well...another massive disappointment https://videocardz.co

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>>59908158
>All tests were performed on RX 580 clocked at 1360 MHz. Shortly put, results are comparable to RX 480 with the same frequency.


No shit? It's basically the same situation as Kabylake, same arch at higher clocks.

At least he got the stock 580 to 1500MHz, which is pretty nice.

>>59908158
Not that disappointing t b h.

It's a rebrand so it's expected, but the clock speeds and OC speeds are pretty good for a rebrand.

>>59908158
We already knew it was a rebrand, dumbass.

>>59908277
>>59908330
>>59908343
>b-but kabylake
>w-w-we already knew AMDead is shit
>i-i-it's fine
>muh overclock

Rebrand or refresh? It seems to be considerably higher clocked with a much better cooler.

>>59908364

Nvidia released a 1060 with higher clocks like several days ago, what are you even smoking?

>>59908158
can any faggot explain to me why AMD is doing the rebrand/refresh? What is the motive for such an action?

>>59908158
If you were thinking the 580 was Vega, then you're a bloody moron.

>>59908405
The same thing Nvidia is doing, $$$.

>>59908427
can you please elaborate on how releasing the same card with slightly higher clocks is a financially sound decision?

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>>59908158

>>59908405
To find the meaning of life.

Why else besides fucking money you retarded monkey? These are corporations, they managed to get Polaris higher clocked thanks to fab improvements and are releasing them to compete better with nvidia's mid range cards.
The only card that's not a refresh/rebrand is the 550, which has more cores than the 450

>>59908451
460>560 has more cores, the 450 doesn't exist and the 550 is a new card at 8CUs

>>59908158
It's a refresh people. These are not even VEGA cards.

>>59908398
At least they didn't have the nerve to call it anything other than a 1060.

>>59908514
Who cares what they're called? You can't even know which 1060's have faster memory now.

>>59908514
Your entire argument falls down to "I have an issue with how this is called!", and unlike Nvidia that released two SKUs with higher memory clocks, AMD released several higher clocked chips, one with higher core count and one complete new chip (550)

AYYMD REBRANDEON HOUSEFIRES

>>59908574
>it's ok when AMD does it

>>59908964
What an argument.

>>59908158
>>59908364
>>59908449
>>59908514
>>59908671
>>59908964
dumb goys

>>59908451
>fab improvements
How? Its the same fucking card with more power draw

>>59909076
>How
They're using GloFo LPC instead of LPP

>>59909093
Source

>>59909129
Official? You're never gonna get that from AMD, there's only forum discussion until it releases in a few days.

>>59909076
it's not the same card. It has different power delivery which may have a role in the higher frequencies. The silicon itself is also definitely higher quality, as even redesigned 480s were hard pressed to hit 1500 on the core and the card shown in the leak is a reference board. If you were paying attention, you'd have seen that as the process matured, 480s with good ASIC quality were drawing less than 100W under a gaming load.

It seems to me that the 480 was released prematurely and the 580 is the matured chip. I don't think it's unreasonable for AMD to name the cards something else since they are significantly better than the 400 series and will likely cost about the same. This avoids confusion like that surrounding the 1060s. Additionally, it removes certain PCIe power overdraw stigma that surrounded the 400 series at launch. I see no real issue with it.

>>59909224
>>59909177
>still no source but only muh feeling

500 are rebranded 400 with better vrm on the PCB. Same chips.

>>59909308
>Polaris 20 vs Polaris 10

There, it's officially a different chip, no matter how small the difference.
You satisfied?

>>59908158
>disappointment
Uh, who was expecting anything out of a rebrand series? If you're disappointed by this that's entirely on you.

>>59909308
It's just a metal layer respin, hence the higher clocks, if your question is, "is it the same ASIC as the one released in July 2016?" No, it is not.

>>59909331
Like the 290 and the 390 or the 290x and 390x...right...
>>59909367
Take the chips with the best ASIC for oc version like Nitro's

>>59909308
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=amd+c940

>same chips
I never said they were different chips, I said the silicon is higher quality. Do you know what ASIC quality is? If not, you're going to want to do a few hours of research before you call bullshit on what other people are saying here because everything I said in my post should be common knowledge to someone posting in a thread about video cards on /g/. Just saying.

