So is Ryzen 5 1600X the best bang for the buck CPU for both gayming

>>59943967
Yes and best of all you don't have to delid because it's soldered.

>>59943967
Nothing is, but figures it might work for you.

>>59943967
Go 1600 and overclock.

>>59943967

How the fuck would I know? I'm a faggot from /pol/.

>>59943967
Yeah it is.

>>59943967
No, the 1600 is. But if you have a cooler with the appropiate brackets, get that one.

>>59944073
1600 does include the wraith cooler right? I think 1600X does not, but I'm not sure

pretty much. If you need it, you could go to 3.9-4Ghz pretty easily. people like to compare the ryzen lineup against 5Ghz kabylake chips. good luck getting your kabylake to 5ghz without delidding and very good cooling. intel should solder their ihs like amd does, not use cum as tim.

>>59943967
if you are budget limited, the 1600x is the way to go, could not recommend the 1600 because its 30$ less and would need to be oc'ed unlike the 1600x

if you aren't budget limited, 1700 would be the bang for buck choice.

no, 1600 is.

>>59944095
yeah, the 1600x doesn't comes with one

>>59944116
not sure if you know what bang for buck means but ryzen 7 ain't bang for buck

the real gems are the 1400 and 1600

>>59944261
Good 8 Cores/16 Threads for 329$ is a steal. Not even Kaby Lake comes ahead of that processing power for workstation taks. You have to pay more than 1,000$ to get similar power from Intel.

>>59943967


dont forget you need a GPU so any "intel price point" cpu it "beats" gets a $100 cost added on because thats the average price for any new standalone GPU today

>>59944319
>intel does not need a gpu for gayming

You can't do gayming on integrated graphics anyways, unless you're into retro gaming alone.

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>>59943967
get a 1600 and oc it to 3.9 GHz. It will be faster yet cheaper than a 1600X. If you don't want to oc get the 1600X.

>>59944489
Do you need to get a different cooler than the stock to OC Ryzen 1600 safely?

>>59945624
not to 3.9 you don't.

>>59945858
what voltage would that be?
>thanks for the answers

>>59945888
i dont fucking know. haven't OC'd one yet. look it up. spoonfeed denied.

>>59944489
>tfw tried to oc my 1600 to 3.5 just to start and my motherboard bios shits out

gg gigabyte.

>>59944319
>implying any Intel iGPU outside of Iris Pro from Broadwell is worth a shot

Even then it got it's ass handed to it by Kaveri gen APUs

>>59945924
>gigabyte
Then switch to the backup BIOS .....
i only buy gigabyte because of that

>>59945624
>>59945907
>just buy ryzen
>don't ask questions spoonfeed denied XD

>>59945924
>he fell for "cheap motherboard" meme
>doesn't realize you need a 200$ motherboard if he wants to overclock ryzen

>>59945957
>Then switch to the backup BIOS
aha. funny you should mention that...

Wait, I thought the Ryzen chips weren't being shipped with coolers to appease the third party companies, or am I completely wrong?

>>59945980
but friend, the ax370 gaming 5 is $200

>>59945963
What the fuck?

>>59945990
>aha. funny you should mention that...
It is funny, isn't it.

>>59945992
how are you so wrong?

>>59946041
no. both bioses on my brand new $200 board are toast. fuck my life.

>>59946057
I guess that's what happens when I bone ur mum

I have the 1700X at 4.0ghz stable.. should I throw it away and get a 1600?

>>59946059
How does one manage to do that?

>>59946059
How do you even fuck up a BIOS flash?

>put BIOS on USB
>go to flash bios option
>flash BIOS

did you unplug the USB halfway through flashing or what

>>59946082
flashed both to the latest bios. go into bios and oc to 3.5ghz and set xmp profile for ram. reboot to error message. switch bioses and try the same. same result. cmos clr and battery removal doesnt work. gonna try further troubleshooting tomorrow

>>59946073
Why the fuck would you do that

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>>59945992
They all have coolers except the 1600x and the 1800x

The R7 coolers even have bonus RGB lighting

>>59946118
Which one gets the Wraith Max?

>>59946110
>flashed both to the latest bios
There we go, now why would you do such a thing?

