until then, fuck ads that could cost you your time and effort.

>>59974844
what really grinds my gears is your entitlement

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>>59966025

And so obviously, I'd never be able to watch whatever movie I want on a whim by poking around on the internet for like ten minutes tops.

Some sites being taken down is, at most, an annoyance.

>>59974907
Cool story jackass

>>59964712
*no script enabled*
wow that was hard

>>59974907
Like I already said, The internet is a pull medium. The ones who are being entitled here are the advertisers and websites getting upset that they can't force malware down your throat.

>>59974916
meant for >>59974883

>>59974929
>The ones who are being entitled here are the ones wanting to get paid for their work
Cool story jackass

>>59968840
An ad is one thing, a giant, flashing blob of shit that dicks up my browser or worse is another.

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>>59974945
>>59974932
>he's so mad he had to say contribute almost nothing to the conversation TWICE
Cool story indeed
We'll just keep blocking ads, it'll spread, advertisers will try to fight it, and we'll fight back.

Repeat ad infinitum.

>http://blockadblock.com/adblocking/frequently-asked-questions/
They're doing it for free, what the fuck is their problem/what are they after?

>without ads we wouldn't be able to pay our server costs
>please ignore that we turn a 10KB news article into 50MB of bloat, auto-playing HD video, and uncompressed images after every paragraph.

>>59975065
I bet it's a front for a major ad firm.

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>>59975065
>believing they aren't getting paid on the side and lying about it
When this thing takes off, they'll start trying to bank on it.

>check what scripts get blocked
>mail.ru

RUSSIAN HACKERS

>>59975065
There seems to be a github page for this under the name 'sitexw', with this as their home page.

https://sitexw.fr/

Which is owned, it seems, by a 'Valentin Allaire'.

Related?

>>59968235
>>59968282
Doesn't work for me. But then again I turned off uMatrix and that element didn't even show up

Also their twitter is pure fucking cancer.
https://twitter.com/blockadblock

>Asking the world’s poor to pay for web content is an awful idea. Anyone pushing alt payment models needs to check their privilege. #adblock

>Never in human history have the world’s poor had access to so much free information. #adblock is the change agent to reverse that trend.

>#adblocking makes the #fakenews problem worse. One can’t gut the revenues of top-tier journalism and then whine about the rise of fake news.

>Wanting to dismantle the free ad supported web in favor of paid/premium has to be the most egregious example of elitist 1st-world thinking.

>>59968989

double bluff

>>59975397
Holy shit that is the most Jewish twitter page I've ever seen in my entire life.

It's like they take every corporate shill tactic in existence and use them all at once.

>>59975397
HOLY SHIT AHAAHAHAHHAAHA

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>>59975382
Hmm, it seems to bring ads from other websites (yahoo, twitter, ebay) then checks if they are blocked before opening the restrictive element.

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>>59975554
forgot my image

These dudes are fucking pathetic. I've never seen such self-righteous shitheads like this.

>>59975571
The more I see this shit, the more it becomes possible in my head that these really are a bunch of cucks defending shitty advertising practices and doing it for free rather than actually paid shills.
And that is so, so much worse.

>>59969891
Speaking of prerolls, if you don't mind...

There is a preroll on youtube. It starts with this young chick in the kitchen before her first day on the job as a social accounts manager. (note on the table, surely from Mom: "You got this!") There's also generic soul music for young, White, SJW playing in the background, probably something from Orange is the New Stupid.

She gets to work and everything goes great because this software you buy corrects you when you type retard shit like "correct's" and the zipperhead the next desk over is impressed and WOOOOOOO! You go girl!

Also: What is it like being a soulless cocksucker in advertising? Is the money good enough that your wife doesn't fuck niggers?

>>59975616
But it's not software you buy. It's free. And apparently 'free' software with the budget for ads that slides itself between your keyboard and your browser does not raise eyebrows anymore.

>>59975571
This can't be real.
The amount of cognitive dissonance. It almost like they are trolling each other.

>>59975606
>entitlement alert
They are women.
Also fake news sites rely heavily upon ad revenue so if anything, adblocking would lead to a drop in "fake news".

>>59975569
Also I seemed to figure out what websites they are using to see if you are using an adblocker.

>>59975668
By fake news you obviously mean places like cnn, msnbc, bbc, etc, etc right?

>>59964712
>hosting website just to make money on advertising
I hope people like this get cancer and die in horrible pain.

>>59975733
cnn and msnbc were always shit but bbc was good for a while
idk what happened

>>59975657
No shit? That is interesting. If nothing else, this is a fascinating time to be alive. I remember wondering, when my dad bought a VCR, what life would be like thirty years later. It's not what I pictured, but still pretty crazy.

>>59975927
I saw a furniture ad with VR headsets in it yesterday. These are strange times.

>>59971805
pls respond

>>59971805
Works normally for me and I'm a Crofag.