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>>59909331
>Polaris 20 vs Polaris 10
>not the same name so it's >>59909361
not the same gpu

AMD goys ladies

>>59909467
Prove it's the same chip.
It's PCI ID is different, it's codename is different.
01 = 1, it's a binary yes or no, even 1mm2 spent extra on power management makes it a different chip.

>>59909432
again, the ASIC quality has improved enough that it warrants a new name. When you can achieve ~20% higher clocks on both core and memory with +100mv on the core, it'd be retarded to say it's the same card as one that barely overclocked, was drawing too much over PCIe, and overheating.

>>59909467
You know what's the same chip? The 1060 with higher clocked memory.

>>59908405
Their upgrading their 400 series cause they know that their will be no Vega cards in the $200-$300 price range. Vega is gonna cost high end card money. So they needed a refresh to keep their mid range cards from looking old.

>nvidiots seriously think AMD can't compete with Nvidia when it can clearly compete with Intel that has 14 times higher revenue than Nvidia

What delusions.

>>59909508
>20%
What is math?

That 1,360mhz boost is exactly the same as most of the 3rd party rx480s

Should I get a RX 480 now?
If yes, should I get one from PowerColor or Sapphire?

>>59909021
Stop shitting in public.

>>59909581
They can't compete with 1070 and above for a year already dumb amdrone

>>59909582
>stock vs aftermarket

Durr, you slightly drunk?
The reference 480 throttles down to 1210MHz in gaming, the 580 stock is like 1360Mhz.

We already have aftermarket 580's at 1440MHz at launch day, find me an aftermarket 480 at 1400, heck, find me one at 1350MHz that didn't come out 5 months later than the 480.

It's clearly a improved chip over the 480 one, just like Kabylake is an improved chip over the Skylake one

>>59909581
Well, ryzen can almost match Intel now.
But they can't beat the 1070,1080,1080ti,titanx, and titanxp.

The steam survey shows Nvidia in the top 15 most used GPUs
the 1070/80 are extremely popular

I wouldn't say they are competing but struggling to stay alive in theGPU segment

>>59908158
Jesus nvidia, hire better shills.

This guy is a fucking embarassment

>>59909609
>The reference 480 throttles down to 1210MHz
Proof?

>have aftermarket 580's at 1440MHz at launch day,
Again, proof

>>59909582
I'm comparing the reference board to the new reference board. It doesn't make sense to compare redesigned boards to reference. The reference 480 at launch ran 1266 pretty consistently and didn't really OC at all. The leaked card is showing a 1500 core and 8500 memory. (1500-1266)/1266*100=18.5

>What is math?
Anon, I can't explain everything to you, please use your brain

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>>59909611
>Well, ryzen can almost match Intel now.
Are we now pretending the $500 Ryzen can't match Intel's $1000 and $1700 top of the line chips?

>1070 and further
How about you say that once Vega gets released at Computex? The 480/580 is clearly competitive with the 1060, and that's its market.

>>59909676
>once Vega gets released at Computex
>competing with year old gpu
>probably paper launch and will be unavailable for 2-3 months like 480
amdrones are hilarious

>>59909634
>throttling
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-r9-rx-480-8gb-review,6.html

>ạftermarket 1440
>>59907745

>>59909634
we have a reference 580 at 1500 and you want proof that we're gonna get aftermarket cards at 1440? do i have to explain to you why thats a fucking stupid request?

>>59909733
The TitanXP and 1080ti are year old GPUs?

Hey, what's gonna be the situation when Volta releases in Q2 2018?

>>59909761
JustWait(TM) for Volta
JustWait(TM) for Cannonlake


Coming to stores in 14 months near you.

>>59909745
1217Mhz is not 1210
1438Mhz is not 1440

>>59909859
Wow, this is the first time I've actually seen someone nitpick about 2Mhz

That's literally what the 8080 ran at, holy fuck AHAHAHAHAH

>>59909859
>i kept saying retarded shit, but NOW is my chance to finally be right!
>you were off by a total of 9mhz, anon, I AM VICTORIOUS
>oh fuck, I look autistic now
>ok, be cool
>spaghetti.jpg

>>59909813
Canonlake is unlikely to even hit desktops at this rate unfortunately.
Seems like no actual new desktop arch until Ice lake in 2019 for Intel, it's only coffelake in Q1 until that.