>>59946118
1700x doesn't have a cooler either
>>59946142
Wraith max isn't out yet

>>59946111
CUZ /G/ SAID IT WAS THE BEST

>>59946142
Apparently it's OEM only.

>>59946178
What the fuck are you on about, boy?

>>59946073
Is the performance/hz of the 1700 any different than 1700X?

Or is it just the factory OC meme?

>>59946101
see >>59946110

>>59946151
agesa 1.0.0.4

>>59945624
I'll tell you in a week

>>59946201
I think it's just a factory OC meme
my 1700X seems to be the same, if I would have known I'd only get a 1700

>>59943994
Delid my dick

>>59946201
1700x are better binned

the higher you go up the better binned the chips are with the 1800x being crem de la meme

>>59946275
The difference is still marginal due to all good Zeppelins getting binned for Naples.

>>59943967
Probably

>>59946202
>agesa 1.0.0.4
But its not required to actually USE your Ryzen, the point of a backup is to have a fail-safe that is always going to be there if you fuck the first one up.

>>59944088
Shadilay brother. Checked.

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>>59944088
>>59946311

>>59946305
true, but i paid a decent amount for ddr4-3000 and id like to use it at the rated speed, or close to it, rather than at 2133. unfortunately looks like that experiment ended up an expensive mistake.

>>59944116
1600 is the obvious choice compared to 1600X

>>59946059
How do you fuck up that bad?

fugg now i'm scared of updating bios, my father also told me that updating bios is dangerous like a week ago.

>>59944116
This. I'm getting 1700 and OCing for the extra frames/render times in highly multithreaded stuff, and having the extra 2 cores over 6 that will be more and more optimised means I can keep recording and streaming into the future with almost lossless minimum frames

>>59946335
>tumblr.jpg
Give it back, snowflake

>>59943967
i5 7600k is.

>>59943967
>Not getting a 1700
>Not separating ccx by OS

>One ccx for wangblows,one for Windows.

>Down clock Linux one since no games

>>59947333
By separating you mean giving cores 1-4 to the windows and rest to the games?

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>>59947295

>>59944319
While being a fair point and one to consider most people use a standalone GPU anyway. Even the (admittedly) few business/enterprise desktops I've taken apart had standalone GPUs.

prices are all over, stock is in and out.
might just wait to buy in for now.

>>59944261
in terms of processing power, you have the 1600 and 1600x, amd 4 cores aren't an option as they perform disproportionately bad, the 1600 once bios gets sorted will be a gem, but if you want to circumvent all the ocing bullshit, its only 30$ more for the 1600x, you may need a cooler, so another 20-30 you would be spending no mater what if you went intel and their k line anyway.

as for the 8 core, it has the most headroom, once everything is settled, likely going to be a monster, but is held back by the need to oc, and need for faster ram, likely fixable, but still a concern, plus, if you use programs that can actually benefit from 8 cores that's a jump up from the 6 core, and if you don't, at least 2 more cores worth of head room from the 6.

>>59944292
kaby does pull ahead in some workstation tasks, but only because the programs literally do not benefit from more cores, like photoshop.

>>59947143
in 2-6 months, no shit, it will be the easiest cpu to recommend aside from the 1700, however right now when you need to update the bios... that 1600x will come stock far faster and will require less bullshit to make work.

>>59947262
already bought a 1700, going to run it stock when it gets here till the noctua brackets come, then i'm going to oc it to 3.6 and see where it goes from there. honestly would be happy even if it only hits 3.6, hell even stock that thing is worlds ahead of my current cpu.

>>59947683
I mean since 1700 is 2 ccx aka two quad cores complexes on the same dye you can. Use one as Linux machine a Windows machine

>>59946142
oem only for now at least, amd got threatened by its partners that if they put the wrath max in box they would end amd support.

considering on a 1700 you can oc to 3.8 on most cpus with stock cooler, kind of see why, and also am starting to despise 'partners' in the graphics card industry and aftermarket cooling as I now know why we get such shit out of the box.

>>59946292
Go look at stats from silicon lottery, realistic OC expectation with safe volts from 1700 is 3.8ghz, 3.9-4.0 from 1700x and 4.0-4.1 from 1800x.