>>59964712

there's no such thing as lost income

Advertisers so fucking mad they try to block my adblocker all the while I'm blocking their retarded scripts that stop my adblocker so either way I win

>>59976046
please share these mythical scripts so I can bask in the same glory as you, master

>>59976143
its called no script and it blocks website scripts that attempt to block adblock

>>59975834
just checkin lad

>>59975979
Yeah, and I don't know how much of it for the better. Of course, there were people who probably stroked out when X-rated movies became I thing. I don't have a problem with porn in moderation, but some people do and I don't blame them. Where can one say the line is crossed for the worse as far as society is concerned? What about individuals?

tl;dr
Just rambling like a manic cunt

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>>59964740

I just close the tab and never visit again, if you have to take in the ass to see the "unique" content it probably wasnt even good content anyways so fuck them.

>>59966275
So?

>>59974861
You are missing the point: Whether someone is streaming or not is irrelevant.

>>59966025
>demonoid = dead
http://www.demonoid.pw/?fi=1

>piratebay = half dead
https://thepiratebay.org/

They seem to be fine to me. Maybe you're trying to dl the wrong stuff

>>59975571
>Top tier journalism
>Implying this isn't a code word for outlets once well known for investigative journalism; shitting out celebrity trash, twitter tweets, and paying Reuters for their journalism so they can post it verbatim on their irrelevant sites.

>>59977708
If ethical sites offering quality or desired content partner with ethical advertisers who are selling or representing stakeholders selling quality product(s), the site visitor is less likely to leave immediately and never come back. This benefits all three parties.

Everybody else can go straight to hell. While we're at, why do people still faceberg?

>>59978055
Amen

>>59975571
>I've never seen such self-righteous shitheads like this.
We both have, of course, but you summed up my immediate thought nicely. Fuck these assholes. They deserve the hard way to go.

>>59975571
top tier sites ARE the fake news

>>59978063

They just have to figure out a completely new way of selling stuff, I think for bloggers patreon works just fine.
Like, I would actually donate/pay to SOME bloggers whose content I value IF they kept making quality content and understood the actual relationship we're into ie patron/service, nobody is entitled to money just because and with a holier than thou attitude they arent getting any from me.
This is pure capitalism, vote with your adblock.

>>59964712
Jackasses don't realize that their futile attempts to block ad blockers will be stopped quickly with the rise of noScript and the continued legacy of DNS lists.

Wow. The people behind blockAdBlock are really sad shills.

Their sense of entitlement is so grand that they are willing to undermine privacy and freedom for ad revenue.

That's what this fight against advertising has become. What originally started as a movement to reduce the amount of RAM and CPU usage on webpages has morphed into a movement to end tracking and to make browsing more safe.

>>59964712
Reported for advertising/spam. You've been shilling this thread all day. This has been going on for fucking ages.
No news here.

>>59971805
Try this:
https://www.ghacks.net/2013/05/27/how-to-block-mouse-click-popups-in-firefox/

>>59964712
https://reek.github.io/anti-adblock-killer/

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>>59964828
this

They probably don't even expect to succeed in the long-term. They just want to sucker publishers into buying their product.

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On my website, I use a script that displays a message telling people to disable adblock or get a better adblocker, but the vast majority of people just disable their adblocker. Actually, it's just a 1-liner that's called when the AdSense frame returns an error, and it works against most extensions like ABP. I use an adblocker myself, and if you're not willing to disable adblock or too lazy to spend 2 minutes to find a way around it, you probably didn't care about the site content anyway. That being said, I hate how Google doesn't give its 'publishers' more freedom when choosing which ads to display. It's ridiculous how I can't disable garbage like Flash-based ads from appearing, but that's just the way it is.

Also it's pretty enticing to use an adblock detecter when clicks are worth anywhere between $0.20 - 2.25, and views at $0.10 per 1,000. Though if you're someone that plasters ads all over your site, please off yourself (not that I'm one to talk).

>>59978860
What's your site so I can block it in my hosts file

holy shit i just blocked the script that the offer to the websites to block adblockers. is that even supposed to work?

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>>59964712
Every company has a propaganda department. They just call it the marketing department because it sounds so much better.

so how do we block this shit? adnauseam doesnt work

Can we hack in their site and ruin everything?

>>59979618
>Can we hack in their site and ruin everything?
This would have to be board wide, if not partnered with one of the bigger boards like /b/ or /pol/, which i doubt would help.

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>>59979660
>>59979660
>>59979660

Ads are garbage tier, and marketers are basically one step from being mass murderers. I'd pay literally a thousand dollars a month to never see an ad in real life or in medium ever.

Lately I've been making note of brands that I see advertising for either in print, radio, tv, etc and made myself a phone app so that I can check my purchases against this list in real time and never buy something that was advertised to me or from a brand/company/parent company that advertised to me.

Literally what is wrong with ads.

The only ones that bother me are youtube ones and I'll gladly pay to not have to view them when I'll be given the chance.

It does seem like the glory days are over. UBO gets detected on a lot of sites, pirating a simple movie is harder now that tpb, demonoid, kat are down... thing is it didn't make me buy more shit it just made me stop watching tv shows movies etc...

I don't think their solution to pirating and ad blocking is smart in the long run it just drives people away

>>59979898
you retard, you being driven away means jackshit to them. You weren't paying them anyway before. IF people like you are driven away who won't pay anyway how does it even remotely affect them. Infact it saves them money as you no longer wont able to steal their bandwidth

I challenge you to visit http://diep.io with an adblocker and have it *not* detect it. You can know if it detected it because once you get in game it gives you an annoying message.

>>59964740
Only for kissanime