>>59909963
>Cannonlake
>Ice Lake
>Coffe Lake
>Sky Lake
>Kaby Lake

These are the dumbest names for a CPU.

>>59909963
It's confirmed not coming to desktop months ago. We're getting 6 core coffee Lake (skylake rev 3) instead. At least it will probably be on the same socket.

>>59910020
Marketing niggers name these things, AMD has its own stupid with "threadripper"

>>59909592
I think it was either the msi gaming or xfx that was the best 480. Out of the two you posted I would avoid powercolor

>>59910050
Infinity Fabric is a pretty nice name tho.

>>59910366
It's nice, but 1 good name out of 10 isn't really commendable.

>>59908158
>literally a massive fucking failure
They should at least have priced this shitty Rebrandeon lower than the RX 480, you have to be literally retarded to buy a $240 marginally improved polaris card that will become obsolete 10 months from now when Volta comes out. AMD really deserve their lower market share.

>>59910457
>JustWaitTM
>only another y-ear

>>59910457
Dude, are you seriously telling people to wait another year for a midrange card to come out? I'd understand if we were talking about $700 GPUs here, but $200 shit?

>>59908158

>the Pajeets just BTFO Intel, so I better go back to shilling noVidia

>>59909634
>the substantiate your claim meme when they are basing off of speculation
Comeback when the 500 series chips are actually released instead of going off of "muh feeling"

AMD made a HUGE mistake letting the 1070/80 dominate the GPU marketplace for a year.

Nvidia sold more $700 1080s than AMD did $200 rx480s

Source, steam survey

>>59908277
That superposition result is actually better than a 480 at 1400/8600 which gets 2614.

>>59908364
>Why are you stuttering, is this the 7700k talking?

>>59911777
AMD will lose no mater what since nvidia preys on stupidity and mindshare

>>59909609
the 2 fastest stock rx 480 are the
Nitro+ 1342mhz
XFX GTR OC 1344mhz
>Reference 580(US):1340mhz
>>59909582
can't into research

>>59912106
>steam survey shows GTX 970 share still rising through last month
My fucking sides. What a bunch of cucks.

>>59910020
>only change the last name with a new architecture
>suddenly shit goes so bad you can't even design a new architecture
>run out of names to put with -lake
>literally go bankrupt

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>>59908158
coz he told me not to watch porn

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>>59908158
They should have called it the RX 485/475, just saying

>>59912251
HOW THE FUCK IS 750 TI STILL GOING UP
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

PC gaymurrz are complete mouthbreathing retards.

it's only 250, it's not meant to be a great card

I want to see the vega benchmarks

>>59912093
HOLY FUCK UNDERRATED POST

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>>59910043
>At least it will probably be on the same socket.

Wait until Vega.

>>59908158
Only good thing about these rebadges is that the 4xx series will definitely see price drops out the ass.

>>59908405
it's actually good time, 480 has mediocre reputation compared to 1060
now if 480 got retested at 1400mhz on mass, scale would move since it's obviously better
also 580 draws less power because new LPP process

I want to know what people will say when nvidia refreshes their 1060 same way this year(oh they will).

>>59908158
I wish my Red Devil reached 1500Mhz. 1420Mhz at max.

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>>59910043
>At least it will probably be on the same socket.

>>59908158
While AMDfandrones enjoy their rebrand, I will enjoy my GTX1070 that I bought for 319dollars ;-)

>>59910043
>it will probably be on the same socket
POOR INTEL SHILL, I FEEL PITY FOR YOU

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AYYMD REBRANDEON HOUSEFIRES

>>59908445
Ask Intel, they've been doing it since Sandy Bridge

>>59908158
WHERE THE FUCK IS A 290/390 REPLACEMENT?

MY CARD IS FUCKING 4 YEARS OLD

>>59918633
GTX 1070/1080 :----DDD
vega soon, nigga

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>>59918633
>MY CARD IS FUCKING 4 YEARS OLD
>390
>handles Witcher 3
>Handles Xcom 2
>Handles Nier Automata
>literally everything that is worth wasting time on these years
I'm pretty sure Vega will be out way before Cyberpunk 2077 is out you you arent missing anything of value.

>>59919043
>GTX 1070/1080 :----DDD
>redundant for 1080p
>can't handle the 4K

Literally useless.
There's just no point in buying it.