>>59948187
most recent bios updates lowered the voltage to get them by .05 on many boards,

>1600 is like 100-200Mhz worse depending on your luck
>comes with a useless cooler youre going to throw away
>price difference is insignificant

Maybe getting the 1600x is actually a good idea?

>>59948659
>useless

Ain't niggas getting 3.9 on the stock cooler?

>>59948704
And what are the fan RPM?
i inow it can handle the task, but it gotta be far from a silent system.

>>59948757
If that's your definition of useless then by the time you've dropped the cash for an overpriced meme cooler for the 1600x then you've already spent enough for an R7 1700

Is there any difference in overclocking between 1600 and 1600x? Like will be ocing 1600 to 4Ghz more stressful for mobo than doing it with 1600x or will it exactly the same? What about TDP and all that shit? What about silicon lottery?

I mean if everything is the same what's the reason for 1600x existance?

>>59943967
no, 1700 is.

>>59943967
one thing for sure: better than inteljew.

>>59950287
1600x will do it at 1.35v
1600 will do it at 1.45v

power and temps will scale accordingly
I'd say you can save easily on electrical bills $30 in 3 years if you keep it at 1.35v

but if your heating sucks get 1600 and OC to 4.0 it sits at comfortable 75C if you got bad chip(on load obviously)

>>59943967
If you do both gayming and workstation tasks yes.

If you do only gaming, it beats the 7600k in games where cores matters, and loses where IPC and clockspeed matter

>>59950369
>*in 720p lowest settings

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>>59950380

>>59950369
>it loses less than 7% at 17% clock deficit
>IT'S BAD FOR GAMING

>>59944261
>the real gems are the 1400

Good luck with your gimped chip missing half its cache, retard.

so how much of a housefire is an oc 1600? i have the regular poorfag 212 evo but am eligible for a free am4 upgrade kit. will it be enough to keep temps low on an oc 1600 4.1ghz?

my current 4690k at 4.4ghz idles at the 40's and maxes at the mid 60s or very rarely low 70s if my room is hot.

>>59950369
7600k is complete shit compared to 1600X

>>59950437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPWMIpVrVQ0

>>59945980
>he doesn't realise I've had a 1600 running at 3.8 on stock cooling and the cheap Asrock B350 24/7 for the best part of a week without drama
Here are your shekels and your (You).

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>>59950442
It sure is

Not imagine if both are oc'd, the 7600k would be even more shit!

>>59950397
Does it matter? It's faster at the same price

You'd have to be an absolute mongoloid to go for the inferior product at the same price, if all you do is game

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>>59950388

>>59950539
for one it's not better in frametimes which all that matters
for two it's a 4 core with same performance at 100% util - no headroom
for three it's proven fact that i7 now is better than i5 for gaming even though they got similar averages

if 6800K wasn't housefire and $400 i'd get that for pure gaming year back

with 1600 you get benefits of i7 and no i5 downsides

>>59950577
>.x on fps numbers

I can't take this seriously. Also how did it take you to find that old benchmark?

>>59950584
>it's not better in frametimes
This meme again, you people keep shifting the goalpost.

And yes i7's are better than i5's, modern i7's easily oc to 5 ghz though, while AMD's shit can't even get past 4.1 ghz.

So you can't extrapolate from i7 > i5 so 1600x > 7600k.

>>59950606
>easily oc to 5 ghz though
>This meme again

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>>59950599
>this benchmark doesn't count
Said every fanboy living in fantasy land ever, lmfao

>>59950621
will you fuck off with your day 0 benchmarks, please?

>>59950615
Every reviewever seems to get the 7700k to 4.8-5 ghz range easily.

That's a 800-1000 mhz difference with an already lower IPC cpu architecture (Ryzen).

>>59950633
If you claim this isn't accurate, provide your own benchmarks, instead of just screaming like an infant that these aren't correct

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>>59950520
And now back to reality.

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>>59950656
>where is your source troll
such classics

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More day 1 benchmarks incoming

Oh wait..

How about non-K 7700? Should I get it over Ryzen 1600?

>>59950686
Where is the 7600k in there?

>>59950643
>Every reviewever seems to get the 7700k to 4.8-5 ghz range easily.
>every reviewer

on water loop, 1.5v at 80C

>>59950701
son, there is no such thing as 7600 not K

>>59950697
Sure, if you have brain damage.

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Look at the power of ryzen, the 7600k is such a piece of shit.

Adoredtv said the 1600x is the superior choice so it must be true

>>59950697
non K clocks are too low
clock for clock 6 core wins

>>59950702
I think you mean Ryzen, and 4.1 ghz that is

>>59950681
kek this salazar guy is so retarded

>>59950711
It is tho. You Jewtel shills will see your sins when you try streaming/doing anything productive and when suddenly games require a minimum 6 cores to run.

>>59950681
>7700k on top by a wide margin
Reality seems pretty good

>>59950711
>>59950689
>youtube

>>59950718
did you buy your premium $50 delid kit?

>>59950756
It isn't for gaming though, you seem to have trouble getting that through your thick skull

>>59950758
3=2
money don't exist, we live in communism utopia
good to know

>>59950783
the 7700k is just as expensive as the 1700x, dumbass.

Now oc both chips to the max and see the gap widen

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>>59950689
Now for the actual benchmark.

>>59950770
Which is why I said Doing something productive as well. Learn to read doofus.

>>59950790
>7700k above the much more expensive 1800x in the most AMD favored game around
wew

>>59950792
And I never argued ryzen isn't better for production work, moron

>>59943967

>Only works on windows 10

get fucked

>>59950804
We said the exact same thing and yet you still find ways to jab at me. Dumbass.

>>59950790
>R7 1700 is nowhere to be found
Biased as fuck

>>59950770
Be sure to close any other program and service so that your little cores won't stutter.

>>59950388
>>59950577
>>59950599

>

>>59950788
>5%
>wide

also nobody talking about 1700x, dumbass.

>>59950643

Skylake 5ghz at 1.4v

http://www.tweaktown.com/image.php?image=imagescdn.tweaktown.com/content/7/7/7742_65_asrock-z170m-oc-formula-intel-z170-motherboard-review_full.png

>>59950878
welcome to reality. When there's a better option, we suggest it.

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>down to 34 fps
7600k is a fucking abortion.

>>59944088
Go back, Drumpflet.

>>59950718
Intel sucks it needs deliding and a custom water cooler to get 5GHZ
Mean while ryzen can hit 2GHZ with a stock cooler!
How goy do you have to be to buy intel?
Did I mention that AMD gives you a cooler for FREE so thats like 30$ price advantage over intel.

>>59947262
>I can streaming
Kill
Your
Self

>>59947295
Oy vey!

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>tfw all reviews are done on old AGESA and 2400RAM because MUH VIEWS

>>59950949
>Unironically believe to reviewz
Pls die

>>59950697
Yeah if you want a CPU that's shittier at everything

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>>59950765
>did you buy your premium $50 delid kit?

>>59944096
The Apex has an auto OC profile for 5ghz and tuned 4133 CL17 timings
http://i.imgur.com/lXNqIXY.jpg

>>59950335
1600 + B350 + Wraith Sphire @3.8GHz @1.30 would be great

>>59950765
>>59950979
Did you get your liquid nitrogen kit to get ryzen past 3.9-4.1GHZ cap?

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>>59950992
>an auto OC profile
hahahaha
he is serious

>>59951025
Don't even need to go higher than 4GHz.

This is how shit the 7600k is.

>>59951025
>MOAR GIGAHURTZZZZZ!!!

We really have circled back to the Bentium 4 era. :D

>>59943967
Shit... I believe Intel is dead now except they plan to bring more cores.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-5820K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600X/2579vs3920

I still feel comfortable with my 5820K as I own it for a year now and only paid 225 € for it.

>>59950992
And? The Crosshair VI Hero has an auto OC profile for 4.4GHz with Ryzen. Doesn't mean it's actually going to work. Even the Z270-A I own has a 5GHz profile for the 7700K, which uses housefire voltages that would require custom water to cool. All auto overclocking things are complete shit, and pre-defined profiles are even worse.

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>>59951037
>Don't even need to go higher than 4GHz.
Somebody needs to make an edit of this picture with a GHz version.
>5GHz? Why do you need 4.5GHZ, here take this stock cooler overclock it to 3.8GHz

>>59951086
It uses a bit more voltage but it works. It's for lazy people.

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>>59951066
>MOAR COREZZZZZ!!!!!

We really have circled back to bulldozer era. :D

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>>59951095
And yet it beats any i5 in every benchmark.

>>59951107
>a bit more

Yeah right. The 7700K 5GHz profile applies over 1.4V AND has no AVX offset. That's not for lazy people, unless they happen to have gotten over their laziness briefly to build a custom water loop. Even delidded that's housefire territory. Only a retard would use them.

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>>59951142
Yep, we sure have. :D

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>>59951150
>kabylake x
>up to 4 cores
>16 PCIe lanes

So this is the power of intel

>>59950815
so does your kaby kek.

>>59950788
>$25 delid job
>$50 cooler

What are the best AM4 CPU coolers right now?

>>59951025
>use LPP for mad power consumption
>get laughed at for muh low overcocks
>use HPP for mad clocks
>get laughed at for muh housefire
never change /g/

>want Ryzen
>also want to do kvm gpu passthrough
>don't have room for a second gpu in my build
Damn

I was thinking the heck is with sudden shill activity today, right it's 500s come out, gotta dampen the sales for by ruining the rep right away
because marketing dogma is: brand = product

>>59951618
What did he mean by this?

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>>59951095
>7zip 4 miles
Every fucking time

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>>59951707
at least you'd be able to see
unless you want to sit blind man in F1 car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Otrz7xNKDc

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>>59951743
>le 4k meme
Nope

>>59951758
lost it on Pins.
this mexian works for everything

Gigabyte b350 gaming 3 +1600 with stock spire cooler.
3.75ghz @ 1.32v, vrms are cool and cpu goes little over 60c on full load.

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>>59943967
poorfag here, should I do it /g/?

>>59951812
add 0.03v and go 3.80

>>59951821
why not rx580 meme

>>59951812
during idle, cpu uses 10-15w, during gaming 25-45w, full load <85w.

>>59951821
get reference 580 for 200
wait for a review on it though alter today, cooler may be not as good as it looks
if it is though it's golden

>>59951812
Nice, what RAM are you using at which settings?
Also is the not cooled SoC VRM an issue?

>>59951821
>8 GB RAM
>1060 instead of a 480 8G
>TFW hab mir letztes Jahr ein Quadchannel 2400er Crucial kit 16GB für 45 € neu gekauft

>>59951961
but all my freinds keep memeing me about how the 1060 has the best bang for your buck also where did you get that ram?

>>59951970
You can just buy two kits of 2x4gb ram. Also, the 480 is pretty much on par with the 1060, judging from userbenchmark.com
Prices might vary where you live, though.

>>59951970
You know you're always getting the best and most supreme value components when you listen to your dumb friends, quoting direct from marketing material. You should ask them for CPU advice too so that they can tell you that nobody needs more than an i5 for gaymen.

>>59951912
Corsair vengeance led 3200 2x8gb kit, which was at discount. So far tops out at 2666 17-18-18-36, awful, but mobo didnt get memory enchantments yet.

Soc vrms are not a problem. Cool as ice.

>>59952037
GEX416GB3200C16DC

these work 3200 on gaming 3/k7/gaming 5
just fyi

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>>59951095
This nose doesn't lie

>>59952037
Nice.
I'm between the ASRock K4 for 112€ and the Gigabyte G3 for 115€, RAM will be LPX3000 CL15 or Ripjaws V 3200 CL16.
I like the ALC1220 on the GB mobo, but seemingly it has a worse NIC, some not specified Realtek.
VRM should be equal i guess. Comes down to true 4 phase with better mosfets vs doubled 6 phase and NIKOS PK's.
ASRock is being shilled here quiet hard, idl which one to chose.

>>59952077
lol okay? check this
>>59951743
Turns out everybody da jew.

>>59950681
>7600k at 3.8Ghz
What did he mean by this?

>>59952585
>1600X at 3.6GHz
>1700 at 3GHz
Are you dumb or what?

>>59951781
>1600x
>Only 5fps slower than a 7700k with a single GPU
Good to know the 1600x is the best value in the market.

>>59953170
Isn't 1600 + B350 best value?

>>59954674
I think the 1700 has the best value. EIGHT cores and SMT for 359 €! I hope the 6900s drop in price so I can get one. Changing from X99 to AMD would be retarded, but I don't really need that performance.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6900K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X/3605vs3915

I hope Intel bleeds out so we can get 8 cores + SMT mainstream.

>>59954920
>Changing from X99 to AMD would be retarded
I went from a 5820k to a 1700x...

>>59950718
ryzens tj max is 75°C, so it's impossible for it to run above that, stop spreading lies

>>59950520

>dx11

makes me think

>>59952585

>1700 at 3ghz

wew

>>59954674
1600 and B350 is the best all-around value in the PC market right now.

>>59955010
1700X is great
You upgraded to a platform that'll stay around for a while so expect easier future upgrades

>>59944319
>$239 R5 1600 + $40 GT 730, which is on par with Intel's HD530 in Kaby Lake
>$279 for a six core with more multi-threaded capability than the Core i7-7700K

>>59955392
test, ignore this

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>>59955643

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>tfw fell for the i5 7600k meme with a dead-end socket just a few months ago

>>59951833
once I get better cooler and gpu

>>59952215
well sound quality of Gigabyte's G3 is same or better compared to my old creative xtremegamer. So I guess it is pretty decent for integrated stuff or not?

In F6 bios, mobo still lacks stuff. In memory department you can only change multiplier, voltage and 5 main timings. No command rate and other settings. Well X boards have those, so I guess Gigabyte will add everything later.

>>59943967
No, it's not, you retards. How many of you actually benchmark here? None of my acquaintances go on /g/.

1600 and 1700 are only Ryzens worth buying, period. For pure gaming and streaming, they aren't worth in for ANY budget. If you're doing other stuff like vid editing, that's where the 1600/1700 shine.

Really pissed about the mediocre Ryzen performance, the terrible 580 performance, and the constant shilling.

>>59957245
The Gigabyte G3 has by far the best sound quality of all B350 boards and is actually on the same level with >200 bucks X370 boarda, VRM seems good, price is ok. Seems like Gigabyte and ASRock take it away this time around.

>>59955974
>tfw fell for the 2500k meme with a dead socket a few years ago

We use Autocad and Rhino3d in our small design office. There is a new guy and I have to get him a new PC and right now my boss alloted a budget of $1500

Can you guys help me?

>>59958148
no

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>>59957405

>>59950702
>water loop
LOL
You can get 5GHz easily with just an NH-D14, and that cooler is already outdated as fuck.

NH-D15 makes any CPU a literal god.

>>59951157
Cheap money for computer shops.
Not kidding, guy I knew bought his PC and paid a fuckton of cash just to get it overclocked.

It was a one-button OC like this, and it wasn't even stable. Once I removed his OC he thanked me how his computer does not BSOD anymore and how fast it is.

Fokken normies, man...

>>59945924
> buy Intel boards since forever
> no problems ever

> buy an AMD for Athlon + Phenom build
> it shits itself

FUCKING WHY
I am trying to like AMD but FUCK.

>>59960274
NH-D14 is as good as an i100 anyway, with less noise

>>59951618
oy vey delete this

>>59960421
Intel and AMD don't make the mobos you dense fuck.

>>59960274
doesnt mean kaby runs cool

I've got a broadwell-e and a friend's got a 7700, both have the D15. Mine is literally 20 degrees cooler idle.

>>59958021
>tfw broke my 2500k socket

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>>59957405
>No charts
>No graphs
>No links
>No evidence at all
Get in, intelshill.

Is there anything that doesn't work on windows 7 with ryzen? Probably gonna buy one but fuck windows 10

What memory speed should I get for a ryzen 1600? I heard it benefits from it, but how much? 16GB @ 2133 is about £85, and 16GB @ 3000 is about £115.

>>59960701
3000+, cheapest you can get there
timings on them do not matter

>>59960722
That's what I was thinking, cheers

i have a i5 3570k should i upgrade? i have a evo 212 on it.

>>59948757
The cooler that came with my 1700 is quiet as fuck even at 100%

>>59943967
I thought Ryzen was shit for gaming?

>>59951781
>Novidia drivers
Nope!

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>>59943967
>So is Ryzen 5 1600X the best bang for the buck CPU for both gayming and workstation tasks?

tl;dr YES

But it would help to get the memory to 3200 MHz and OC the core to 3.9 or 4 GHz.

In multi-tasking, it slays the i5 lineup.

Also, right now, nVidia's dx12 drivers punish Ryzen users since they use some driver hacks to mask the fact that Pascal, etc. can't do async compute.

>>59944073
Or this

>>59962346
Nah, that was just 0-day shilling by paid pajeets.

>>59962346
Only if you Novidia. Vega + Ryzen should be very interesting.

>>59955497
As long as it can OC to 3.8 to 4 GHz

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>>59957405

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Mww9pb

will this net me 60 FPS on everything released thus far on ultra or high at 1080p?

>>59963486
>https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Mww9pb
Yup.

>>59943967
no, a refurbished i5 is
you can get them for like ~100 USD

>>59948177
Thats retarded. Why would they do that,

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>>59964276

>>59960701
GEX416GB3200C16DC
this one if you can

thing with memory I figured out which modules work at top speed
basically if memory got 16-18-18 timing it won't go higher than 2667 until May
if it got 16 16 16 it will go to 3200

>>59964276
why did microsoft ended microsoft mouse? it was indestructible!

>>59964401
Thanks for the response, I already bought the CMK16GX4M2B3000C15R however, basically just because it was the cheapest 3000 I could find.

>>59943967
i went with the r 1500x. works pretty well

>>59962346
No that's Intel thanks to the retarded stuttering.

>>59964454
will depend on your board
ASRock and Gigabyte will work 100% 2667 cl15-16-16 on this one, play with it, but carefully
if you are lucky and got fresh ver 4.31 modules it will run 2933

>>59958021
Same...
And lately my motherboard has gotten nasty coil whine (yes, it is the mobo). 1155 motherboards are pricy as fuck nowadays though so might as well upgrade the entire machine. It is impressive that a machine I bought in 2011 is still doing just fine though.

>>59964276
why do that? you are a third party, you literally are now out of work because amd put a cooler that yours can't realistically beat out, lets say amd put a noctua d15 tier cooler in the box, how many people would go to a different air cooler? if aio had to compete would they bother, they aren't that much better.

The fun things amd lets slip when you don't talk to the publicly but privately.

I honestly think amd pushes their gpus as hard as they can, and puts shit coolers on them just so they can justify to oems and not piss them off that they need to have non blower ones or else.

Its complete bullshit that we have to have shit coolers because these cocksuckers want a piece of the pie they don't earn, but god damn.

>>59961350
>The cooler that came with my 1700 is quiet as fuck even at 100%
I personally got a d15 for mine just because I wanted redundant fans along with NEVER needing to worry about temps ever.

>>59950681
>>59950686
>>59950689
Why do these benchmarks show only 1800 and 1600? I am thinking of taking 1700x instead of 7700k - what about it in gayming? Will it perform in between 1600x and 1800x or worse?

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>>59968156
1600x=1800x in 90% of games, only few very well threaded games get benefit from 8c
like BF1 and Mafia 3
MEA gets some I think but withing 5%

also never forget this chart if you have problems finding memory

>>59968405
Man, I am retarded in terms of hardware, so please elaborate - how will 1700x perform compared to those 2 processors?

>So is Ryzen 5 1600X the best bang for the buck CPU for both gayming and workstation tasks?
No, that's still i5 2500k

>>59968484
slower, unless you OC it to 4Ghz then the same.
just for gaming 1600x is ideal

>>59968551
if you have it at 4.8Ghz, sure
otherwise - no
do not mask your lack of funds with false information.

>>59968568
Why would you have your i5 2500k in lower frequency than 4.8-5ghz?
These things are beasts at overcloking

>>59968559
Man I kinda want those 8 cores. Otherwise, why not go intel... How hard would it be for me to OC my Ryzen 1700x? What cooler would I need?
Also, in your picture there is 3200 cas14 RAM, and I only saw 3200 16cas like Ripjaws 5. How hard is it to find that cl14 RAM and how expensive is it going to be?
PPS I heard there were some troubles with ryzen motherboards and high clock RAM. Will Asus prime x370 pro be a good motherboard?

>>59968642
>Will Asus prime x370 pro be a good motherboard?
it's alright, also look at gaming 5

>How hard is it to find that cl14 RAM and how expensive is it going to be?
not hard, very expensive around $230 - not wroth it, perf comes from RAM clock not CL

RAM that works is geil evo x and LPX 3200 ver 4.31
some hyper x sticks, check motherboard qvl
I can't remember the names
do not get ripjaws(unless particular kit is in QVL of your board), it doesn't work

1700x is easy to OC, any ~$30-40 cooler should do
if you want to be safe get NH U12S

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>>59968642
>why not go intel
first of all Skylake-X x299 housefires™ will be shown/released soon, so don't bother with those old Broadwell-E's

BUT there are rurmours AMD will bring their own x-99 boards/chipsets/CPU's from 12 to 16 core's
>https://videocardz.com/67594/rumor-amd-x390-and-x399-chipsets-diagrams-leaked
>https://videocardz.com/67649/amd-ryzen-cpu-with-12-cores-and-24-threads-spotted
>some other 'leak' linux driver showing support for 12 to 16 core Ryzen i cant find right now

second: to OC your 1700x just open their OC tool and use the sliders (or just google it wtf). you will need a decent cooler ( cheap ass 212 evo will bring you at least to 3.8Ghz all core). just dont fuck up the voltage, keep it under 1.4V (amd states 1.35V as safe)

ASrock Taichi is praised across the board as a very fne mobo for Ryzen, but look for reviews.

>>59968823
>first of all Skylake-X x299 housefires™ will be shown/released soon, so don't bother with those old Broadwell-E's

forgot this link
https://videocardz.com/68219/intel-x299-basin-falls-platform-to-launch-in-june

>>59968823
Waiting is good but I need a pc now. Max I will wait for vega in may.
This cpu stuff is so fucking hard. From one point of view intel "just works" for gayims. But then there are only 4 cores, and I like amd. But you have to overclock it, n stuff-i have never done it. Fucking pcs are difficult!

>>59969015
alright, just buy Intel

now you have to go back to >>>/v/

>>59969037
Don't be rude.

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>>59969056
>cpu stuff is so fucking hard
>intel "just works" for gayims
>only 4 cores, and I like amd
>Fucking pcs are difficult!

stop trying to fit in here
>>>/v/

>>59969113
I am not trying to fit. I am here for advice, and I have openly stated that I don't know shit. Gayming is the main goal of my build. But i don't want to go intel now and that's why I am here.

>>59969113
Anyway, why so insecure anon?

>>59969015
It's not that hard, just get a decent CPU, intel 7700k or R7 1700 they are both good, what you need for video games is a good video card . Ignore all the fucking retards arguing about CPU's they don't know shit, using the same processor you can go from 50 fps while pairing it with a slow card to 140 fps using the latest card, so you need a processor that is just fast enough and have enough cores and threads.

Intel 7700k has 4 cores and 8 threads, but each core is very fast and that's why it beats the R7 in most games.
Ryzen 1700 is slower, but it has 8 cores and 16 threads, so games that uses ALL THE CORES are the only ones that catches with the Intel 7700k, however games will definitely become core/thread efficient in the future and this is fact due to silicon limitations we can't make cores fast enough.

Vega is coming out in 1 or 2 months so you should wait for benchmarks and meanwhile inform yourself about video cards and why they matter in video games, don't be a pathetic shill loser like /g/.

>>59969015
>But you have to overclock it
you really don't
saying this again 6 core 1600/1600x if you can afford good cooler is ideal for gaming
it has zero intel downsides like occasional stutter, only 4 cores and expensive motherboards and works more than fine with modern games out of box

>>59969358
Thanks for explanation, man. I will wait for vega for sure.